Updated St Just in Penwith family trees include surnames Angwin, Bolitho, Curnow, Ellis, Lanyon, Roberts, Thomas, Trembath, Trezise and White. Full index starts at: http://users.tpg.com.au/bbolitho/stjust5/names.htm Bob Bolitho OPC St Just in Penwith
Thanks Bill, but my reply was on ages on documents generally not this specific example - that is why I changed the subject line. Bev quite rightly asked someone to check the original because assuming that the transcription is correct and not checking the original can also lead to missed identification. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Bill Curnow <[email protected]> To: Joy Langdon <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 11:50 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Age information on documents Lois & Joy, Just a reminder: The 1820 baptism at Marazion is NOT of a James EDMONDS. It is of Jane EDMONDS, daughter of Tobias and Elizabeth. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Age information on documents I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always. I also have examples of ages on death registers being wrong because the family didn't know - in one case the lady concerned had married a much younger man and she obviously told him she was 10 years younger than she was because that is the age that appears on the marriage certificate, all subsequent censuses and her death certificate! Fortunately, Scottish marriage certificates gave the bride and groom's mother's names as well as the father's so when I eventually obtained the certificate after years of discounting the marriage because of the age differences pre and post 1861 census, it confirmed that it was the same lady. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Lois Mackin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 2:18 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary Bev, If the James Edmonds son of Tobias you're referring to is the one who married Eliza Spargo in 1848 and emigrated to Pennsylvania, I don't think the 1820 Marazion baptism could be his. The tombstone of the James who married Eliza is in Odd Fellows Cemetery, Tamaqua (Schuylkill County), Pennsylvania. It gives James' death date as 16 May 1860 and his age as "42 years," suggesting a birth date of 1818. This is consistent with the age 30 that appears on James' and Eliza's marriage certificate. Ages for James in U.S. census records are not completely consistent with the 1818 birth date, however. In the 1850 U.S. census, James' age is given as 30 (suggesting a birth date of about 1820). He also appears on the 1860 census mortality schedule for Schuylkill County; his age is given there as 44 (suggesting a birth date of 1816). I believe these census ages are less likely to be correct than the tombstone age, since we don't know who provided the census information, while family members probably provided the tombstone age, and James himself presumably provided the marriage certificate age. Best regards, Lois Mackin Plymouth, Minnesota ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
<I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always.> Sometimes the arrival of a new child prompted the baptism of the rest of the family, as a "job lot", and they were all "done" at the same time. Happy New Year to everyone, Tom Thompson, St Agnes.
I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always. I also have examples of ages on death registers being wrong because the family didn't know - in one case the lady concerned had married a much younger man and she obviously told him she was 10 years younger than she was because that is the age that appears on the marriage certificate, all subsequent censuses and her death certificate! Fortunately, Scottish marriage certificates gave the bride and groom's mother's names as well as the father's so when I eventually obtained the certificate after years of discounting the marriage because of the age differences pre and post 1861 census, it confirmed that it was the same lady. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Lois Mackin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 2:18 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary Bev, If the James Edmonds son of Tobias you're referring to is the one who married Eliza Spargo in 1848 and emigrated to Pennsylvania, I don't think the 1820 Marazion baptism could be his. The tombstone of the James who married Eliza is in Odd Fellows Cemetery, Tamaqua (Schuylkill County), Pennsylvania. It gives James' death date as 16 May 1860 and his age as "42 years," suggesting a birth date of 1818. This is consistent with the age 30 that appears on James' and Eliza's marriage certificate. Ages for James in U.S. census records are not completely consistent with the 1818 birth date, however. In the 1850 U.S. census, James' age is given as 30 (suggesting a birth date of about 1820). He also appears on the 1860 census mortality schedule for Schuylkill County; his age is given there as 44 (suggesting a birth date of 1816). I believe these census ages are less likely to be correct than the tombstone age, since we don't know who provided the census information, while family members probably provided the tombstone age, and James himself presumably provided the marriage certificate age. Best regards, Lois Mackin Plymouth, Minnesota
Buried in St Just in Penwith Wesleyan cemetery - Samuel LAMBSHEAD aged 52 died 13 Jan 1914 Turnpike Road James BENNETTS aged 48 died 2 Feb 1914 Bosorne Fields Jane DANIEL aged 68 died 30 Jan 1914 Victoria House Jane BROKENSHA aged 73 died 3 Mar 1914 Carrallack Terrace Frederick Henry STEPHENS aged 53 died 22 Mar 1914 Truthwall Emily J RICHARDS aged 84 died 4 Jul 1914 Penwith House Stephen TROON aged 64 died 15 Jul 1914 Nancherrow William WOOLCOCK aged 46 died 17 Oct 1914 Victoria Row Martha GRENFELL aged 87 died 19 Oct 1914 Carrallack Terrace William James HATTAM aged 4 died 26 Nov 1914 Queen Street Thomas HALL aged 73 died 11 Dec 1914 Cape Cornwall Street James Baker WILLIAMS aged 83 died 16 Dec 1914 4 Bosorne Terrace Details from The Cornishman newspaper. This is not a comprehensive list. Bob Bolitho OPC St Just in Penwith
Lois & Joy, Just a reminder: The 1820 baptism at Marazion is NOT of a James EDMONDS. It is of Jane EDMONDS, daughter of Tobias and Elizabeth. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Age information on documents I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always. I also have examples of ages on death registers being wrong because the family didn't know - in one case the lady concerned had married a much younger man and she obviously told him she was 10 years younger than she was because that is the age that appears on the marriage certificate, all subsequent censuses and her death certificate! Fortunately, Scottish marriage certificates gave the bride and groom's mother's names as well as the father's so when I eventually obtained the certificate after years of discounting the marriage because of the age differences pre and post 1861 census, it confirmed that it was the same lady. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Lois Mackin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 2:18 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary Bev, If the James Edmonds son of Tobias you're referring to is the one who married Eliza Spargo in 1848 and emigrated to Pennsylvania, I don't think the 1820 Marazion baptism could be his. The tombstone of the James who married Eliza is in Odd Fellows Cemetery, Tamaqua (Schuylkill County), Pennsylvania. It gives James' death date as 16 May 1860 and his age as "42 years," suggesting a birth date of 1818. This is consistent with the age 30 that appears on James' and Eliza's marriage certificate. Ages for James in U.S. census records are not completely consistent with the 1818 birth date, however. In the 1850 U.S. census, James' age is given as 30 (suggesting a birth date of about 1820). He also appears on the 1860 census mortality schedule for Schuylkill County; his age is given there as 44 (suggesting a birth date of 1816). I believe these census ages are less likely to be correct than the tombstone age, since we don't know who provided the census information, while family members probably provided the tombstone age, and James himself presumably provided the marriage certificate age. Best regards, Lois Mackin Plymouth, Minnesota ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bev, If the James Edmonds son of Tobias you're referring to is the one who married Eliza Spargo in 1848 and emigrated to Pennsylvania, I don't think the 1820 Marazion baptism could be his. The tombstone of the James who married Eliza is in Odd Fellows Cemetery, Tamaqua (Schuylkill County), Pennsylvania. It gives James' death date as 16 May 1860 and his age as "42 years," suggesting a birth date of 1818. This is consistent with the age 30 that appears on James' and Eliza's marriage certificate. Ages for James in U.S. census records are not completely consistent with the 1818 birth date, however. In the 1850 U.S. census, James' age is given as 30 (suggesting a birth date of about 1820). He also appears on the 1860 census mortality schedule for Schuylkill County; his age is given there as 44 (suggesting a birth date of 1816). I believe these census ages are less likely to be correct than the tombstone age, since we don't know who provided the census information, while family members probably provided the tombstone age, and James himself presumably provided the marriage certificate age. Best regards, Lois Mackin Plymouth, Minnesota On Jan 1, 2013, at 2:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 07:48:15 +1000 > From: "B. Edmonds" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St > Hilary > > Thank you Bill, maybe the Vicar heard the name incorrect. I will make a > note. Maybe James was never baptised. > > Bev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Bill Curnow" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 7:41 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary > >> Bev, >> >> The baptism was at Marazion, and it definitely says "Jane Dr of Tobias >> [and] >> Elizth EDMONDS." Here's the URL of the image: >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11877-86038-11?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-J57:n83661941 >> >> Happy New Year! >> Bill Curnow >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "B. Edmonds" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:15 PM >> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary >> >>> Morning all, >>> >>> Day Month 16-Jan 1820 >>> Marazion, St. Hilary >>> Jane EDMONDS dau Tobias & Elizth >>> Residence Marazion, farmer >>> >>> Would someone please be able to check this entry for me please. I have a >>> James EDMONDS c 1818 s/o Tobias whose Baptism I cannot find in St Hilary. >>> It >>> has just occurred to me that Jane above could actually be a James. >>> >>> Regards >>> Bev
Buried in St Just in Penwith Wesleyan cemetery - Thomas MARTIN aged 1 died 8 May 1913 Carn Bosavern Thomas Stephens TREGEAR aged 76 died 14 May 1913 Victoria Row Richard OATES aged 2 died 30 Jun 1913 Bosorne Road Ethel JENKIN aged 7 died 10 Aug 1913 Bosorne Road Eliza SEMMENS aged 80 died 1 Sep 1913 Botallack Nanny ANGWIN aged 87 died 13 Oct 1913 Rock Cottage, Heamoor Elizabeth Ann BENNETTS aged 68 died 28 Jun 1913 Pleasant Row Details from The Cornishman newspaper. This is not a comprehensive list. Bob Bolitho OPC St Just in Penwith
Thank you Bill, maybe the Vicar heard the name incorrect. I will make a note. Maybe James was never baptised. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Curnow" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 7:41 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary > Bev, > > The baptism was at Marazion, and it definitely says "Jane Dr of Tobias > [and] > Elizth EDMONDS." Here's the URL of the image: > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11877-86038-11?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-J57:n83661941 > > Happy New Year! > > > Bill Curnow > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Edmonds" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:15 PM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary > > >> >> Morning all, >> >> Day Month 16-Jan 1820 >> Marazion, St. Hilary >> Jane EDMONDS dau Tobias & Elizth >> Residence Marazion, farmer >> >> Would someone please be able to check this entry for me please. I have a >> James EDMONDS c 1818 s/o Tobias whose Baptism I cannot find in St Hilary. >> It >> has just occurred to me that Jane above could actually be a James. >> >> Regards >> Bev >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5498 - Release Date: 12/30/12 >
Morning all, Day Month 16-Jan 1820 Marazion, St. Hilary Jane EDMONDS dau Tobias & Elizth Residence Marazion, farmer Would someone please be able to check this entry for me please. I have a James EDMONDS c 1818 s/o Tobias whose Baptism I cannot find in St Hilary. It has just occurred to me that Jane above could actually be a James. Regards Bev
Mary Ellen Veale was the widow of Charles Veale. She was the daughter of George Eddy and Eleanor Noy baptised 3 Nov 1850 St Just in Penwith. Bob Bolitho On 1/01/2013 12:16 AM, thomas veale wrote: > bob was Mary Ellen veale by marriage or married name > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Bolitho" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] St Just in Penwith - Wesleyan cemetery burials > 1901 > VEALE Mary Ellen 49 Bosorne 3 Jun 1901
> All the best wishes for the New Year - may we all break down a few brick walls and have fun along the way. > Julia ....................... . > WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER > 16 JANUARY 1857 > . > LOCAL INTELLIGENCE > . > THE F.B.H. BALL > . > Those who were present at the ball given by Miss BRUNE, at the Council Hall, Truro, four years since, had their recollections of that brilliant reunion most pleasantly revived on Thursday last, at a similar entertainment in the same building, to which the Master and Members of the F.B. Hunt had done the county the compliment of inviting its leading inhabitants. The invitations issued were as general as the accommodation afforded by the building would permit; the rooms, though crowded, were not inconveniently so, to the derangement of the dancers; while the numbers present - upwards of two hundred and thirty - contributed not a little to the liveliness and sustained spirit of the evening's amusement. > . > A large company had assembled by ten o'clock, who were received on their entrance by Mr. William WILLIAMS, Mr. Ennis VIVIAN, and other members of the F.B.H. and shortly after dancing commenced. > The ball was opened with the "Quadrille of Brides," so styled in compliment to the distinguished ladies who, on this occasion, made their first appearance since their marriage in their new character at a county assembly. > . > Lady Elizabeth St. AUBYN, with Mr. Frederick WILLIAMS as his father's representative, took the head of the quadrille, supported by Lady MOLESWORTH, with Mr. P. P. SMITH for her partner. At the opposite end Mr. ROBERTS danced with Mrs. MARRIOTT, whilst that well-known sportsman, Mr. Edward Hearle RODD led forth the Hon. Mrs. BRUNE, as the substitute for the bride Mrs. Brydges WILLYAMS, whose absence was a cause of muce [much] disappointment. > . > The flanks of the quadrille were supported by two couple on each side, four gentlemen of the hunt leading forth such fair partners as would give promise of a still larger bridal quadrille at the next gathering. The red coats of the gentlemen, and the beautiful bridal dresses of the ladies, made this dance most effective, and one of more than usual interest to the spectators. > . > A rapid succession of quadrilles, interchanged with the waltz, polka, and mazurka, allowed no rest - had they desired it - to the votaries of Terpsichore, and never was a ball witnessed in which the dancers perhaps formed so large a proportion to the rest of the company. These were again so well balanced, that neither belles nor beaux complained of any lack of partners; the latter too were sufficiently numerous to excuse those of riper years, if not riper discretion, from taking part in the fantastic activity of the evening, as they sometimes do - out of mere good-nature as they pretend - when young ladies, who would be columbines, are forced to remain stationary as "wall-flowers." The gallant officers from Pendennis contributed not a little to this state, which thus insured a full supply of the right men for the right places. > . > The mazurka was most effectively introduced and while many excelled as to the manner in which they acquitted themselves in this elegant dance, it is no disparagement to them to notice how Lord VALLETORT and Miss Charlotte BULLER imparted to it that additional grace, which riveted the eyes of all beholders, and is said to have inspired many imitative attempts at home since that evening's exhibition. > . > About twelve o'clock the doors of the supper-room were thrown open, which was arranged in a style and profusion which showed no expense had been spared, while a closer acquaintance revealed an essential excellence, which equally proved that the experienced taste of the members of the F.B. H. had been extensively exerted to do honour to their guests. A magnificent bridal cake, rising aloft over all like a miniature Mont Blanc in all its snowy purity, was the crowning ornament of this banquet. > . > The supper caused but little interruption to the dancing, while it imparted to it additional spirit as the night rolled on, and it was three o'clock before any real signs of departure were observable. > . > A freer space, however, only seemed to call forth more active exertions, and "Sir Roger de Coverley" and a country dance were not accepted as a finale, but the waltz and polka were renewed, and the company would probably have moved on to some still more "wavering morrice," had not the band read their usual riot act of dispersion, and bid them at half-past five put on their cloaks, to the tune of "God Save the Queen," which enabled some of the more distant guests to reach home in time for the early family breakfast. > . > Mr. EMIDY's band, of Truro, was engaged for the occasion, which has greatly improved of late in its strength and execution. A little more encouragement and practice at such entertainments, will doubtless lead to still greater excellence, and the correction of some minor defects. The brass department was felt to be rather too loud, and to interfere with the social conversation of the elderly folk, and the softer talk of the younger, so that sometimes it is believed even a proposal would scarcely have been heard. The Emidy family can easily remedy these inconveniences. > . > It is but justice to add that every one present seemed thoroughly to enjoy the liveliness of the scene, and never was a ball kept up with greater spirit. All were equally sensible of the great pains which had been taken by Mr. William WILLIAMS and the other members of the hunt to make the entertainment as effective as possible, and few were satisfied in taking their departure without personally expressing to Mrs. William Williams, their sense of the pleasure they had received, and congratulating her and the ladies who had more specially rendered their assistance, on the complete success which had attended their exertions. Such an entertainment must be felt as a compliment not only to those who were actually present, but to the society of the county at large, and as a handsome tribute on the part of the Members of the F.B. Hunt towards promoting its festivities. > . > We should add that the Council Hall and suite of ten rooms were tastefully decorated, under the superintendence of Mr. John Nankivell JULIAN, builder, Truro, with evergreens and furze, in designs and festoons, interspersed with roses made by the ladies connected with the hunt. The whole was brilliantly illuminated by about 600 gas jets and 500 wax candles. The supper was laid in the Town Hall on a table of sixty feet in length, and was provided by Mr. CUTHBERTSON of Exeter. > . > The entrance to the ball-room was through the corridor which was also used as a second dancing-room, the end dressed in furze in imitation of a brake, from the midst of which a stuffed Reynard very naturally looked out. In the principal room we also noticed the brush and head of several foxes. At the entrance of the corridor, CONROY, the huntsman, and the "whip" of the hunt stood on either side, in full costume. > . > The suite of rooms was readily placed at the disposal of the F.B.H. by the Mayor of Truro, Mr. Edward MICHELL, who, we have reason to believe, is ready to allow them to be used for any public object. > . > BODMIN - The third annual musical entertainment of the Bodmin Choral Society took place in the Union Hill on the evening of Monday last; the music was chiefly from the compositions of "Fawcett" and "Kent". The full band consisted of upwards of thirty performers, including the principal musicians of the Cornwall Royal Rangers. Under the energetic and judicious management of Captain VERCOE, the whole performance gave considerable satisfaction to a crowded room of the gentry and respectable inhabitants of the town and neighbourhood. > . > MISS HAY'S CONCERT - The second concert of Miss Louisa Foote HAY and her sisters at St. Austell was given in the Town Hall on Tuesday evening last. It was an excellent concert, though slightly attended. > FLUSHING ANNUAL BALL - The tradesmen of this place, with a number of their friends from Falmouth and Penryn and their vicinities, met on Thursday the 8th instant, in a spacious hall formerly used and still known as the Assembly-room, which was decorated with various devices and evergreens, and embellished with numerous naval ensigns, presenting on the whole a lively appearance. Dancing commenced at nine o'clock, and was carried on with great spirit till an early hour, with the introduction also of songs and recitations. The party dispersed highly gratified and anticipating many such entertainments. > . > MARRIAGE LICENCES - The Chancellor of this Diocese has fixed the cost of licences for the future at GBP 2.7s.5d. > . > TESTIMONIAL TO A CLERGYMAN - the parishioners of Constantine assembled at the church-town, on Monday last, to present to the Rev. James MAYNE, a handsome silver tea-service, which had been liberally subscribed for by them as a testimonial of their respect and affection for him as the curate of the parish, which office he has served for the last eight years. We understand that Mr. Mayne is about shortly to remove to the curacy of Harberton, near Totnes, to fill the vacancy occasioned by the appointment of the Mr. RICKARD, who succeeds the late Rev. Edward ROGERS, as the vicar of Constantine. > . > LAUNCH - On Saturday last, there was launched from the building yard of Mr. TREDWEN, Padstow, a handsome schooner, named the "Star of St. Agnes," purchased by Mr. M. T. HITCHENS, of St. Agnes. > . > TRAVELING EXTRAORDINARY - On the arrival recently of the Fairy omnibus, at the Chapel Hill-gate, Truro, from Hayle, it was observed that there was a fowl roosting on the fore axle. The bird, a fine Cochin China hen, was immediately captured, and was recognized by the guard to belong to the inn yard at Hayle, to which place it was conveyed by return of post. > . > DEATH OF THE JUDGE OF THE CORNWALL COUNTY COURTS - We regret to announce in our obituary of this week, the death of George Granville KEKEWICH, Esq., Judge of the County Courts of Cornwall, which melancholy event took place at his residence at Exeter, on the 7th last, after a short illness, he having presided over the courts of last month. > . > The learned gentleman, who had attained the age of fifty-five, was educated at Winchester and Exeter College, Oxford, and was for many years a member of the Western Circuit, and one of the revising barristers for Somersetshire and Dorsetshire. > . > On the creation of the County Courts in 1846, he was appointed Judge of the Cornwall Circuit, and he so assiduously and conscientiously discharged the duties of his office as to gain the respect and esteem not only of the successful, but of the unsuccessful suitors also, in the various courts over which he presided. He was untiring at getting at the truth, so as to arrive at a just decision; and although he never allowed his kind-heartedness to over-rule his duty, we have heard of more than one instance of his purse being open to the poorer suitors. > . > We understand that the father of the lamented gentleman, who is still living, is uncle to Samuel Trehawke KEKEWICH, Esq., of Penmore, near Exeter, and was formerly a judge at the Cape of Good Hope. > . > At the court held at Penzance, on Tuesday last, by the highly respected Recorder of that borough, Charles Dacres BEVAN, Esq., the professional gentleman, out of respect to the memory of the departed judge, adjourned all the cases in which they held briefs to the next court, and the like course was observed at the court at Helston on Monday last. > . > At the court of Penzance, on Tuesday last, Mr. R. MILLETT, as the senior solicitor present, expressed in a neat speech, the respect in which he and his brother professionals held Mr. Kekewich; and at the Falmouth County Court, on Saturday, a similar feeling of deep regret at the unexpected demise of Mr. Kekewich, was expressed by the solicitors present. > . > THE LATE CAPTAIN HAMBLY - The funeral of Captain A.J.B. HAMBLY, of the Chatham division of the Royal Marines, took place on Thursday the 8th instant, and was conducted with all the military honours usually observed on the occasion of the burial of an officer of rank. The deceased officer, who had been twenty years in the service of the Royal Marines, died at his quarters in the barracks, from which his body was subsequently removed to Melville Hospital, where the procession was formed. > . > In addition to the officers of the Royal Marines a large number of naval officers belonging to the ships of war lying at Chatham, with the officers of the provisional battalion and the Royal and East India Company’s Engineers attended. Capt. Hambly entered the corps of Royal Marines in 837, his commission as second lieutenant bearing the date of August 1st of that year. He obtained his company in 1851. > . > In 1842 the deceased officer served in the Chinese expedition, where he was severely wounded. He also served on board the "Monarch" in the Baltic during 1854, and afterwards in the Pacific station until invalided home in May last. Times, February 9th. (The deceased was the eldest son of the late Capt. Hambly, R.N., who formerly resided for several years at Penryn.) > DAMAGE TO SHIPPING AND LOSS OF LIFE - We regret to state that much damage to shipping, with loss of lives, occurred on the coasts of this county during the violent gale on Saturday night and Sunday morning last. We have received the following from our correspondents: > Scilly - On the 10th instant, at eight o'clock, p.m., the wind commenced blowing a gale from the W. to W.N.W., which soon assumed the force of a storm, blowing until five o'clock, a.m., on the 11th instant, with much more force than it has blown here before for the winter. The ships in port rode out the gale well. .. > Falmouth - the ship "Columbus", which was driven ashore off St. Mawes Castle some weeks since, laden with barley, was floated off on Saturday last, and taken in tow by two pilot boats, but could not be got to Mylor pool as was intended. [There was no steamer in harbour to take her in tow; she was beached higher up the roads, and will be ultimately got off.] > Newquay - On Sunday last this place was visited with a heavy gale from the N.N.W., and at daylight a large barque was discovered about three miles off shore heading to the westard. [She disappeared from sight, but was seen again about half a mile of the Head. They came to anchor, but was then seen to be drifting fast towards the shore. Two boats were manned, and also the Coast Guard boat, and went off to their assistance. > . > When they reached the ship all the crew except the captain and one man were in their boats, ready to leave. Great praise is due to Captain Wm. DARKE, of Newquay, and Mr. LIDSTONE, R.N., and the boats, crews, who immediately got on board and set all the canvas they could, or she would have been ashore in a few minutes. She proved to be the "Transit," Captain NICHOLLS, from Cardiff for New Orleans, with 700 tons of iron on board. She had lost her main yard in the gale; the captain state she parted her chain cables about 2 a.m. > Padstow - [a ship was seen trying to gain the harbour, when her boat was lowered, and the crew pulled toward shore, but the boat was lost, and all the crew drowned. A second ship sent a boy about 13 years of age on an errand to Padstow; he returned to the ship and was within hailing distance but was not noticed in the storm. The boat was found in Hell cove, but his body has not been found.] > . > RUAN HIGHLANES PETTY SESSIONS - At the petty sessions held at Ruan Highlanes in the parish of Ruanlanyhorne on Monday last, Richard BEARD and George BEARD were fined two pounds and costs for assaulting the constable of Tregony in the performance of his duty. Also Henry TUCKER, labourer, of Grampound, pleaded guilty of stealing fowls the property of Mr. Henry CROGGAN, of the same place; he was committed to the county gaol for two months, hard labour. > . > Truro POLICE - On Thursday last, before the Mayor and Mr. PADDON and Mr. CHAPPEL, magistrates, John HARRIS, alias "Probus Jack" was fined 5s. and costs for being drunk, and violently assaulting Jane HICKS, servant at the New Inn, Kenwyn-street, on the previous night. A similar fine was inflicted on Nicholas ANDREW, of Tregony, for being drunk and disorderly in the streets. > . > ACCIDENT - On the evening of Wednesday the 27th instant, a man named BASHER, in the employ of Mr. TROUNSON, hay merchant, of Cury, was returning from Penzance with a waggon and two horses, and when near Breage vicarage, he fell from the waggon and broke his thigh. He was discovered lying in the road, and conveyed to the Union House, Helston. Basher, who was intoxicated, had been previously cautioned by parties on the road as to his reckless driving. > . > CORONER'S INQUEST - The following inquests have been held befoe Mr. GOOD, county coroner: > . > On Wednesday, the 7th instant, at Gunnis Lake, in the parish of Calstock, on the body of Francis WARNE, four months old, found dead in bed about four o'clock on the previous morning. > . > It appeared from the evidence that the child had been placed in bed with its parents at eleven o'clock on Monday night; it was then quite well, and so far as was known remained so until four o'clock in the morning, when the mother awoke and found the infant dead by her side. > . > There were some slight appearances observable not altogether satisfactory, but after a careful examination of the body by Mr. WOOD, surgeon, who gave it as decided opinion that the child had died from natural causes, the jury returned a verdict to that effect. The parents, who appeared to be very respectable people, lost a child under similar circumstances about a year and a half ago. > . > On Saturday, at Moorwinstow, on the body of George JOPE, aged 65. The deceased was a farm labourer in the employ of the Rev. R. S. HAWKER, and on Tuesday afternoon last, whilst employed in feeding a threshing machine, his hand and arm were so much crushed as to render it necessary to amputate the limb, which was performed on the following morning by Messrs. KING and DINHAM, surgeons of Stratton, but the poor fellow survived the operation only a few hours; he appeared never to have rallied from the time of receiving the injury, and died about five o'clock on Thursday evening. Verdict, "accidental death." > > Julia M. > West Briton Transcriptions, 1836-1856 at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad > St. Austell Area History and Genealogy at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell
Correction: Kate Saunders LEGGO should read Kate Saunders Leggo HOCKING. Death dates and other details as reported in The Cornishman newspaper. Bob Bolitho On 31/12/2012 12:06 PM, Bob Bolitho wrote: > Surname, Forename, Age, Residence, Death > NINNIS John Grenfell 62 Queen Street 11 Jan 1901 > BOYNS Nicholas 65 Alexander Road, Wood-green, London 20 Jan 1901 > WILLIAMS Edwin 32 Queen Street 15 Feb 1901 > LEGGO Kate Saunders 35 Queen Street 25 May 1901 > VEALE Mary Ellen 49 Bosorne 3 Jun 1901 > STEPHENS Thomas 67 Carrallack Terrace 6 Jul 1901 > EDDY James 69 Victoria Row 11 Oct 1901 > > This is not a comprehensive list. > > Bob Bolitho > OPC St Just in Penwith >
Bev, The baptism was at Marazion, and it definitely says "Jane Dr of Tobias [and] Elizth EDMONDS." Here's the URL of the image: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11877-86038-11?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-J57:n83661941 Happy New Year! Bill Curnow ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary > > Morning all, > > Day Month 16-Jan 1820 > Marazion, St. Hilary > Jane EDMONDS dau Tobias & Elizth > Residence Marazion, farmer > > Would someone please be able to check this entry for me please. I have a > James EDMONDS c 1818 s/o Tobias whose Baptism I cannot find in St Hilary. > It > has just occurred to me that Jane above could actually be a James. > > Regards > Bev > > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Surname, Forename, Age, Residence, Death NINNIS John Grenfell 62 Queen Street 11 Jan 1901 BOYNS Nicholas 65 Alexander Road, Wood-green, London 20 Jan 1901 WILLIAMS Edwin 32 Queen Street 15 Feb 1901 LEGGO Kate Saunders 35 Queen Street 25 May 1901 VEALE Mary Ellen 49 Bosorne 3 Jun 1901 STEPHENS Thomas 67 Carrallack Terrace 6 Jul 1901 EDDY James 69 Victoria Row 11 Oct 1901 This is not a comprehensive list. Bob Bolitho OPC St Just in Penwith
Hello All The following updates have been made to the OPC database during December (http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/):- Bodmin baptisms, Creed BTs marriages & burials, Crowan baptisms & burials, Cuby baptisms, Gwennap baptisms & burials, Isles of Scilly BC baptisms, Isles of Scilly baptisms, Isles of Scilly Wesleyan baptisms, Jacobstow BTs, Launceston BC baptisms, Lelant baptisms, Luxulyan baptisms, Martin by Looe baptisms, Mawgan in Pydar burials, Pillaton baptisms, marriages, burials, burials woollen, St Agnes burials, St Endellion baptisms, St Issey marriages, St Ives marriages, St Minver baptisms & burials, Stoke Climsland baptisms, Tintagel burials, Truro St Mary banns & marriages OTHER: BMD Certificates, Emigration, Liskeard Voters 1862-64, Passenger Lists Cape Town 1897-99 Happy Ancestor Hunting in 2013! Regards Myra Cordrey
bob was Mary Ellen veale by marriage or married name ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bolitho" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] St Just in Penwith - Wesleyan cemetery burials 1901 > Correction: Kate Saunders LEGGO should read Kate Saunders Leggo HOCKING. > > Death dates and other details as reported in The Cornishman newspaper. > > Bob Bolitho > > On 31/12/2012 12:06 PM, Bob Bolitho wrote: >> Surname, Forename, Age, Residence, Death >> NINNIS John Grenfell 62 Queen Street 11 Jan 1901 >> BOYNS Nicholas 65 Alexander Road, Wood-green, London 20 Jan 1901 >> WILLIAMS Edwin 32 Queen Street 15 Feb 1901 >> LEGGO Kate Saunders 35 Queen Street 25 May 1901 >> VEALE Mary Ellen 49 Bosorne 3 Jun 1901 >> STEPHENS Thomas 67 Carrallack Terrace 6 Jul 1901 >> EDDY James 69 Victoria Row 11 Oct 1901 >> >> This is not a comprehensive list. >> >> Bob Bolitho >> OPC St Just in Penwith >> > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello All - This was a "special" column and article, not under "Local Intelligence", but it might be an actual case. Or - it might not. Hope everyone will enjoy it, never-the-less. And please, have a very, very Happy New Year! Julia M. West Briton Transcriptions, 1836-1856 at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad St. Austell Area History and Genealogy at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell ................................................................................................................................................................... COUSIN "JACKEY" AT THE PLAY [absolutely as written!] . Samuel HUGHES was charged before the magistrates at the Police Court on Thursday last, with attempting to pick the pockets of a man named JOHN RUES. Mr. Henry ELWORTHY appeared for defendant. . Prosecutor (who is a robut looking man) made the following statement to the Bench; "Gentlemen, I's comed here in this here part of the kintry - I main up thar to Saltash - to spend the Christmas yer know, and I belong to Pengelley, in the parish of St. Teath, near Camelford, about thirty or vorty moiles daown. Well, one allays like to zee what he kin when he's out, of coose I coomed down to zee the play at the Theatre Royal. When I got to a big door, says I to this mun (prisoner), says I, 'where do these door laid too - pit or gall'ry?' 'Well,' says he,'to oither, but the pit is the most comfortabel, I should advisey to go there; and if yer plaze I'll go along in way 'ee.' I said, 'I dun knaw aboot that, 'cause I's got sum budy way me.' . I then went and got som horanges, and then the mun (prisoner) changed from my lift side to to'ther, where I put my hand in my pocket. I then went over to the door, which was opened. Then there was a jineral roosh, upon which I rooshed too, but jist as oi was in the middle, somebody afore me, and somebody behoind me, and somebody was soide, and the mun (alluding to prisoner) on to'ther - jist when I velt a fumlin and a touching, and this ere chap's hand gets into this here lift hand side pocket, but the fellow made a mistake, for I ony had a leetle bit a money in that pocket, and GBP 5 or GBP 6 in to'ther wan. The lift, yer knaw, was jist a leetle for spending. The right (here prosecutor pulled out the money bag amidst roars of laughter) was the stock. Well, thinks I, I feels 'ee ole feller, and then I sings out 'here's a mun get he's hand in moi pocket.' I then holds perty toight til a young lady - my companion, gent'men - called Susannah SCREACH, saw his hand in that perdikeyment, when I lugs im out and calls for a perlice-konsterfull. A man close by says, 'oh, I'll rin for un,' says he, and so he rins. . This ere chap was werry quiet then, but when he finds there was a konsterful a comin, he begins pertily to kick and spudder. Well, when he does that, I holds tolerably luggish, and vine and toight, and says I, I says, 'hold hard ole feller, you ain't gone 'eet.' No. 2 konsterbull of the second diveshun then come up, tuks un into charge, and tells me to come to the Steetion; will, oi goes way im to prez the hoffince agin him, but somehow I got a leetle o' the Theatre in ma noodle, and I want cheated out, o't, for I went in at half play." . The inimitable manner in which cousin Jackey delivered this oration, created throughout roars of laughter. His depositon was then taken, during which his cross-examintion by Mr. Elworthy created great amusement; the witness, at each ebullition of the kind, looking around upon the audience as if to recognize their applause. . Miss Screach, cousin Jackey's 'young voman,' who was dressed out 'cruel vine,' said she "seed the personer's han in her young mun's pocket, 'cause he shaw'dn to her." Miss Screach retired amidst much merriment, similar to that called forth by the peculiar eloquence of her affianced. . Palice-constable No. 2 gave evidence of the apprehension of th eprisoner on behalf of whom Mr. Elworthy denied the charge, observing that a very large crowd had assembled, and in the crowd Rues was nudged, and immediately thinking Hughes (who was kind enough to show him the way to the pit) was a pickpocket laid hold of him. The Bench considering the defence more ingenious than probable, sent him to prisoner for three months, and cousin Jackey departed, seemingly highly pleased with his first exploit, and the termination of it in a "perlice" court, and perhaps thinking how he should tell the tale to his admiring companions, of his having outwitted the sharper. Plymouth Mail.
Thanks Nivard, I browsed the list and found someone had already asked. The UK port numbers can be found here if anyone else has the same query. I just need to fnd the international codes now. http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/ukportnos.html Joy ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2012, 13:42 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 50 Free FindMyPast credits offer Hi Joy I would recommend posting to the Mariners list where you will find knowledgeable listers on the subject Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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