Hi Listers Just a quick note to thank those who responded to my query about "Tregarren" and the Sanns family of that 1641 era. You have all given me a nudge in the right direction I think, and I do appreciate that very much, and will gradually process it all as time permits and see what is what. With your assistance I think "Tregarne" is correct, and have to admit I did see that in my previous searches, but must have been having a "senior moment" and the penny did not drop to go back and take a second look. Thankyou all once again Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Queensland, Australia [email protected] *************************

Thank you, Steven. I will make the corrections. Sometimes I stay at this too long in one session and get brain drain.LOL. Judy --- On Sun, 1/27/13, est <[email protected]> wrote: > From: est <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH-GEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 32 > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 10:28 AM > > > Hi Judy, > According to my DONNITHORNE database, William DONNITHORNE > married Joan SANDICKE > at Gulval in 1603. This would make Tryphosa  rather old to > be marrying > John PEARCE in 1727! > Regards,Stephen > > >________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom:  [email protected] > or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for > transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hello again, Bob, it's morning and my head is a little bit clearer and I saw that I didn't put what you needed.(?) To go onward: Benjamin PEARCE, 1744 and Frances EDDY 1748; Had ANN PEARCE EDDY who married Thomas ROW. Their other children were William Pearce,1777; Alice Pearce 1779; Tryphosa Pearce 1781; Frances Pearce 1783 JOHN PEARCE 1786; and Benjamin Pearce 1791. I suspect that Ann PEARCE EDDY and Thomas had Thomas ROWE1791; Anne ROWE 1793; William ROWE 1796; John ROWE 1798; and Jane ROWE 1800. I don't know who her brother, William PEARCE (1777) married but I found these names born to a William - Margaret PEARCE 1802; Frances PEARCE 1804; William PEARCE 1806;and John PEARCE 1808. Alice PEARCE 1779, had a base child named William PEARCE in 1810. I have nothing else on her. I have nothing on Tryphosa PEARCE 1781, except she was christened in Gulval Parish on 18 NOv 1781. I believe Frances PEARCE 1783 married John BRIDGEMAN on 8 FEB 1806. I'm not sure about this one. Your John PEARCE 1786, I already mentioned previously. The last child I found was Benjamin PEARCE 1791 and I have nothing on him except he was Christened on 29 May 1791. This information was extracted from the Wonderful Cornwall On-line Parish Records Office database. Let me know if you have anything different or verify that I was correct in my assumptions. Judy --- On Sun, 1/27/13, Judy Jarve <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Judy Jarve <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] mystery many deaths > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 1:01 AM > Hello Bob, > > I have just begun to work on my ancestor lineage for John > Rowe of Lelant 1798, who married Alice Edwards. After years > of a brick wall, I was helped by a gen-angel who helped me > back on the right road. > My John Rowe's father was Thomas Row, 1769, who married Ann > Pearce Eddy, 1774. Her father was Benjamin Pearce > 1744,  and her mother was Frances Eddy, 1748. Benjamin > and Frances had 7 children that I know of: Ann Pearce Eddy > (my ancestor) William Pearce, Alice Pearce, Tryphosa Pearce, > Frances Pearce, John Pearce, and Benjamin Pearce. > > Do you have any of that - and I hope I am correct in my > findings. I have dates if you want them. The children I had > mentioned were the children of your John Pearce. Maybe you > can enlighten me on who John married. I think he married a > Sarah on Feb 17, 1810 in Gulval Parish. > > The name Trezela is the name of their residence. I was in > Cornwall and knew that People had house names instead of > house numbers. Trezela has been written in different ways, > Trezeler, Trezelor, Trezealor, I think it depended on the > person recording the info because the last three entries > were spelled the same way. Maybe they couldn't spell the > name and wrote it like they pronounced it. > > Interesting, Huh? > > Let me know what you find and I will do likewise. I also > came across some more info which I am not positive of but > here goes: > Benjamin Pearce's father was John Pearce who married > Tryphosa Donnithorne in 1727 in Gulval Parish. Tryphosa's > father was William Donnithorne and mother, I think, was Joan > Sandick(?). Their children were tryphosa Donnithorne, > Honner, Jennifer, Williamm and maybe Ann. > > The only info I have on Thomas Row whose father was also > Thomas Rowe. I can't find anything else on them. > > If someone finds errors in this new info, I would be glad to > know of it. > Hope you can find this info useful. > Judy > > > > --- On Sat, 1/26/13, [email protected] > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] mystery many deaths > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013, 4:40 PM > > Hi Judy, > > > > These are some people in my data base and I am > wondering if > > we too > > connect. John Pearce 1786 is my third great Grand > Uncle. > > > >  I have another question=== Is it Trezela or > Trezelah and is > > the proper > > way to record it Trezela,(h) Gulval Cornwall.----Bob > > Marhenke > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:51:25 -0800 (PST) Judy Jarve > <[email protected]> > > writes: > > > List, > > > > > > Children of John Pearce and Sarah in Gulval > Parish: > > > I have found a > > > John Pearce born 1810 in Gulval died in 1813 at > > Newlyn. > > > John Pearce born 1819 in Gulval Residence > Trezela. > > > Benjamin Pearce born 1811 in Gulval died 1813 at > > Trezela. > > > Benjamin Pearce born 1814 in Gulval. at Trezela. > > > Catherine Pearce born 1812 in Gulval died 1813 at > > Trezela. > > > William Pearce born 1821 in Gulval died 1822 both > > places Trezela > > > (Trezeler) > > > William Pearce born 182 in gulval > > > > > > Isn't this unusual? > > > Judy Jarve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > Listmom:  [email protected] > > or [email protected] > > > > > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for > > transcription > > > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > >  > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. > > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 > > ------------------------------- > > Listmom:  [email protected] > > or [email protected] > > > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for > > transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom:  [email protected] > or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for > transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Judy The Gulval is the Parish of birth and the Trezela is the residence, the place of death. Seems like the measles epidemic at that time? Tony On 27/01/13 5:51 AM, Judy Jarve wrote: > List, > > Children of John Pearce and Sarah in Gulval Parish: > I have found a > John Pearce born 1810 in Gulval died in 1813 at Newlyn. > John Pearce born 1819 in Gulval Residence Trezela. > Benjamin Pearce born 1811 in Gulval died 1813 at Trezela. > Benjamin Pearce born 1814 in Gulval. at Trezela. > Catherine Pearce born 1812 in Gulval died 1813 at Trezela. > William Pearce born 1821 in Gulval died 1822 both places Trezela (Trezeler) > William Pearce born 182 in gulval > > Isn't this unusual? > Judy Jarve > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bob, I have just begun to work on my ancestor lineage for John Rowe of Lelant 1798, who married Alice Edwards. After years of a brick wall, I was helped by a gen-angel who helped me back on the right road. My John Rowe's father was Thomas Row, 1769, who married Ann Pearce Eddy, 1774. Her father was Benjamin Pearce 1744, and her mother was Frances Eddy, 1748. Benjamin and Frances had 7 children that I know of: Ann Pearce Eddy (my ancestor) William Pearce, Alice Pearce, Tryphosa Pearce, Frances Pearce, John Pearce, and Benjamin Pearce. Do you have any of that - and I hope I am correct in my findings. I have dates if you want them. The children I had mentioned were the children of your John Pearce. Maybe you can enlighten me on who John married. I think he married a Sarah on Feb 17, 1810 in Gulval Parish. The name Trezela is the name of their residence. I was in Cornwall and knew that People had house names instead of house numbers. Trezela has been written in different ways, Trezeler, Trezelor, Trezealor, I think it depended on the person recording the info because the last three entries were spelled the same way. Maybe they couldn't spell the name and wrote it like they pronounced it. Interesting, Huh? Let me know what you find and I will do likewise. I also came across some more info which I am not positive of but here goes: Benjamin Pearce's father was John Pearce who married Tryphosa Donnithorne in 1727 in Gulval Parish. Tryphosa's father was William Donnithorne and mother, I think, was Joan Sandick(?). Their children were tryphosa Donnithorne, Honner, Jennifer, Williamm and maybe Ann. The only info I have on Thomas Row whose father was also Thomas Rowe. I can't find anything else on them. If someone finds errors in this new info, I would be glad to know of it. Hope you can find this info useful. Judy --- On Sat, 1/26/13, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] mystery many deaths > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013, 4:40 PM > Hi Judy, > > These are some people in my data base and I am wondering if > we too > connect. John Pearce 1786 is my third great Grand Uncle. > > I have another question=== Is it Trezela or Trezelah and is > the proper > way to record it Trezela,(h) Gulval Cornwall.----Bob > Marhenke > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:51:25 -0800 (PST) Judy Jarve <[email protected]> > writes: > > List, > > > > Children of John Pearce and Sarah in Gulval Parish: > > I have found a > > John Pearce born 1810 in Gulval died in 1813 at > Newlyn. > > John Pearce born 1819 in Gulval Residence Trezela. > > Benjamin Pearce born 1811 in Gulval died 1813 at > Trezela. > > Benjamin Pearce born 1814 in Gulval. at Trezela. > > Catherine Pearce born 1812 in Gulval died 1813 at > Trezela. > > William Pearce born 1821 in Gulval died 1822 both > places Trezela > > (Trezeler) > > William Pearce born 182 in gulval > > > > Isn't this unusual? > > Judy Jarve > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > Listmom:  [email protected] > or [email protected] > > > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for > transcription > > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 > ------------------------------- > Listmom:  [email protected] > or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for > transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Judy, These are some people in my data base and I am wondering if we too connect. John Pearce 1786 is my third great Grand Uncle. I have another question=== Is it Trezela or Trezelah and is the proper way to record it Trezela,(h) Gulval Cornwall.----Bob Marhenke On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:51:25 -0800 (PST) Judy Jarve <[email protected]> writes: > List, > > Children of John Pearce and Sarah in Gulval Parish: > I have found a > John Pearce born 1810 in Gulval died in 1813 at Newlyn. > John Pearce born 1819 in Gulval Residence Trezela. > Benjamin Pearce born 1811 in Gulval died 1813 at Trezela. > Benjamin Pearce born 1814 in Gulval. at Trezela. > Catherine Pearce born 1812 in Gulval died 1813 at Trezela. > William Pearce born 1821 in Gulval died 1822 both places Trezela > (Trezeler) > William Pearce born 182 in gulval > > Isn't this unusual? > Judy Jarve > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________ NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1

On Access to Archives there is a document linking the name Sanns with Tregarne.  Sampson and George might be the sons of Richard as they use the alias Richards (possibly a patronymic alias?)   "[no title] AR/4/1461 19 April 1672 These documents are held at Cornwall Record Office Contents: Counterpart of lease, for 99 years, on life of Sampson Sanns alias Richards; term to commence on deaths of Cisley and George Sanns, alias Richards, grandmother and father of (2) (1) Sir John Arundell of Lanherne (2) Sampson Sanns alias Richards of St Keverne, yeoman Property Messuage and tenement in Tregarne in St Keverne, with all appurtenances, now in the tenure of Cisley and George Sans alias Richards; mineral and timber rights reserved Consideration £45 Rent 15s. 4d. One capon yearly or 12d. One harvest journey or 6d. Heriot of one best beast or £3 Covenants To do common suit to the court and mill of the manor To act as reeve if so elected To act as a tenant of the manor To repair and maintain the property Proviso limiting the disposal of the premises, without licence, to his wife or 'some or one of his children' Endorsed Determined [Signature and seal of Sampson Sands]"  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=021-ar_4-2&cid=1-1-8-7-4&kw=sanns#1-1-8-7-4   Joy ________________________________ From: Margaret Bauer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 25 January 2013, 0:31 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Where was Tregarren. Hi Listers Can someone tell me if a place "Tregarren" is the name of a local area near St Keverne, or was it the name of a farm or an estate etc. please? I have a Richard Sanns who was mentioned in the Protestation list of 1641 as being there, but there were many other names as well, so I am now not sure. I tried to call it up on the internet to learn a little more about it, but kept getting some college with the same name, so am not sure what is what. Thankyou Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Queensland, Australia [email protected] ************************* ------------------------------- Listmom:  [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

List, Children of John Pearce and Sarah in Gulval Parish: I have found a John Pearce born 1810 in Gulval died in 1813 at Newlyn. John Pearce born 1819 in Gulval Residence Trezela. Benjamin Pearce born 1811 in Gulval died 1813 at Trezela. Benjamin Pearce born 1814 in Gulval. at Trezela. Catherine Pearce born 1812 in Gulval died 1813 at Trezela. William Pearce born 1821 in Gulval died 1822 both places Trezela (Trezeler) William Pearce born 182 in gulval Isn't this unusual? Judy Jarve

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 6th February, 1857 CAUTION - As Parties are travelling in various parts of Cornwall and Devon under the assumed name of SOLOMON and Co., Opticians, giving their address from Exeter and elsewhere, M. SOLOMON, Optician, 3 Lansdowne Terrace, Exeter, to prevent imposities[?], respectfully calls the attention of the public to the bottom of his circular, to his name in full (MYERS SOLOMON), whose spectacles have given such general satisfaction. A reward of GBP10 will be paid to any person giving such information as will lead to the conviction of any party or parties making use of the name of Myers Solomon, as no Agents are appointed by him. There is no other person of the name of Solomon carrying on the business of Optician in Exeter. Mr. M. Solomon intends visiting Cornwall in March next. Myers Solomon, Licensed Hawker, No. 1054 A. DEATH OF Mr. WILLIAM KING NORWAY - It is with feelings of the liveliest regret that we announce the decease of Mr. Norway. He died, almost suddenly, in London on the evening of Friday last, aged 56 years. There are but few men in Cornwall who were better known, or whose loss would be more deeply lamented. For thirty years he had been conspicuously before the public eye, in his connection with the Press, with a variety of useful institutions, and as a man of versatile talents, and a wide range of literary and general information. His abilities as a political writer first attracted attention in the columns of the late Falmouth Packet, and so deep was the impression made by the vigour and pungency of his writings in that journal, that a handsome testimonial was presented to him at a public dinner, by a numerous body of his friends and admirers in East Cornwall. His views, on almost all matters of grave national interest, were such as have uniformly been advocated in this paper, to which, up to a very recent period, he had been a regular contributor for about twenty years. A distinguishing quality of his mind was its thorough earnestness. His opinions were not mere fancies, afloat on the surface of the mind, but saturated the whole man, - inhered in the very blood and bone. Yet with a tenacity of his cherished convictions which nothing could relax, there was the readiest appreciation of the merits of those who differed from him, and a natural warmth of personal kindliness and courtesy which drew to him the friendliest regards of men of the most diverse views. We should think he never had an enemy; nor do we remember ever to have heard a syllable uttered in disparagement of his feelings of his principles. His school-days were passed at Eton, after which he was placed in training for the law, and entered on the business of his profession as a regular practitioner. But it cannot surprise any one who was acquainted with him that his career in this line was very brief. He might have said of the law, as Slender said of Anne Page, "There was but little love between us at the beginning, and it pleased Heaven to decrease it on further acquaintance." On giving up his professional engagements he devoted much of his time to literary pursuits, and entered with great ardour into the establishment of provincial institutions for the advancement of knowledge. One of the most successful of these was formed at his own residence, Wadebridge; and remains an honourable testimony to his devotedness to the public good. About five years ago, on the relinquishment of the secretaryship of the Reform Club by our respected townsman, Mr. BOND, the high character and well-known abilities of Mr. Norway marked him, in the estimation of the Committee, as a desirable successor. Of this post he discharged the various duties entirely to the satisfaction of the club, and remained in it up to the time of his decease. His removal is a very sudden and unexpected event. The last time we saw him was about six months ago, when we met him at the Crystal Palace. He was then as healthful and sprightly as we had ever seen him, and was anticipating with much pleasure a holiday excursion on the continent. We see him at this moment, as he then stood by us on the Terrace on Penge Hill, watching the hues of a glowing sun-set, shed over that magnificent landscape. How little did we dream, at parting with him, that the sparkle of his eye, and warmth of his hand, were to be just as transient as the light then fading beyond the western hills. But so the companions of our pilgrimage are dropping, one by one, from our path; and of those of whom Death has lately bereft us there are few whose loss will be more deeply or generally felt than the subject of this brief notice. FROM OUR LONDON CORRESPONDENT - We have now abundant evidence of the distress among the working classes. For a week past, bands of unemployed persons have been parading the streets in order to excite charity, and their orderly and respectful conduct shows that their case is one of real hardship. The unemployed consist chiefly of bricklayers, carpenters, and painters; but since the setting in of the frost, the list has been considerably swelled by gardeners, and the field-labourers of the suburbs. It is supposed that so many as fifty thousand persons are now out of employment in the metropolis. No danger to the state of order, or to property, has been threatened as yet, but such a state of things cannot continue for any length of time without producing a popular commotion. It is a very hard thing for men to starve in sight of the wealth and abundance which are everywhere displayed in this capital. If no improvement take place in the labour market, it will be necessary, for the security of property, if not for the sake of the starving operatives, that the government should devise some means of alleviating the general distress. Public works have been talked of, and possibly a remedy may be found in this direction on a legitimate basis - many government building schemes being already in contemplation. Such measurers, however, are not congenial to English ideas of the natural laws of supply and demand; and it would be well if the cause of the present derangement of affairs were fully ascertained, in order that we may know whether it be due to an accident of the moment, or some radical disease in our commercial prosperity. The question is a momentous one. PARISH OF TEMPLE - Surrounded by extensive and dreary moors, to which it gives its name, lies the little parish of Temple, formerly the property of the Knights Templars. It is six miles from Bodmin, its post town contains 936 acres, five houses, and inhabitants at different periods as follows:- 1801 - 15; 1811 - 18; 1821 - 27; 1831 - 29; 1841 - 37; 1851 - 24. The population has from time to time varied considerably. "When I lived in the parish," said old Mr. BURNARD, who has been dead a great number of years, "one half of the men in it were hanged for sheep stealing." At the period here referred to the number of male inhabitants did not exceed two. DAVIES GILBERT says its church has disappeared; this is not the case. The average height of the walls is at this moment not less than three or four feet, and of the tower a considerable portion still stands, and the archway from the church, the only way of access to it, is still entire. The church is fifty-four feet long, and sixteen feet eight inches wide, with a north transept fifteen feet by fourteen feet. The materials of the fallen building lie about in reproachful abundance, as if waiting to be replaced - and a great pity it is they are not. "I wish," said ANTONY HOSKEN, "they'd see and build up the church, t'would be so comfortable like to have a croom of preaching again." It has been in ruins about sixty years. The bell was twice stolen, and after the second theft was irrecoverably lost. An ash tree of considerable size occupies the western end of the nave; the tomb-tablet or head-stone is now to be seen, and only about half-a-dozed graves. The last funeral was that of DANIEL LORD's first wife. The living has been twice augmented by Queen Anne's bounty. It is a curacy in the gift of the Devonshire family of WREY. The tithes are commuted at GBP27. 10s. It was formerly attached to Blisland, but now the surplice duty is performed by the rector of Warleggan, who keeps the registrars. In the inquisition of the Bishops of Lincoln and Winchester into the value of Cornish benefices, in 1294, Capella de Temple was rated in first fruits at 10s. Norden writing about the year 1610, says "it is a place exempted from the bishop's jurisdiction, appertaining in former times to the Templars. It is a lawless church, as they call it, where many bad marriages, where or howsoever contracted are consummated, and here were they wont to bury such as had wrought violent death upon themselves." The parish produces stream tin. The land is chiefly used for grazing. Both churchyard and glebe have been occupied for that purpose for a great number of years by Mr. STEPHENS, land surveyor, of Steppes, near Bodmin, as tenant under the rector of Warleggan. BRITISH PROTECTOR LIFE ASSURANCE COMPANY - On Monday evening, the 19th ult., a dinner was given by the shareholders and assurers at St. Mary's Scilly, in connextion with the above company at Tregarthen's Hotel, to some of the company's representatives, and for the purpose of celebrating the very marked progress of the "British Protector." The shareholders and assurers, forty-six in number, at seven o'clock sat down to a very excellent and varied repast, served up with all the taste, skill, and profusion for which the kind hostess, Mrs. TREGARTHEN, is justly celebrated. After the removal of the cloth, the usual loyal and other toasts were given in a spirited manner by the chairman on the occasion, Mr. J. G. MOYLE, medical officer, and duly responded to. Then followed the toasts of the evening, "The health of Mr. J. N. GORDON, managing director," which was given with enthusiasm, and feelingly acknowledged. "The health of Mr. W. J. MOORE," - manager of the Western Branch. This was given and received in the most cordial manner, as all present were aware of the exertions of this gentleman to promote and forward the best interests of the society. The healths of Mr. E. WOTTON, travelling agent; Mr. J. G. MOYLE, medical officer, Mr. C. W. MUMFORD, local agent, and several other toasts connected with the officers and principals of the institution were then proposed, and replied to in such a way as to afford a great deal of useful information, and the party separated highly pleased with the social intercourse enjoyed and the amount of knowledge obtained. The interest of the proceedings was considerably enhanced by the cheerful and satisfactory answers of the managers present to all questions of shareholders and policy-holders put to them. On the following evening a public meeting was held, - the Rev. A. W. McDONALD in the chair, when Mr. J. N. GORDON, Mr. W. J. MOORE, and Mr. WOTTON, addressed a very large and attentive audience, who expressed their satisfaction by proposing and unanimously giving a vote of thanks to the lecturer, and a vote of confidence in the Institution. On Wednesday evening a full attendance was secured at St. martin's, when the same gentleman gave addresses on the "present position and prospects of the British Protector Company," fully and satisfactorily proving the sound principles on which it is based, and the rapidly advancing progress of this well-deserving and flourishing Assurance Society. LOSTWITHIEL - MEETING OF THE BOOT AND SHOE TRADE - A numerously attended meeting of the master boot and shoe makers of Lostwithiel, Bodmin, St. Blazey, Tywardreath, Fowey, St. Veep, and places adjacent, was held at the King's Arms Inn, on Tuesday last, for the purpose of adopting such measures as the present very high price of leather render necessary. Mr. BROAD, of St. Blazey, was called to the chair, who said that for ages the trade had been far behind other trades in point of remuneration, for whilst other masters could retire, who had ever heard of a shoemaker living on his means, although an equal amount of ability and industry had been exercised. Bad, however, as it always had been, it was now worse, in consequence of the very great advance in the price of leather. Wages had also risen to a considerable extent, but he considered journeymen where not yet paid as they should be. Mr. HOOPER, of Fowey, said all were painfully aware of the disadvantages with which the trade at present had to contend. For two years past he had carried on rather an extensive trade without fair remuneration, but with the present prices it was a positive loss. The masters were willing to bear a large proportion of the burden, but the public must share with them, by submitting to an advance in price. Mr. COLE, of St. Veep, said he had paid minute attention to the cost of materials, and in many instances found it fully equal to the price charged when made up. This was especially so with heavy goods. Mr. RUTTER, of St. Blazey, said an advance of twenty-five per cent. would not put the trade on a footing equal with other trades. Mr. HAM, of Bodmin, said the trade, always bad, was now considerably worse. He had for many years conducted his trade with the utmost caution, using great economy and industry, for merely a subsistence; but under present circumstances it would not pay at all. Mr. Hooper then proposed an advance of twenty to twenty-five per cent., which was seconded by Mr. WILLIAM TALLING, of Lostwithiel, who said the advance proposed was only fair and just, when you take into consideration that the raw material had advanced as much as 300 per cent., and he could see no reason why shoemakers should not live as well as other trades. A vote of thanks was then passed to the chairman, and to those present who had exerted themselves in getting up the meeting on this necessary occasion. The company then separated, determined to adhere to the resolutions of the meeting. SUFFERERS FROM SHIPWRECK - At the weekly meetings of the committee of the Shipwrecked Mariners' Society for the month of January, held at their offices, Hibernia Chambers, London Bridge, the gold medal of the institution was awarded to Mr. JOHN BAMFIELD, master of the "Wave Queen," of Jersey, and the silver medal to JOHN ROMERIL, one of the seamen who accompanied him, for having in a small boat during a gale of wind gallantly rescued the crew of the "Briton" screw steamer from their foundering vessel and landed them sale at Jersey. GREAT NORTHERN HOSPITAL - Mr. ROBERT CHARLES HUNTER, late House Surgeon to the Great Northern Hospital, has been appointed Accoucheur to the same institution. Mr. WILLIAM HILLMAN, of Lyme Regis, succeeds Mr. HUNTER as House Surgeon. QUEEN'S SCHOLARSHIP - It is gratifying to find that all the candidates for Queen's Scholarships, belonging to Church of England schools, in Cornwall, who were examined at Christmas last, have succeeded in obtaining scholarships of the first class. This position entitles them to a two years' training and board and lodging at one of the Normal Colleges, with an addition of GBP10 for personal expenses. The successful competitors were W. F. MILL, and E. J. OKE, from Mr. Basset's school, Pool; Mr. A. JENKIN, Crowan; W. S. TREGEAR, St. Just; and E. J. POLKINHORNE, Training School, Truro. THE CUSTOMS - Mr. MALLEY, comptroller at Padstow, has been appointed to the same office at Bideford. Mr. W. H. HOLMES, jun., principal coast officer and landing waiter at Hayle, has been appointed to act as deputy receiver of wreck for the district extending from Lelant side of Hayle Bar to Godrevy Point. THE GODREVY LIGHTHOUSE - We are informed that Mr. MICHAEL WILLIAMS, M.P., for West Cornwall has, received a reply to the letter he had addressed on this subject to the secretary of the Trinity Board. The Secretary's letter is dated 28th January 1857, and is to the effect "that it has been decided to erect a lighthouse on Godrevy Island, that it had been referred to their engineer, and it was hoped it would be begun in the course of a few months." IMPORTANT SHIPPING CASE - At the East Kirrier Petty Sessions, held at Penryn, on Wednesday the 27th ult., before Mr. ENYS and a full bench of magistrates, RICHARD HENRY RICHARDS, master of the brig "Voluna," of the port of Padstow, 336 tons burthen, was summoned to answer the complaint of Mr. FREDERICK SWATMAN, collector of customs and shipping master of the port of Falmouth, for that he being the master of a certain foreign going ship called the "Voluna," of 100 tons burden and upwards, did, in and about the month of August last, employ WILLIAM GEORGE as mate of the said ship, without ascertaining that he was possessed of a certificate of competency or service, contrary to the form of the statute, &c. Mr. TILLY appeared on behalf of the prosecution, and Mr. MOORMAN for the defence. Mr. Tilly, in opening the case, stated that the proceedings were instituted under the directions of the Board of Trade, and that the offence with which the defendant was charged was in breach of the 136 sect. of the M.S.A., 1854, and after fully directing the attention of the bench to the law bearing upon the subject and the facts of the case, he called Mr. Frederick Swatman, Collector of Customs at Falmouth, who stated that on the 26th August, defendant, who was then the master of the "Voluna," called on him and produced his articles, and required the ship to be cleared for a voyage from Falmouth to Quebec, and back to a final port of discharge in the United Kingdom; but that perceiving there was no chief mate he refused to clear the ship. On the 28th, defendant again called on him with THOMAS LUTEY, whom he stated had engaged as mate, and who produced his certificate and signed the articles as mate, when witness gave defendant his clearance for the ship. On the 29th, witness received the form schedule G signed by defendant, stating that Thomas Lutey had left the ship from sickness; and on the 30th the "Voluna" sailed from Falmouth on her voyage to Quebec, without a chief mate having a certificate appropriate to his station. In support of the case Mr. Tilly put in the ship's articles under the scale of the Board of Trade, dated 26th August, 1856, in which Thomas Lutey appeared as chief mate, and William George as second mate, with a certificate of clearance annexed. He also put in the official log book of the "Voluna," in which was the following entry - "August 30th, Falmouth, Thomas Lutey, mate, was taken sick, sent him on shore as he was unfit to proceed the voyage; William George, second mate, takes the chief mate's place to proceed to Quebec and back to Fowey. Signed Richard H. Richards, master; William George, mate." Mr. Tilly also put in schedule G dated 29th August, signed by defendant, stating that Thomas Lutey had left the ship from sickness; also list C. being an account of the crew at the end of the voyage, dated "Fowey, 24th December, 1856," in which William George appeared as second mate, and also the release of the crew signed by William George. On being cross-examined by Mr. Moorman, Mr. Swatman stated that Captain LANGFORD, the ship's husband, came to the custom-house, with Lutey, when he signed articles. JOHN JOHNS stated that he shipped in the "Voluna" as seaman, on the 26th August, and sailed in her throughout her voyage from Falmouth to Quebec and back to Fowey and that William George acted as chief mate. Mr. Moorman on behalf of the defendant, then addressed the court, stating that he should prove that in this case Captain Langford, the ship's agent, was the whole and sole employer, and that the defendant was coerced into sailing without a chief mate. He then called William George, who stated that he was hired by Captain Langford as second mate, the defendant having nothing to do with his employment. On the 29th of August, Captain Langford told him that when at sea he was to take the office of chief mate, and that the entry in the official log produced, although dated at Falmouth, was in fact made after they had left the port and were at sea. Mr. Tilly objected to oral evidence being given against the written statement in the log. The magistrates, however, decided on receiving it subject to exceptions. On cross-examination, witness admitted that he had no recollection of seeing Lutey on board the "Voluna," or that his outfit for the voyage had been sent on board; that he acted as chief mate under the superior orders of Captain Langford, whom he considered his employer. Richard Henry Richards, the defendant, stated that Captain Langford was the ship's husband; that he employed Lutey and George, and that witness had nothing to do with their engagement or their rate of wages. That he sailed by the orders of Captain Langford without a chief mate, and that the entry in the official log-book was made at sea and not at Falmouth. On cross-examination he admitted that he knew he was doing what was wrong; that it was only his second voyage as master; and that he was coerced into doing it by Captain Langford, who assured him that he would hole him harmless. The magistrates gave the following decision:- "We adjourn our decision in this case to the next Petty Sessions; if, in the meantime, summonses are applied for against the owner and ship's husband, both or either of them, they will be granted, and hear before judgment in this case is pronounced." COURT OF BANKRUPTCY - At the London Court of Bankruptcy, on Monday last, before Mr. Commissioner GOULBURN, the case of Mr. F. JOHNS came before the court. The bankrupt was described as a timber and coal merchant, of Hackney, and Gweek, in the parish of Wendron. Mr. LAWRENCE said he had no objection to an adjournment. The bankrupt had been partner in a large timber business in the West of England, of the solvency of which house there could be no doubt, and there were certain partnership accounts to be obtained. Adjourned accordingly. BODMIN COUNTY COURT - Held at the Assize Hall on Wednesday the 4th instant. In the case of MILROY v. AMELIA GRANT, of Bodmin, defendant was committed for thirty days for not having satisfied judgment of the court. SARGENT v. SEYMOUR - This was an action brought by Mr. THOMAS SARGENT, of Liskeard, against Captain JOHN SEYMOUR, of Polscoe, near Lostwithiel, for recovery of the sum of GBP50, on a dishonoured Bill of Exchange, due the 11th of November, 1854. The amount was reduced to GBP50, the excess being abandoned to bring the action within the jurisdiction of the court. Mr. WALLIS appeared for plaintiff and Mr. COMMINS for defendant. Notice of the dishonour not having been given to defendant for some days, his Honor considered the notice not sufficient and gave a verdict for the defendant. DESERTION OF A FAMILY - On Monday last a man named JOHN SYMONS, a miner was brought on shore from the Dublin Company's steamer by the Falmouth police, and lodged in the station house lock-up, with a female who had gone on board with him. In the evening he was charged before the magistrates with having deserted his wife and children who appeared in court, and the case being proved, he was committed to prison for three months with hard labour. The woman who went on board with him was discharged. Symons was escorted to the prison by a large mob, who hooted and yelled, and had the police not protected him he would have fared badly. A DISGRACEFUL ACT - On Wednesday evening the 28th ultimo, the postman, whose duty it is to clear the postal pillar in Clarence-street, Penzance, did so a little after nine o'clock. The contents, with other letters, were placed on a table in the post-office, but as Miss SWAINE and her assistant took up letter after letter to stamp, they could their arms smarting, and a further search disclosed that some corrosive liquid had been thrown over the letters taken from the Clarence-street pillar. The addresses of some were effaced; others partially so; and all those were sealed up and forwarded to the General Post-Office. A reward of GBP10 was promptly offered, as yet without any effect, and an inspector from the General Post-Office will investigate the matter. CHILD DESERTION - In reference to the case of child desertion which we noticed last week, Mr. S. BENNALLACK of Probus, writes to the effect that Mr. JORY, carpenter of Probus, has no daughter called Mary Jane Jory, and has no other daughter living at Penzance. It would appear that the woman who brought the child to Mr. NASH, police superintendant at Truro, stated an untruth in calling herself the daughter of Mr. Jory, of Probus, Mr. Bennallack thinks the affair was concocted by some disreputable female, in order to get rid of her child, and so far the scheme was successful, it being sent to the union house. Mr. Bennallack hopes that in justice to the public, Mr. Nash, or some other active office, will sift the affair, and bring the guilty parties to justice. STEALING TURNIPS - On Tuesday last, before the Mayor of Truro, and Captain KEMPE, magistrate, SAMUEL TAYLOR, labourer of Truro, was charged with stealing a quantity of turnips, the property of JOHN PLUMMER, a farmer, at Kenwyn Church-town. It appeared that Mr. Plummer occupies a farm near Kenwyn church, and adjoining a turnip field on his farm is the road leading from the turnpike to the church. On the Wednesday previous a farmer, named HERCULES SOLOMON, of Short-lane's-end, was passing in a cart, and saw the prisoner Taylor in the road with a bag, into which he was putting turnips as fast as they were thrown over the hedge to him by a man in the field. Solomon went on some distance, but then returned, and going up to Taylor, asked him what he had got in his bag. Taylor, in reply, made use of some very bad expressions. Solomon said he should take him into custody, and take him to Plummer for stealing his turnips. Taylor said, if he came near him he would put a knife into him; Taylor then threw the turnips out of the bag and walked away. Mr. Solomon gave information to Mr. Plummer, and described the man. Mr. Plummer gave the same description of the man at the Truro police station, and on Monday last, Taylor was apprehended, and identified by HERCULES SOLOMON as the man whom he saw putting the turnips in the bag. Mr. Plummer had a quantity of turnips in the field which had been recently drawn, and he could not prove whether the stolen turnips had been drawn, or taken from the heap. The prisoner stated that the turnips were drawn, which was the lesser office, and for which he was committed for one month to hard labour. PENZANCE POLICE - At the Guildhall, on the 28th ult., before Mr. T. COULSON, mayor, Capt. THOMAS BENNETTS, of the schooner "Union," of Belfast, charged JAMES HIGGINS, one of his crew, with desertion on the 28th. Higgins received a month's advance at Cardiff, and on the vessel's putting in here for repairs left her, as did the rest of the crew, except the mate and a boy. His excuse was that the vessel was unseaworthy, but the captain disproved this. The "Union" was fourteen years old, North American built, sheathed with zinc, and only sprung a leak in consequence of the late severe weather. Higgins was committed for a month. CAMBORNE PETTY SESSIONS - On Tuesday last, RICHARD SPARNON and STEPHEN BENNETTS, of the parish of Camborne, were summoned before the magistrates for an assault on Mr. and Mrs. HUNTER, of the Hotel, at Tuckingmill, on the 17th ult. The case was fully proved, and they were find GBP2 each and expenses, amounting altogether to GBP6. The fine was paid. ST. AUSTELL PETTY SESSIONS - WILLIAM CROWLE, Charlestown, was summoned for being drunk and disorderly in the Market-house, and having been twice previously convicted of a similar office, he was ordered to find sureties to keep the peace for three months himself in GBP10, and two sureties in GBP5 each. HENRY BRAGG, a waggoner of St. Dennis, was fined 5S. and costs for leaving his waggon without a driver in the street. ACCIDENT - On Wednesday last, a young woman named MARY ROWE, when on her way from Helston to Constantine, in getting out of the cart to lead the horse, fell, and the cartwheels passed over her arm and leg, fracturing them both in a dreadful manner. She is in a very precarious condition, but hopes are entertained of her recovery. CORONERS' INQUEST - The following inquests have been held by Mr. JOHN CARLYON county coroner:- On the Tuesday the 29th ult., at Shallow Adit, Redruth, on the body of MARTHA ANN GOLSWORTHY, aged 7 years, who caught her clothes on fire on Tuesday during the temporary absence of her mother who had gone for a course of water, and was so seriously burnt before she returned that she only survived a few hours. Verdict "Accidental death." On Tuesday last, at Gwennap, on the body of a newly-born female, which a single woman called ANN JENKIN had given birth to early on Monday morning. SAMUEL JENKIN, the grandfather of the child, deposed that on Thursday evening, having heard that his daughter was in the family way, he questioned her on the subject, and she most positively denied that such as the case. On Sunday evening he and his wife went to bed about half-past nine o'clock; his daughter had got up about ten minutes before, and her two sisters and her brother - the eldest aged 8, and the youngest 2 1/2 years, slept in the same bed with her, and in the same room with the witness and his wife. He heard no disturbance in the course of the night, and a few minutes after five on Monday morning he called his daughter to go down and get breakfast for him; which she did. As soon as he had finished breakfast he went to a mine to work; but he had not been there long before he was sent for, and on returning home found that his daughter had had a child in the course of the night, and the child was then lying dead in a flasket down stairs. He then went to inform the constable of it, and the coroner was sent for. ANNE JENKIN, wife of the last witness, and grandmother of the child, deposed that she came down stairs on Monday morning just as her husband had finished breakfast and was going out to work; and a few minutes afterwards her daughter told her that she had had a child in bed about one o'clock that morning, and that she lay perfectly still until she got down to get breakfast for her father, when she brought the child down with her and placed it in a flasket; and witness, on looking into the flasket found the child there, dead, wrapped up in an old frock; and she immediately went to the mine to fetch her husband. She also had charged her daughter on two occasions, with being in the family way, and each time she positively denied it. Mr. PENBERTHY, surgeon, who examined the body, deposed that it was that of a full-timed female child, and there were no external marks of violence on any part of it. On opening the chest he found the lungs small in volume; the right one partially inflated, and it crackled under pressure; but the left lung had never been inflated. He was of opinion that, although the child had breathed, it had died before it was fully born, either from the bed clothes pressing on it, or from some other accidental cause in the act of birth. All the other internal organs were healthy, and he had every reason to suppose that if the mother had had proper medical assistance at the time of birth, the child would have been born alive and done well. This being the whole of the evidence, the coroner told the jury that in consequence of there being no proof that the child had been born and that it had an independent existence, the office, if any, was one of concealment of birth, which must come under the cognisance of a magistrate and not the coroner. The jury coincided with this view of the case and returned a verdict that there was no proof that the child was born alive. The jury was composed of seventeen of the most respectable inhabitants of the neighbourhood. No doubt some steps will be taken to bring the case before another tribunal. On the same day at Tregony, on the body of FRANCIS WOOLCOCK, mason, aged seventy-three years, who died in a very sudden and unexpected manner, on Monday morning. Verdict, "Death from natural causes." The following inquests have been held by Mr. HICHENS, county coroner:- On the 29th ultimo, in the parish of St. Hilary, on the body of JOSIAH MATTHEWS, aged 50 years, who was found dead in his bed on the preceding day. Verdict, "Natural death." On Tuesday last, in the borough of St. Ives, on the body of ELEANOR STEPHENS, aged 76 years. The deceased, on Saturday evening last, whilst occupied in preparing her husband's supper, fell to the floor in a state of insensibility, from which she shortly recovered, and having been put to bed, rose on the following morning in her usual health, which considering her great age, was good. In the afternoon of that day, whiles occupied in wiping out a kittle, in which dinner had been dressed, she fell again to the floor in a fit, from which she partially recovered, but she had frequent returns of the attack, which at length terminated in her death, about eleven o'clock at night. Verdict, "Natural death." INQUEST ON Mr. W. K. NORWAY - On Monday morning last, an inquest was held in the saloon of the Reform Club-house, Pall-mall, before Mr. CHARLES ST. CLAIR BEDFORD, coroner for Westminster, and fourteen jurors, of whom Mr. THOMAS HENRY was foreman, upon view of the body of the deceased gentleman, who was stated to have been fifty-six years of age. Mr. SAMUEL NORWAY, of 2 Marlborough-terrace, Harrow-road, surgeon, brother of deceased, stated that the latter was an attorney by profession. Witness was present at his last illness, which took place at six o'clock in the evening of Friday last. He came to see deceased on that occasion at half-past four o'clock - having been sent for on account of his sudden and serious illness. On arriving at the club-house, he found the pupils of deceased's eyes were much contracted, and that he was breathing with the greatest difficulty. About half-an-hour before his death, he became partially sensible, but did not speak. Had no doubt he was labouring under the effects of opium. Was not aware that he had been in the habit of taking opium. Saw a small bottle in the room capable of holding two drachms of laudanum. Witness knew of no reason for deceased having taken laudanum to destroy himself. He had been affected with rheumatic gout. He might have taken laudanum on that account. Had no doubt he died from the effects of that poison. By a Juror: he had been attended by a medical man, Mr. VACEY, who was present. Mr. CHARLES KINFORD VACEY, 74 St. Martin's Lane, surgeon, stated that he had attended the deceased about six or seven weeks since for an attack of rheumatic gout, when the medicine prescribed for him having an effect on the bowels, which was not intended, he sent him the two-drachm bottle produced, filled with laudanum with directions to take about eight or ten drops with each dose of medicine. By the Coroner: That would not be a large dose for a person not accustomed to take laudanum. A much larger dose was often given to produce sleep. Witness continued: On Thursday last deceased had another attack of gout, and sent to him (witness) for some laudanum, when the same two-drachm phial was again filled and sent by the messenger, a boy belonging to the club-house. Witness afterwards called upon the deceased, and again prescribed for and sent him some medicine. This was about three o'clock in the afternoon. There was no laudanum in that medicine. Heard nothing of him until the next day (Friday), about two o'clock in the afternoon, when he attended by direction and found deceased very ill, evidently labouring under symptoms produced by opium, from the pupils of the eyes being contracted, and being under lethargy and coma, and sterterous breathing. No doubt he died from the effects of laudanum. Witness should not have thought the quantity sufficient to have caused the death of the deceased; in fact it is the smallest dose on record that has produced a fatal effect in an adult. He did not think it would have destroyed the life of one man in a thousand. By the Coroner: If affected with disease of the brain or bronchitis it might have been fatal, but should say it would not have had such effect on persons because affected with gout or rheumatism. Witness continued: Had been told that another boy besides the one referred to had fetched laudanum for the deceased, but that boy, as he now understood, was in the country. By a Juror: Had no doubt deceased was in a sound state of mind. W. HENRY TIPPETT, one of the footmen at the club-house, deposed to finding the deceased dangerously ill, as also to his having been bled, about a pint of blood being taken from deceased. Dr. GOLDSWORTHY GURNEY, of the House of Commons, said he knew the deceased well, having attended him when twenty-fix years of age on several occasions. He was affected with a peculiar irritable state of the stomach, which has an unusual sympathy on the brain, so much so that he (witness) had known two or three glasses of wine to throw him into a state of torpor, sometimes approaching to delirium. He in consequence suffered morally in reputation, and at the request of witness, he abstained from spirits or wine, and became what is called a tee-totaller. Witness thought therefore, that the two drahms of laudanum might have had a fatal effect upon him, although he thought it would not have had the same result with one man in a thousand. Witness had attended the father of deceased, who died from being similarly affected. Had no doubt deceased died from the effects of laudanum. Considered deceased well knew the nature and power of laudanum, and was of opinion that had he intended to destroy his life, that instead of two drachms he would have taken at least two ounces. It was further stated that no boy from the club-house had fetched any laudanum, excepting what was known to Mr. Vacey, deceased's medical attendant, and by the desire of Mr. S. Norway, the brother of deceased, it was shown by the evidence of Mr. R. W. CHILDS that his affairs were correct. The jury, after a brief consultation, returned a verdict that the deceased died from the effects of opium which he had taken accidentally to alleviate pain, and not suicidally.

Margaret's post and the follow-ups led me to suspect that she had obtained her information about "Tregarren" from a transcription or index, without the original images being available to see whether that was how the name of the place was actually written in the original or if "Tregrarren" was really an artifact of transcription of a place name that had other potential readings. While indexes and transcriptions are very valuable, it is really the original document that is the source, so that the index or transcription is really a stepping stone to the real goal. Unfortunately digitized images of original records are only slowly making their way to the Internet. So this led me to seek out either a web site that might have the images of the St. Keverne Protestation Returns or else tell me where the original document is so that a copy might be obtained. And this has led to a series of web pages that might be of interest to others ... and also to not being able to find even where the original document is, something that an index or transcript should ideally include in its text but which often is not included. Googling on "protestation returns 1641 sanns" (without the quotes in the Google query), I found the likely web page that Margaret had found with the transcription of the returns: http://www.st-keverne.com/history/records/protestation.html Sure enough, it does say "Tregarren". And sure enough there is no mention of where the original records are, from which the transcription was made. I then changed my Google search to "protestation returns 1641 images" (again no quotes). This brought back a set of images, one of which was of a hand-written document. Clicking on that one, I eventually wound up at the Parliament page on protestation returns: http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/parliamentary-archives/archives-highlights/familyhistory/sources/protestations/ This gave specific instructions for searching their collections with their Portcullis search engine. Following those instructions yielded the list of returns by county, with four separate entries for Cornwall: Go     HL/PO/JO/10/1/79     Main Papers: Protestation Returns Cornwall A     1642     Protestation Returns Go     HL/PO/JO/10/1/79A     Main Papers: Protestation Returns Cornwall A (Callington)     1642     Protestation Returns Go     HL/PO/JO/10/1/80     Main Papers: Protestation Returns Cornwall B     1642     Protestation Returns Go     HL/PO/JO/10/1/81     Main Papers: Protestation Returns Cornwall C     1642     Protestation Returns So, I thought, I will soon know where the original document is held. And I clicked the "Go" links for each one, looking so see which one held St. Keverne's return. And there it is in the listing of parishes of the Hundred of Kerrier in the "Cornwall A" list. Both the overview page and the Portcullis overview page have information about how to obtain copies, as opposed to actually visiting and searching the records. It would be a good idea for the St. Keverne web page with the transcription to either obtain these copies and post them or at least to post the information about where the original record can be found. It would be interesting to find out just what the word transcribed as "Tregarren" looks like in the original. ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:31:55 +1000 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Where was Tregarren. Hi Listers Can someone tell me if a place "Tregarren" is the name of a local area near St Keverne, or was it the name of a farm or an estate etc. please? I have a Richard Sanns who was mentioned in the Protestation list of 1641 as being there, but there were many other names as well, so I am now not sure. I tried to call it up on the internet to learn a little more about it, but kept getting some college with the same name, so am not sure what is what. Thankyou Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Queensland, Australia [email protected] *************************

Margaret, Have you tried the gazetteer on GenUKI Cornwall? I didn't find your name, but I did try looking at St Keverne nearby places and saw a few possibilities. (370 years is time enough for place names to vary!) I looked at the Protestation and it looks very much like a tithing of St Keverne. There are 19th century tithe maps for all of Cornwall and the St Keverne one might help. (Possibly the relevant OPC - Diane Donohue or Terry Moyle would have a copy. Actually, knowing Diane, I'd say that was very likely.) Best, Ken > From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:31:55 +1000 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Where was Tregarren. > > Hi Listers > Can someone tell me if a place "Tregarren" is the name of a local area near > St Keverne, or was it the name of a farm or an estate etc. please? > I have a Richard Sanns who was mentioned in the Protestation list of 1641 as > being there, but there were many other names as well, so I am now not sure. > I tried to call it up on the internet to learn a little more about it, but > kept getting some college with the same name, so am not sure what is what. > > Thankyou > Margaret > ************************* > Margaret Bauer > Queensland, Australia > [email protected] > *************************

Margaret I have had no success in my endeavours to locate Tregarren within St Keverne parish. However, there is a small settlement called Tregarne which is due north of St Keverne village. There is also a Tregarne Mill nearby. I am wondering if, perhaps, your Tregarren is a corruption of Tregarne. The St Keverne Local History Society mentions Tregarne as follows: *The manor of Tregarn extending to St. Anthony and other parishes mentioned in the Domesday Book was the property of Leofric first Bishop of Exeter in the reign of Edward the Confessor and William 1. It afterwards became the possession of the Earls of Cornwall. Subsequently for many generations it belonged to the Arundel family. In 1757 it was sold by Rtichard Arundel, Esq., of Lanhern to William Lemon, Bart. From whom the Manor descended to his sister’s son colonel Tremayne.* Colin Ward CFHS 10787 On 25 January 2013 12:32, Ken Ozanne <[email protected]> wrote: > Margaret, > Have you tried the gazetteer on GenUKI Cornwall? I didn't find > your > name, but I did try looking at St Keverne nearby places and saw a few > possibilities. (370 years is time enough for place names to vary!) > > I looked at the Protestation and it looks very much like a tithing > of St Keverne. There are 19th century tithe maps for all of Cornwall and > the > St Keverne one might help. (Possibly the relevant OPC - Diane Donohue or > Terry Moyle would have a copy. Actually, knowing Diane, I'd say that was > very likely.) > > Best, > Ken > > > > > From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:31:55 +1000 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Where was Tregarren. > > > > Hi Listers > > Can someone tell me if a place "Tregarren" is the name of a local area > near > > St Keverne, or was it the name of a farm or an estate etc. please? > > I have a Richard Sanns who was mentioned in the Protestation list of > 1641 as > > being there, but there were many other names as well, so I am now not > sure. > > I tried to call it up on the internet to learn a little more about it, > but > > kept getting some college with the same name, so am not sure what is > what. > > > > Thankyou > > Margaret > > ************************* > > Margaret Bauer > > Queensland, Australia > > [email protected] > > ************************* > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, < Can someone tell me if a place "Tregarren" is the name of a local area near St Keverne, or was it the name of a farm or an estate etc. please? > There's a Tregarne about a mile NNW of St Keverne which looks as though it might be a farm. Go to www.streetmap.co.uk and search for Tregarne. I hope that helps a bit. Tom Thompson, St Agnes.

It's always nice to hear the success stories, Judy. Your message will delight the army of volunteers who labour in silence so that they can help researchers via an information-rich database or, in a more personal way, directly via email answers to questions directed to them. They are a good bunch of people. Bob Bolitho On 25/01/2013 10:44 AM, Judy Jarve wrote: > Hi > Ditto for me as to what Bob Bolitho has spoken. The website is the best in the world, I think. The people have been so helpful, also. Joy Langdon put me on the right track to finding my ancestors after years of hitting "brick walls". The people who gave me the original information did not catch the error as to where my ggggrandfather came from. I had a "gut feeling" that something was wrong with my info, With her help, I was able to put together the right family. The naming procedure was there and explained where my gggrandfather named all his children. What a find! Thanks to Joy and her help and the wonderful avenue of information that the volunteers have provided, now I am on the right track! > > Judy ROWE Jarve

Hi Listers Can someone tell me if a place "Tregarren" is the name of a local area near St Keverne, or was it the name of a farm or an estate etc. please? I have a Richard Sanns who was mentioned in the Protestation list of 1641 as being there, but there were many other names as well, so I am now not sure. I tried to call it up on the internet to learn a little more about it, but kept getting some college with the same name, so am not sure what is what. Thankyou Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Queensland, Australia [email protected] *************************

Buried in St Just in Penwith Wesleyan Methodist cemetery - Mrs Benjamin BOTTRELL died 5 Feb 1936 Botallack Annie Goddard BOYNS died 8 Feb 1936 22 Pleasant Terrace Elizabeth Jane EDDY aged 87 died 22 Feb 1936 14 Tregeseal Richard Herbert BOYNS aged 69 died 3 Mar 1936 Chapel Street Emily Maude WARREN died 18 Mar 1936 Chapel Street Mrs M A TIPPETT died Apr 1936 9 South Place Charles JEFFERY aged 68 died 18 Apr 1936 Carrallack Terrace John Henry WARREN died 22 Apr 1936 Botallack Michael Thomas BENNETTS aged 50 died 30 Apr 1936 West Cornwall Hospital, Penzance Benjamin OATES aged 67 died 9 May 1936 Queen Street Percy BOWLER aged 60 died 3 Jul 1936 Nancherrow Richard NICHOLAS aged 33 died 1 Nov 1936 Tregeseal Hill Mary Ball (Minnie) COPPLESTONE died 26 Nov 1936 16 Bay View Terrace, Penzance Ivy Annie ROWE died Nov 1936 32 Queen Street Richard DAVEY died Dec 1936 Botallack Moor Details from The Cornishman newspaper. This is not a comprehensive list. Bob Bolitho OPC St Just in Penwith

St Elwyn in Hayle is an Anglican Church, not a Roman Catholic church. I'm not aware that any Roman Catholic church records are publicly available. There is a website built by the original St Erth OPC that is still available. It contains burials and marriages up to 1960 (although info on the more recent marriages is quite limited). The web address is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sterth/ Cheers John Smith OPC Phillack and Hayle (and now St Erth too)

Hi Jan Two possible sources would be the Cornishman newspaper, published in Penzance, the Morrab Library or some very good St.Erth Parish records which are obtainable by googling that address. However, whether there would be any official record while the war was still in progress could be doubtful. The nearest Catholic church would be in Hayle (St.Elwyns??????) but try the Morrab Library for historical information. A lot of the prisoners either didn't get repatriated or came back as soon as they could. I remember the shock when I met a girl in Perth, Western Australia, who was more Italian than Mussolini but spoke with a broad Glasgow accent! Cheers Pat On 24/01/2013 4:16 PM, Jan Ashwin wrote: > Yes Pat . I am wanting to know what month and year the Italian pows were in > St Erth, Janet . ;[Jan] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Banks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:29 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Italian POW's > > >> Poor Tom is getting everything but an answer to his question of time the >> Italians were in Cornwall - presumably to establish a family date. >> >> Sorry Tom. Thoughts of Italian POWS's bring only happy memories. >> Whereas the Germans remained in their camps, the Italians were sent out >> to help on the farms around the district. I have many memories of >> riding my bike along country lanes around Penzance when I was in my >> teens (about 1942-4) and being greeted and waved to by the Ities as we >> called them. I think they were relieved to be out of the war and from >> under the foot of the Nazis and doing what they liked best - working in >> the fields of a family farm. I don't recall any of them trying to >> escape. >> >> Sorry Tom >> >> Pat >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2639/5551 - Release Date: 01/22/13 >> > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Yes Pat . I am wanting to know what month and year the Italian pows were in St Erth, Janet . ;[Jan] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Italian POW's > Poor Tom is getting everything but an answer to his question of time the > Italians were in Cornwall - presumably to establish a family date. > > Sorry Tom. Thoughts of Italian POWS's bring only happy memories. > Whereas the Germans remained in their camps, the Italians were sent out > to help on the farms around the district. I have many memories of > riding my bike along country lanes around Penzance when I was in my > teens (about 1942-4) and being greeted and waved to by the Ities as we > called them. I think they were relieved to be out of the war and from > under the foot of the Nazis and doing what they liked best - working in > the fields of a family farm. I don't recall any of them trying to > escape. > > Sorry Tom > > Pat > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2639/5551 - Release Date: 01/22/13 >

Hi Ditto for me as to what Bob Bolitho has spoken. The website is the best in the world, I think. The people have been so helpful, also. Joy Langdon put me on the right track to finding my ancestors after years of hitting "brick walls". The people who gave me the original information did not catch the error as to where my ggggrandfather came from. I had a "gut feeling" that something was wrong with my info, With her help, I was able to put together the right family. The naming procedure was there and explained where my gggrandfather named all his children. What a find! Thanks to Joy and her help and the wonderful avenue of information that the volunteers have provided, now I am on the right track! Judy ROWE Jarve