Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which was settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the name may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield Hi Julie According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? Cheers Pat On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the > upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne > Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her > greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the > various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? > > > > Cheers > > Julie > > Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > > Now in NSW, Australia > > OPC for Redruth > > President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > > <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > > > > Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > > <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding Jayne Mansfield, her daughter with Mickey Hargetay, is Mariska Hargitay from "Law and Order - SVU". She was in the backseat when Jayne was in the accident that killed her. Jan in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Noonan" <cpolglase@verizon.net> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which was > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the > name > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Julie > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the >> upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne >> Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Julie >> >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall >> >> Now in NSW, Australia >> >> OPC for Redruth >> >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall >> >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ >> >> >> >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vera Jane Palmer's Great Grandfather was Thomas Palmer (b. abt 1832 d. aft 1890 in the US), who married Mary J. (LNU) (b. abt 1836 d. bet. 1880 & 1890 in the US). Their son Elmer E. Palmer (1868-1930) m. Alice Jackson (1873-1930) Their son (her father) Herbert W. Palmer (1903-1939) m. Vera Jane Palmer (1903-2000), dau. of Thomas H. Palmer and Beatrice Mary Jeffery. Palmers on both sides... I have a cousin who is a descendant of a world champion slate splitter from the area, and she has worked on those lines. She sometimes monitors this list sherri from Bangor, PA (neighbor of Pen Argyl) Here's the ahnentafel that I have for her: 1. Vera Jayne "Jayne Mansfield" Palmer, b. 19 APR 1933 in Bryn Mawr, PA, d. 29 JUN 1967 in Slidell, Louisiana, buried in Fairview Cemetery, Northampton Co., PA. She married (1) Paul J. Mansfield, married 30 MAY 1950 in Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., TX, b. abt 193x, d. __ ___ ____. She married (2) Miklos "Mickey" Karoly Hargitay, married 13 JAN 1958 in Palos Verde, Los Angeles Co., CA, b. 19 OCT 1926 in Budapest, Hungary, d. 14 SEP 2006 in West Hollywood, Los Angeles Co., CA. She married (3) Matt "Matt Cimber" Ottaviano, married abt SEP 1964, b. abt 193x, d. __ ___ ____. Parents 2. Herbert W. Palmer, b. __ ___ 1903, d. __ ___ 1939. He married Vera Jane Palmer. 3. Vera Jane Palmer, b. 19 MAY 1903, d. __ ___ 2000. Grandparents 4. Elmer E. Palmer, b. __ ___ 1868, d. __ ___ 1930. He married Alice J. Jackson. 5. Alice J. Jackson, b. __ ___ 1873, d. __ ___ 1930. 6. Thomas H. Palmer, b. __ ___ 1879, d. __ ___ ____. He married Beatrice Mary Jeffery. 7. Beatrice Mary Jeffery, b. __ MAR 1880 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England, d. 06 JAN 1963 in Pen Argyl, Northampton Co., PA. Great-Grandparents 8. Thomas Palmer, b. abt 1832 in England, d. aft 1890 in Pen Argyl, Northampton Co,. PA. He married Mary J. <LNU>. 9. Mary J. <LNU>, b. abt 1836 in England, d. bet 1880 & 1890. 10. William H. Jackson, b. __ ___ 1851, d. __ ___ 1930. He married Amanda Custer. 11. Amanda Custer, b. __ ___ 1855, d. __ ___ 1930. 14. Henry Jeffery, b. abt 1857, d. bef 1940. He married Elizabeth Jane Cowling. 15. Elizabeth Jane Cowling, b. abt 1858 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England, d. 15 DEC 1940 in Pen Argyl, PA, buried 18 DEC 1940 in "the local cemetery". Great-Great-Grandparents 22. Michael Custer, b. __ ___ 1824, d. __ ___ ____. He married Levina <LNU>. 23. Levina <LNU>, b. __ ___ 1829, d. __ ___ ____. 30. Robert Cowling, b. abt 1834 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England, d. aft 1871. He married Mary Ann Lobb. 31. Mary Ann Lobb, b. abt 1835 in St. Condellion?, Cornwall, England, d. aft 1871. === On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Carol Noonan <cpolglase@verizon.net> wrote: > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which was > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the name > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Julie > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the > > upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne > > Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her > > greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the > > various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Julie > > > > Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > > > > Now in NSW, Australia > > > > OPC for Redruth > > > > President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > > > > <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> > > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > > > > > > > > Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > > > > <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > Subscribe to digest by sending an email toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. 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Hi Carol I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she was the actress. Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. Cheers Pat On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which was > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the name > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Julie > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the >> upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne >> Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Julie >> >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall >> >> Now in NSW, Australia >> >> OPC for Redruth >> >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall >> >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ >> >> >> >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

First husband was Paul J. Mansfield. sherri On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Pat Banks <tencreek@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi Carol > > I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was > definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus > her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to > Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the > Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of > either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she > was the actress. Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which > was > > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is > > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the > name > > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > > Behalf Of Pat Banks > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > > > Hi Julie > > > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania > > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the > >> upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne > >> Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her > >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the > >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Julie > >> > >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > >> > >> Now in NSW, Australia > >> > >> OPC for Redruth > >> > >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > >> > >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> > >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > >> > >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email > toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > > MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > ------------------------------- > > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to > CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to > CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject > line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email > CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.comwith the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >