Jan: We have RICKARDs here at Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. My RICKARD family history book is at my Dad's, but I am over there tomorrow and I'll look up where this branch of the family came from. There was a fellow here in Bowmanville a few years ago who insisted that his Jenkin family came from Germany. I tried to tell him that Jenkin was Cornish and his home parish was likely St. German's - but he'd not hear of it! Stubborn old @#$%^& !! Said a "real" genealogist ( a paid person) found that out for him!! I'll be in touch tomorrow. Sher At 01:04 PM 19/05/2012 -0700, you wrote: >Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - >(So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) >I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know >it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that >name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish >descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw >lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. >I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who >insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found >several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan >areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German >heritage. >Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything >in Cornish? >Thanks for your input! >Jan RICKARD Davis >------------------------------- >Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > >Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >18:34:00

Thanks for looking them up. I have heard rumors that my great grandfather, James RICKARD stopped off somewhere in the midwest before he came to California, sometime between 1871 and 1880. Maybe he left a wife and some children behind??? Who knows... Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sher Leetooze" <sherleetooze@interlinks.net> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH] RICKARD name origin? > Jan: > We have RICKARDs here at Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. My RICKARD family > history book is at my Dad's, but I am over there tomorrow and I'll look up > where this branch of the family came from. There was a fellow here in > Bowmanville a few years ago who insisted that his Jenkin family came from > Germany. I tried to tell him that Jenkin was Cornish and his home parish > was likely St. German's - but he'd not hear of it! Stubborn old @#$%^& > !! Said a "real" genealogist ( a paid person) found that out for > him!! I'll be in touch tomorrow. > Sher > > > At 01:04 PM 19/05/2012 -0700, you wrote: >>Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - >>(So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) >>I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know >>it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that >>name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish >>descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw >>lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. >>I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who >>insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found >>several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan >>areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German >>heritage. >>Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything >>in Cornish? >>Thanks for your input! >>Jan RICKARD Davis >>------------------------------- >>Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >>MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >>Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to >>CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >>18:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan I’ve been following the talk about the name Rickard with interest. I just thought I should let you know that I will be at Bridgeport during the CCC conference in June (in the guise of the Director of the Cornish Global Migration Programme). It just happens I’ve prepared a little presentation that is intended to illustrate how we (the CGMP) try to follow the Cornish as they travel around the world. I’ve picked a rather unusual example which follows Cornish engineers from Cornwall in the 1850’s who travelled to France and other European countries – but the saga ends up in California (and the White House) - thanks to a remarkable branch of the Rickard family. I’m sure if we meet up at Bridgeport we will have much to talk about that, perhaps even the very Cornish family name of Rickard! My wife are flying to Sacramento on the 29th May, picking up a hire car and driving initially in the direction of Grass Valley, hopefully arriving some days later at Bridgeport (taking care as we visit Donner Pass), via a motel or two and not being diverted by expected attractions. Hopefully will meet you in California! And, of course, all others who may be attending the California Cornish Cousins annual get together. Regards, Mike (Kiernan) Redruth

I was told that my Jenkyn/Jenkin/Jenking folks originated in Flanders. That's getting closer to Germany. Jan Mackey in beautiful Garden Grove, California Sent from my iPad On May 19, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Sher Leetooze <sherleetooze@interlinks.net> wrote: > Jan: > We have RICKARDs here at Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. My RICKARD family > history book is at my Dad's, but I am over there tomorrow and I'll look up > where this branch of the family came from. There was a fellow here in > Bowmanville a few years ago who insisted that his Jenkin family came from > Germany. I tried to tell him that Jenkin was Cornish and his home parish > was likely St. German's - but he'd not hear of it! Stubborn old @#$%^& > !! Said a "real" genealogist ( a paid person) found that out for > him!! I'll be in touch tomorrow. > Sher > > > At 01:04 PM 19/05/2012 -0700, you wrote: >> Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - >> (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) >> I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know >> it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that >> name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish >> descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw >> lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. >> I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who >> insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found >> several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan >> areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German >> heritage. >> Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything >> in Cornish? >> Thanks for your input! >> Jan RICKARD Davis >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >> MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >> 18:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The names Rickard and Richard, both with or without a terminal -s, occur all over Europe with quite widely varying spellings, for example Ricciardo in Italy. The English kings of that name were of Norman descent (and largely French-speaking), but the Normans in turn came from Scandinavia and penetrated western Europe all the way down to Italy. As the Scandinavian languages are in the same broad group as German and Dutch (and hence also Flemish, Afrikaans etc.), the name is certainly NOT of Cornish origin, but would have come in with the Anglo-Saxons at the earliest. Of course, Cornwall names are a mix of Anglo-Saxon, Norman-French and Celtic, and so it is not surprising to find persons of Cornish descent bearing such names in mining areas around the world. (The addition of -s or -son to either name makes it a patronymic, i.e. originally held by someone whose father's given name was Richard or Rickard. In Wales, the patronymic is sometimes indicated by Ap, and names such as Ap Richard and Ap Rhys or Reese were corrupted to Pritchard and Price; and similarly with Mac in Scotland and Ireland.) One source found on Google suggests that the name means "strong ruler", the "ruler" bit being RIC, which has an obvious connection with the German Reich, meaning a kingdom. German spelling was also very variable, and wasn't stabilized to what we see today until the time of the Martin Luther Bible, much as as the King James Bible stabilized English spelling. Another source suggested that the Rickards/Richards spelling was common in both England and Scotland, rather than specifically Cornwall, which it penetrated in the same way as other English names did. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com