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    1. [CORNISH] Meaning attached to name
    2. Col Paterson
    3. G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is a male child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. Arundel Castle is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it would have some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. What ideas can we come up with? Orlabest Col

    07/26/2012 10:19:31
    1. Re: [CORNISH] Meaning attached to name
    2. Sher Leetooze
    3. Col: Here is what the Wikipedia says..... Sir John Arundell (died 15 September 1580), of <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trerice>Trerice in <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall>Cornwall, was an English landowner and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_Parliament>Member of Parliament. Sir John was the son of <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28admiral%29>Sir John Arundell.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28of_Trerice,_died_1580%29#cite_note-Visitation-0>[1] He was a retiring figure for much of his life and less celebrated than either his father, (nicknamed "Tilbury Jack") or his son <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28born_1576%29>Sir John Arundell (nicknamed "Jack for the King"), both also called Sir John Arundell of Trerice. He was Member of Parliament for <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_%28UK_Parliament_constituency%29>Mitchell in the Parliaments of 1555 and 1558, and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sheriff_of_Cornwall>High Sheriff of Cornwall in 1573-1574. He married twice; firstly Catherine Coswarth and secondly Gertrude Denys, the daughter of Sir Robert Denys of <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holcombe_Burnell>Holcombe Burnell in Devon, and had at least eight children including John, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Arundell_%28of_Duloe%29>Thomas and Juliana, who married the historian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carew_%28antiquary%29>Richard Carew.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28of_Trerice,_died_1580%29#cite_note-Visitation-0>[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28of_Trerice,_died_1580%29#cite_note-1>[2] References * ^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28of_Trerice,_died_1580%29#cite_ref-Visitation_0-0>a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28of_Trerice,_died_1580%29#cite_ref-Visitation_0-1>b <http://www.archive.org/stream/visitationofcoun00sain#page/2/mode/2up>Visitation of the County of Cornwall in the Year 1620 * <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Arundell_%28of_Trerice,_died_1580%29#cite_ref-1>^ <http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/JohnArundellofTrerice.htm>"Sir John ARUNDELL of Trerice". Tudor Place. Retrieved 1 July 2011. * <http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/JohnArundellofTrerice.htm>Tudor Place * Burke's Extinct Peerage (London: Henry Colburn & Richard Bentley, 1831) <http://books.google.com/books?id=aB0IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA149&lpg=PA149&dq=john+crew+1st+baron&source=web&ots=dhlefX61n-&sig=JLRsznNuxxiws12OeyYfgVHZSYY#PPP9,M1>[1] * <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browne_Willis>Browne Willis, Notitia Parliamentaria (London, 1750) <http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MgcwAAAAMAAJ&dq=browne+willis+notitia&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=iPcazHaD4I&sig=Z7CoB-41tiaeoxPnGGR4ZwYfLrc&hl=en&ei=sfIrSqvvEpTMjAelxfzqCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1>[2] ..................................................................................................................................................................................... However, I seem to recall that during the Civil War Arundell raised a sizable body of men "for the king" from his riding (being a descendant of the fellow mentioned above, we can see that these parliamentary seats, though gained through election really seemed to be inherited - no one voted them out of the position). If you've ever seen (or read) the Poldark series, I believe Arundell played a part in them too! I would imagine the name was used in your family because it was a Cornish tradition... everyone looked up to the Arundell's apparently. Hope this helps. Sher

    07/26/2012 08:06:33
    1. Re: [CORNISH] Meaning attached to name
    2. Pat Banks
    3. Col Would someone in the earlier family have worked on the Arundel estate or was perhaps in an army unit stationed there? Arundel Castle (which is in West Sussex, on the River Arun) was rebuilt in 1815 and again between 1875 and 1900. It is still the home of the Duke of Norfolk - premier Duke in England - and dates from the 11th century according to an article I googled. William the Conqueror wanted fortifications built around that area because it is the part of England nearest to France and he wanted to protect the area from any Saxon uprising! I haven't heard of a Cornish connection but there could be a family one. It's not a common name! Pat On 26/07/2012 2:19 PM, Col Paterson wrote: > G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from > Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is a male > child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. Arundel Castle > is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any > connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it would have > some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. > > What ideas can we come up with? > > Orlabest > > Col > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    07/26/2012 09:40:27