On 11/12/2013, Andrew Rodger <rodgera@audioio.com> wrote: > No, it is not a hoax, but it is not the man's surname either. It is Sorry Andrew, you may be right about the origin of the term, but that is irrelevant. Are people with surnames like PRINCE or LORD or STEWART or KING or BISHOP to be told that these are not surnames but inherited titles? You may be right about what his name and title in Turkey were before his baptism and marriage. However, in English law his name in England was what he was known as in the community: given name Mahmoud, surname Effendi as evidenced by what was recorded in the Parish Register of his baptism, by the name recorded in the Parish Register of his marriage and the name published three times in the Banns. Regards