Hi Elizabeth - I've heard that "The Travelers" was a term referring to gypsy lines, originating in the central Asian area, who didn't marry away from the group much; is that the group to which you've been assigned? I believe there have been "travelers" in Cornwall for quite a long time - and in the UK well before that. Does anyone know if there is any historical record of them in Cornwall? (I did a Google search, and found an interesting essay, but it had no specifics, unfortunately.) In January, the Cornish Council ran into a problem, as they had a form which asked people their ethnicity - These were the last part of the choices.....  British: African Black/Black British: African Black/any other Gypsy, Traveller, or Cornish.(Yes that's one category.)   So perhaps the Cornish government considers your DNA matches perfectly!!<g> What does it mean when your father's results showed "no match"? Might it be that since both the Cornish and the Nowegians were sea-faring folk, a little cross-culture exchange happened; but in that case, wouldn't it show in the results? And would the "no match" result if you changed to another company, or might the 2nd have a different set of references? Do the various companies share their data? It's a fascinating technology, but can one tell from the female line where one's mother's lines originated? Does it get specific to country, or is it more generalized grouping, such as "Northern European" or "Central Asia"? Lastly, can one learn of one's father's line if the DNA comes from a female, or does that come from only the male line? (I've been told my brother would need to have the test for our male line - my DNA wouldn't do.)  Cheers, and thanks for any information, Julia M. West Briton Transcriptions, 1836-1856 at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad St. Austell Area History and Genealogy at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell ---------------------------------------- (Snipped) > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:32:36 -0700 > From: ebmarcheschi@gmail.com > > Hi Everyone, > > I figured that, since my mother was clearly Cornish, based on a careful > paper trail, and since I am able to trace my maternal line to 1721 in Stoke > Climsland, I would have few surprises. Wrong! My maternal line is referred > to as "The Travelers" and is rather unique, meaning no matches. A very, > very old haplotype and rather rare now, but it was very common in > mesolithic times. Since then, well, there's me ... and then in the overall, > basic haplogroup, U5, there's the Cheddar Man. I'm sure there's more, they > just have yet to join the DNA testing party.

"The Travelers" refers to native British who had adopted the Romany Gypsy lifestyle, living and traveling from place to pace in "caravans". They were often mistaken for Romany Gypsys, whose language and customs are evidence of origin in the North of India. Some travelers clans had fairly regular routes, moving to take advantage of seasonal employment. They would have regular stopping and camping places. Their life is described in the old radio ballad, "Farewell to the 30-foot Trailer". Albert Jenkin hag Holwek an Gath > From: jwmos99@msn.com > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:34:18 -0600 > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] My DNA Experiences > > Hi Elizabeth - > > I've heard that "The Travelers" was a term referring to gypsy lines, originating in the central Asian area, who didn't marry away from the group much; is that the group to which you've been assigned? I believe there have been "travelers" in Cornwall for quite a long time - and in the UK well before that. Does anyone know if there is any historical record of them in Cornwall? (I did a Google search, and found an interesting essay, but it had no specifics, unfortunately.) > > > In January, the Cornish Council ran into a problem, as they had a form which asked people their ethnicity - These were the last part of the choices..... > British: African Black/Black > British: African Black/any other > Gypsy, Traveller, or Cornish.(Yes that's one category.) > > So perhaps the Cornish government considers your DNA matches perfectly!!<g> > > What does it mean when your father's results showed "no match"? Might it be that since both the Cornish and the Nowegians were sea-faring folk, a little cross-culture exchange happened; but in that case, wouldn't it show in the results? > > And would the "no match" result if you changed to another company, or might the 2nd have a different set of references? Do the various companies share their data? > > It's a fascinating technology, but can one tell from the female line where one's mother's lines originated? Does it get specific to country, or is it more generalized grouping, such as "Northern European" or "Central Asia"? > > Lastly, can one learn of one's father's line if the DNA comes from a female, or does that come from only the male line? (I've been told my brother would need to have the test for our male line - my DNA wouldn't do.) > > Cheers, and thanks for any information, > > > Julia M. > > West Briton Transcriptions, 1836-1856 at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad > St. Austell Area History and Genealogy at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell