Hi Brian: Here in the sunny (but cool in the mornings) Colorado, I am just elated to know that the flame will start in Cornwall and I may be mistaken, but I think it is because Cornwall is considered the very end tip of England. I was interested to know that Humphrey Davy lamps are used to carry the flame and so appropriate. I felt an affinity with your ancestor's comment, for I too was left much to myself as a child and made my own discoveries and sort of formed myself. Have a beautiful day in Australia, though you may be sleeping by now:-) Best wishes, Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Millett <bmillett@u030.aone.net.au> To: cornish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 19 May 2012 22:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Helston and the Olympic Flame Dear Listers, Even in sunny (but cool-in-the-mornings) Australia, the impact of the Olympic torch was here though I didn't know that the flame was to be landed in Cornwall, highly appropriate that it should be in Cornwall, where so many

Part 2 - sorry Penny, last answer got away from me too quickly. I forgot to add that the OPC database has the same death for Elizabeth MANNELL, buried in St Gluvias on February 16, 1895, age 57. Residence was the Union Workhouse, Budock. Joanne Toronto, Canada Hi Penny, FreeBMD has the death of a 57 year old Elizabeth MANNEL registered in the March quarter of 1895, registration district of Falmouth, Vol.5c page 138. Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny Gordon" <penny@gordonfamilyhistory.com.au> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:58 AM Subject: [CORNISH] Elizabeth MANNELL 1838 - ? > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on my elusive 3rd Gt Aunt, > Elizabeth Mannell. I have not been able to establish her date of death. > The following is what I have for her: > > > > . I believe that she is the "Female" Mannell whose birth was > registered Jan - Mar 1838 at Falmouth (certificate to be ordered to > confirm > this, however her sisters Emily and Jessie were also registered at > Falmouth); > > . Baptised 16 April 1838 at Mylor, the daughter of Joseph Mannell > and Ann Mannell (nee Rowe); > > . 1841 Census Mylor with parents and siblings Francis (my Gt Gt > Grandfather), Mary, Louisa, John, Emily Ann and Jessie; > > . 1851 Census Mylor with parents and siblings Francis, Louisa, > Emily, Jessie, Joseph Cade, Jervis and Benjamin, and cousin Mary Nicholls; > > . 1861 Census Mylor with parents and siblings Joseph Cade, John > Jervis and Benjamin; > > . 1871 Census Mylor with mother and brother John Jervis; > > . 1891 Census Penryn living on her own (as Elizabeth Mannel), > Charwoman. > > > > I have been able to find marriages and deaths of her siblings, but I have > not been able to find anything else for Elizabeth after the 1891 Census. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions for where I should look next, it would be > very > much appreciated, as I would like to "close off" this family branch. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Penny Gordon > > Banks ACT Australia > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Penny, FreeBMD has the death of a 57 year old Elizabeth MANNEL registered in the March quarter of 1895, registration district of Falmouth, Vol.5c page 138. Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny Gordon" <penny@gordonfamilyhistory.com.au> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:58 AM Subject: [CORNISH] Elizabeth MANNELL 1838 - ? > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on my elusive 3rd Gt Aunt, > Elizabeth Mannell. I have not been able to establish her date of death. > The following is what I have for her: > > > > . I believe that she is the "Female" Mannell whose birth was > registered Jan - Mar 1838 at Falmouth (certificate to be ordered to > confirm > this, however her sisters Emily and Jessie were also registered at > Falmouth); > > . Baptised 16 April 1838 at Mylor, the daughter of Joseph Mannell > and Ann Mannell (nee Rowe); > > . 1841 Census Mylor with parents and siblings Francis (my Gt Gt > Grandfather), Mary, Louisa, John, Emily Ann and Jessie; > > . 1851 Census Mylor with parents and siblings Francis, Louisa, > Emily, Jessie, Joseph Cade, Jervis and Benjamin, and cousin Mary Nicholls; > > . 1861 Census Mylor with parents and siblings Joseph Cade, John > Jervis and Benjamin; > > . 1871 Census Mylor with mother and brother John Jervis; > > . 1891 Census Penryn living on her own (as Elizabeth Mannel), > Charwoman. > > > > I have been able to find marriages and deaths of her siblings, but I have > not been able to find anything else for Elizabeth after the 1891 Census. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions for where I should look next, it would be > very > much appreciated, as I would like to "close off" this family branch. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Penny Gordon > > Banks ACT Australia > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jan, Quite early on there was a sizable influx of Germans into Cornwall. They were for the most part involved in mine engineering. However this doesn't mean your RICKARDs were German, just a possibility. Jim On 5/19/2012 4:04 PM, Jan Davis wrote: > Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - > (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) > I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. > I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German heritage. > Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything in Cornish? > Thanks for your input! > Jan RICKARD Davis > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is a crease right through the BMDs., so some of the entries are not clear. West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 11th April, 1856. BIRTHS. At Alma, near Truro, on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. HENRY WILLIAMS, a daughter. At Falmouth, on the 2nd instant, the wife of Mr. CHAPMAN, a son; on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. W. THOMAS, a daughter; and the wife of Mr. T. MATTHEW, a daughter; on the 3rd instant, the wife of Mr. I. THOMAS, a son; and on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. LANGRIDGE, a son. At Helston, on the 2nd instant, the wife of Mr. ISAAC VERRELL, a son. At Pembo, Mawgan in Meneage, on the 28th ult., the wife of Mr. HENRY JAMES SECCOMB, a son. At Penzance, recently, the wife of Mr. E. DAVY a daughter; and on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. GEORGE READ, a daughter. At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. THOMAS MARTIN, a daughter; the wife of Capt. WILLIAM VEAL, of the schooner “Freeman,” a son; the wife of Mr. JOHN TRACHAN, a daughter; the wife of Mr. ANDREW STEVENS, a daughter; the wife of the Rev. ROBERT HAWORTH, Wesleyan Minister, a son; and the wife of Mr. RICHARD WILLIAMS, a son. At Penderleath, in the parish of Towednack, the wife of Mr. RICHARD MICHELL, a son. At Redruth, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM PETERS, a son, and the wife of Mr. MARTIN THOMAS, a son. At Creegbraws, near Chacewater, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. HEZEKIAH MARTIN, a daughter. At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. JAMES MARTIN, a daughter. At Hugus, in the parish of Kea, on the 31st ult., the wife of Mr. CHARLES GILES, a son. At Peterville, in the parish of St. Agnes, last week, the wife of Capt. ARTHUR GRIPE, a daughter. At Eden Cottage, Ladock, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM JULIFF, jun., a daughter. At Mevagissey, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. THOMAS LELEAN, a son; and on the 28th, the wife of Captain KENDALL, a daughter. At Monagwins, in the parish of St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. JOHN TRELEAVEN, a daughter. At Lostwithiel, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. CHARLES FISH, miner, of three children, who with their mother are doing well. At Bodmin, the wife of the Rev. Mr. SIMPSON, Wesleyan Minister, a daughter; and the wife of Mr. TOLEMAN, steward at the Lunatic Asylum, a daughter. At Liskeard, on the 30th ult., the wife of Mr. WYATT, twins. At Trevecca Cottages, near Liskeard, on the 30th ult., the wife of Mr. JAMES TRACK [?], twins. At Torpoint, on Saturday last, the wife of J. G. RICKCORD, Esq., R.N., H.M.S. “Impregnable,” a son. At Plymouth, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. S. PEARSE, a son. At Mount Radford, Exeter, on the 3rd instant, the wife of Mr. JOSEPH JOHN DYMOND, a daughter. At Cannon Cottage, Southampton, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GEORGE UGLOW, a daughter. At the West of England Hotel, 60 Broad Quay, Bristol, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. THOMAS CLYMA, a daughter. At the Llanfyrnach Silver Lead Mines, Pembrokeshire, South Wales, on Sunday last, the wife of Captain JOHN TYACK, late of Camborne, in this county, a son. At Hobart Town, Van Diemen’s Land, on the 7th of December last, the wife of the Rev. JOHN COPE, Wesleyan Minister, a daughter. MARRIAGES. At Kenwyn, on the 1st instant, Mr. NICHOLAS TRUDGEN, of the Royal Standard Inn, Truro, to Miss ELIZABETH OLFORD. At Falmouth, Mr. RICHARD DINNIS, to ELIZA ANNE, eldest daughter of Mr. ARTHUR CHARD. At the Registrar’s Office, Falmouth, on the 29th ult., Mr. JOHN LANE to Miss CATHERINE COLLINS, both of Budock. At Breage, on Saturday last, Mr. SAMUEL RICHARDS to Miss MARGARET ARTHUR, both of that parish. At St. Erth on Sunday last, Mr. JOSEPH LOBB, engineer, to Miss SARAH TREZIZE [?]. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Copperhouse, on the 3rd inst., Mr. WM. DUNSTAN, of Tuckingmill, to Miss PRISCILLA BAWDEN, both of that place; and on Sunday last, Mr. THOMAS WEBBER, of Camborne, to Miss M. A. MAYNE, both of that place. At Redruth, on Tuesday last, Mr. JAMES TRESEDER, confectioner, of Truro, to Miss CRANG, of the former place. At Mevagissey, on Wednesday last, Mr. SIMON RICH to Mrs. SOPHIA RUNDLE. At Camelford, on the 25th ult., Mr. JOHN TUCKER, of Camelford, TO Miss JENKIN, of Delabole. At Advent, on Tuesday last, Mr. THOMAS PROUT to Miss CATHERINE GOLSWORTHY, both of that parish. At Northhill, on Tuesday last, the Rev. JOHN MARTIN, second son of JOHN L. MARTIN, Esq., of Croft Lodge, Cambridge, to SOPHIA JANE, youngest daughter of the late Rev. Dr. RODD, of Trebartha Hall, and formerly rector of St. Just in Roseland, in this county. At St. Stephens Church, Launceston, on Tuesday last, Mr. JOHN BURT, to ELLEN, youngest daughter of Mr. MARTIN, of the same place. At the Independent Chapel, Launceston, on Tuesday last, Mr. THOMAS CHALLIS, to ELIZABETH, daughter of Mr. RICHARD LENN. At Lifton, on the 3rd instant, W. R. A. H. ARUNDELL, Esq., to Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the Rev. HENRY TOWNEND, rector of Lifton. At St. Andrew’s Church, Wells Street, London, on the 2nd instant, HUGH SEYMOUR TREMENHEERE, Esq., of Tremenheere, in this county, eldest son of the late General Tremenheere, K.H., to LUCY, widow of the late Vicesimus KNOX, Esq., bencher of the Inner Temple, and Recorder of Saffron Walden, and third daughter of the late RALPH BERNAL, Esq., of Eaton Square. At St. Mary’s, Bryanston Square, London, on the 3rd instant, Sir WILLIAM CARPENTER ROWE, Chief Justice of Ceylon, to FRANCES ELIZABETH, youngest daughter of JAMES HAMILTON STORY, Esq., of Bryanstone Square and Lockington, county of Cavan. At Swansea, on Saturday last, Capt. WILLIAM YOUNG, of the brig “Tally Ho,” of Shoreham, to ELIZABETH ANN, youngest daughter of Capt. FRANCIS EVANS, of Badnick Consols Mine, in this county. At Dublin, on Friday last, Mr. THOMAS TAUNTON CLARKE, of Bodmin, in this county, to FRANCES, youngest daughter of MATTHEW FRANKLIN, Esq., of 12 Usher’s Island, Dublin. DEATHS. At Truro, on the 3rd instant, Mr. JOHN MILLS, Hacksmith, aged 35 years. At Ponsanooth, on the 3rd instant, Mrs. FRANCES GREY, aged 96 years; and on Monday last, Mr. BENJAMIN WELSH, aged 80 years. At Falmouth, on the 1st instant, Mrs. BAWDEN, widow of Mr. Bawden, master in the Packet Service, aged 82 years. At Falmouth, on Friday last, SAMUEL, infant son of Mr. JOHN DOWNING, jun. At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mr. MILLREN [?], for many years in H.M. Packet Service, aged 63 years. At Falmouth, on Friday last, Mr. CHARLES ROBERT HOBLYN, formerly in the Royal Navy, and eldest son of the Rev. E. HOBLYN, of Mylor, aged 43 years. At Flushing, on Friday last, JESSIE PHILIPPA, daughter of the late Capt. JAMES WEBB CURTIS, of Flushing, aged 7 years. At Penzance, on Monday last, JOHN LUKE, Esq., aged 71 years. At Newlyn west, on Monday last, the wife of Captain DAVIES, of the “President,” of Scilly, aged 33 years. At Trevedran, in the parish of St. Buryan, on Friday last, the infant daughter of Mr. JAMES PENROSE. At St. Ives, the daughter of Mr. GEORGE CARE, aged 7 years; and the infant son of Mr. THOMAS HOLLOW. At St. Erth, Mr. CHARLES TREZIZE, aged 73 years; and Mrs. SARAH JOHNS, daughter of the above, aged 48 years. At Bodriggy House, in the parish of Phillack, on Friday last, SUSAN ANN, wife of the Rev. FREDERICK HOCKIN, aged 24 years. At Phillack, on Saturday last, Mrs. ANN BARBARY, aged 29 years. At Gwinear, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. THOMAS SIMONS, aged 30 years; and GEORGE TAYLOR, son of Mr. THOMAS MITCHELL, aged 1 years; and on Sunday, ELIZABETH, daughter of Mr. ROBERT ROSKILLY, aged 4 years. At Camborne, on Saturday last, Mr. JOHN GUNDRY, aged 60 years; and the infant child of Mr. WM. NICHOLLS. At Baripper, near Camborne, on Saturday last, EDWARD, son of Mr. WILLIAM ANGOVE, aged 6 years. At Redruth, on Tuesday last, ELIZABETH, relict of the late Mr. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, aged 71 years. At Sunny Corner, in the parish of Gwennap, on the 2nd instant, MARY ANN, wife of Mr. W. ROBERTS, aged 31 years. At St. Day, on Saturday last, Mrs. JANE RICHARDS, aged 101 years. At Wheal Rose, near Scorrier, on Sunday last, WILLIAM, son of Mrs. PEGGY CIVELL [?], aged 81 years. At Newquay, on Monday last, Mrs. DOROTHY HOCKIN, aged 80 years. At Trevilley, in the parish of St. Columb Minor, on Sunday last, Mr. JOSEPH GREENLADE, aged 81 years. At Gorran, on Sunday last, Mr. VALENTINE POMEROY, aged 77 years. At Mevagissey on the 30th ult., Mrs. JANE WILLIAMS, aged 66 years; on the 31st, Mr. CALEB LORD, aged 35 years; and on Monday last, Mrs. NANCY KENT, aged 74 years. At St. Ewe, on the 3rd instant, Mrs. JANE VIVIAN, aged 54 years. At Menagwas, in the parish of St. Austell, JOSEPH GROSE, eldest son of Mr. JOHN TRELEAVEN, aged 6 years. At St. Blazey, lately, Mary, wife of Mr. EDWARD MERRIFIELD, sen., formerly of the Cornish Arms Inn, aged 75 years. At Fowey, on the 3rd instant, Mr. REUBEN LAKEMAN, aged 55 years. At Tywardreath, on the 1st instant, Mrs. ELIZABETH HUSBAND, aged 79 years. At Bodmin, on Wednesday last, at the residence of her father Mr. RICHARD VERCOE, MARY ANN, wife of Mr. WM. HARRIS, of Linden, Iowa county, Wisconsin, North America. At Bodmin [?], on the 28th ult., the wife of Capt. KEY; and Mr. RICHARD WOOLCOCK. At Tregoodwell, near Camelford, on the 2nd instant, MARGEY, relict of Mr. THOMAS ARNELL, aged 81 years. At Liskeard, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM POWEL [?]; and the wife of Mr. JOSEPH HAINE. At Exeter, on the 1st instant, Mr. WM. CLARKE, piano fort maker, aged 64 years. In London, on the 28th ult., Miss ELIZABETH CANN, formerly of Kilkhampton, aged 80 years. On the 31st ult., LUCY JANE, only surviving daughter of CHARLES BOWRING, Esq., of Larkbeare, Exeter, aged 53 years. On the 3rd instant, the Right Hon. GEORGE ROBERT DAWSON [?], of Moyola Park, Castle Dawson, Ireland, and Upper Grosvenor Street, London, Deputy Chairman of the Board of Customs, aged 65 years. At Swansea, on the 23rd ult., SAMUEL, son of Mrs. MARTIN, of the Pelican, Morriston, aged 16 years. At Swansea, on the 28th ult., MARGARET, wife of J. CLARKE RICHARDSON, Esq. At Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope, on the 31st of January last, Mr. JOHN HARVEY, late of London, and fourth son of the late Mr. SAMUEL HARVEY, of Chacewater, in this county, aged 38 years. At Moonflat, Forest Creek, Australia, in November last, JOSEPH, fourth son of the late Mr. JAMES TYACK, of Chacewater, in this county, aged 37 years.

I understood that it is a variant of Richard.  So both of you are right, it is probably a variant of Richard in Germany too. Joy ________________________________ From: Jan Davis <jandavis3@cox.net> To: cornish@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2012, 21:04 Subject: [CORNISH] RICKARD name origin? Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German heritage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything in Cornish? Thanks for your input! Jan RICKARD Davis ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary From New Zealand Yes I had the Glenda Rowe email also ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:48 AM Subject: [CORNISH] Weird emails > Hullo everyone > > Tonight I received two messages from a Glenda Rowe which look sus. to > me. I have also been receiving emails about tracing records, apparently > of police offenders. They are coming through one of the Cornish lists - > has anyone else had this problem? I delete everything but must say I > don't like the trend. > > Cheers > > Pat > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was told that my Jenkyn/Jenkin/Jenking folks originated in Flanders. That's getting closer to Germany. Jan Mackey in beautiful Garden Grove, California Sent from my iPad On May 19, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Sher Leetooze <sherleetooze@interlinks.net> wrote: > Jan: > We have RICKARDs here at Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. My RICKARD family > history book is at my Dad's, but I am over there tomorrow and I'll look up > where this branch of the family came from. There was a fellow here in > Bowmanville a few years ago who insisted that his Jenkin family came from > Germany. I tried to tell him that Jenkin was Cornish and his home parish > was likely St. German's - but he'd not hear of it! Stubborn old @#$%^& > !! Said a "real" genealogist ( a paid person) found that out for > him!! I'll be in touch tomorrow. > Sher > > > At 01:04 PM 19/05/2012 -0700, you wrote: >> Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - >> (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) >> I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know >> it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that >> name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish >> descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw >> lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. >> I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who >> insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found >> several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan >> areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German >> heritage. >> Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything >> in Cornish? >> Thanks for your input! >> Jan RICKARD Davis >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >> MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >> 18:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Various Listers have reacted to what appeared to be very suspicious e- mails, and some have expressed surprise at the existence of such things on a Rootsweb List. Such events are a natural and inevitable result of being on a mailing list, and we must, as the Scots say, "just thole it". Such incidents only take one subscriber to join the List who with the express purpose of distributing spam, malicious or otherwise, and the only way to stop it is to have such strict conditions for joining the List that its purpose would be defeated. So hitting the delete button is the only remedy, and reporting incidents of the practice only further inflates the volume of traffic on the List, to everyone's disadvantage. Perhaps a direct e-mail to the List-owner would secure the offender's ejection from the List, but that will hardly deter the offender who only needs to rejoin under a different name. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com

Jan: We have RICKARDs here at Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. My RICKARD family history book is at my Dad's, but I am over there tomorrow and I'll look up where this branch of the family came from. There was a fellow here in Bowmanville a few years ago who insisted that his Jenkin family came from Germany. I tried to tell him that Jenkin was Cornish and his home parish was likely St. German's - but he'd not hear of it! Stubborn old @#$%^& !! Said a "real" genealogist ( a paid person) found that out for him!! I'll be in touch tomorrow. Sher At 01:04 PM 19/05/2012 -0700, you wrote: >Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - >(So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) >I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know >it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that >name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish >descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw >lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. >I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who >insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found >several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan >areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German >heritage. >Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything >in Cornish? >Thanks for your input! >Jan RICKARD Davis >------------------------------- >Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > >Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >18:34:00

Interesting!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Quayle" <celtickitty@sbcglobal.net> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH] RICKARD name origin? Jan - According to http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Rickard : "Recorded in the spellings of Rickard and Rickards, this is an Anglo-Scottish surname, but of Germanic origins. It derives from the famous pre 7th century personal name "Richard", meaning "powerful ruler", from the elements "ric", meaning power, and "hard", brave and strong. " Kitty, in sunny Placerville --- On Sat, 5/19/12, Jan Davis <jandavis3@cox.net> wrote: From: Jan Davis <jandavis3@cox.net> Subject: [CORNISH] RICKARD name origin? To: cornish@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, May 19, 2012, 1:04 PM Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German heritage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything in Cornish? Thanks for your input! Jan RICKARD Davis ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for looking them up. I have heard rumors that my great grandfather, James RICKARD stopped off somewhere in the midwest before he came to California, sometime between 1871 and 1880. Maybe he left a wife and some children behind??? Who knows... Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sher Leetooze" <sherleetooze@interlinks.net> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH] RICKARD name origin? > Jan: > We have RICKARDs here at Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. My RICKARD family > history book is at my Dad's, but I am over there tomorrow and I'll look up > where this branch of the family came from. There was a fellow here in > Bowmanville a few years ago who insisted that his Jenkin family came from > Germany. I tried to tell him that Jenkin was Cornish and his home parish > was likely St. German's - but he'd not hear of it! Stubborn old @#$%^& > !! Said a "real" genealogist ( a paid person) found that out for > him!! I'll be in touch tomorrow. > Sher > > > At 01:04 PM 19/05/2012 -0700, you wrote: >>Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - >>(So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) >>I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know >>it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that >>name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish >>descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw >>lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. >>I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who >>insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found >>several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan >>areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German >>heritage. >>Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything >>in Cornish? >>Thanks for your input! >>Jan RICKARD Davis >>------------------------------- >>Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >>MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >>Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to >>CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >>18:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Jan -  According to http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Rickard : "Recorded in the spellings of Rickard and Rickards, this is an Anglo-Scottish surname, but of Germanic origins. It derives from the famous pre 7th century personal name "Richard", meaning "powerful ruler", from the elements "ric", meaning power, and "hard", brave and strong. " Kitty, in sunny Placerville   --- On Sat, 5/19/12, Jan Davis <jandavis3@cox.net> wrote: From: Jan Davis <jandavis3@cox.net> Subject: [CORNISH] RICKARD name origin? To: cornish@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, May 19, 2012, 1:04 PM Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German heritage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything in Cornish? Thanks for your input! Jan RICKARD Davis ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oops!! Is right, although I didn't pick that up.... ....it's been an amazing day here in Cornwall...we were up at 7am to watch the flame arrive at Lands End by a RNAS Culdrose search and rescue helicopter, then a couple of hours later we walked to the end of our road to see the torchbearer finish the first stint at Penzance/ Madron road just past the cemetery, before going by road to Marazion and the nest team of bearers. It was quite an emotional occasion...which to be honest I wasn't expecting.....but for Cornwall to be at the forefront of such a huge occasion and making history was wonderful..... ...It was also great to see one of Cornwall greatest contributed to the occasion...Sir Humphrey Davys miners lamps were used to carry the flame in safety. Hope Listmom, will forgive this off topic message. I also hope you will all be able to see a little bit of our wonderful county on your news programmes. Best wishes to All. Jane In Penzance and very proud to be Cornish -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Davis Sent: 19 May 2012 02:00 To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH] Helston and the Olympic Flame I saw on the TV news tonight that David Beckham lit the Olympic flame in "Helston, England". Don't they mean "Helston, Cornwall, U.K."? Oops!!! Jan in San Diego California ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sat, 19 May 2012 02:13:21 PM Dot Hosking Huntley wrote: > If the middle name of the second son is MELROSE would that indicate the > wife’s mother’s maiden name? > It can indicate a famkly name or can sometimes indicate a benefactor or employer's family name. I have a couple of examples of either explanation. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther, St Breock & Egloshayle, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Hi Pat Yes I am on the list still...always watching, but not a lot of time to join in at the moment. All the best Jane -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks Sent: 19 May 2012 01:32 To: cornish@rootsweb.com; "cornish-gen@rootsweb.com"@tpgi.com.au Subject: [CORNISH] Hacker Good morning everyone This morning i received an email from a distant relative in Cornwall to say that she had received Glenda's email of apology and also my initial complaint.. I'm not sure if Jane Rodda is on the List or not as we mainly correspond through Facebook or direct email. Glad to hear it is being looked into. Pity these smart people don't use their expertise in more useful ways. Cheers Pat ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have a look at http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Resc/naming_patterns.php but there don't appear to be any rigid rules -in my family I have seen the grandmother's maiden name as well as godparents. Mike -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dot Hosking Huntley Sent: 19 May 2012 05:13 To: Cornish List Subject: [CORNISH] naming patterns If the middle name of the second son is MELROSE would that indicate the wife’s mother’s maiden name? Trying to figure out where MELROSE came from! Dot Hosking Huntley in SW Oregon

Good afternoon Listers, from beautiful sunny San Diego - (So why am I sitting inside at my computer???) I would like to know the origination of my family name RICKARD. I know it's VERY Cornish, as I never knew anybody ourside our family with that name while growing up here in California unless they were of Cornish descent and a relative. When I was in Cornwall in 2002 and 2004, I saw lots of RICKARDs listed here and there. I had a heated discussion recently with a lady with German background who insisted hotly that RICKARD is a German name. I think not. I have found several generations of my family documented in the Camborne and Illogan areas of Cornwall with no German first names or any indication of a German heritage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Does the word RICKARD mean anything in Cornish? Thanks for your input! Jan RICKARD Davis

More than likely!!! It would be a family name for sure. I have several examples in my family. Pat On 19/05/2012 12:13 PM, Dot Hosking Huntley wrote: > If the middle name of the second son is MELROSE would that indicate the wife’s mother’s maiden name? > > Trying to figure out where MELROSE came from! > > Dot Hosking Huntley > in SW Oregon > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't consider your message to be off-topic at all! Thanks for letting us know your experience. Jan in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Rodda" <jane.rodda@sky.com> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Helston and the Olympic Flame > Oops!! Is right, although I didn't pick that up.... > > ....it's been an amazing day here in Cornwall...we were up at 7am to watch > the flame arrive at Lands End by a RNAS Culdrose search and rescue > helicopter, then a couple of hours later we walked to the end of our road > to > see the torchbearer finish the first stint at Penzance/ Madron road just > past the cemetery, before going by road to Marazion and the nest team of > bearers. > > It was quite an emotional occasion...which to be honest I wasn't > expecting.....but for Cornwall to be at the forefront of such a huge > occasion and making history was wonderful..... > > ...It was also great to see one of Cornwall greatest contributed to the > occasion...Sir Humphrey Davys miners lamps were used to carry the flame in > safety. > > Hope Listmom, will forgive this off topic message. I also hope you will > all > be able to see a little bit of our wonderful county on your news > programmes. > > Best wishes to All. > Jane > > In Penzance and very proud to be Cornish > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Jan Davis > Sent: 19 May 2012 02:00 > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CORNISH] Helston and the Olympic Flame > > I saw on the TV news tonight that David Beckham lit the Olympic flame in > "Helston, England". Don't they mean "Helston, Cornwall, U.K."? Oops!!! > Jan in San Diego California > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message