Apologies all. This posting of BMDs should have been 16th May, 1856, not 1854. - Sorry.

Hi Everyone, Sorry for not thanking you all earlier but I've been at a Family History Fair all weekend trying to spread the word! I appreciate all the people who wrote to the two lists, you have convinced me that Jayne had Cornish ancestry! Cheers Julie Originally from Camborne, Cornwall Now in NSW, Australia OPC for Redruth President : Southern Sons of Cornwall http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz

This is Vera Jayne Palmer's Great-grandfather. Her Grandfather was Elmer b. PA. 1870 census - Bushkill, Northampton, Pa Thomas Palmer, 41, slater, b. England John, 12, b. PA Thomas, 8 Richard, 5 Elmer, 3 William, 1 Mary A., 37, b. England Mary Ann, 16, domestic servant 1880 census - Pen Argyl, Northampton, Pa Thomas Palmer, 50, b. England, parents b. England, slater wife Mary J., 44 son John, 21 son Thomas, 17 son Digory, 14 son Clifert, 6 son Asher, 5 son Abner, 1 son William, 9 1890 reconstructed census for Pen Argyl Palmer, Thomas 58, gentleman--Elmer 22, slater. Sherri Bangor, PA On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:06 AM, RAY WORDEN <rayworden@btinternet.com>wrote: > > > > I have sussed out quite a bit of info about Jayne's Cowling family > connection with Cornwall and would now like to turn my attention to the > Palmer side of the family from Cornwall. > Am I right in thinking that Jayne's Great Grandfather was Henry Palmer > (illegitimate son of Jane Palmer) from St Teath? I am asking because the > only Pa. census I am able to view has him married to Melissa and shows his > place of birth to be New York City. I am hoping this birthplace is a red > herring. > Thanks > Ray in Delabole > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:05:56 +1000 > From: "Julie and Graeme" <jngwheeler@bigpond.com> > Subject: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Cc: cornish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000f01cd4cf6$ebe6f520$c3b4df60$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Everyone, > Sorry for not thanking you all earlier but I've been at a Family History > Fair all weekend trying to spread the word! I appreciate all the people who > wrote to the two lists, you have convinced me that Jayne had Cornish > ancestry! > > Cheers > Julie > Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > Now in NSW, Australia > OPC for Redruth > President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > > > Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.comwith the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have sussed out quite a bit of info about Jayne's Cowling family connection with Cornwall and would now like to turn my attention to the Palmer side of the family from Cornwall. Am I right in thinking that Jayne's Great Grandfather was Henry Palmer (illegitimate son of Jane Palmer) from St Teath? I am asking because the only Pa. census I am able to view has him married to Melissa and shows his place of birth to be New York City. I am hoping this birthplace is a red herring. Thanks Ray in Delabole Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:05:56 +1000 From: "Julie and Graeme" <jngwheeler@bigpond.com> Subject: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Cc: cornish@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000f01cd4cf6$ebe6f520$c3b4df60$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Hi Everyone, Sorry for not thanking you all earlier but I've been at a Family History Fair all weekend trying to spread the word! I appreciate all the people who wrote to the two lists, you have convinced me that Jayne had Cornish ancestry! Cheers Julie Originally from Camborne, Cornwall Now in NSW, Australia OPC for Redruth President : Southern Sons of Cornwall http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz

Diane - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. A very busy week, including a surprise 65th birthday party and weekend with my NYC kids here in town. Thanks for sending that link! I am hoping to have time this week to go through it. I LOVE the designs and am very interested in what they mean. Hope all is well with you!! Can you believe it has been 5 years since I was back there and met you? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Tamulion" <d.tamulion@att.net> To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Celtic symbols > Hi Jan, > I don't know any meanings of Celtic Symbols, but I did google it > and found this web site. > www.whats-your-sign.com/celtic-symbol-meanings.html I hope that this > might help you. > Diane in Wisconsin > > > On 6/14/2012 9:09 AM, Jan Davis wrote: >> I am interested in Celtic symbols. I have a couple of necklaces and >> earring sets with them as the designs but I don't know what they >> represent. Does somebody know a good reference book or online source that >> explains what the different designs signify? >> Jan in California >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, >> MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to >> CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: isabelj@talktalk.net To: cornish@rootsweb.com CC: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:53 Subject: Weekly Newspaper 16th May, 1854. BMDs. West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 16th May, 1854.    BIRTHS  At Truro, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. C. J. PROUT, a son.    At Penryn, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. JOHN FURNEAUX, a son, since dead.    At Grove Hill Cottage, Falmouth, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. J. E. DOWNING, merchant, a daughter.    At St. Mawes, on the 5th instant, the wife of Mr. F. ANDREW, a daughter.    At Nanshuthall, in the parish of St. Just in Roseland, on the 2nd instant, the wife of Mr. JOHN MICHELL, a daughter.    At Marazion, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. J. J. PHILLIPS, a son.    At Henvor Farm, near Marazion, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. JOHN JACKA, jun., a daughter.    At Bosiggran, in the parish of Zennor, the wife of Mr. JOHN EDDY, a daughter.    At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM BARBER, a son; the wife of Capt. WILLIAM SAMPSON, jun., a son; and the wife of Capt. THOMAS T. SHORT, a son.    At Halsetown, the wife of Mr. JAMES MARTIN, a son.    At Chacewater, on the 6th instant, the wife of Mr. LANYON, a son; and on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. PAINTER, a son.    At Twelveheads, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. DUNSTONE, a daughter; and the wife of Mr. CARNE, master of the National Schools, Baldhu, a daughter.    At Seveock Wood, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. MANUELL, a son.    At Blackwater, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. TRELEASE, a son.    At Newquay, on the 6th instant, the wife of Mr. JOHN ENNOR, a daughter; and on the 7th, the wife of Mr. ISAAC PAPPIN, a daughter.    At Pencoose, in the parish of Creed, on the 5th instant, the wife of Mr. SAMUEL HEARLE, of Trengrouse, in the parish of Veryan, a daughter.    At Sticker, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. JOHN KEAST, of twins.    At St. Austell, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. JACOBS, of a still-born daughter; and on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HERN [?], of a still-born daughter.    At Roche, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. JAMES HOOPER, a son.    At Skisdon Lodge, near Wadebridge, on the 17th ult., Lady ONSLOW, a daughter.    At Court Barton, in the parish of Lanreath, on the 30th ult., the wife of Mr. EDMUND BRYANT, a daughter.    At Launceston, on the 7th instant, the wife of WILLIAM DAY HANSON, Esq., a son.    At Tor House, Torpoint, on Friday last, the wife of Capt. HENRY S. HILLYAR, R.C., C.B., a son.    At Islington, London, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM ANGWIN, tea dealer, late of Penzance, a daughter.    At Swansea, on the 8th instant, the wife of Mr. EDWARD PLAYER, of the Hafod Copper Works, a son.    At Heaton Norris, near Manchester, on the 5th instant, the wife of Mr. JOSHUA PENDLEBURY, corn dealer, a daughter.    At the Bruce Mines, North America, on the 6th inst., the wife of Mr. JOHN TREVILLION, a son.    MARRIAGES  At Kenwyn, on the 8th instant, Mr. WILLIAM BOWDEN to Miss CECILIA WILLIAMS.    At Mylor, on the 3rd instant, Mr. WILLIAM GEORGE ROGERS, to Miss ANN FROST, both of that parish.    At Falmouth, on Sunday last, Mr. K. ROUSE to Miss SARAH RICHARDS; and on Tuesday, Mr. W. BRICE, mail guard, Holyhead, to EMMA, only daughter of Captain HOWELL, both of Falmouth.    At St. Martin, near Helston, on Tuesday last, Mr. JOSEPH H. JOHNS, of Helston, to ELIZABETH ANN, daughter of Mr. DUNSTAN, of the former parish.    At the Registrar's Office, Penzance, on Tuesday last, Mr. JOHN MOORSHEAD to Miss GRACE HARRY, both of Uny Lelant.    At Madron, on Sunday last, Mr. WILLIAM HENRY PELLEW, to MARY, daughter of Mr. SIMON JORY, both of Penzance.    At Gulval, on Saturday last, Mr. EDWARD TREGONING to ELIZABETH JANE, youngest daughter of Mr. CARNE.    At St. Ives, Mr. THOMAS TREVORROW to Miss RENODEN and Mr. THOMAS CARE to Miss CATHERINE TREVORROW.    At St. Austell, on Wednesday last, GEORGE PETHERICK, Esq., Manager of the Devon and Cornwall Bank, St. Austell, to EMILY, only daughter of FRANCIS BARRATT, Esq., of Elm Terrace.    At St. Sampson's on the 8th instant, Mr. ELISHA HOCKEN, of St. Blazey, to Miss ANNE BROAD; Mr. CHARLES GILES, of St. Blazey, to Miss MARGARET BROAD; and Mr. WILLIAM BEARD, of Plymouth, to Miss RACHEL REBECCA BROAD, all daughters of Mr. WILLIAM BROAD of Golant.    At St. Mabyn, on Wednesday last, Mr. THOMAS VIVIAN, jun., of the firm of Vivian and Son, merchants, Plymouth, to AMELIA HICKS, eldest daughter of THOMAS SOBEY, Esq., Rooke, near Wadebridge.    At Bodmin, on the 6th instant, Mr. JOHN PETHYBRIDGE, of the East Cornwall Bank, to SUSAN, only daughter of Mr. HENRY MUDGE.    At the Registrar's Office, Liskeard, Mr. JOSEPH MITCHELL of Callington, to Miss ELIZABETH POAD, of St. Dominick.    At Padstow, on Friday last, Mr. JAMES BENNETTO, of Roche, to Miss C. COLEMAN, of Padstow.    At Stoke Damerel, on the 1st instant, Mr. JAMES BALL, of Bicton Mill, St. Ive, to Miss ELIZABETH ROSEVEARE, eldest daughter of Mr. ROSEVEARE, of Trevigro, Southhill.    At Stonehouse, on the 8th instant, RICHARD COTGRAVE, Esq., of Stourscombe House, in this county, to ELIZA, eldest daughter of the late Major TUDOR.    At St. George's Church, London, on the 8th instant, by the Rev. BRYAN KING, RICHARD DOLBY, son of the late Mr. RICHARD DOLBY MICHELL, of Roseland, in this county, to LUCY, youngest daughter of JOHN RANSOM, Esq., of St. George's East, London.  In London, on Sunday last, Mr. THOMAS COCK, of Truro, to Miss ELIZA HARDY, of London.    DEATHS  At Prince's Street, Truro, on Tuesday last, suddenly, Mrs. HUDDY, widow of the late Mr. J. S. HUDDY, aged 70 years.    At Truro, on the 5th instant, JAMES, eldest son of Mr. HOWE, boot and shoe-maker, aged 27 years; on Saturday last, Mrs. A. M. VINTON, aged 61 years; and on Wednesday, Mr. JAMES WICKS, aged 38 years.    At Tresillian Bridge, near Truro, on Tuesday last, Mr. CHARLES DAVIS, merchant, aged 54 years.    At Tremodale Cottage, Penryn, on Monday last, Capt. LESLIE BOULDERSON, R.N., aged 75 years.    At Falmouth, on the 7th instant, ELLEN, daughter of Mr. RICHARD BRIMACOMBE, painter, aged 1 year; and on the 8th, CHARLES SAMUEL, son of the late Mr. CHARLES TELLER, merchant, of the West Indies, aged 9 years.    At Falmouth, on Monday last, ALICE MAUDE, only child of Mr. PRIOR, draper, aged 1 year.  At Penzance, on the 7th instant, Mr. WILLIAM CLARKE, aged 47 years.    At Marazion, on Monday last, Mrs. ELIZABETH BLEWETT, aged 72 years.    At Lyn Vue, Newlyn west, in the parish of Paul, on Sunday last, Mr. WILLIAM TONKIN, aged 94 years.    At Mousehole, on the 8th instant, WILLIAM ROBERTS, infant son of the late Mr. WILLIAM SEMMENS.    At Hayle, on Sunday last, Mrs. BAKER, aged 85 years.    At Whitehall, near Scorrier, on the 6th instant, Mr. WM. GOLDSWORTHY, aged 62 years.    At Chacewater Hill, on Friday last, JAMES, son of the late Mr. PETER GROSE, aged 17 years.    At Green Bottom, in the parish of Kenwyn, on the 8th instant, Mrs. OPIE, relict of the late Capt. OPIE, of Chacewater, aged 76 years.    At Roche, on Friday last, Mr. JOHN DYER, aged 22 years.    At Medrose, Camelford, on the 2nd instant, Mrs. MARY KENT, aged 81 years.    At Coleridge, near Knackersknowle, on the 8th instant, Mrs. CATHARINE WEBB, widow of the late Mr. EDMUND WEBB, formerly of Wisewandra, in this county, aged 78 years.    At Plymouth, on the 8th instant, after a short illness, Miss HESTER TRETHOWAN, aged 18 years.    In London, on the 4th instant, Mr. WILLIAM BARKELL, son of the late Capt. BARKELL, of Wheal Betsy Mine, MARY TAVY, aged 61 years.    In London, on the 8th instant, JOHN HUSBAND, eldest son of the late Mr. ROGER ROWE, of Laneast, in this county.    At Hafod, near Devil's Bridge, Wales, on Sunday last, AGNES, youngest daughter of Mr. WILLIAM TREGONING, aged 4 years.    At Brussels, on the 7th instant, ARTHUR VAUGHAN DONNITHORNE, eldest son of CHRISTOPHER ARTHUR HARRIS, Esq., of Hayne, in the county of Devon.     

NOTICE. ALL Persons having any Claims or Demands on the Estate of JOHN CLIMO, late of Polruan, near Fowey, deceased, are requested to forward particulars thereof to the Executors, Mr. JOHN SMITH, Surgeon, of Polruan, or to Mr. JOHN QULLER, Independent Preacher, Fowey; and all persons indebted to the said Estate are requested to pay the same to the said Executors. Polruan, near Fowey, 6th May, 1856. NOTICE. I, JOHN ALLEN, of TURNPIKE GATE, in the parish of St. Blazey, do HEREBY GIVE NOTICE, that my wife, SOPHIA ALLEN, having left me without any cause, I will not be answerable for any Debt or Debts she may contract after this date. As witness my hand, The mark X of JOHN ALLEN. Witness, GEORGE ISAAC. Dated St. Blazey Gate, May 3rd, 1856. HENRY HAWKEN Dyer’s Bankruptcy. MONTAGUE BAKER BERE, Esquire, Her Majesty’s Commissioner of the Exeter District Court of Bankruptcy, being the Commissioner authorized to set under a Petition for Adjudication of Bankruptcy filed on the Twenty-fourth of April, 1855, against Henry Hawken Dyer, of Boscastle, in the county of Cornwall, Grocer and Draper, Dealer and Chapman, will sit on the Twenty-first day of May instant, at One o’clock in the Afternoon precisely, at the Court of Bankruptcy for the Exeter District, in Queen Street, in the City of Exeter, in order to Audit the Assignees accounts, and on the Twenty-ninth day of May instant, at One o’clock in the Afternoon precisely, to make a Dividend of the Estate and Effects of the said Bankrupt. On either of the above days the Creditors who have not already proved their Debts may prove the same, or they will be excluded the benefit of the said Dividend, and all claims not then proved will be disallowed. HENDERSON, BARHAM, & WILCOCKS. Bristol; JOHN STOGDON, Exeter, Solicitors to the Assignees. CONSTANTINE VESTRY. – In consequences of the course adopted last year in this parish to make a church rate, a great number of persons refused to pay the illegal rate, and the church party, seeing they could not go on, have at length acknowledged their error, and given in. It may be remembered that the select vestry of twelve took upon themselves the entire voting of the rate, excluding many of the largest and most intelligent farmers from giving a voice in the matter. This year, however, the voting has been thrown open, all the ratepayers being allowed to vote, and in consequence the rate is now allowed, and cheerfully paid. CORNWALL RIFLES. – The second regiment of Cornwall Rifles has been called out, for the 20th instant, to assemble at Lauceston for twenty-one days’ exercise and training, J.S. Trelawny, Captain Commandant. MACKAREL FISHERY. – The mackerel fishery at Mevagissey has been very unproductive as yet, owing to the long continued boisterous weather, the boats having been frequently unable to go to sea. PERVERSION TO ROME. – We understand that the Rev. Mr. Shortland, who formerly officiated in Penzance church, has gone over to Rome, and will be stationed as priest at the Bodmin Catholic Chapel. FALMOUTH. – On Thursday the 1st instant the Genoese steamer “Roma” arrived from Newcastle bound for Genoa, and after filling with coals proceeded on her voyage. On Saturday last arrived H.M.S. “Gorgon” 6, Commander Crawford, with Coast Guard Men from Deacon fort. COLLISION AT SEA. – The barque “Antagonist”, of Plymouth, Blake, master, from Hamburg with a general cargo, and bound to Batavia, arrived at Falmouth on Tuesday, after being in contact the previous night at ten o’clock, twenty miles S.W. of the Lizard, with the French brig “Charles Adolphe”, of and from Rochelle, Rodinie, master, for Havre, with a cargo of logwood. The formast of the latter was carried away, and the crew instantly abandoned her, and came on board the “Antagonist”, but subsequently finding the brig continued to float, they all returned with the exception of two. The vessels afterwards parted, at which time the people of the brig were seen getting out their boat. The “Antagonist” has sustained damage to bulwars, stanchions, rail, chain-plates, &c. The wind was fresh from E.S.E. and night dark, and the barque was only a few hours from Plymouth when the collision occurred. The crew of the French brig having abandoned her on the forenoon of the 6th, are supposed to have been taken off by a trawling vessel. At 2 p.m. on Monday, the brig was boarded by three boats from Sennen Cove, near the Land’s End, and afterwards a pilot smack, No. 34, of Bristol. At 3 p.m. they obtained the assistance of the S.S. “Mass,” from Bristol to Rotterdam, about five miles off the Rundle Stone, and brought her into Penzance about 8 p.m. H.M. steam ship “Advice,” under the command of Mr. M.C. Raymond, got under weigh at the request of Mr. Richard Pearce, Vice Consul of France, in search of the brig, with the utmost promptitude, but on going off found that the “Mass” had her already in tow, and did not require any assistance. SHIPWRECK AND LOSS OF LIFE. – The schooner “Endeavor,” of Ipswich, William Matt, master, was driven on shore on Tuesday morning last, between the Gribbon Point and Polkerris, three miles west of Fowey harbour. She had become a total wreck, and three of her crew were unfortunately drowned. George Dewey, seaman, the only survivor, got on an island rock at a distance from the shore, from which perilous position he was rescued by Captain Norcock, R.N., inspecting commander of the coast guard, and two men named Thomas Henwood, commissioned boatman, and Richard Johns, jun. A boat having been brought from Polkerris, and lowered off the cliff, upwards of two hundred feet high. This officer, with the two men named, nobly ventured, at the risk of their lives, through a very heavy sea, succeeded in reaching the rock, and brought the poor fellow safely on shore. He was conveyed to Polkerris much exhausted, was put into a warm bed, and is fast recovering from the effects. SHEEP-KILLING. – Before the Magistrates at Launceston on Tuesday last, a man called Simon Kinver was charged with killing sheep, the property of Mr. Adams, tenant of Mr. Lethbridge, of Tregeare. Kinver has been in Mr. Lethbridge’s employ from a boy, and has for sometime been employed as shepherd. During the past six weeks, thirty-two sheep and lambs have been killed, eleven on Tregeare estate, and the remainder on estates of the tenants of Mr. Lethbridge; besides a number mangled, it was supposed by dogs. Kinver and others were employed with guns to watch for and destroy the dogs. At length, however, Kinver himself was suspected of destroying the sheep; he was watched, and the result was that he was taken into custody, and admitted that he had been guilty, with two or three others, of the slaughter of the sheep belonging to the different farmers no motive at the time being stated for his conduct. St. AUSTELL PETTY SESSIONS. – These sessions were helpd on Tuesday last, when Ann Gillies was charged wit hkeeping a disorderly Tap, and was fined £2 and costs. – Caroline Yelland was charged wit assaulting Mrs. Charles Taylor, and was fined 20s. and costs, or twenty-one days imprisonment. Edwin Knight, of St. Stephens in Branwell, was fined £5 and costs for furiously driving. – William Thomas, of St. Austell was fined 5s. and costs for getting drunk and using unseemly language. – A lad named George Corwell, was charged with stealing a gown, the property of Mrs. Truscott, of Mount Charles. It appeared the boy sold the dress, but the bench taking his youth in consideration discharged the case with a reprimand to the boy. ACCIDENT. – A serious accident occurred on Monday evening last, about six o’clock, as some of the adventurers in South Wheal Frances, who had attended the account that day, were entering Truro in a carriage. A little way down Lemon Street, one of the horses fell, and Mr. Thomas Dunstan, who was riding outside, having got down, the other horse got on the pavement and also fell, partly upon Mr. Dunstan, whose arm was broken, but we are glad to hear that he is progressing favourably towards recover. CORONER’S INQUEST. – On Monday last, an inquest was held before Mr. John Carlyon, county coroner at Helford, in the parish of Manaccan, on the body of William Plomer, aged 72 years, who was found dead in his bed on Saturday morning. He had gone to bed the evening before, in his usual health, and on the following morning about seven o’clock, when his step-daughter went into his room, she found him dead with his legs out over the bed, as if he had died in the act of getting out of bed. – Verdict, “died by the visitation of God.” ROYAL CORNWALL SAILORS’ HOME. – The following is the weekly report from the 29th of April to the 6th of May inclusive: – Remained by the last report, 9; admitted since, 5; discharged, 7; remaining 7. Of those in the sick ward, – Remained by the last report,4; cured and convalescent,3; died, 1. Average number victualled each day, 10. Amount received from inmates and remitted to their friends, or remaining in the Superintendent’s hands, £26 19s. Legal Intelligence. STANNARIES’ COURT The quarterly sittings of the Stannaries Court for Devon and Cornwall were opened at Truro on Saturday last, before the Vice-Warden, when the following motions were made: – RICKARD and OTHERS v. HAMLEY, – Bedford Consols. – Mr. STOKES (for Mr. Chilcott) said this was a creditors’ petition for recovery of £10 5s. A decree pro confesso for payment had been granted, and a portion of the debt had been received, leaving a balance due of £7 12s. 5d. On affidavits of service of decree and non-payment, he moved for an order nísí for sale. – Rule nísí granted. GATLEY v. RICKARD. – St. Dennis Consols. – The plaintiff was Mr. John Gatley, and the defendant Mr. Martin Rickard. Mr. JOCKIN said plaintiff’s was a creditor’s petition for recovery of £122 13s. 2d., with interest from the 1st of November last. Mr. Roberts had put in an answer, but was now willing to consent to a decree for the amount, payable in a month (the decree for payment, under the new rules of court, including an order for sale). Mr. ROBERTS, for defendant, stated his consent, and the VICE-WARDEN made a decree for payment in a month. PEARSE v. BUCKINGHAM. – Tinvale Mine – Plaintiff was Mr. JOHN TUENER PEARSE; defendant, Mr. JOHN BUCKINGHAM. Mr. HOCKIN said this was a creditor’s suit for recovery of £5 10s. 2d. A decree for payment had been made under the new practice, including an order nísí for sale. He now moved, on affidavits of service and non-payment, for a rule absolute for sale. Some conversation took place between the Vice-Warden and Mr. Hockin as to whether it was not sufficient, under the new rules, to file affidavits of service and non-payment with the Registrar, and then to have an order for sale as a matter of course, without coming before the Vice-Warden. HIS HONOR said he would consider that point. NOELL v. WYNNE. – In this case, Mr. Henry Noell, of Hayle, as purser of Gwallon Mine, in St. Hilary, sued Mr. Thomas Wynne, an inspector of cole mines, in Staffordshire, for recovery of £213, 0s. 8d., costs on 22-1024th shares in that mine. The mine was started in January, 1853, when Mr. Noel sent reports and blank forms to various parties who were invited to take shares. Defendant filled up a printed form in which he applied for twenty-five. There were more shares applied for than the number into which the mine was divided; an allotment was made to each applicant rateably, and defendant was allotted twenty-two instead of the twenty-five he applied for. Notice of the allotment was sent to defendant in March, 1853, but defendant neither assented to nor dissented from the arrangement. Noticed of the mine meetings and statements of accounts were subsequently sent to defendant, who, however, took no noticed of them, or ever wrote on the subject to the purser. About twelve months after he applied for shares, he told Mr. Charles Lear, in Staffordshire, that he would have nothing to do with the shares as he had not the number that he applied for. The case was heard at the last sittings, when the VICE-WARDEN deferred judgment. He had since given the following decision: – In this case I cannot doubt that the defendant really received all the letters and notices sent to him. Possibly he purposely abstained from making any reply, in order that he might be at liberty to accept or repudiate the shares, according as it might be found to be his interest to do one thing or the other. This would be a fraud. I am, therefore, of opinion, that he is rightly held liable as a shareholder; that his conduct on and after the receipt of the letter of March fixed him with acquiescence in the altered proposal contained in that letter; and that any other view of the case would only tend to fix him with a fraud of the company. I shall presume a contract and not a fraud; and give judgment for plaintiff, and decree payment in a week, otherwise sale, &c. I have already said that the evidence is far from cogent. I am, therefore, willing to give defendant the benefit of an issue at law on the question whether the plaintiff consented to become a shareholder for twenty-two shares in March; on condition that the issue be tried at the next sittings, and that there be an order for sale absolute forthwith if the verdict be against defendant. If not issue be put down for trial at next sitting, then the above decree to stand.” Mr. STOKES, for plaintiff, now said he understood his friend Mr. ROBERTS was not prepared to try his issue, though he had been in communication with the parties in Staffordshire. He (Mr. Stokes) should urge that the issue be tried, if at all, during the present sittings, because the number of shares in defendant’s name in the cost-book, 22-1024ths, kept the accounts in a state of confusion. Mr. ROBERTS, in reply, stated that he did not receive his Honor’s judgment until the 21st of April, when he sent a copy of it to Staffordshire; and he went on to state what had since passed between him and defendant’s solicitor in Staffordshire, who certainly had not understood his client’s position, although he (Mr. Roberts) had been as explicit as he well could be. On the ground of the importance of the suit to defendant, and because he submitted plaintiff had been guilty of laches, and to give defendant’s Staffordshire solicitor an opportunity, if he wished it, of consulting counsel in London, he asked his Honor to give further time to the defendant, even if thereby the issue was thrown over for trial to the next sittings. – The VICE WARDEN said he would consider the case, and state to what extent he would depart form the condition that the issue be entered for trail at these sittings. LANG v. ROSKILLY AND ANOTHER. – In this small debt case, the verdict for plaintiff to pay costs of the day, which when taxed amounted to £3 1s. 6d. On the motion of Mr. HOCKIN, for defendants, an order was made for payment of these costs. The court was then adjourned. STANNARIES’ COURT. (Continued from the Sixth Page.) The cause list contained the following entries: – Stannaries of Devon, motions, 10; equity side, 22. Stannaries of Cornwall, suits by plaint, 43; by writ, 1; motions, 5; equity side, 21. On Monday the Court proceeded with the hearing of small debt cases (for recovery of debts not exceeding £50), and the same class of cases occupied the whole of Tuesday. On the latter day the following were amongst the actions tried: – FULFORD v. PERMEWAN. – Mr. STOKES appeared for plaintiff; the defendant conducted his own case. Plaintiff was Thomas Fulford, a miner, who sued the defendant for recovery of £5 1s. 9d., as a balance which he alleged was due to him for tutwork performed in St. Columb United Mines, in the parish of St. Columb Major, in February and March last, and for money which he said he had expended for articles used on the mine. Defendant was Mr. James Permewan, of Penzance, the purser of St. Columb United, who was sued as an adventurer in the mine. The plaintiff gave evidence that he was employed by Captain John Teague, the then managing agent of the mine, to drive south in the adit ten fathoms, at 10s. per fathom, at a place called Trebadannon, immediately adjoining the mine. He worked there from the 8th of February to the 3rd of March, when he was stopped by orders of a new agent, Captain Michell, who has been appointed in the place of Captain Teague. He had driven before he was stopped, 9 fathoms 1 foot, which, at 10s. per fathom, would come to £4 11s 8d. He also worked two stems by direction of Captain Teague, for which he charged 2s. 6d. each day. He bought a crowbar for the use of the mine, price 4s. 2d., and Captain Teague had it; he supplied also a large candle chest for the mine, value 6s. From this he had to deduct for candles supplied to him, the greater part of which he had returned, and 1s. 6d. for “doctor and club,” after which deductions his claim was reduced to £5 1s. 9d. From this plaintiff had to make a further deduction of 6s. for the chest, because his plaint did not extend to “goods sold and delivered, “thud reducing his entire claim to £4 15s 9d. Captain Teague had measured the ground he had driven, and made it 9 fathoms 1 foot, and afterwards Captain Teague and Captain Michell had measured it together, and found it six inches more. John Rowse, whose brother had land at Trebadannon, adjoining the mine, stated that defendant had applied for that land to be added to the sett. It was not granted him, but he obtained permission from Mr. Rowse to clear out the adit from ? mouth at Trebadannon; witness was present when Captain Teauge set the bargain to plaintiff, and he had seen plaintiff afterwards working in that adit. Captain John Teague was also called, and gave evidence that he had set the bargain to plaintiff for 10 fathoms, and that plaintiff had driven 9 fathoms 1 foot. Mr. Permewan cross-examined these witnesses at considerable length and said he had paid the plaintiff, in error, for work said to have been performed by him, but which was not, previously to the bargain which was the subject of the present suit and he wished to deduct that amount as a set-off from the plaintiff’s present claim. He was told, however, by the Vice-Warden, that he could not do so, because he had given no notice of a set-off; but he would be able to recover any amount wrongly paid, by another process. On further cross-examination, the plaintiff admitted that he had worked in Penair mine, of which Captain Teague was the agent, but he denied that he had charged for work done in both mines in the same month. These, and other questions about materials brought from Penair mine to St. Columb United, and about materials bought at a mine sale, &c., were put by defendant, with the view of showing, as he said, that Captain Teague and the plaintiff were leagued together. The plaintiff denied this imputation and on Mr. Permewan saying he wanted to show that there was no collusion between plaintiff and the agent. Captain Teague retorted – “You are an infamous man.” The Vice-Warden stopped this course of proceeding, stating that the only question was, whether the plaintiff had done certain work fro which he was entitled to be paid. Mr. Permewan, he said, had no business to make this action a vehicle for inquiring into the general management of the mine. Plaintiff admitted that after a meeting of the adventurers on the 15th of February, defendant told him he was to stop drivingl but, he said, defendant afterwards told him he was to go on under the directions of Captain Teague, who continued to act as agent till the 7th of March. This point elicited the remark from the Vice-Warden, that even if the purse ordered the work to be stopped, it having been set by the managing captain, the question was which the miner should obey. He thought the purser could not stop work ordered by the captain, unless there was a special resolution of the adventurers empowering him to do so. Eventually the VICE-WARDEN, in summing up told the jury that the greater part of the plaintiff’s claim was for work done, and there could be not doubt from the evidence, that he did that work by the direction of a person who had at the time abundant authority. – Verdict for the plaintiff for £4 15s 9d. TEAGUE v. KNIGHT. In this case Mr. William Teague, brewer, at Truro, sued Mr. John Knight, beershop keeper in that town, for recovery of £6 16s. 4d., balance alleged to be due for beer supplied to defendant between the 1st of July and the 31st of January last, Defendant had paid £3 11s. 11d. into court, which reduced plaintiff’s claim to £3 4s. 5d. Mr. STOKES appeared for the plaintiff; defendant conducted his own case. There was no dispute about the quantity of beer and porter charged for, with the exception of one kilderkin, which defendant alleged was returned, and for which he claimed a reduction of 16s. But there was a conflict of evidence about certain allowances which are frequently made by brewers to beer-sellers by retail, and on this point the court was occupied a long time. The allowances in question were 1s. per kilderkin discount to the beer-seller, and 9d. per kilderkin for grains and barm, if the latter were not supplied to the retailer. The plaintiff, Mr. Teague, said he only allowed the 1s. discount when settlements were made on delivery of monthly or two monthly accounts; and that as to grains and barm, defendant had been supplied with even more than the usual quantity. The allowances as to grains and barm were quite gratuitous, and only made in the case of regular customers, defendant being merely an occasional customer; plaintiff did not make such allowances to parties cast of Truro. William Penno, in the employ of plaintiff, was called to corroborate his testimony. – On the part of the defendant several witnesses were called. Defendant and his son, and another witness stated that grains and barm had been had by defendant from plaintiff’s brewery only about four times; and defendant called Mr. Thomas Collins who keeps a beer-shop and eating-house in Church Lane, Truro, who stated that he had dealt with the plaintiff and his predecessor Mr. George Abraham Knight for twenty-three years, during which time he had always been allowed the 1s. discount, and 9d. per kilderkin for barm and grains, which as he always paid for when supplied, he was allowed for when the bills were settled, and that always he had three months’ credit, and sometimes more. The same allowance for discount, grains and barm was made by the Penzance Brewery. Mr. Thomas John, who had formerly been clerk to plaintiff, said the allowances spoken of were usual; when bills had run over three, four, or more months, he had known the discounts allowed. This witness admitted that he had had differences with the plaintiff. He also said that the brewers in the west of Cornwall on one occasion met together at Hayle, and tried to abolish the allowances, but they found it would not do. The defendant himself gave evidence that plaintiff told him he would supply himo n the same terms as Mr. knight, the agent of the Penzance Brewery, which was 1s. 9d. per kilderkin for discount and barm and grains. This, however, was denied by the plaintiff, who said he never made any such agreement with defendant. Mr. STOKES, in addressing the jury, urged that the allowances for grains and barm were only made to regular customers like Mr. Collins, and not to such as the defendant, who brewed himself. The VICE-WARDEN said, the law presumed that tradespeople were to be paid in ready money, and though a tradesman might give credit in some instances, and grant discounts, that was no proof what ought to be his dealings in all cases. The defendant, however, had said there was a specific agreement as to the terms on which he was to be supplied, and on that and other points the Vice-Warden dre attention to the credibility of the witnesses, and particularly referred to the vidence of Mr. John. Defendant claimed as a set-off, for discounts £1 9s.; for barm and grains, 18s 9d; and for kilderkin returned, 16s., which made up £3 3s. 9d. The jury retured from the court to consider the case, and on their return gave verdict for plaintiff for 18s. 9d., thus disallowing to defendant his claim for barm and grains, but allowing him the 1s. per kilderkin discounts, and the value of the returned kilderkin. WEDNESDAY, MAY 7. NOELL v. WYNNE. – The VICE-WARDEN read the order he had made in this case, to the effect that if the defendant should, within one calendar month after date of the order, elect to try an issue upon the fact whether the defendant was or was not, in April, 1853, when the first call was made, a holder of 22-1024th shares in Gwqallon mine, then such issue is to be prepared, and notice of trial to be given for the next sittings, on the common law side of the court. If the issue was not brought for trial at the next sittings, or if on trial and verdict for plaintiff, no new trial was for within three days, or if moved for was not granted, then the judgment already made in the cause to be absolute. Mr. Roberts having mentioned that defendant contemplated an appeal, the VICE WARDEN said he would give every facility for so doing, and signified his opinion that defendant might appeal either with or without trying the issue. OATES v. BARNES. – This was an action at common law, Mr. STOKES appearing for the plaintiff; and Mr. HOCKIN and Mr. R. MILLETT for the defendant. Plaintiff was Mr. Josiah Oates, of the parish of Ludgvan, and defendant was Mrs. Amelia Barnes, formerly of Regent House Academy, Penzance, and lately living at Falmouth. The action was for recover y of £66 6s. 10d., as a balance which the plaintiff claimed to be due to him from the defendant as administratrix for money payable by Richard Barnes in his lifetime to Harriet Oates, the wife of plaintiff, and for money due on an account stated. The declaration also alleged that defendant had herself promised to pay the money now claimed. In answer to this defendant had pleaded, first, that he deceased husband was never indebted; secondly, that she had never promised to pay; and thirdly she had pleaded plen administravit, or that she had fully administered all the estate and effects of her deceased husband, and had nothing left to pay the plaintiff. From the statement of MR. Stokes, and the evidence of plaintiff, it appeared that Mr. Oates married Miss Harriet Boase in 1835, and that previously a marriage settlement was drawn, dated 5th September, 1835, by which £500 in New 3-1/2 per cent. Annuities, was settled upon Mrs. Oates and her children Two trustees were appointed under the marriage settlement, one being Mr. Richard Barnes, and the other a Mr. Bodilly. Mr. Barnes was the acting trustee, and it appeared that during the lifetime of Mrs. Oates (who died 10th of September last) Mr. Barnes, with the concurrence of Mr. and Mrs. Oates, sold out all the stock, and lent the sum of £336 5s. to a Mr. White, on interest, whilst the remained of the sum accruing from the stock was applied towards the purchase of land, to which the parties all agreed. The money lent to White was repaid to Barnes, and in 1847, Josiah Oates had some of the principal from Barnes. In 1848 he received from Barnes an account of the trust moneys then remaining with the trustees, as follows: – 1847, Feb. 9th, by cash, £156 15s.; 1848, Feb. 5th, to case paid £25, which deducted from the previous sum left £131 15s. Mr. Barnes died in October, 1849, and his widow (the present defendant) administered to his estate and effects. Then in February, 1850 plaintiff, his wife, and the surviving trustee, Mr. Bodilly, saw Mrs . Barnes at Penzance. The account of Mr. Barnes given to plaintiff in 1848 was then talked about, and Mr. Bodilly undertook to see what the remaining balance amounted to. He then made the following additional entries with the assent of Mrs. Barnes: January 11th, 1850, interest on £131 15s. at five per cent, for three years, £19 13s., from which deduct 5s. 6d. income tax, and the sum remaining was £19 7s. 6d., which, added to the principal £131 15s., made 151 2s. 6d. Mr. Bodilly was Mrs. Barnes’s brother-in-law. Up to that time plaintiff and his wife had received the whole of the money except the sum of £151 2s. 6d., and he was then paid by Mrs. Barnes £51 2s. 6d., thus leaving a blance due from her as administratrix of £100. Plaintiff said Mrs. Barnes told him it was fortunate her husband’s life had been insured in £500 as it enabled her to make herself clear in the world. He received from her after that, about April, 1850, the sume of £50, which reduced the balance owing to £50, which with interest made up the sum now claimed of £66 6s. 10d. – Mr. HOCKIN cross-examined the plaintiff with the view of supporting the plea of plene administravit, to show that defendant had exhausted the estate of her deceased husband, in which case nothing more could be claimed from her. Plaintiff admitted that defendant had seven children, that she had an expensive son or two, that she had given up the school and left Penzance, and that he heard her say her debts were £800 at the death of her husband, but he believed she administered to £1,209. Mr. Hockin declined at the call of Mr. Stokes, to produce the letters of administration, and there then ensued a long legal argument between the advocates. Mr. HOCKIN submitted that the plaintiff must be non-suited, on three separate grounds: – first, that a cestui qui trust could not sue at common law to recover a balance from trustees. Secondly, that the marriage settlement deed of Harriet Boase (which had been put in as evidence) conveyed the property to her as wife and to her children and that there was no ulterior trust in favour of her husband; she had no children, and having power to dispose of the property as she pleased, but not exercising that power, Mr. Hockin contended that her husband was not her legal representative in respect of this trust money, and could not claim from the defendant. He also submitted that plaintiff could not sustain this notion without having administered to his wife’s estate. These points were argued by the advocates, and reserved by the Vice-Warden; but another point urged by Mr. Hockin, that the plaintiff had not shown assets in hand, was over-ruled by his Honor, who thought there was evidence of assets to the amount of £50, and on that point the case went to the jury. Mr. HOCKIN told the jury that the representative of a deceased person was not bound, by law, to pay more that the estate produced. He then put in defendant’s letters of administration, and also the residency account, showing in the hands of the administratrix, £1,301, but that she had paid debts amounting to £903, leaving a balance of £398. The balance, however, he said was only apparent, not actual, because the house at Penzance, where the school was kept by Mr. Barnes, was valued in the account at £531 5s., but after his death Mrs. Barnes had found it was mortgaged in £400, and the mortgagee was now in possession, and the house was to be sold. Deducting therefore, the value of the house, £531 5s., from the total amount £1,301, the value of Mr. Barnes’s estate was reduced to £769 15s. 5d., and as Mrs. Barnes had paid debts amounting to £902, she had actually paid, with the assistance of friends, £132 more than she had received. (Mr. STOKES here contended that the value of the house could not be expunged from the assets under a plea of plene administratvit, but that the mortgage should have been specially pleaded, as in law it was considered a debt of a higher nature. His Honour made a note of the objection). Mrs. Barnes was then called, and said she had paid away more money than she had received from her husband’s estate; she did not recollect ever having told plaintiff that she had money enough to clear her in the world; she always intended to pay him if she could, but believed she never stated any time. She also gave evidence about the mortgage on the house, confirming Mr. Hockin’s statement; and Mr. R. Millett testified to the same point, stating that he had the house lately valued and the appraiser’s opinion was that it was not worth more than the £400 mortgage. After Mr. Stokes had replied, the VICE-WARDEN summed up, stating that all the property which had come to the defendant from her deceased husband had been disposed of except the house in question, which came into her possession at his death in 1849, and her duty, as executrix, was to dispose of it within a reasonable time, but supposing he allowed a year and a half. There was a mortgage on the house of £400, which at five per cent interest for a year and ahlf would be £430, and expenses of sale, if she had sold it, might raise the whole to £450. Now the house was valued at Mr. Barnes’s death in £531, which would be £80 more than the £450. The question was (considering Mr. Millett’s evidence as to the present value of the house, and the fact that mortgaged property sells below its value), whether they thought the house was worth more than £450 four years ago; for the point was, whether the defendant had any assets at the time of the commencement of this action, and what assets she might have had if there had been no laches in her sale of the property. – The jury retired from the court, and on returning estimated the value of the house at £531, and found a verdict for the plaintiff for the sum claimed, £66, 6s 10d.; defendant, however, having leave to move on the points reserved. HORSEWELL v. HAMBLY. – This was asuit in equity. Mr. STOKES and Mr. E. CHILCOTT (of Tavistock) for plaintiff; Mr. HOCKIN and MR. ROBERTS for defendant. Plaintiff claimed from defendant, as agent of Bedford Consols, the sum of £40 19s. as his salary at three guineas per month, from November 1854, to December 1855. The plaintiff claimed this money on the ground that he had been appointed, and acted as captain of Bedford Consols, though his salary had never been fixed. The plaintiff’s case was heard on Wednesday afternoon, after which the court was adjourned. THURSDAY, MAY 8. OATES v. BARNES. – MR. HOCKIN moved for a rule nisi to show cause why the plaintiff should not be nonsuited. He moved on the points reserved: – first, that it was a case of cestui qui trust, seeking to recover from his trustee, upon which an action could not be brough at common law; secondly, that the plaintiff was not in a position to sue, inasmuch as he is not thelegal representative of his late wife; and thirdly, to show cause why a verdict should not be entered for the defendant, on the ground that she had paid monies beyond the assts, and therefore was entitled to retain that amount of the debt. – The VICE WARDEN granted a rule nisi. HORSEWILL v. HAMBLY.– This case, partly heard yesterday, was now proceeded with. We shall give a report of it next week. – The Vice-Warden deferred judgment. EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY (Before Mr. Commissioner Bere.) THURSDAY, APRIL 24. Re F.W. EMERSON, of Trereife Chemical Works, Penzance, manufacturing chemist. This was a meeting for last examination. – Mr. STOGDON appeared for the bankrupt; and Mr. TURNER for a Mr. ANDREWS, who claimed some property which was found in the bankrupt’s possession by the bankruptcy messenger, and delivered over to the official assignee. The question raised today was whether Mr. ANDREWS was or was not entitled to have the property in question returned to him by the official assignee, and it was understood that if the property was not returned Mr. ANDREWS would take legal proceedings to recover it. – The Bankrupt was examined, and stated that the property which Mr. ANDREWS claimed was carbonate of lead, which was not at his works in a dry state, and ready for manufacture. He (bankrupt) purchased it as suplate of lead, and converted it into the carbonate; the parties of whom he purchased it were Messrs. Smith, of London. – The COMMISSIONER asked why Mr. ANDREWS claimed it? The Bankrupt said that in October, 1854, Mr. Andrews advanced him £60, and he sold to him six tons of the carbonate of lead at £10 per ton, with an understanding that he was to redeem it within a certain time by re-payment of the £60. It was afterwards agreed that on the 14th of February, 1855, the bankrupt should convert a quantity of ingredients, which should be sent to him by Mr. Andrews, into “patent white lead” Mr. Andrews accordingly sent him some letharge, ore, acid, sulphate, &c. to be converted. Mr. Andrew’s brother was at the works to be instructed in the art of making “patent white lead,” and while he was so engaged, two tons of the ingredients sent by Mr. Andrews were converted. After being converted, they were sent to Mr. Andrews, who intended to forward them to Messrs. Vaughan and Simmons, of London, to be converted into cash. The remainder of the materials were still in the bankrupt’s works at Penzance. He (the bankrupt) had a license for making “patent white lead,” and also held a thirty-second share in the patent; the license for making however expired at his bankruptcy. Mr. TURNER said the goods, having been sent to the bankrupt, and not converted, Mr. ANDREWS was entitled to claim them at the bankruptcy as his property; it was the same as a person sending cloth to his tailor, when, in the event of bankruptcy, it would be monstrous to say the cloth did not belong to the person sending it. The COMMISSIONER thought that it was nevertheless so. The case put by Mr. TURNER, he thought, only applied to watches and books. The bankrupt’s examination was then resumed. He stated that the ingredients sent by Mr. ANDREWS were the only ones of the kind in his works, with the exception of a small quantity of one or two ingredients, and had not Mr. Andrews sent them he should have been obliged to purchase on his own account, in order to keep the works on as they were only adapted for that particular work. The COMMISSIONER said that the point of law in the case in questions was so extremely difficult that he should advise the assignee to give up the property to the claimant. The balance sheet commenced on the 13th of September, 1851, and concluded at the date of the petition on the 7th of February, 1856. On the debtor side were debts owing, for which no consideration had been given, £55 18s. 4d.; amount due to creditors holding mortgages, liens, or other securities, £5,283 7s 1d.; all other debts owing £7,554 8s, 7d.; profits of business, sale to G.W. ANDREWS, of shares in Spilbury’s Patent, £4,910; received of T. ANDREWS, for premium with his son, £100; interest on F.G. Spilbury’s mortgage debt, £225 18s, 8d.; capital at the commencement of this balance sheet, £660 2s. 8d.; total £18,789 15s, 4d. On the creditor side were debts owing for which no consideration had been given, £55, 18s, 4d.; good debts, £1,435 2s., 11d.; bad, £1,912 5s. 4d.; property mortgaged, £3,500; all other property, £532 19s, 7d.; losses, £6,766 1s. 7d.; trade expenses, £3,963 1s. 7d.; household expenses, £624 6s 2d.; total, £18,780 15s. 4d. Among the creditors in Cornwall are – R.H. Davy, Penzance, £10 0s. 8d.; Walter EDMONDS, Penzance, 7; W.D. MATHEWS, Penzance, £11 9s.2d.; among the large creditors are Mr. S.W. ANDREWS, Brentford, £345 14s.; Glasgow Bank, £423 3s. 10d.; Thomas Harrison, London, £150; HUGHES and STEELE, Newport, £300; London and Westminster Bank, £300; Phillipps, Cardiff, £95 7s 6d.; J. SCOTT, Keswick, 64 4s. 11d.; R.C. SLADE, Newport, £234 7s 6d.; REBECCA SCALE, Cardiff, £515 13s. 6d.; VAUGHAN and SYMONDS, Southwark, London, for goods and cash , £2983 12s. 9d.; for bills accepted, £1225. The mortgage creditors are W.H. FLINTAN, New Kent Road, London, £245 8s 9d.; Gresham Assurance Company, London, £3509; interest thereon, £112 18s. 4d.; and Samuel Gilbert, Bow Road, London, £1,200. The property mortgaged was Trereife Chemical Works, Penzance, £3,069 16s 5d.; water course, £104 1s. 6d.; laid out since in plant, machinery, &c., £2,368 0s. 1d.; valued only at the amount due on mortgage to the Gresham Assurance Company, £3,500. The cause of bankruptcy was stated to be want of sufficient capital to bring his patents and mines into productive working; and in consequence of the pressure in the money market cause by the bank raising their discounts, inability to get capitalists to join him in carrying them out; thereby causing the above losses. THE ANCIENT HISTORY OF LOOE BRIDGE AND MILL. – This was a paper by Mr. JONATHAN COUCH, read by Mr. Tweedy. Now that the ancient and picturesque bridge which has connected the neighbouring towns of East and West Looe was about to disappear, he was desirous of placing on record a few particulars of the early portion of its history. As regarded the earlier portion of his materials, they derived their authenticity from the communication of an antiquary whose name stands pre-eminent in this department of science, but which without his consent he did not consider himself permitted to mention. An incident was related in Lardner’s Cabinet Cyclopædia, extracted from one of our ancient chronicles, showing that in the year 1403, in the reign of Henry the Fourth, a roving party of French and Spaniards attacked the town of Chita, as the writer calls it, which undoubtedly was Shuta, still existing as an obscure village, where, as is acknowledged by all, formerly stood the principal portion of the town now known as East Looe, and an ancient crossing place led to the perhaps still more ancient Port Bigh or Bye-ham, now West Looe. The place contained about three hundred houses, and was very rich, being inhabited wholly by merchants and fishermen. Mr. COUCH went on to give details of the attack upon the town, and remarked that such an attack could not have been made if a bridge had existed. It is certain that the building of this bridge was begun not long afterwards, and as the expense was likely to be great, and partly also because of the injury that had been inflicted by these pirates on the inhabitants of Shuta, in the burning of their dwellings and the destruction of their merchandise, recourse was had to an ecclesiastical indulgence to raise the money. The authority for this indulgence is to be found in Bishop Stafford’s Registrar at Exeter, and is dated 22nd of October, 1411. We cannot explain why it happened that no two arches of this bridge were alike in their span; but as the triangular recess on one of the pillars was larger than the others, an intention must have existed in the mind of the builder of devoting it to the use to which it was afterwards appropriated, that of receiving a way-side chapel. And yet this intention was not carried into effect until twenty-five years afterwards. According to the evidence of the Register, vol. 3, fol. 135 “the chapel of St. Anne, the Mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary, that was built and erected in the middle of the said new bridge.” Was licensed by Bishop Lacy the 18th of November, 1426. It is not unlikely that the Barbican or place of defence was erected at the same time with the bridge, as it could not have been of use before, and afterwards it served as a guard to the only part of the town of Shuta – running as it did along the hill – that was open to attack. When the town was transferred to where East Looe now stands, this Barbican ceased to be of use, and nothing beyond the name is now remembered of it. It is proper to state, however, that some portion of the present town of East Looe must have been in existence long before this; although it was, at the time we are speaking of, of less importance and riches than its more ancient neighbour on the top of the hill. At the earliest notice we find of it, a church existed, for in the register of Walter Nornescombe, who was the Bishop of Exeter from the year 1258 to 1280, folio 8, it is recorded that, “ in the year 1259, on Saturday after the feast of St. Denis (October) the Lord Bishop dedicated the Church of St. Mary de Loo.”– At that part of the Looe river where it is divided in to two nearly equal branches, is the Millpool which, as being an enclosed portion of the current, was the subject of an action at law. Mr. Couch here gave a long account of this ancient trial, which tool place at the county assizes, between Sir John Banks, Knight, as Attorney-General for the Crown, and Thomas Arundel, Esq., defendant. He observed that the Millpool must have been greatly enlarged soon after the trial, for instead of two acres it is now full thirteen acres in extent. STONE CIRCLES. – A letter from Mr. Mac Lauchlan to Mr. Tweedy was read by Dr. Barham. Referring to the notice at the last annual meeting of the Institution, of stone circles found by Mr. Whitley on Dartmoor, Mr. MacLauchlan observes: – Professor John Phillips in his “Rivers and Hills of Yorkshire” has written on these circles, and I have seen them frequently, particularly on Ingleborough, in Yorkshire, and Carn-engles near Newport in Pembrokeshire. These are two of the strongest hill camps in the kingdom perhaps, and from their name containing the world engle or ingle (fire in British) may be fairly supposed of British origin, particularly the latter.” – Mr. MacLauchlan stated from his own observation that these stone circles are widel diffused over the kingdom, and that they are probably of early origin. He thought they were a primitive way of making a shelter; sticking up poles, tying them together perhaps at the top, and putting turf or other warm covering as a shelter from the wet and cold. He believed the doors were generally to the south, or on the lowest side; and he had generally found the circles from twenty-five to thirty feet in diameter. – Mr. MacLauchlan also says: – “ I read the account of the opening of they Veryan barrow with great satisfaction, as I had often seen it in my walks by the Cornish shore, and pondered on what it might probably contain. It is not often that suggestion from early history meet with so probable an elucidation of Gerennius; and perhaps you could not find a better reason for opening these barrows, to which some people objected, than the success attending your excavation in Cornwall. ROYAL INSTITUTION OF CORNWALL. A Meeting of the members was held on the 29th ult., the Mayor of Truro, Mr. Stokes, presiding, and there was a numerous and respectable attendance. Dr. Barham drew attention to a very fine specimen of coral, presented by Mr. Augustus Smith, of Tresco Abbey, Scilly; which had been brought from the South Seas by a master of a vessel. Mr. Tweedy presented from Mrs. Taunton several telescopes and other optical instruments. Besides there intrinsic worth, they will be regarded with interest as a memorial of Dr. Taunton’s long and valuable connection with the institution. Dr. Barham exhibited several of the specimens which had been received from the Commissioners of the Great Exhibition, illustrative of various operations in arts and manufacturers. The CORNISH MOTTO. – A letter was ready by Dr. Barham from Mr. Charles Fox, inclosing a note from Mr. Robert Walker Childs, of London, who said – “I have read with great interest our communication to the Royal Institution of Cornwall, with reference to the Sidonian inscription. Beloythe or Bolitho is the name of a place near Liskeard, as well as the name of a family. I think many traces of the ancient intercourse between Cornwall and Phœnicia yet remain for discovery. It has sometimes occurred to me that the Cornish motto “One and all” was undoubtedly a religious formula of the Egyptians and Phœnicians, expressing the unity and universality of the Deity; and Ammon, or Bel, was also called by the Greeks Hen (one). I have never heard of any satisfactory explanation of the Cornish motto; it has usually been attributed to the clannish feeling among the Cornish; but I should think it has a more ancient origin; and as your attention has been directed to our connexion with Phœnicia, you will, I am sure, excuse my troubling you withthis idea.” – Mr. Charles Fox remarks: “If we could recover the Cornish language, as spoken before the christian era, we should probably fine many evidences, in Hebra-Phœnician words, of early intercourse. That no coins (as I suppose) have been found, may perhaps be attributed to their direct intercourse with Cornwall having almost ceased before their subjection to the Greeks. No Phœnician coins of an earlier date than that, are extant. Mr. Fox’s note had also reference to a donation which it accompanied of a photographic copy of the head of the Sidonian King, the inscription on whose sarcophagus was presented at the meeting of the institution in February. Mr. Fox says: – “I can now send the copy (which I obtained in Syria) of the head of the Sidonian King. I do not know what accuracy there may be in the outline of the lower end of the sarcophagus lid, as represented in the copy of the inscription which I sent to the institution; but on connecting the two parts (the head and inscription) one may observe how nearly, if not exactly, the lid resembles that form of Pthah, or Vulcan, particularly worshipped at Memphis, excepting the Scarrabæus with the sun and asps, which are not figured in the breast of the Sidonian King. The necklace with its two extremities, each surmounted by a hawk’s head, especially belonged to Pthah Sokari. The inscription occupies the usual place of the hieroglyphics. Although the lid is eight feet in length, there is a stunted form in the outline (according to my copy) which entirely agrees with Sir G. Wilkinson’s figure of the sarcophagus of the dwarf deity at Memphis. TEREDO NAVALIS. – Mr. OSLER gave a description of the Ship-worm, of which notices have appeared in the Newspapers as ingesting the harbour at Sebastopol, and destroying the Russian ships sunk in that harbour. He exhibited specimens from the museum, and said the descriptions in newspapers were very inaccurate. It is not a worm, but a shell fish; it does not feed upon timber, but bores in it for its habitation. The Teredo Navalis is found in all warm climates, but has long been extinct in these northern seas. NATURAL HISTORY.– A description of a peculiar kind of fungus, (written by Mr. W. Tweedy), was read by Mr. Tweedy. It belonged to the genious Geaster or Earth-star, and was found in a hollow elm tree at Truro Ve?. Mr. Edward Parfitt, of Exeter, believed it to be the Fornlectus(?) of Hudson and other authors; but Mr. W. Tweedy dissented from that opinion. – After the reading of this paper, Dr. Barham congratulated the society on an occasion of juvenile labourers, and spoke of the useful operations of the Natural History class last year. GEOLOGY. – A section of curious rocks at Bude as present by Mr. Whitley; and Mr. Tweedy and Mr. Whitley made some observations thereon. Mr. Whitley thought the rocks had been peculiarly twisted through having been pressed up between the large masses of granite on either side. – Dr. Barham then read a note from Professor Sedgwick, in which he inquires “Has anything been done lately with the older palæozoic beds of Cornwall? I mean the beds south of St. Austell, which have what I call true old Cambrian fossils. It is a question of sections rather than of fossils; and the stratigraphical points are not (or were not) very easy to settle.” INSCRIBED STONE. – A sketch was presented by Mr. WHITLEY, of an inscribed stone about five feet high, of granite, at the mowhay gate, Nanscowe, in St. Brenck. The inscription was as follows: – VLCAGNIFIL: SEVER, which being a combination of British and Roman, Mr. Whitley suggested that it afforded proof that intermarriages took place in ancient times between the noble Romans and the ladies of Britain, the fame of whose beauty, as in modern times, reached to distant parts of the world. – Mr. TWEEDY referred to other instances in Cornwall of stones inscribed with combined British and Roman names, for example the stone at St. Clement, inscribed ISNIOC VITAL: Such combination of British and Roman names carried us back to the very early date when the Romans had not entirely abandoned this country – Some other such instances were mentioned by Dr. BARHAM, especial one at Madron. – Mr. Thomas Kent, of Padstow, member of the British Archaeological Association, had written to Mr. Whitley, that a similar sketch to that now present was communicated by him (Mr. Kent) to MR. Charles Roach Smith, the secretary of the British Archaeological Society, and was published in their journal for March, 1845. Mr. Kent supposed the inscription should be read – “Ulcagnius filius Seceri.” METEOR. – A note was read by Dr. BARHAM from the Rev. T. Phillpotts, of Porthgwidden, giving the following account of the meteor of January last, as seen by Mr. Enys and himself: – “It was, I think, on the 7th of January, and as near as I could note it, thirty-five minutes past four, when we were crossing in a boat from Point to Restronguot, that we were startled by the appearance of a bright stream of light, similar to a falling star, but much larger, and although it was still daylight, very intense. Our position was abreast of the Carnon mine shaft, and the meteor appeared nearly due east. The light was at first very vivid, and in a direct line, marking the rapid fall of some luminous body. This lasted two or three seconds only, and was succeeded by a whitish streak occupying the same position, which gave me the idea of a severance in the cloud by the rapid passage of the meteor. This continued for several minutes, probably eight or ten; It Gradually lost the regularity of its outline, and became somewhat serpentine in its form, which became gradually more and more disturbed, till, as it appeared, the cloud closed together again, and resumed its uniform appearance. It was seen very distinctly by both Mr. Enys and myself, as well as by some of my family who were passing in a carriage by Killiganoon at the time. – Dr. Barham, by means of a map of the South Coast of England, and a diagram by Mr. Rickard of the Mining School, exhibited the bearings as it was stated to have been seen from various places, and deduced that its positions must have been not far from Cherbourg. The point at which it started must have been at an elevation of about sixty miles; it fell about fifteen degrees, and then exploded something like a sky-rocket. The motion of the body lasted only about two seconds, but the train of light remained about fifteen minutes. He then made some observations on the present theory concerning meteors, that they were nebulous matter passing through space, and condensing, with combustion, as they came into our atmosphere. – Mr. HODGE, of the Mining School said, meteoric stones generally, though not always, consist of metallic iron containing nickel diffused through it in a peculirar manner; for bodies of this class when acted upon by nitric aci, which affects the iron more readily than the nickel, leave a porous skeleton of this latter metal, affording evidence that the nickel is not alloyed with the iron, but for the most part diffused through its mass in a regular manner. Now, iron may be prepared in the laboratory in a finely-divided and pyrophoric form, inflaming even at ordinary temperatures, on bringing it in contact with the air. He suggested the possibility that iron, forming, perhaps, at one time, part of the missing planet between Mars and Jupiter, may exist in space in a volatilized condition – that would most probably assume a spongy form, – and that the paricles of the nickel and iron being during this condensation subjected to the magnetic and other influences, might be expected to arrange themselves in a definite manner. A spongy mass of this kind coming into the earth’s atmosphere, would necessarily give rise to the production of heat; sufficient, doubtless, under the circumstances to cause at least its partial fusion. He thought that the cause of the combustion of meteors and the train of light that followed them, might be thus explained; and although it may appear likely that a very considerable proportion of oxide of iron ought to be found in meteorites as the result of such confbustion (paper error), it is surely not impossible, that at so great and elevation, the iron may, as is the case with copper, absorb oxygen at a high, and again give it out at a lower temperature; this sudden disengagement of oxygen in part accounting for the frequent explosions which occur during the passage of these bodies through our atmosphere. This concluded the proceedings of the meeting. Legal Intelligence. EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY (Before Mr. Commissioner Bere.) MONDAY, APRIL 6. REFUSAL TO ANNUL A BANKRUPTCY. Re. J.B. LOCK, of Truro – In this case, Mr. STOGDON appeared for the bankrupt, and Mr. VENN, for the petitioning creditor, Mr. Gard, a merchant at Exeter. The sitting was adjourned from the 29th ult., when it will be remembered an application was made to annul the bankruptcy, – for the production of the books of Mr. James Escott, of Dunster, Somerset, the brother-in-las of Locke, in order to see if they corresponded with the books kept by bankrupt. At former sittings witnesses were examined in support of the application, and to-day the COMMISSIONER, after inspecting the books of the bankrupt and those of Mr. ESCOTT, said he could not annul the petition, and considering the conflicting evidence he declined to give any opinion, as it might prejudice some party if he did so. If was a question, which excited a great deal of suspicion, and the bankrupt, if he pleased, could go before a jury. If the case was heard in a superior Court he (the Commissioner) was sure the Lord Chancellor would say it was a case to go to a jury. Mr. STOGDON said, that being his Honor’s decision the bankrupt would take time to consider what course he would adopt. The COMMISSIONER said, under these circumstances he would suspend the usual advertisement for a week. WEDNESDAY, MAY 7. Re EDWARD ROWE and EDWARD WOES, the younger, stationers, of Penzance. This was sitting for a choice of assignees. Mr. HEAD (of the firm of Head and Venn, solicitors, Exeter,) tendered the following proofs of debts, to the amount of £1,114 1s. 7d., which were admitted. – Messrs. Longman and Co., booksellers, London, £790 8s. 3d.; Thomas Waller and Mary Waller, news-agents, Lilipot Lane, London, £141 19s. 3d.; George B. Kirkman and William Thackray, Doctors’ Commons, London, stationers, £78 11s. 2d.; Thomas Piper, William Stephenson, and Joseph Spence, Paternoster Row, London, booksellers, £36 4s. 4d.; Alexander Cowan and Co., Cannon Street, London, £33 11s. 9d.; David Bogue, Fleet Street, London, bookseller, £22 8s. 1d.; and Edward Butt, bookseller, Paternoster Row, London, £12 18s 9d. Mr HEAD, proposed that Mr. Bevis Ellerby Green, of Paternoster Row, London, (of the firm of Longmans and Co.,) should be chosen assignee, and there being no opposition he was accordingly appointed. Mr. Head afterwards applied for an allowance for the bankrupts; and the official assignee having reported to the Court on the state of the bankrupts’ estate, his HONOR granted an allowance of £2 a week to the father, and£ £1 a week to the son.

On 15 Jun 2012, at 11:50 AM, Julia Hanneman-Schoenbach wrote: > Knowsley Hall shipwreck 1879, off Australia, from Liverpool/London > to Lyttleton > New Zealand > I see the list of names didn't come thru; so here are the > passengers:(snip) > > Lawrence Hargreaves, Eliza Hargreaves, Rose Hargreaves, Euphemia > Hargreaves I wonder if this is any relation of the aeronautical engineer of the same name who used to appear on the Australian $20 note. I found a display of things relating to him in a small Anglican Church somewhere in the Lake District in 1991, from which it appeared that he was quite a pioneer, in several fields, almost up there with Isambard Kingdom Brunel. I sent the vicar of the Church a $20 note when I got back, and she was delighted to add it to the collection. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com

Hi Carol I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she was the actress. Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. Cheers Pat On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which was > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the name > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Julie > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the >> upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne >> Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Julie >> >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall >> >> Now in NSW, Australia >> >> OPC for Redruth >> >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall >> >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ >> >> >> >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Knowsley Hall shipwreck 1879, off Australia, from Liverpool/London to Lyttleton New Zealand I see the list of names didn't come thru; so here are the passengers: Capt. J. N. Jackson, passengers: Mr. Henry Walker, Mr. Henry Stillingfleet, Mr. Herbert Stillingfleet, Mr. Alexis Ball, Miss Jessie Wood, Mr. Richard W. Cross, Mrs. Leigh and infant, Ralph Wilkinson, Maria Wilkinson, Elizabeth Wilkinson, Lucy Wilkinson, William Wilkinson, James Palin, Bernard Connolly, William J. Broadbear, Matilda Broadbear, Ethelinda Broadbear, William Broadbear, Minnie Broadbear, Mary A. Owen, Evans K. Jones, Mary A. Davies, Mary L. Davies, Florence Davies and infant, Lawrence Hargreaves, Eliza Hargreaves, Rose Hargreaves, Euphemia Hargreaves, Alfred Wye, John Davies, Jane Davies, George Davies, George Cheney, Jas. Bragg, Richard Jones, James Penhallagen, Harriet Penhallagen, Rosina Penhallagen, Mary Penhallagen, Susan Penhallagen, John Penhallagen, Elizabeth Penhallagen, Eliza Penhallagen, James Watt, George Barclay, Flora Barclay, Constance Barclay, George Barclay, Charles Barclay, Matilda Barclay, Fredrick Barclay, Joseph Hickney, George H. Hickney, Thomas Howard. Total, 47. Her crew numbered about 50 Julia

Yes, Mr. Pastie owned by the Sleep family is still in business and still keeping up the quality standard, dong a proper job. And I suspect those you ate at Lands End were English imitations, imitatiion like most of what has been slapped up there now. Albert in PA > From: cpolglase@verizon.net > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:59:08 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > I seem to remember eating a great Pasty in Pen Argyl. I hope the eatery or > deli or whatever it was still makes them. The worst pasty I ever sampled > was at Land's End in Cornwall. Go figure. Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Carol > > I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was > definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus her > father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to Delabole > where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the Parish of St.Teath > as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of either her first or > second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she was the actress. Died in > a car accident I believe at a quite young age. > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which > > was settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area > > which is close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I > > think the name may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) > Maryland. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > > > Hi Julie > > > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, > > Pennsylvania which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at > >> the upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera > >> Jane/Jayne Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her > >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the > >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Julie > >> > >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > >> > >> Now in NSW, Australia > >> > >> OPC for Redruth > >> > >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > >> > >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> > >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > >> > >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz

Thanks Ray, Having another look and it seems Thomas H Palmer also came from St Teath, hopefully Harry and Carolyn are still on the list Cheers Julie -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RAY WORDEN Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 5:30 PM To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH] Vera Jayne Palmer/Mansfield Hi Julie, Jayne Mansfield's great-grandparents were Henry Jeffery and Eliza Jane Cowling, both born in St Teath in 1856 & 1857, respectively. The Palmer link (I believe) comes when their daughter Beatrice married a Thomas H Palmer in the USA. If you can get in touch with Harry or Carolyn Bray in Pen Argyl Pa, if they are still on the list,  they can tell you more. Regards, Ray in Delabole Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:48:23 +1000 From: "Julie Wheeler" <jngwheeler@bigpond.com> Subject: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield To: <cornish@rootsweb.com> Cc: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003b01cd49f9$b3000620$19001260$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath,  I can see in the various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? Cheers Julie ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2179 / Virus Database: 2425/5068 - Release Date: 06/13/12

Hi all, I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? Cheers Julie Originally from Camborne, Cornwall Now in NSW, Australia OPC for Redruth President : Southern Sons of Cornwall <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz

Hi Jan, I don't know any meanings of Celtic Symbols, but I did google it and found this web site. www.whats-your-sign.com/celtic-symbol-meanings.html I hope that this might help you. Diane in Wisconsin On 6/14/2012 9:09 AM, Jan Davis wrote: > I am interested in Celtic symbols. I have a couple of necklaces and earring sets with them as the designs but I don't know what they represent. Does somebody know a good reference book or online source that explains what the different designs signify? > Jan in California > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Julie According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? Cheers Pat On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the > upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne Palmer > aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her greatgrandfather was Thomas > Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the various census etc. that it all > appears to fit.but is it true?? > > > > Cheers > > Julie > > Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > > Now in NSW, Australia > > OPC for Redruth > > President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > > <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > > > > Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > > <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have a cousin who is still taking orders for them and making them by hand, up to a few hundred a day. I don't know how she does it, making the dough in batches for 4 pasties. I had a pretty good one in St. Johns Newfoundland, although it was very different from the way we make it around here. Ours is strictly meat, potatoes and onions. It's all in the dough recipe, and using the slate dough board for rolling it out ;) sherri On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Carol Noonan <cpolglase@verizon.net>wrote: > I seem to remember eating a great Pasty in Pen Argyl. I hope the eatery or > deli or whatever it was still makes them. The worst pasty I ever sampled > was at Land's End in Cornwall. Go figure. Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Carol > > I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was > definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus her > father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to Delabole > where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the Parish of > St.Teath > as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of either her first or > second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she was the actress. Died > in > a car accident I believe at a quite young age. > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which > > was settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area > > which is close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I > > think the name may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) > Maryland. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > > > Hi Julie > > > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, > > Pennsylvania which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > > Her father worked in the slate industry. 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I seem to remember eating a great Pasty in Pen Argyl. I hope the eatery or deli or whatever it was still makes them. The worst pasty I ever sampled was at Land's End in Cornwall. Go figure. Carol -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37 AM To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield Hi Carol I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she was the actress. Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. Cheers Pat On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which > was settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area > which is close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I > think the name may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Julie > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, > Pennsylvania which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at >> the upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera >> Jane/Jayne Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Julie >> >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall >> >> Now in NSW, Australia >> >> OPC for Redruth >> >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall >> >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ >> >> >> >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email >> toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you > want, MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to > CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject > line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

some clippings from local papers: By SUSAN KOOMAR Pocono Record Senior Managing Editor April 27, 2008 PEN ARGYL - This Slate Belt town has a buried treasure - literally. Far from Hollywood, Fairview Cemetery sits near ordinary ranch-style homes, slate heaps and a park with a carousel. It's nothing fancy, but that doesn't disappoint fans of glamour goddess Jayne Mansfield. They gathered at her grave on April 19 to observe what would have been her 75th birthday. Flowers - including red roses sent by Mansfield's daughter, "Law & Order" star Mariska Hargitay - adorned the grassy plot and marble heart gravestone. None of Mansfield's family here is still alive. Her aunt died a few years back. But Jayne is not forgotten 41 years after her death in a Louisiana car crash. Admirers, ardent and unabashed, came from New Jersey, Maryland and even North Carolina. They wore Jayne T-shirts and tattoos. One fan even displayed an exotic gold and leopard fur bracelet that belonged to Mansfield. "Jayne would have loved this," said superfan Frank Ferruccio. "She said she always wanted to be remembered like Marilyn (Monroe) was." Mansfield died four years after Monroe. Ferruccio organized the gathering and has been caring for Mansfield's grave since he was 13. He lives in South Plainfield, N.J., about an hour's drive from Pen Argyl. Ferruccio's obsession with Mansfield began when he was a boy watching old movies with his parents. He started collecting movie memorabilia, self-published a book about Mansfield and amassed an array of her costumes, clothes and ornaments from her Hollywood mansion and even her driver's license. Then he bought a cemetery plot so he can be buried near Mansfield when the time comes. "It's a passion," he said. "I want to be up here. I've been coming here my whole life. It's always where I've found peace." Fans at the birthday observance said they love Mansfield - not as the "Poor Man's Marilyn Monroe" - but as a saucy star in her own right who enjoyed fame. While Monroe was fragile and fearful, Mansfield was having a blast with a bodybuilder husband Mickey Hargitay at their lavish playland dubbed the "Pink Palace." Mansfield decorated the mansion with cupids. She swam in a heart-shaped pool and had a fountain that gushed champagne. "She was a fun person. Fun in life. Fun on screen. She died in a tragic way, but she wasn't a victim," said Ferruccio. Hillary Mansfield, a North Carolina fan, changed her name to honor her favorite star. She first saw Mansfield on the cover of the book Hollywood Babylon. "I thought she was the most beautiful creature I ever saw," she said. "In my life, there's been a lot of darkness. She was a constant light." Hillary visits the Mansfield grave at least once a year. Kim Rosenthal is another fan quick to contrast Mansfield favorably with Monroe. "She loved her kids. She loved her fans. She was a genuine person. Marilyn Monroe didn't want fans to touch her," said Rosenthal, of Randallstown, Md. Even in the age of Pamela Anderson and Anna Nicole Smith, fans say there's nobody who can match Jayne. Voluptuous in skimpy gowns, Mansfield had highly publicized wardrobe malfunctions long before Janet Jackson met Justin Timberlake. "Jayne was in control of the joke. She had a wonderful sense of humor about herself," said Hillary Mansfield. Jayne's 75th birthday featured burgers and fries - not pink champagne - at Black's Luncheonette in Pen Argyl. Fans chatted and chowed. Then it was time to admire the flowers on Jayne's grave and pose for photos. Jayne would have loved it. And they'll be back. "Like Marilyn, she died young and beautiful," said Ferruccio. "People wonder what she would be like today." ------------------------------- Jayne Mansfield 1/1/1965 2405:1 Other Sells Pen Argyl property Clippings Jayne Mansfield 7/1/1967 2489:1 Obituary Age 34 Nee Vera Jane Palmer Clippings Bangor Library Clippings, SAT 01 JUL 1967. Funeral for Jayne Mansfield Set For Monday In Pen Argyl. Vera Jayne Palmer, who left Pen Argyl to become famous in the film industry as Jayne Mansfield, will be buried Monday at 2 p.m. in the Fairview Cemtery, southeast of Pen Argyl. The body of the glamourous movie star, who was killed in an auto accident Thursday near New Orleans, LA, was flown today to Newark, NJ, Airport. Attendants of the Pullis Funeral Home, 126 Pennsylvania Ave., Pen Argyl, returned the body to Pen Argyl. Mickey Hargitay, whom Miss Mansfield wed in 1956 and divorced in Mexico in 1963, arrived in Newark by plane and followed the hearse to Pen Argyl. Secrecy Sought. Throughout the community of Pen Argyl, there was an effort to keep the details of the burial secret to prevent crowds. Relatives asked that the service be private and only family members be permitted to attend. Mrs. Clyde Pullis, whose husband will handle funeral arrangements, said they had received orders not to divulge any information. Mrs. Bert Milheim, 115 Schanck Ave., Pen Argyl, also refused to disclose any details. She was the movie star's aunt as a sister of Miss Mansfield's mother, Mrs. Harry L. Peers, Dallas, Tex. Father's Grave. Miss Mansfield will be buried near the graves of her father, Herbert W. Palmer, who was a lawyer in Phillipsburg, her grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Palmer and her great-grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Henry Jeffery on her mother's side. It was reported today that her mother and stepfather are on their way to Pen Argyl to attend the services. Whether or not Miss Mansfield's estranged third husband, Matt Cimbar, will attend was not known. Relatives are expected to stay at Mrs. Millheim's home. Miss Mansfield also had a great-uncle and great-aunt, Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Jackson, 210 N. Robinson Ave., Pen Argyl, and several cousins living in the Pen Argyl area. Dispute Over Body. After Miss Mansfield's death, in which two men traveling with her were also killed and three of her children injured, a dispute developed on who would claim the body. New Orleans Criminal District Court Judge Bernard J. Bagert ruled yesterday that Hargitay was still married to the 34-year-old sex symbol at the time of her death. In ordering Miss Mansfield's body released to Hargitay and her mother, the judge rejected the claim of movie director Cimber, father of Miss Mansfield's year-old son Antonio and generally assumed to be her husband. The judge's ruling was based on an affidavit from Weber, that the divorce the couple obtained in Juarez, Mexico, in 1963 was not valid and that no further divorce had been obtained by either. Lawyer Quoted. But an El Paso, Tex., newspaper quoted Javier Alvarez, Juarez attorney who handled the divorce, as insisting it was legal. "The ruling is absurd and he had no legal grounds to base his ruling," the attorney said. "He had no authority whatsoever to declare the divorce invalid without knowing the facts in the case." Alvarez said he had records showing Hargitay's consent to divorce on April 30, 1963, and that a separate agreement had been signed by the actress. Irwin Boscoe, Cimber's attorney, said they do not recognize Hargitay's claims that the divorce was not final or legal. However, Bosco said Cimber probably would not fight for custody of the body because it "would be an extremely morbid thing." The body of Samuel S. Brody, 48, lawyer killed in the crash, was sent to Los Angeles. It was claimed by Beverly Brody, who had sued him for divorce and named Miss Mansfield as co-respondent. Funeral services for Ronald B. Harrison, 20, a student from Mississippi City, Miss., who was driving the car, were scheduled today in Gulfport, Miss. The 34-year-old Miss Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, PA, a suburb of Philadelphia, but spent most of her early life in Phillipsburg and Pen Argyl. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Sherri LaBar <sherri.labar@gmail.com>wrote: > First husband was Paul J. Mansfield. > > sherri > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Pat Banks <tencreek@tpg.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi Carol >> >> I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was >> definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus >> her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to >> Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the >> Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of >> either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she >> was the actress. Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. >> >> Cheers >> >> Pat >> >> On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: >> > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which >> was >> > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which >> is >> > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the >> name >> > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> > Behalf Of Pat Banks >> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM >> > To: cornish@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield >> > >> > Hi Julie >> > >> > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, >> Pennsylvania >> > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. >> > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection >> > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the >> >> upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne >> >> Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her >> >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the >> >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Julie >> >> >> >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall >> >> >> >> Now in NSW, Australia >> >> >> >> OPC for Redruth >> >> >> >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall >> >> >> >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> >> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven >> >> >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email >> toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. 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First husband was Paul J. Mansfield. sherri On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Pat Banks <tencreek@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi Carol > > I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was > definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district. That, plus > her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to > Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the > Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned.. I think Mansfield was the name of > either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay. Yes she > was the actress. Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which > was > > settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area which is > > close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I think the > name > > may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > > Behalf Of Pat Banks > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > > > Hi Julie > > > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania > > which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > > Her father worked in the slate industry. Ray has given the connection > > with St.Teath which is near Delabole - slate country as I remember? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at the > >> upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera Jane/Jayne > >> Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her > >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath, I can see in the > >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Julie > >> > >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall > >> > >> Now in NSW, Australia > >> > >> OPC for Redruth > >> > >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall > >> > >> <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> > >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven > >> > >> <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz> http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email > toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > > MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > ------------------------------- > > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to > CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to > CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject > line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email > CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.comwith the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The one in Land's End was probably a Ginsters . . . Kitty, in sweltering Northern California --- On Thu, 6/14/12, Carol Noonan <cpolglase@verizon.net> wrote: From: Carol Noonan <cpolglase@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield To: cornish@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 9:59 AM I seem to remember eating a great Pasty in Pen Argyl.  I hope the eatery or deli or whatever it was still makes them.  The worst pasty I ever sampled was at Land's End in Cornwall. Go figure. Carol -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37 AM To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield Hi Carol I thought Bryn Mawr sounded more Welsh than Cornish but Cornish was definitely mentioned in relation to the Pen Argyl district.  That, plus her father being involved with slate quarrying, connects his family to Delabole where there used to be a slate quarry - it's close to the Parish of St.Teath as Ray mentioned..  I think Mansfield was the name of either her first or second husband, another one was Hargitay.  Yes she was the actress.  Died in a car accident I believe at a quite young age. Cheers Pat On 14/06/2012 8:11 PM, Carol Noonan wrote: > Pat: Bryn Mawr is in the "Mainline" area, suburban Philadelphia, which > was settled by the Welsh. It is not very close to the Pen Argyl area > which is close to the Pocono Mts. Are we talking about the actress? I > think the name may be just a stage name. Carol in sunny, warm (not hot) Maryland. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:50 AM > To: cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH] Jayne Mansfield > > Hi Julie > > According to her bio. Jayne Mansfield was born in Bryn Mawr, > Pennsylvania which was in the Cornish area of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania. > Her father worked in the slate industry.   Ray has given the connection > with St.Teath which is near Delabole  - slate country as I remember? > > Cheers > > Pat > > On 14/06/2012 2:48 PM, Julie Wheeler wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am giving a talk about the famous and infamous Cornish people at >> the upcoming Cornish Cultural Celebration and came across Vera >> Jane/Jayne Palmer aka Jayne Mansfield. Has it been proven that her >> greatgrandfather was Thomas Palmer from St Teath,  I can see in the >> various census etc. that it all appears to fit.but is it true?? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Julie >> >> Originally from Camborne, Cornwall >> >> Now in NSW, Australia >> >> OPC for Redruth >> >> President : Southern Sons of Cornwall >> >>    <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ >> >> >> >> Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven >> >>    <http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz>   http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Subscribe to digest by sending an email >> toCORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you > want, MIME digests, emailCORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> Unsubscribe from either by sending an email > toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> toCORNISH-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to > CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject > line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. 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