Again the dreaded word 'spam' appears on my sendings of the transcriptions and the BMDs are failing to appear at all. So to get over the problem of sending the transcriptions from the UK, I am having to send the BMDs in two separate lots - i.e. Births first and then Marriages and Deaths. The News also will have to be sent in separate smaller Parts, unless there is a week of very little news, when it can be send in its entirety. I don't believe that the BMDs for the 20th June 1856 got through, so will be sending them next which will complete June 1856. Cheers, Isabel. West Briton Transcribers.

have you tried contacting the OPC to see if they have access to the actual record and if so, could they send you an attachment of it? I have contacted other OPC and they were very happy to help me with that. Or if you really want a government copy, you could order the cert. from GRO. All you would need is the year, vol., page and dist. which is very easy to find since you already have most of the information. Diane in Wisconsin On 7/30/2012 2:25 AM, Denis Edwards wrote: > Hi All, > > I am trying to look at the orriginal parish record for a marriage between > JAMES DAVIES and ELIZABETH EDWARDS took place 23 oct 1855 > registration district CHASEWATER bride and groom state residence as Kenwyn > the transcript appears on the Online Parish Clerks website but i can't find the parish record on Familysearch > have tried > Kenwyn > St Agnes > and > Kea > any other suggestions greatfully accepted > cheers > denis edwards > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, I am trying to look at the orriginal parish record for a marriage between JAMES DAVIES and ELIZABETH EDWARDS took place 23 oct 1855 registration district CHASEWATER bride and groom state residence as Kenwyn the transcript appears on the Online Parish Clerks website but i can't find the parish record on Familysearch have tried Kenwyn St Agnes and Kea any other suggestions greatfully accepted cheers denis edwards

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 27th June, 1856. Part 2. THE MILITIA - It appears from a parliamentary return, that the Royal Cornwall and Devon Miners Artillery, the South Devon, and the Devon Artillery regiments were amongst the thirty-three regiments of English militia who volunteered for service abroad during the late war. FOWEY - This port was inspected on Tuesday last, by Rear-Admiral SAURIN, one of the Commissioners of her Majesty's Customs, accompanied by his Secretary, J. SMITH, Esq. ROYAL ARTILLERY - Among the late brevet promotions we observe the name of Captain SHADWELL MORLEY GRYLLS, of the Royal Artillery, to be Major. This officer has been appointed adjutant to the artillery at present at Constantinople. A WARNING TO WIFE BEATERS - On Friday last, WILLIAM DUNSTONE, a broom-maker, at Penzance, was charged before the Mayor and Mr. BATTEN, magistrate, with ill-using his wife. On Thursday night, at eleven o'clock, the screams of a woman were head at Marine Terrace and Chyandour Cliff, which proceeded from JANE DUNSTONE, who lives at Causeway Head. Her husband had struck her violently on the back, and then grasped her by the throat, when she was rescued by police constable HILL. She has been the mother of eleven children, who all died young, and it is stated that Dunstone has frequently struck her to the ground and greatly ill-used her. For his savage brutality, he was committed to the borough gaol for one month. OUTRAGEOUS CONDUCT - On Monday last, the Redruth cricket club went to St. Columb to play a match with the club at that town, in which they came off the victors. They returned late at night, in a four-horse omnibus, and entered Truro about midnight, shouting, and making a great noise. The omnibus stopped at the Royal Hotel, to feed the horses, and during their stay in the town, either some of the members of the club, or persons who accompanied them, behaved in a disorderly manner in the streets; in consequence of which they were remonstrated with by Mr. NASH, police superintendent, and told that if they did not conduct themselves better, they would be locked up on the station-house. After this, they remained tolerably quiet until the departure of the omnibus, about a quarter before one in the morning. There were about eighteen or twenty, some riding on the top of the omnibus and others inside; and as they proceeded through Daniell Street, some of the parties conducted themselves in a most discreditable manner, by throwing things into the windows. They broke in this way the bed-room windows of eleven houses, by throwing in ornamental shells and a small image, such as are placed on mantel-pieces, pence and half-pence, a small lump of lead ore, &c. The fragments of glass were knocked all over the beds, and the lead ore fell very near a sleeping infant. In another part of the street they tried to break down the sign of Mr. UREN, painter, with some branches of trees they carried on the top of the omnibus. The inhabitants of the small horses in that street, who are mostly poor labouring men, could not get down to avenge themselves for this wilful damage of their property, until the omnibus had gone beyond their reach; but on Wednesday last they applied to the magistrates, and in consequence Mr. Nash went to Redruth, and summoned eight of the delinquents to answer for their misconduct before the magistrates at Truro on Saturday next. TRURO POLICE - On Wednesday last, ELISHA RANDLE, beershop keeper, Kenwyn Street, was summoned before the magistrates for having his house open for the sale of beer, on Saturday night last, at twenty-five minutes to twelve o'clock, when he ought to have closed at eleven. He pleaded guilty, and it being his first offence, he was cautioned by the magistrates, and the case was dismissed on paying expenses. CHARGE OF ASSAULT AND ROBBERY - On the 16th inst., WILLIAM ROBINS, a mason, was charged before Mr. CHILDS, Mayor of Liskeard, and Messrs. ANSTIS and JONES, borough magistrates, with robbing and assaulting JOHN STEED, on Saturday the 7th inst., at Moorswater. Steed and his brother were leaving the inn at Moorswater, when they were followed and knocked down by the prisoner, who beat John Steed when on the ground. Steed's brother stated that after being knocked down, he crawled away on his hands and knees, fearing what the prisoner, and some men who were with him, might do to him. He afterwards returned and found his brother lying on the ground insensible, and almost all his money gone. It appeared that John Steed had received some violent blows on the head, and was in a precarious condition. There was conflicting evidence, however, in the case, and the magistrates considered there was no proof of robbery, but they committed the prisoner for trial at the quarter sessions for the assault. DARING ROBBERY - On Saturday morning, the 14th instant, about two o'clock the house of Mr. ROBERT KEAST, of Trevaul, St. Neot was broken into, and a box stolen which contained silver teaspoons, three silver watches, a five pound note, silver and copper coins, notes of hand, and other articles. The old man and his niece were alone in the house. The men who entered had their faces covered; one of them held Mr. Keast, another held his niece; and the third walked off with the box. NARROW ESCAPE FROM SHIPWRECK - The "Germania," from Cork to Weymouth, with the 1st Devon Militia on board, after remaining off the Land's End in a thick fog for twenty consecutive hours, ignorant of her exact position, suddenly, on the afternoon of the 13th, found herself on the rocks at Sennen Cove, Land's End, and was in imminent danger of being lost with her freight of

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 27th June, 1856. EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY - Thursday, June 19. Re: J. B. LOCKE, tailor and draper, of Truro. This was a meeting for last examination. Mr. VENN, (of the firm of HEAD and VENN, solicitors, Exeter,) appeared for Mr. E. GARD, wholesale draper, Exeter, a large creditor; and Mr. STOGDON supported the bankrupt. It will be recollected that an application was made to this court by Mr. Stogdon, in April last, to annul the bankruptcy, which was opposed by Mr. Venn, on behalf of Mr. Gard, the petitioning creditor. The Commissioner subsequently decided not to annul the bankruptcy, and during the examination of the bankrupt some curious facts were elicited. It was stated that a fire had occurred on the bankrupt's premises, and that he obtained from the Phoenix Insurance Office, from GBP200 to GBP300 as compensation for the damage. Of this amount GBP200 was placed in the bank, and the remainder was paid to creditors. Shortly afterwards, Mr. BOUTCHER, the traveller for Mr. Gard, called on the bankrupt for an order, and to enable him to meet a bill of Mr. Gard's then due, the bankrupt stated at the meeting in April, that he drew out the money from the bank - GBP5 in gold and GBP195 in notes; but that on arriving home he discovered that he had lost the notes. Steps were taken to recover them, but without success. The bankrupt then went to Dunster, in Somerset, as he alleged, to borrow money of his brother-in-law, Mr. JAMES ESCOTT, who was then a creditor (according to the bankrupt's statement) for GBP200 under a note of hand, and Mr. Escott then promised to lend him more money. It was contended by Mr. Venn that the representations made by the bankrupt in respect to his dealings with his brother-in-law, were not correct, and the matter stood over for some time. Today, Mr. Venn applied to the Commissioner for an adjournment of the last examination, in order that time might be given for the production of Mr. Escott from Dunster, with the view to ascertain from him some particulars relative to the note-of-hand for GBP200. Since the last meeting, he (Mr. Venn) had been given to understand that a proposal had been made for a composition, but it had gone off. He contended that the matter of the GBP200 ought to be inquired into, for it was not in any way explained as yet; but if the composition was offered and accepted, he should be inclined to let the matter drop. He had heard that the amount of composition offered was 7s. 6d. in the GBP. Mr. Stogdon would like Mr. Venn to prove that assertion. The Commissioner said they were not going into that matter now; the question before him was, whether the examination should be adjourned to bring Mr. Escott down. Mr. Stogdon said he must repudiate any offer of the kind. Mr. Venn, had had an offer made him before the bankruptcy; but no offer had been made since. The bankruptcy messenger was in possession of the estate, and for what purpose the sale of the stock was delayed he was at a loss to know. Mr. Venn replied that Mr. Gard had taken the matter into his own hands, and the creditors preferred that the case should be thoroughly investigated. The Commissioner said he would take the case any day in the following week, provided there was no charge made on the estate for the expenses of the present hearing. Mr. Venn assented, and Wednesday was fixed for examining Mr. Escott. Mr. Stogdon then applied to the Commissioner to grant a sum for the bankrupt's maintenance. The Commissioner said he could not accede to the application, fir he did not know but what the bankrupt was now in possession of all the notes which he said had been lost. Mr. Stogdon replied that the court had no evidence before it to fix that upon the bankrupt; and, surely, a man was entitled to be maintained, however unworthy his actions might be said to be. He felt bound to press the application to the court, as the bankrupt had had the whole of his property taken from him. The Commissioner said all the creditors agreed with him. Mr. Stogdon - This it is your duty to send the bankrupt to prison. The Commissioner - No, it is not. Mr. Stogdon said that all he asked for was a week's maintenance, and coach hire from Truro, which had been incurred in attending that court. He had no idea the case was to have been adjourned. The Commissioner said he was of opinion that the bankrupt had full means of maintaining himself; and until the fact of the loss had been cleared up, no maintenance ought to be allowed out of the estate. Mr. Stogdon wanted to know how the bankrupt was to come to this court again, as he had the means of knowing that the expense which had been incurred in his journey from Cornwall on this occasion had been defrayed by his friends. The Commissioner - I can make no allowance. The subject was then dropped, and the court proceeded with the next case. COURT OF THE ARCHDEACONRY OF CORNWALL - On Monday last, Mr. EDWARD GIDDY TREMBATH, the parish clerk of St. Mary's Chapel at Penzance, in obedience to a citation, appeared before the Venerable Archdeacon PHILLPOTTS, at St. Mary's School-room, Truro, to answer the complaint of the Rev. HENRY BATTEN, the perpetual curate of St. Mary's, Penzance, and Mr. SAMUEL YORK, the warden of the same chapel, for alleged drunkenness, misconduct in his office, and neglect of his duties; and to show cause why he (Mr. Trembath) should not be "removed, or suspended from his office, or otherwise dealt with according to law," under the provisions of the Act 7th and 8th Victoria, entitled "An Act for the better regulating the offices of lecturers and parish clerks." The case was one of some novelty, there having been only one of the same kind prior thereto brought before the Archdeacon. The complainant, Mr. Batten, was represented by Mr. REGINALD ROGERS, as proctor; the defendant by Mr. GILBERT HAMLEY, proctor. Complainant's attorneys were Messrs. RODD, DARKE, and CORNISH, of Penzance, and Mr. Cornish was present in court. Defendant had no attorney. At the opening of the proceedings, Mr. Hamley, defendant's proctor, said he observed that neither of the complainants was present, and he asked the Court to adjourn the case, and cite them to appear. He said if he had thought they would not have been present, he should have subpoenaed them to attend. Mr. Rogers, (complainants' proctor) replied that he had thought it better they should not be present, Mr. Batten having had personal altercations with the defendant. He thought Mr. Hamley should have given him notice if he wished to examine complainants, and then they should have been present. The Archdeacon said he thought Mr. Hamley, if he rested his case on complainants as witnesses, ought to have subpoenaed them, He did not see, however, that their presence was absolutely necessary, and the case must proceed. The Deputy-Registrar of the Court, Mr. PRESTON WALLIS, then read the charge against the defendant, and asked what was his answer to it. The defendant replied that he was not guilty. The following was the complaint: - "To the Venerable the Archdeacon of Cornwall, - The information and complaint of the undersigned, the Rev. Henry Batten, perpetual curate of the chapelry of St. Mary's, at Penzance, in the county of Cornwall, and Samuel York, the warden for the time being of the chapel aforesaid, - sheweth, - That Edward Giddy Trembath, of Penzance aforesaid, hath been for many years past, and now is, a person holding and exercising the office of a clerk of the chapelry or chapel of St. Mary's, in Penzance aforesaid. That your complainants have been informed, and believe, that for a considerable period now last past, the said Edward Giddy Trembath hath been guilty of habitual drunkenness, hath misconducted himself in his said office of clerk, and hath brought great and public scandal upon the church; and particularly that during the year 1855, and the present year, the said Edward Giddy Trembath hath frequented certain public houses in Penzance aforesaid, and elsewhere within the county and archdeaconry of Cornwall, and in particular certain inns in Penzance aforesaid called the Star Inn, the Railway Hotel, the Three Tuns Hotel, the Turk's Head Inn, and the Glob Hotel; and at divers times, and on divers occasions during such years, and particularly during the months of June, July, August, September, October, November, and December, 1855, and the months of January and February last, hath in such inns drunk to such excess, that as well whilst at such inns as on leaving the same, and passing through the streets of Penzance aforesaid, he hath been publicly seen by the police of Penzance aforesaid, and divers other persons. That such habitual drunkenness so affected the body and mind of the said Edward Giddy Trembath, as to have superinduced in him, in the months of December and February now last, attacks of delirium tremens, and also to have urged him, in the month of February now last, to an attempt to commit suicide, and to have produced other evil results, to the manifest and notorious scandal of the church, of his office, and of himself, and to the inevitable neglect of his duties as such clerk as aforesaid. Wherefore your informants submit that the said Edward Giddy Trembath is no longer a fit and proper person to hold the exercise his office aforesaid, and pray that your Reverence will be pleased to take all such processes and premises as may be necessary to the vacating of the said office. Signed at Penzance, this 20th day of May, 1856, Henry Batten, Samuel York." Mr. Rogers then said, he appeared on behalf of the complainants, and it was with considerable pain Mr. Batten had felt himself bound to take this course, in order to remove Mr. Trembath from his office; but there had been so much neglect and misconduct in his duty, that he was totally unable to go on with him as clerk. He believed Mr. Trembath had been a highly respectable man, and had fulfilled his duties up to a certain time in a perfectly worthy manner; but unfortunately, from certain causes, six or eight months ago, he took to a habit of drinking, and had carried it to some excess, through which he was unable to perform his duties. He might say that there was no personal feeling whatever in the present proceedings, though there was certainly a strong feeling in Penzance as to the impropriety of Mr. Trembath's conduct, and in consequence of that, mainly, Mr. Batten had thought it necessary to institute these proceedings. He need not say that it was always a very difficult matter to give direct proof of drunkenness, but he should be able to prove that Mr. Trembath had been in the habit of drinking at several of the inns at Penzance, and that in several instances he had been seen drunk in the streets. Mr. Rogers then called and examined the following witnesses:- Red. EDWARD MOORE, curate, of St. Mary's Chapel, Penzance; JOHN OLDS, police-superintendent at Penzance; GEORGE [P...?], landlord of the Star Inn; JOHN WALLISH, landlord of the Globe; WILLIAM CUDLIP PENNINGTON, clerk to Messrs. Rodd, Darke, and Cornish, solicitors for complainant; JAMES RICHARD QUICK, surgeon, at Penzance; JOHN [TH......?] MILLETT, surgeon, at Penzance; and RICHARD [QUI.....?] COUCH, surgeon at Penzance. Mr. Hamley, defendant's proctor, cross-examined the witnesses, and their testimony extended to considerable length. It is impossible, with our space so much occupied by other matters, that we can afford room for the details of the evidence, the main points of which sufficiently appear in the addresses of the proctors and the judgment of the Archdeacon at the close of the case. At the conclusion of the evidence for complainants, Mr. Hamley addressed the court on behalf of defendant. He said he could not but feel that he had a most anxious duty to perform, in appearing there on behalf of a person, who he should be able to prove, had up to this time borne a most excellent and irreproachable character, but who, he was instructed to say, had been so persecuted and ill-treated by his clergyman, that he had been driven, on occasions, to a state bordering on insanity. Mr. Trembath was appointed parish clerk of St. Mary's, Penzance, in 1837. He served at first under the Rev. Mr. VYVYAN, and afterwards under the Rev. Mr. SHUTTLEWORTH, up to 1849, and he gave great satisfaction to both those gentlemen. The latter gentleman, on leaving Penzance, presented Mr. Trembath with a slight testimonial for his conduct, in the shape of a very handsomely bound edition of Hooker's works. He was at that time the national schoolmaster, and at the present time he holds the position of a schoolmaster; and when he (Mr. Hamley) stated that Mr. Trembath has at the present time sixty or seventy pupils under his care, it would be seen that he could scarcely be considered in Penzance, a habitual drunkard. He was appointed, as before stated, parish clerk in 1837; he took the office very reluctantly, and there was never the slightest insinuation against his character until November, 1854, when he received a letter from Mr. Batten, saying that he must be prepared to leave the national school at the following Lady-day. He wrote a most respectful letter to Mr. Batten, asking the reason. The reply of Mr. Batten alleged as reasons a general want of confidence, and dishonesty in Mr. Trembath having received fees and not handed them over to him. Mr. Trembath felt very much on this account, and applied to a neighbouring clergyman for advice how to act under the circumstance. He was advised to throw himself under the protection of the bishop. He did so, and his lordship referred him to the archdeacon, and at the visitation court before the last, at Penzance, Mr. Trembath made a statement, in which he complained that he had been called a thief, and a liar, and accused of dishonesty; but as the archdeacon had no jurisdiction in the matter, he was obliged to seek his remedy in another court. He (Mr. Hamley) should prove that on the evening previous to the attack of delirium tremens which had been spoken of, Mr. Trembath took but one glass of wine, though he was much pressed to take more by the comptroller of the customs at Penzance, who saw how weak and ill he was at the time, and how much he required it. He spoke that evening of the great ill-treatment he had received from Mr. Batten, and the persecutions he had met with; he was in a state of great mental depression, and after some time he was prevailed upon to take only one glass of wine. He should call witnesses to speak to the high character of Mr. Trembath. He (Mr. Hamley) believed that he possess, at the present time, a most irreproachable character in Penzance; and he hoped, when the Archdeacon had heard the evidence he should produce, he would be of opinion that the complainants had failed to prove their charges, either of habitual drunkenness or neglect of duty. The witnesses then called for the defendant were, the defendant himself, Edward Giddy Trembath; WILLIAM SMITH, who succeeded defendant as master of the national school at Lady-day 1855, and continued master till Lady-day 1856; JOSEPH BARRETT, comptroller of customs at Penzance; CORDELIA SMART, an assistant with Mrs. Trembath; HONOR [?] CHIRGWIN, servant with Mr. Trembath; WILLIAM CRADOCK, auctioneer at Penzance; SARAH JUST, who keeps the Turk's Head Inn; and ALEXANDER POOLEY, of Penzance. Two or three of these witnesses had been subpoenaed by the complainants; they were not called on their side, and the defendant called them in order to show that they had never seen him intoxicated. Though we cannot give the details of the evidence, a few points may be here mentioned. Complainant's proctor was not allowed to give evidence as to any reports about Mr. Trembath, to show that a public scandal had arisen as stated in the complaint; nor was defendant's proctor permitted to elicit statements with regard to Mr. Batten's alleged persecution or ill-treatment of Mr. Trembath. When any questions having that bearing were put, they were objected to by complainant's proctor, and disallowed by the court, the Archdeacon stating that the evidence must be confined to the subject of drunkenness and neglect of duties. The evidence altogether failed to show that defendant had ever been seen drinking to excess in public houses; the landlords who were called testified on the contrary. The instances in which he was stated to have been seen intoxicated in the streets on certain evenings, occurred between September or October and January or February last. All the witnesses who were asked this question, replied that they did not consider defendant to be an habitual drunkard. With regard to the alleged attack of delirium tremens, - the first occurring in December according to evidence, as an attack of syncope or fainting fits. The second case was in February, when it was alleged in the complaint that defendant had attempted suicide. It appeared that defendant had cut his write and when in a raving state, uttered exclamations, such as "they, or you, have driven me made, they had murdered me." Defendant said his illness was occasioned by agitation of mind, caused by ill-treatment, and he cut his wrist to relieve his head. It appeared from the evidence of Mr. Quick, surgeon, that the cut was a slight on, wounding the radial artery, and that if defendant intended suicide, he would most likely have opened a larger vessel. The surgeons, Mr. Quick and Mr. Millett, considered the delirium tremens might arise from mental excitement, and nervous depression caused by continued anxiety and grief, as well as from drinking. They had seen, however, very few cases. Mr. Couch, who had seen a great many cases in London, was of opinion that although delirium tremens, was not evidence of habitual drinking, it was of previous drinking. He had know Mr. Trembath ten or twelve years, and in common with other witness on both sides, he spoke of his exceedingly good character. He said he did not consider him an habitual drunkard. He was a highly respectable man, and he should think one of the best schoolmasters and disciplinarians in the neighbourhood. Mr. Rogers cross-examined defendant's witnesses, and at the conclusion of their evidence replied on the whole case, submitting that he had proved some neglect of duties on the part of the defendant, in his office of parish clerk; and that although he had not proved drunkenness in public houses, he had produced testimony to show that defendant had been seen on several occasions drunk in the street. He also, with the view of confirming the charge of habitual drunkenness, commented on the evidence with regard to defendant's attack of delirium tremens, and submitted, from the evidence of Mr. Couch, who had had more experience in such cases than the other surgeons who had been examined that the predisposing cause of delirium tremens was drunkenness, though excitement and agitation of mind might be the ultimate cause. He apprehended that he had produced sufficient evidence to show that the defendant had been guilty of misconduct, and was an unfit and improper person to hold or exercise the office of parish clerk. The Archdeacon, in delivering judgment said, - This is a very painful case; when I consider the number of years that Mr. Trembath has borne an exceedingly good character, I feel great difficulty in dealing with it. Now with regard to the omission of attendance at church, it is certainly the duty of a parish clerk to attend on all occasions when the church is open; yet there appears to have been a short of understanding to allow defendant, as he kept a school, to be absent at times. Whether he went beyond the fair number of times that he might be supposed from the duties of his school to be absent, does not very clearly appear; so I shall pass over that part of the charge. Then I come to the charge of habitual drunkenness. There has been a great deal of evidence on the point. Persons have said they never saw Mr. Trembath drunk; but, after all, that is mere negative evidence, and I think can hardly be allowed to weigh against the three witnesses who have spoken so very distinctly as to having seen him positively in a state of intoxication, - Mr. Olds, the policeman, in the evenings three times in the streets, and Mr. Pennington also three times, and once an excessively bad case. Thirdly, Mr. Couch saw him once, and all those persons gave their evidence in a very plain and straightforward way, and they are persons whose testimony I don't know that I can for a moment doubt. The only evidence that goes against theirs is that of the maid servant, who said she never saw Mr. Trembath in a state of intoxication, thought she has seen him come home every night. Still, I do not think her single evidence can weigh against those three witnesses as to so many cases. Then comes the evidence as to delirium tremens, which appears certainly to be, in almost all cases, and, as far as I can see, in this case, to be the result of habitual drinking. On the whole, thought it is very painful for me to have to give a decision against Mr. Trembath, I cannot make up my mind to pass the matter over altogether. However, I take into consideration his good character for so many years, and also his good conduct for the last three months, and this leads me to hope that he may be reclaimed from any bad habits which he may have got into, and that his conduct was rather a temporary outbreak, owing to an excited state of mind, which it appears on all sides he was subject to at that time. I shall therefore simply suspend him for six months, ab hoc officio et beneficio. And before he be reinstated in his office, I think it necessary he should bring a certificate of good conduct from one or other of the ministers. I mention one or other, because it appears he has had some difference with the perpetual curate, Mr. Batten, and perhaps he might prefer applying to another minister, - and also a testimony, a certificate of good conduct from the chapelwarden at Penzance, and I hope and trust this present affair will be a warning to Mr. Trembath, and that he will pass the remainder of his days in that respectable manner in which he passed his former ones before this occurred. Mr. Rogers said he was about to apply for costs, but to show that this was not a vindictive proceeding, he was instructed that Mr. Batten did not wish to press for costs. Mr. HENRY VINCENT - A very uncalled for and abusive attack upon this gentleman appears in the Cornwall Gazette of last week, the object which seems to be to prevent any one from attending the lectures which he proposes to deliver in Truro in a few days. We don't suppose, however, that the public will be deterred by any representations as to Mr. Vincent's character which proceed from so untrustworthy a quarter. Mr. Vincent is an able, eloquent, and we may add perfectly respectable man. His opinions, as is well known, are somewhat extreme. He is an advocate of the charter of teetotalism, of the peace views, and what is probably a worse crime in the eyes of the Gazette, he lectured in favour of the abolition of the Corn Laws. When a young man in his teens, his advocacy of the charter brought him into collision with the government, and he for some indiscretion in his public addresses, was subjected, we believe, to a twelve month's imprisonment. Since then his views, as may well be supposed, have undergone some modification, and though we do not profess any great amount of sympathy with his opinions, we shall be greatly mistaken if his lectures do not afford both instruction and entertainment.

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 20th June, 1856. BIRTHS. At Truro, on the 12th instant, the wife of Mr. JOHN MITCHINSON, seed merchant, a daughter. At Truro, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM CLARK, dairyman, a daughter. At Sheldon Cottage, Perran Wharf, on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. H. C. CARNELL, a daughter. At Penryn, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. ALFRED STEPHENS, draper, &c., a daughter. At Falmouth, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. THOMAS CRISPIN, a daughter. At Penzance, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. JAMES GILBERT, ironfounder, a son. At Tregurtha on Monday last, the widow of Mr. THOMAS DUNSTAN, lately killed at Trenow Mine, a son. At Pendeen Cottage, on the 6th instant, the wife of Capt. WM. EDDY, of Pendeen Consols Mine, a daughter. At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. JAMES BERRIMAN, a son. At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. RICHARD STEVENS, a daughter; the wife of Mr. EDWARD BASSET, a son; the wife of Mr. OLIVER ALLEN, a son; and the wife of Mr. BENJAMIN BARAGWANATH, a son. At Amalebren, in the parish of Towednack, the wife of Mr. ROBERT RICHARDS, a daughter. At St. Just in Penwith, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. GEORGE CHENHALLS, a son. At Redruth, the wife of Mr. F. JONES, a daughter; and the wife of Mr. JAMES DUNCALF, a daughter. At Chacewater, on the 12th instant, the wife of Mr. THOMAS KELLOW, jun., a son; and at Creegbraws, on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. MATTHEW MOYLE, a son. At Tremayne, in the parish of St. Columb Major, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. MEAGOR, a son. At Charlestown, on the 12th instant, the wife of Mr. J. T. R. BEALL, a daughter; and the wife of Mr. WILLIAM BROWN, a daughter; and on Monday last, the wife of Capt. WM. POLGLASS, of the schooner "Jessie," a daughter. At Kinland House, near Bodmin, on Tuesday last, the wife of W. J. LUCAS, Esq., a daughter. At Camelford, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. FRANCIS ROWE, a son; and on Wednesday last, the wife of W. D. KING, Esq., a son. At Lanreath Village, on the 10th instant, the wife of Mr. T. ANDREW, a daughter; the first birth after a marriage of twenty years, Mr. and Mrs. Andrew having been married in 1836. At St. Pinnock Rectory, near Liskeard, on the 6th instant, the wife of the Rev. JAMES RAWLINGS, a son. At Paddington, London, on the 4th instant, the wife of Mr. JEHU WILLS, painter, formerly of Creed, in this county, a son. At Kingsland, London, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. JOSEPH F. POOL, licenced victualler, a daughter. At Llanfyrnack Mine, South Wales, on the 10th instant, the wife of Mr. JOSEPH PERT, resident engineer, and late of Illogan Downs, in this county, a daughter. At Glasgow, on the 12th instant, the wife of WILLIAM MOIR, Esq., a son. At Creggan, county of Armagh, Ireland, on the 9th instant, the wife of Capt. SAMUEL BAILEY, of the Creggan Duff Lead Mines, and formerly of Baldhu, in this county, a daughter. At the Berehaven Mines, county of Cork, Ireland, on the 27th ult., the wife of Captain M. SILVESTER, a son.

It is transcribed as Charor on FreeCen and I think it is proably another way of saying Charwoman.  Fanny is a washerwoman in 1871.  I couldn't find Charor or Churor in any Cornish-English Dictionary.   Regards,   Joy ________________________________ From: Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: Joy Langdon <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>; cornish@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 30 July 2012, 11:08 Subject: Re: [CORNISH] occupation Churor The details are Fanny Turner , aged 65 in 1861 (not 51 as I stated) with daughter Jane aged 20. Lived in Fowey. It is a good clear hand. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Joy Langdon Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:55 AM To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH] occupation Churor It is more likely that it is a mistranscription.  Can you give details and someone may be able to make sense of the original script. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: CORNISH@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 30 July 2012, 10:32 Subject: [CORNISH] occupation Churor I am new to researching in Cornwall and have come across a widow and her unmarried daughter in 1851 giving their occupations as Churor. I have looked through occupation lists and nothing so now I m thinking it is a Cornish word. Could someone throw some light on it please? Thanks Jan ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The details are Fanny Turner , aged 65 in 1861 (not 51 as I stated) with daughter Jane aged 20. Lived in Fowey. It is a good clear hand. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Joy Langdon Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:55 AM To: cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH] occupation Churor It is more likely that it is a mistranscription. Can you give details and someone may be able to make sense of the original script. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: CORNISH@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 30 July 2012, 10:32 Subject: [CORNISH] occupation Churor I am new to researching in Cornwall and have come across a widow and her unmarried daughter in 1851 giving their occupations as Churor. I have looked through occupation lists and nothing so now I m thinking it is a Cornish word. Could someone throw some light on it please? Thanks Jan ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is more likely that it is a mistranscription.  Can you give details and someone may be able to make sense of the original script.   Regards,   Joy ________________________________ From: Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: CORNISH@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 30 July 2012, 10:32 Subject: [CORNISH] occupation Churor I am new to researching in Cornwall and have come across a widow and her unmarried daughter in 1851 giving their occupations as Churor. I have looked through occupation lists and nothing so now I m thinking it is a Cornish word. Could someone throw some light on it please? Thanks Jan ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am new to researching in Cornwall and have come across a widow and her unmarried daughter in 1851 giving their occupations as Churor. I have looked through occupation lists and nothing so now I m thinking it is a Cornish word. Could someone throw some light on it please? Thanks Jan

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 20th June, 1856. NEW YORK MIRROR - [Regrets, but only part of the article is available] .....After picturing the infernal schemes and doings of the whites, and the massacres of Indians, he sums up the bloody and shameful results, and says:- "Such have been the results of one of the most unwise, unnecessary, and extravagant expeditions ever fitted out by the United States, and for no other reason than to plunder the treasury of the United States, and to make political capital for somebody. It could not have been projected for the defence of the inhabitants of Oregon, nor the protection of Oregonians in Washington territory, for none resided there. What then could have been the object? Nothing but a crusade against the Indians, and a longing to enrich the country. If such was not the object, Governor Curry, instead of sending his troops against the Indians in Washington territory, and beyond his jurisdiction, would have sent all of them to Southern Oregon, where the war raged, and nowhere else in his territory. The Oregonians say that the war 'is a godsend to the country.' Speaking of the conduct of the territorial authorities in this matter, General Wool says:- "I regret that I am compelled to say that such conduct is too much encouraged by persons holding high offices under the Government of the United States; and because I have opposed this inhuman and barbarous practice, and the wholesale plundering of the treasury of the United States, which there are no circumstances to justify, I have been denounced by the governors of both territories and the Legislature of Oregon." General Wool declares that the Oregon-Indian war, according to the programme of its authors, will cost the United States from 50,000,000 dollars to 100,000,000 dollars, and imprint on the national escutcheon an indelible bloody infamy. Three-fifths, if not all our Indian wars, have been infamous - tolerable nowhere in the sight of eternal justice. It is evident that there is to be no cessation in the bloody game until the last Indian is destroyed. Hounded from their homes by boastful civilisation in the name of liberty, their bones whiten the surface of a continent; and yet even while they crouch for shelter in the gorges of the mountains, the cry of the white man is "Slay - slay the Indian." ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS - On the 10th instant, among members of the college who having undergone the necessary examinations were admitted licentiates in midwifery, was Mr. JOHN HENRY LUKE, of Stratton. On the 12th inst., Mr. W. G. W. TAYLER [?], of Tywardreath, was admitted to a fellowship of the college. On the 13th inst., amongst those who underwent the necessary examinations and were admitted members of the college, was Mr. THOMAS BOYLE, of Truro, late a pupil with Mr. F. J. SPRY. FALMOUTH POST OFFICE - We understand Mr. NEWBERRY COX, son of Mr. J. D. COX, of Falmouth, has been appointed to the office of Postmaster in that town. TESTIMONIAL TO CAPT. FOX, OF THE SHIP "CHARLES CHALONER." - The ship "Charles Chaloner" belonging to Mr. JOHN GATLEY, of Tresillian, near Truro, sailed some time ago from Truro for Quebec, with many passengers on board from this country; and on her arrival at Quebec, the following very handsome testimonial was received from the passengers by the Captain:- "To Capt. AUGUSTUS FOX, Master of the ship "Charles Chaloner," - We, the undersigned, passengers in the ship "Charles Chaloner," on her last voyage to this port, from Truro, feel it our duty before separating, to tender to you, and through you, to the first officer, Mr. MILLICAN, our most heartfelt thanks for the uniform kindness and attention shewn to us while on board your noble vessel, and for the excellent manner in which we were provided. Every want, every wish of ours, every thing in fact to render the monotony of a sea voyage less irksome was anticipated by you in the desire to make us as comfortable as possible. Believe us, Sir, in our new homes in America, the memory of the pleasant days spent on board your vessel will not easily be forgotten. If it should ever be our fortune again to trust ourselves on the waters of the wide Atlantic, we trust we may always meet with gentlemen as kindly as yourself and the officers under you; and if our voices could only reach our native shore, it would be to advise our friends who intend settling in America, to choose your splendid vessel as the safest and most comfortable mode of conveyance they can find. In conclusion, permit us to wish you and Mr. Millican every happiness and success through life, and with feelings of admiration, mingled with regret at our separation, we subscribe ourselves, yours gratefully, WM. HAMLEY, THOS. BATES, ARTHUR CARKEEK, NICHOLAS GRIEVES, WALTER CURVEATH. On behalf of 128 passengers, by the ship "Charles Chaloner." Quebec, May 27, 1856. THE LATE WRECK OF THE GRIBBON - The Royal National Life Boat Institution have awarded their silver medal to Captain NORCOCK, R.N., and also to HENWOOD and JOHNS, for their gallant conduct in saving the life of the sole survivor of the crew of the ill-fated ship "Endeavour;" and at a meeting of the committee, held on the 5th instant, this special thanks of the institution, inscribed on vellum, were presented to Mr. W. E. GEACH, in appreciation of his valuable service, in causing to be conveyed on a waggon to the scene of the wreck, a boat, hawsers, &c., which were subsequently lowered over the cliff, and made instrumental in the rescue of the survivor of the crew of the ship "Endeavour." TRURO POLICE - On Wednesday last, JOHN McENTEGER, who keeps a beer shop called the Nelson's Arms, Kenwyn Street, was summoned before the magistrates for having his house open, and persons drinking therein, at three o'clock on Sunday morning last. The offence was proved by police constables PRATER and VINCENT. He was cautioned, and fined 20s. and costs. WILLIAM JOHNSON, a travelling musician, who plays the violin at public houses, was charged with having been drunk, and breaking two panes of glass in the house of JAMES ROOKE, innkeeper, St. Austell Street. He was turned out of the house by the landlord, because he was very abusive; he then broke the glass. His excuse to the magistrates was, that he was tipsy and did not know what he was doing. He begged they would be lenient towards him, and having a family, the landlord did not press the charge against him. He was ordered to pay for the damage done, 3s. and 2s. 6d. expenses; and for some other damage he had committed at the police station and the town prison; or, in default of payment, one month's imprisonment. He paid the money, and was discharged. CAUTION TO APPRENTICES - Last week, a lad named COCK of St. Austell, who had been in the Devon and Cornwall Militia, on the regiment being disembodied, returned to his home, when he was recognised by Mr. JOHN MITCHELL, his former master, from whose service he had absconded during his apprenticeship. He was apprehended by the police, and taken before Mr. E. COODE, jun., who dealt with him as leniently as the law would allow, by ordering him to return to his master and serve out his time, or else go to the treadmill. The lad, who had four and a-half years to serve, preferred the former alternative. THE BURGLARIES AT FALMOUTH. - The two brothers, JOSEPH and JOHN BASSET, who ere apprehended as stated in our last paper, for committing burglaries at Falmouth and stealing place and other articles, were charged with the offence on Friday last, before Mr. ENYS, county magistrate, who sat in the Town Hall, Falmouth, which was much crowded on the occasion. They were charged with burglariously entering and stealing from the house of Mrs. RYAN, Berkeley Vale, and from the house of Mr. HALY, at Kimberley Place, in the parish of Falmouth. Witnesses were examined with reference to the circumstances attending each robbery, of which we have already given an account. The articles produced in court were offered for sale at Mrs. REYNOLDS's shop, Old Town Street, Plymouth, and the magistrate complimented Mr. BROWN, who manages Mrs. Reynolds's business, on his conduct in detaining them, and sending for the police. Evidence was given to show that the prisoners had been seen on the road from Falmouth to Truro, and from that to Grampound soon after the robberies. A coast-guardsman called HUGH RENE, said he saw a man pass the prison at Falmouth, about one o'clock in the morning of the 26th (which must have been about the time the burglaries were committed). He thought at the time it was one of the Bassets, but knowing they were transported, and not having heard of their liberation on tickets-of-leave, he could not believe his own eyes. He now believed it was Joseph Basset, who was walking at a slow pace towards the Green Bank; he did not see that he was carrying anything. After the evidence had been given, the prisoners said they had nothing to say; and they were committed, on each charge, to be tried for burglary at the next county assizes. A RUNAWAY HORSE - On Saturday last, as a farmer and his wife, called TREMAIN, of Constantine, were going to Falmouth market, their horse started off near Belmont, and after going about a quarter of a mile, the cart came off the wheels, and Mrs. Tremain was thrown into the road. The farmer held on, and the horse and wheels went down the New Road into the market place; but although it was the busiest time of the day, the moor being crowded, there was only a little boy knocked down, and slightly injured in the arm. The horse and wheels went across the standing and goods of an earthenware vendor, spread out on the ground, and occasioned some damage. The animal then rushed on towards the butter market, but fortunately the posts would not admit of the wheels passing through. The concussion broke one of the wheels, and the harness from the horse and the reins becoming entangled in the horse's legs, he was secured from doing more damage. We understand Mrs. Tremain was much bruised, but her husband escaped with only a slight injury. It is surprising there was so little damage occasioned by the accident. FOUND DEAD - On Friday morning last, the town of Camborne was thrown into a state of excitement by a report that a man had been found suspended to a rope in a cow shed, in a field adjoining Boldevean Lane, near the town. The alarm soon brought a great number of persons to the spot. The body was cut down, and proved to be Mr. BENJAMIN GLASSON, late of the Railway Hotel, Camborne. He was quite dead when discovered, and the body was carried to his house in Fore Street. On Saturday an inquest was held at the Commercial Hotel, when it appeared there was no satisfactory evidence as to the state of his mind when he left the town, and the jury returned a verdict of "found dead." CORONER'S INQUEST - On Tuesday last, an inquest was held (during the temporary absence of Mr. HAMLEY,) by Mr. JOHN CARLYON, county coroner, at St. Blazey, on the body of JAMES STRONGMAN, aged 22 years, who was killed on Monday, in Par Consols Mine, by a hole going off about him as he and his comrade were in the act of tamping in the charge. He was dreadfully mutilated; and his comrade was also very seriously injured in different parts of his body, and lies, we understand, in a very precarious state. Verdict, "accidental death." EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY - Re: ROWE and SON, booksellers and stationers, Penzance. This was an adjourned meeting for the last examination. It will be remembered that at the previous meeting an account was demanded by the attorney who appeared for Messrs. LONGMAN and CO., publishers, of London, who are large creditors, and the last examination was adjourned for its production. Mr. VENN, (of the firm of HEAD and VENN, Solicitors, Exeter,) who appeared for Messrs. Longman and other creditors, said the account furnished was satisfactory, and the court allowed the bankrupts to pass. The balance sheet commenced on the 31st of December, 1851, and concluded at the date of the petition, April 8, 1856. On the debtor side of the account were debts owing, for which no consideration had been given, GBP102. 10s.; amount proveable by creditors holding mortgages, &c., GBP1,278. 0s. 1d.; all other debts, GBP2,360. 19s. 10d. Profits of business in each year on goods actually sold, - 1852, GBP1,135. 12s. 2d.; 1853, GBP1,380. 17s. 9d.; 1854, GBP1,515. 7s. 6d.; 1855, GBP1,344. 6s. 10d.; 1856, GBP337. 6s. Total GBP5, 713. 10. 3d. Cost price of goods sold, GBP4,760. 16s. 8d. Profit thereon at 20 per cent., GBP952. 3s. 4d. Commission on London newspapers, &c., GBP29. 13s. 11d.; son's board, for 3 1/4 years, at 6s. per week, GBP50. 14s.; policy of insurance taken credit for in property sheet, GBP60. Total, GBP4,834. 1s. 2d. On the credit side, were the following items; - Debts owing for which no consideration has been given, GBP102. 10s.; deficiency at commencement, GBP442. 18s. 5d.; goods debts, GBP363. 19s. 3d.; bad GBP53. 15s. 7d. Total GBP417. 14s. 10d.; excess of cost price of property mortgaged or pledged, &c., GBP1,160.; all other property, GBP502. 5s. 6d.; losses, GBP114. 8s. 5d.; trade expenses, GBP635. 0s. 4d.; household expenses, GBP888. 6s. 3d.; interest, GBP513. 18s. 10d.; law charges, GBP56. 8s. 11d.; difference, 9s. 8d. Total, GBP4,834. 1s 2d. The cause of bankruptcy was stated to be want of capital. Among the creditors are Mr. J. JAMES, Penzance, GBP23. 15s. 10d.; Mr. P. POPE, Falmouth, GBP11. 3s.; Rev. R. SCURRAH, Penzance, GBP102. 10s; Mr. G. WEARNE, Penzance, GBP5. 6s. 1d.; Mr. H. WILDMAN, Hayle, GBP5. 2s. 4d.; Mr. A. C. WILDMAN, Penzance, GBP34. 1s. 9d.; Mr. G. ROWE, Penzance, GBP28. 6s. 7d. Among the creditors on mortgage are Mr. JOSEPH CARNE, Penzance, GBP800, - interest, GBP41. 6s. 3d.; Mr. R. THOMAS, Penzance, GBP275; Mr. J. J. A. BOASE, Penzance, GBP152. 2s. 1d. COUNTY COURTS - Helston - At this court on Monday the 9th instant, the following was amongst the cases for trial:- WILLIAM HARRIS and JEMIMA his wife v. WILLIAM GAY and MARY his wife. Mr. YEWENS appeared for plaintiff; Mr. FREDERICK HILL for defendant. This action was brought to recover the sum of GBP10 as the plaintiff's (Jemima Harris) distribution share under her father's (JAMES DOWNING's) intestacy. The defendant, Mary Gay, was the administratrix. The case was partly heard at the last court, and adjourned for the defendants to deliver a residuary account. The case occupied nearly three hours at the present court. Mr. Hill's defence was that the estate had been fully and properly administered. It appeared that James Downing died in the latter part of the year 1850, leaving four children, and that his widow as allowed by the children to retain possession of a leasehold estate belonging to deceased, and also of the goods and chattels thereon. The widow died in the year 1854, and shortly afterwards the defendant, Mary Gay, administered, sold the estate and effects, and paid a variety of debts. Mr. SIMON KEVERN, Mr. RICHARD TREZISE, and Mr. J. C. JOYCE were examined as to payments made to them by Mary Gay, which Mr. Yewens contended ought not to be allowed, as well as some payments as debts due from the mother. Mr. Hill submitted that the corn and turnips which were sold in 1854 could not be considered as the goods and chattels of the father, and the proceeds were properly applied in satisfaction of the mother's debts, but that independently of that, the estate had been exhausted. His Honor said, after such a lapse of time, it was difficult to say exactly what the father's estate really consisted of, but he considered the defendants had made out a fair account to the plaintiffs' case. Judgment for defendant. Falmouth - At the recent sittings of this Court, the following case was heard, concerning the purchase of a share in South Wheal Frances:- M. J. JACOBS v. S. EDMONDS. Both plaintiff and defendant live at Falmouth, and the action was for recovery from defendant of GBP11. 10s., for cash overpaid to him on a share purchased in South Wheal Frances mine. It appeared that Mr. Edmonds informed Mr. Jacobs that he knew of a share for sale in the mine, price GBP330, but if he wished to have it he must let him (Edmonds) know before post time the next morning. Upon that Mr. Jacobs consented to take the share, provided Mr. Edmonds could not get it for less. In the evening defendant called on Jacobs, and said, I have got the share. Jacobs then asked if he had got it for less. He said he had not, he had a great deal of trouble to get it for that. After some discussion plaintiff gave a cheque for the amount; fur finding afterwards that Edmonds had purchased the share on the same day for GBP317. 10s. and GBP1, paid to a broker, he brought the present action for the recovery of GBP11. 10s. which he considered was an overcharge made on him by the defendant. It was acknowledged that shares in the mine had risen in the market, but this did not apply to the transaction. It was also urged that it was not a broker's matter, but an offer made by one friend to another. On the other hand it was stated that on the plaintiff accusing defendant of charging him more than he gave for the share, he offered to take it back; but plaintiff refused to do so, and brought his action. A variety of evidence was heard on both side, and the Judge gave a verdict for the plaintiff for GBP10, the remaining 30s. being allowed for defendant's expense. Redruth - At this court, held on the 11th and 12th inst., a miner of Camborne, called MOORSHEAD, sued a butcher of the same place, named EDMONDS, for recovery of GBP5, for loss of time and expenses, including doctor's bill, in consequence of an injury sustained by the bit of defendant's dog on the 12th of April. The defence was that the plaintiff was annoying the dog at the time. Witnesses were called to prove the vicious habits of the dog, and the judge gave a verdict for plaintiff for GBP3. 10s. and costs. PEARCE v. TREVASKIS - This was a jury case, in which plaintiff sought to recover from defendant the sum of GBP16. 17s. for wages due to him as a clerk in North Wheal Gilbert, in the parish of St. Erth, at 21s. per month. The jury gave a verdict for plaintiff for GBP13. 12s., allowing GBP3. 5s. the amount of a bill paid Mr. WYATT by defendant at plaintiff's request.

Greetings all Now - this minute - on Channel 9, The Cornish in South Australia. An hour's programme before the repeat of the Olympic Opening Ceremony. Pat

Thank you Andrew a bit more meat for the bones but it's the sort of thing I enjoy learning about. Col

According to Marc Morris' book "Castles" (Pan Macmillan Ltd., London, paperback edition 2004, ISBN 0 330 43246 X), Arundel was built in 1385, following a dispute between Efward Dallingridge and John of Gaunt in 1372. These two were allies to begin with, but Gaunt was a very overbearing landlord with enormous holdings in Sussex, and every move that Dallingridge made to improve his position was foiled by Gaunt., including in his request for "permission to crenellate", while Gaunt built Bodiam castle. So Edward snuggled up to Richard Fitz Alan, Earl of Arundel, whose servant Dallingridge's father had been. The Castle Arundel eventually built was one of those which survived the Commonwealth and the Restoration in the 17th Century, and is still to be seen today. Its acquisition by the Duke of Norfolk came rather later, when restrictions on Roman Catholics were relaxed. Today it has a chapel, called the Fitzalan Chapel, which is used for both Anglican and Roman Catholic services, thus both commemorating the founder and serving the needs of the present owner. There are various theories about the name Arundel but all centre round the river through the town, differeing only on the question of where that name came from. The "del" part is, of course, "Dell" meaning a river valley, similar to "Dales" in Yorkshire.. On 26 Jul 2012, at 5:40 PM, Pat Banks wrote: > Col > > Would someone in the earlier family have worked on the Arundel > estate or > was perhaps in an army unit stationed there? Arundel Castle (which is > in West Sussex, on the River Arun) was rebuilt in 1815 and again > between > 1875 and 1900. It is still the home of the Duke of Norfolk - premier > Duke in England - and dates from the 11th century according to an > article I googled. William the Conqueror wanted fortifications built > around that area because it is the part of England nearest to > France and > he wanted to protect the area from any Saxon uprising! I haven't > heard > of a Cornish connection but there could be a family one. It's not a > common name! > > Pat > > On 26/07/2012 2:19 PM, Col Paterson wrote: >> G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from >> Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is >> a male >> child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. >> Arundel Castle >> is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any >> connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it >> would have >> some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. >> >> What ideas can we come up with? >> >> Orlabest >> >> Col Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com

Thank you all for your informative responses I have enough of an answer to satisfy my curiosity, apparently my question to the list was not perfectly clear in that my interest was in a forename not a surname, but not a prob, as the reply's have certainly covered both instances. I have always found it pays to talk to people who know more than me. Subject closed Orlabest Col

Col Carol Noonan has just emailed me suggesting I 'google' Arundel County in Baltimore, USA. I have done so and it has material that would interest you. The County is named after an Arundel, member of the Arundel family in Cornwall. Cheers Pat On 26/07/2012 2:19 PM, Col Paterson wrote: > G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from > Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is a male > child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. Arundel Castle > is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any > connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it would have > some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. > > What ideas can we come up with? > > Orlabest > > Col > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Col, Could be some sort of attachment to the Arundels of Trerice or Lanherne in Cornwall. However there are people called Arundel as a first name in Phillack as well. Cheers Julie Originally from Camborne, Cornwall Now in NSW, Australia OPC for Redruth President : Southern Sons of Cornwall http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ Cornish Cultural Celebration October 2012 in the Shoalhaven http://tinyurl.com/7n8exxz -----Original Message----- From: cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Col Paterson Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012 4:20 PM To: CORNISH@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH] Meaning attached to name G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is a male child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. Arundel Castle is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it would have some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. What ideas can we come up with? Orlabest Col ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2196 / Virus Database: 2437/5155 - Release Date: 07/25/12

G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is a male child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. Arundel Castle is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it would have some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. What ideas can we come up with? Orlabest Col

Col Would someone in the earlier family have worked on the Arundel estate or was perhaps in an army unit stationed there? Arundel Castle (which is in West Sussex, on the River Arun) was rebuilt in 1815 and again between 1875 and 1900. It is still the home of the Duke of Norfolk - premier Duke in England - and dates from the 11th century according to an article I googled. William the Conqueror wanted fortifications built around that area because it is the part of England nearest to France and he wanted to protect the area from any Saxon uprising! I haven't heard of a Cornish connection but there could be a family one. It's not a common name! Pat On 26/07/2012 2:19 PM, Col Paterson wrote: > G'day all, I have at least 7 generations of a Cornish family from > Perranaworthal they came out here 1845 in each generation there is a male > child named Arundel. In some cases father and son, not all. Arundel Castle > is a restored medieval Norman castle in Suffolk would there be any > connection there? It seems an unusual name, I would guess that it would have > some sort of attachment to something, somewhere or somebody anywhere. > > What ideas can we come up with? > > Orlabest > > Col > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I recently explored the British Newspaper Archive run by British Library looking for sightings of my ancestors and their descendants. I quickly used up the free credits without much of interest but decided to invest £9.95 on a 7 day package which would enable me to search extensively and see scans of 50 to 120 pages depending on the charge for each page. As I got smarter with searching I began to turn up some real gems for people, places and events. The results ranged from the sublime to the ridiculous. William Rodliffe Jr killing three basking adders, one 20 inches long, at St Columb in 1921. Appearance of Richard Rodliff in court at Temple Cloud charged with stealing chisels from his workmates and employer whilst working at Chew Stoke for Bristol Waterworks Company. The crown jewel was a magistrates court appearance by one of my great grandmothers in Northamptonshire which has opened up the possibility that I might at last have found the father of her illegitimate daughter. OCR introduces a lot of gibberish into the searches but the scans are clear enough and a short membership was quite enough for me. Best wishes Stan Rodliffe