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    1. [CORNISH] George White and Ann williams
    2. liz and john
    3. Hi All, I am new to this list and Cornwall research so I am hoping that someone can help me. My great grandfather's Brother George White was born in Great Bentley,Essex in 1821 to William White and Sarah On the 1861 census he is age 40 a Mariner with wife Ann born Constantine, Cornwall and daughter Sarah ann age 5 1871 ann is a widow age 43 and Sarah Ann is 14 I have found Ann on the 1881.1891.1901 In 1911 Ann is 85 her occ is private meand and Old Age Pension.It also says that sh only had 1 child and the child is still living. I found a Death 1922 for Ann White age 95 Falmouth On 'Constantine,Cornwall Family History Society" I found t Parish records for Marriage Banns for George White age 29,Mariner living in Port Navas, Father William White and Ann Williams age 27 living in Port Navas. father Edward Williams I have also found the Marriage in 1879 of John Sims age 31 a miner living in Constantine Father William Sims and Sarah Ann White age 23 Living in Constantine father George White Mariner. I have not been able to find John and Sarah Ann after their marriage in England so decided to look elsewhere and found on the 1900 census John Sims a farrier ? and wife Sarah A living in Texas with 2 children George age 18 a farm labourer and Eilleen age 10 both born in Michigan. with parents born in England. I am hoping that some one on the list knows of this family and whether or not they did go to America as I have not been able to find them on a passenger list.or can direct me as to where I can look. Also I haven't been able to find a death for George White who going by the census died between 1861 and 1871. Has anyone any suggestions as to where I could find his death.If he died at sea are there any local registers of seamen for that period. Thank you for reading all this Regard Liz Maxwell-------Australia

    09/11/2012 12:33:16
    1. [CORNISH] Site for free historical/geological/etc maps
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. Hi All - Perhaps this is only new to me, but the David Rumsey Map Collection is online, and free. The collection of 34,000 maps is mainly focused on North and South America, but has maps from elsewhere (including a map of the heavens created in 1693!). The website has several innovative features which are very, very nice, and it's going to take me a long time to fully explore it. It's at http://www.davidrumsey.com/ Hope this helps someone find a "lost" mine in Mexico or Brazil, or even a house location in New York City, in 1850. Good luck! Cheers, Julia

    09/10/2012 05:43:34
    1. [CORNISH] Cornish Cultural Celebration NSW
    2. Julie Wheeler
    3. Don't forget to book into this great event to be held in the Shoalhaven area of NSW Australia 26-28th October 2012. Guest speakers are coming from Cornwall, NSW and Victoria (even some of our list members!) and for the first time a Cornish Bardic Ceremony will be held in NSW which is very exciting. Take a look at our website to see what's happening and don't hesitiate to contact me for more details http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwheeler/ click on the link for details about the Cornish Cultural Celebration Cheers and hope to see you there Julie OPC Redruth http://shoalhaven.nsw.gov.au/DiscoverShoalhaven.aspx

    09/10/2012 12:21:41
    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 18 July 1856 - News
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER . 18 JULY 1856 . ADVERTISEMENTS . THE ROSELAND OR TREWITHIAN FAIR . WHEREAS this Fair has been mis-stated in the Almanacks and Newspapers, Notice is hereby given that the Roseland Fair will be held on MONDAY the 21st day of July instant, and be continued annually on Tuesday, before the 25th of July. Dated, Trewithian, July 10, 1856 . CAUTION. WHEREAS MRS. MARY ROSKRUGE, my wife, has voluntarily absented herself from my House, situated at Trenevas, in the parish of St. Anthony in Meneage, in Cornwall, I hereby give NOTICE, that any person who may trust her with any necessaries, or goods, or money, will do so at his peril; and that I am not nor will be liable, in any respect, to pay for or repay the same, or to perform any engagement of the said Mary Roskruge. . Dated this 9th Day of July, 1856 CHARLES K. ROSKRUGE Witness – J. G. PLOMER, Solicitor, Helston . PENHERGET WOOD INCLOSURE . I, ROBERT COAD, of the borough of Liskeard, in the county of Cornwall, the Valuer acting in the matter of the Inclosure of Penherget or Common Wood, situate in the parish of Saint Ive, in the county of Cornwall, hereby Gives Notice, that a statement of all Claims received by me in the matter of the said Inclosure has been deposited at the Butchers’ Arms Inn, in the said parish, for the inspection of all persons interested in the said Inclosure. . And I further, Give Notice, that any objection to a Claim must be delivered in writing to me, and a copy of such Objection must also be delivered at the place of abode of the Claimant or his Agent, on or before the Thirteenth day of August next. . LOCAL INTELLIGENCE . CORNWALL SUMMER ASSIZES - The Commission day for these assizes will be Monday the 28th instant. There are at present eighteen prisoners for trial, six of whom, we are sorry to say, are charged with murder, and of the remainder, three have been committed for sacrilege, and several others for serious offences. . BODMIN - On Tuesday last, a tea meeting took place at the Countess of Huntingdon's Chapel, in compliment to the newly elected minister, the Rev. R. LAW; after which a public meeting was held, when several excellent addresses were delivered by Messrs. W. IRELAND, A. MILROY, the Rev. J. HORSEY and others, on the importance of union in the church, love to every denomination of Christians, and the necessity of individual exertion to maintain the stability of every good, liberal, and Christian principle. . FREEMASONRY . The annual meeting of the Freemasons of Cornwall took place at Helston on Tuesday last, when upwards of eighty of the brethren attended, the eleven lodges in the county being represented on the occasion. About half-past ten o'clock, the Lodge was tyled at the Star Hotel, and soon afterwards the procession was formed, and proceeded to Helston Church, the brethren appearing in full Masonic costume, and the various officers wearing their full dress and insignia. At church, the prayers were read by Brother the Rev. W. H. WRIGHT, of Godolphin, and an admirable sermon, inculcating the principles of Freemasonry, was preached by the P.G. Chaplain, Brother the Rev. HENRY GRYLLS, of St. Neot. Brother Grylls, at the request of the Brethren, we understand, intends to have the sermon printed. . After divine service, the procession was re-formed, and returned to the Lodge-room, where the usual business of the province was transacted, and a short address on the tenets of Masonry, and its present state in Cornwall, was delivered by the D.P.G.M. Brother ELLIS, of Falmouth. The different officers were then installed, and invested with the jewels pertaining to their respective offices. The following are the officers for the ensuing year: . P.G.M. Sir Charles Lemon, Bart, M.P. &c &c, of Carclew D.P.G.M. Br. Augustus Smith, of Tresco Abbey, Scilly, No. 415 P.D.P.G.M. and Secretary, Br. John Ellis, of Falmouth P.G. Treasurer, Br. Richard Pearce, of Penzance, No. 142 P.G.S.W. Br. Hender John Molesworth St. Aubyn, of Clowance, No. 569 P.G.J.W. Br. E.S. Polkinghorne, of Penzance, No. 142 P.G. Chaplain, Br. The Rev. H. Grylls, M.A., of St. Neot, No. 413 P.G. Registrar, Br. Edward Trewbody Carlyon, of Truro, No. 415 P.G.D.C. Br. John McFarland Heard, of Truro, No. 415 P.G. Sup. Of Works, Br. C.P. Charlton, of Penzance, No. 142 P.G.S.D., Br. John Borlase, of Castle Horneck, No. 142 P.G.J.D., Br. Francis Trounson, of Penzance, No. 142. P.G. Sword Bearer, Br. Capt. Glynn Grylls, of Bosshan, No. 400 P.G. Organist, Br. J. James, of Helston, No. 400 P.G. Pursuivant, Br. Samuel Harvey, of Truro, Nos. 153 and 415 P.G. Stewards, Brs. Thomas Ellis, of Helston, No. 400, and B. Brokensha, of St. Austell, No. 728 P.P.G. Stewards, Br. W. Michell, of St. Austell, No. 728, and (Acting) Br. T. Mills, of Redruth, No. 850 P.G. Inner Guard, Br. Sergeant-Major Wing, of Truro, No. 153 . The brethren afterwards adjourned to the banquet at the Star Hotel, where an excellent repast was prepared by Br. C.E. Andrew. The D.P.G.M. Br. Augustus Smith occupied the Master's chair, and the other officers held their respective positions. After the removal of the cloth, and the dessert was placed on the table, about 150 ladies were admitted, and partook of wine and dessert with the Brethren. ...[the ladies retired, and toasts ensued; more details in the paper next week.] We may add, however, to our present brief notice, that it was resolved by the Brethren to present to the P.G. Chaplain, Brother the Rev. Henry GRYLLS, a chaplain's jewel, as a mark of the esteem in which he is held by the Brethren of the Province, and for the services he has so long rendered to the Order. . CRICKETING - We understand that efforts are being made by the Redruth Cricket Club to get the eleven of all England to play twenty-two of Cornwall. A meeting took place at Tabb's Hotel on the subject, on Saturday last, and it appears there is every probability that within a few weeks, Cornish players, and those who are admirers of the game, will have an opportunity of witnessing the scientific play of the best cricketers in England. . At Hayle and Penzance also, efforts are being made to obtain a visit from the eleven of all England. Some of the members of the Hayle club have communicated with the secretary of the Mary-le-bone club, and find that the sum they will require to come into this county is GBP 80. . On Tuesday the return match of the Falmouth with the Redruth Juvenile Cricket Club was played at Redruth. The day was fine, and the play exceedingly good. Mr. John TREVENA, as a bowler, certainly deserves great praise, and Mr. J. REYNOLDS kept the wicket admirably; the game ended by the Redruth club winning by 27 runs. . EARLY HARVESTING - A farmer of Rennett, in St. Stephens by St. Austell, commenced harvest last week by cutting a field of wheat, and its yield far exceeds the average crop of last year. . THE POTATO DISEASE - A farmer of St. Stephens in Branwell, tilled about fourteen yards of his kitchen garden to potatoes this year, and on taking them up, about a fortnight since, two-thirds of the produce consisted of diseased potatoes. In many fields in the neighbourhood of St. Stephens Coombe the potatoes are affected by the disease. . CORNWALL COUNTY COURTS - [Falmouth - This court was held on the 5th inst., before Mr. KEKEWICH; 58 cases were entered for trial, the majority settled out of court. Redruth - Mr. BEVAN, the Recorder of Penzance, presided; 80 cases were entered, 35 settled out of court, while the remainder were of no interest to the public.] . FALMOUTH QUARTER SESSIONS Before the Recorder, Mr. BEVAN, and the usual bench of magistrates. SAMUEL BROWN, sailor of Rotterdam, was charged with stealing a watch, the property of Mr. WHEATLEY, watchmaker, to which he pleaded guilty. He was then charged with taking a silver drinking cup from Mr. J.D. GENN, watchmaker, to which he pleaded not guilty. Evidence was given in the case, and the jury found the prisoner guilty. The Recorder sentenced him to three months' imprisonment with hard labour, for each offence. . A man named HENRY ALLEN, of Truro, was charged with stealing a shawl; he plead guilty. He was then indicted for stealing a watch, the property of WILLIAM NEWMAN. The charges were proved, and the prisoner was sentenced to three months' hard labour for each felony. This terminated the business of the sessions. . The Mayor entertained the recorder, town council, and some other gentlemen at the Royal Hotel, where an excellent dinner was provided, and the company enjoyed a pleasant evening. . EXCISE PROSECUTIONS - At a special petty sessions held at the Porcupine Inn, Tywardreath, last week, Mr. J. SPARNALL, of Fowey, was summoned for having on the 13th of March last, let a horse to hire, to Mrs. GILES, which was not included on his license, and for which he had paid no duty, thereby defrauding the inland revenue. . The information was laid by Mr. JOHNSON, an officer of excise, who appeared to prosecute by order of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue. Mr. BISHOP appeared on behalf of the defendant; the evidence was conflicting, and the information was dismissed. . On another charge, however, against the same defendant, for having let to hire three horses more than he paid license for, on the 27th of March, he was found guilty, and fined in the mitigated penalty of GBP25, the full penalty being GBP 100 for each such offence. Mr. SOBEY appeared on behalf of the Crown. . An information has been preferred, at the Torpoint Petty Sessions, by the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, against Mr. KELLOW, a van and omnibus proprietor, for driving one of his vans from Liskeard to Polbathick above four miles an hour. The charge was proved, and defendant fined in the full penalty of GBP 20. On applying to the Bench, they refused to reduce the penalty. . CAMELFORD - A correspondent states that the neighbourhood of Camelford has, for the last twelve months, been greatly annoyed by some fellows working at the Delabole slate quarries, who have committed a series of desperate and ruffianly attacks upon different persons. Not a public meeting of any kind can be held, but they are sure to be present, and to take the opportunity of committing brutal assaults. The magistrates of the neighbourhood should see that these parties are restrained and punished by the strong arm of the law; they should be taught that they incur very severe penalties by the conduct of which they are guilty. There is no charge against the Delabole quarrymen as a body; the aggressors are said to be a few who have organized themselves into a band. . On Thursday the 10th instant, some eight or ten of these ruffians committed an unprovoked and brutal assault in the house of Mr. MARK HAWKEN, innkeeper, Camelford. One fellow, called NETTLE, struck an itinerant artist a heavy blow in the face without the slightest provocation, and on Mrs. Hawken expostulating with him, he threatened to strike her also. . TRURO POLICE - On Friday last, before Mr. NANKIVELL, HENRY COLSTON and THOMAS WEEKES, apprentices to Mr. SALMON, builder, were charged with being disorderly apprentices, and absconding from their master's service. They are young men of about nineteen or twenty; and were both apprehended on warrants. . Mr. Salmon said they had on several occasions absented themselves from their work, which was much to his disadvantage. On the present occasion one of them had gone to Falmouth without leave, and returned the next day, and the other had remained away from his work, and continued about the town. The magistrate told them they had rendered themselves liable to three months' hard labour in the house of correction, to pay all the expenses incurred by their master in bringing them before the bench, and to work out the time they remained in prison, after the expiration of their indentures. . They said they were sorry for what they had done and would promise, if their conduct was now overlooked, to go back to their master's service, and work out the remainder of their apprenticeship in a proper manner. In consideration of this promise, Mr. Salmon withdrew this complaint against them, and they were discharged. . On Monday last, before the Mayor and Capt. KEMPE, John BRAY and Joseph WILLIAMS, both miners, living at Baldhu, were charged with violently assaulting John McENTYRE, a beerhouse keeper in Kenwyn Street; and with assaulting police constables WOOLCOCK and PAPPIN, whilst in the execution of their duty. . On Sunday night last, between nine and ten o'clock, Bray and Williams, who were both somewhat tipsy, went into McEntyre's beershop during the temporary absence of the landlord. They went into the cellar themselves and drew a pint of beer, and a young man called JAMES COX (employed as a drainer at Tregothnan) being in the room with some beer before him, they took up his beer and drank it. He asked them what they did that for, upon which one of them struck him, and gave him a black eye. The landlord came in and remonstrated with them, telling them to leave the house, but instead of complying they knocked him down, and kicked him violently in the chest. He cried "murder," and some of the neighbours came in, who were also attacked and struck by the two miners. . The latter then got into the street, where they were apprehended by WOOLCOCK and PAPPIN, police constables, who were about taking them to the station-house when Bray and Williams (who are wrestlers, and were on their way to the Probus wrestling match) tried to throw the policemen down, and in the struggle Bray nearly tore off the skirt of Woolcock's overcoat. . The prisoners were convicted on these charges; for the assault upon McEntyre, they were each fined 20s. and costs, or fourteen days' hard labour in Bodmin gaol; and for the assault upon the policemen, Bray was fined 50s. and 14s.6d. expenses, and Williams 50s. and 4s.6d. expenses, or in default of payment to be each committed for one month after the expiration of the previous fourteen days' imprisonment. The fines were not paid, and the prisoners have been taken to Bodmin. The other charge against them, for assaulting James Cox, was not proceeded with. . On Monday last, WILLIAM COCK, tinman of Truro, was apprehended under a warrant, for having, on the 5th of April wilfully broken four panes of glass at the house of ANN MOYSTON, in Charles Street. He went to the house at night, but was refused admittance. He abused Moyston, who took up a small fire shovel for defence, and to prevent him from entering. He took the shovel from her and threw it in at the bedroom window, and committed the damage as charged. Cock was ordered to pay for the amount, with expenses, and in default was committed for fourteen days to the house of correction. . FELONY - A tailor called William Pengilly BARNES came to Truro from Penzance about a fortnight since, in search of work, and took lodgings at the house of JOHN SHARMAN, who is in the employ of Messrs. BEALL and PASCOE, coachmakers, and lives in George-street, Truro. He boarded with the family, promising to pay them when he received money for his work. On Thursday morning the 10th inst., he left the house about seven o'clock, and Mrs. Sharman thought he had gone to work, but soon after his departure she missed her husband's watch, which had hung over the fire-place, and going upstairs she found that a black cloth waistcoat, a silk handkerchief, cotton scarf and 2s.7d. in money had been taken away. . Information was given to the police, and Mr. NASH, superintendent, dispatched constable PAPPIN to Falmouth, and PRATER towards St. Austell. When Prater arrived at Probus, he saw the man there, recognizing him from the description which had been given. He took him into custody; the articles above named were found in his possession; they were identified before Mr. Nankivell, borough magistrate, and the prisoner was committed for trial at the assizes. . SMUGGLING - A Spanish seaman, named JUAN BAPTISTA MALL MALLORA, was charged, before Mr. ELLIS, borough magistrate, on Monday last, with having smuggled articles in his possession, consisting of 45 lbs of tobacco, 40 lbs of coffee, and 4 ½ gallons of rum. He was fined GBP 100, and in default of payment to be imprisoned six months in the borough gaol. The brig "Buona Mora" has been placed under detention by the Customs, the second Spanish vessel within a fortnight. . DEATH OF THE HON. and REV. JAMES SOMERS COCKS- We have to record the decease of this clergyman, which took place on Saturday week, at Methen Lodge, in the 67th year of his age. The hon. and rev. gentleman was heir presumptive to his nephew, the present Earl Somers, who has no children. By his death the descendants of Charles, the first lord, by his second wife, ANNE, daughter of the late Right Hon. REGINALD POLE CAREW, of Antony, become next in the succession. . SUDDEN DEATH OF THE REV. W. GILBER - On Sunday morning last, the Rev. W. GILBER, vicar of Gwennap, preached as usual in the parish church, and at the close of the service, it is said he complained to the clerk of a pain in his head. A funeral was to take place in the afternoon, and the bell tolled an unusually long time, but the vicar did not appear. He had retired to his library after dinner, and his daughter went there, when, on opening the door, she was shocked at seeing her father expiring, if not at the time dead. Medical aid was summoned but life was gone. The deceased clergymen was greatly respected and beloved by his parishioners. . ACCIDENTS - On the 9th instant, as Mr. THOMA DUNSTAN, of Trecombe, in Constantine, was returning from Falmouth in his gig, he stopped the horse to put on his overcoat. The reins got loose, and fell down about the horse's legs, when he set off at a furious rate, and Mr. Dunstan being frightened, jumped out, and broke both bones of his right leg, near the ancle. . At Drakewalls Mine, Calstock, on the 10th instant, the boiler of the fire engine burst with a tremendous explosion; the effect of which destroyed the boiler house, and wounded several boys, one of whom, RICHARD PEARDON, died in a few hours, and another lies in a dangerous state. Several men and boys had a very narrow escape. . A BODY WASHED ASHORE - On Thursday the 10th instant, while some young persons were pleasure-taking at Porth Towan, they discovered something floating on the surface of the water near the shore, which on examination proved to be the body of a man. To all appearances he could not have been long in the water, as the corpse was not quite cold, and fresh blood was oozing from a wound in the side of the face and head. Whether he fell from the cliff, or received a blow from another person, it is impossible to determine. He was seen by a man early in the morning walking towards the cliff, but nothing appears to have been seen or heard of him from that time. . He seems to be a man of about sixty years of age, was dressed in an alpaca coat, cloth waistcoat, and fustian trowsers, he had grey whiskers, and hair nearly white, and little in quantity. A coroner's inquest has been held on the body, but he has not been identified by any one. He had in his pockets 1s.1d., a tobacco box, and the fragments of a letter, the purport of which seems to be demanding the payment of money borrowed some time since from a person at Penzance. . We have since received another account as follows: On Thursday afternoon last, there was found floating on the water at Towan Porth, in St. Agnes parish, a man of about sixty years of age, who was soon brought to shore, dead, when his pockets were searched, and found to contain a tobacco box, spectacles, and case, one shilling, and two halfpence, and also a letter dated the 3rd ult., from Mr. KEVERN, of Penzance, demanding the payment of a dishonoured bill. . The following is an extract of a letter received by Mr. GOYNE, jun., St. Agnes, from Mr. Kevern: Your letter of the 11th instant came to hand late to-night; from the description you give of the person washed on shore yesterday. I believe him to be John HARVEY, of Mousehole, in the parish of Paul. I wrote him on the 3rd ult., demanding payment of a dishonoured bill. I have been informed that he left his house a fortnight ago, and has not been heard of since. I have this moment called on his two daughters, who reside in this town, and they believe the person you speak of to be their father. They will leave here to-morrow morning early to go to St. Agnes, to view the body of the deceased. . Our correspondent states that some years since, Harvey was a very respectable man, but unfortunately, through habits of intemperance, he became reduced in circumstances. It is the general opinion that he destroyed himself, and that he was not in the water many hours. . CORONER'S INQUEST - On Saturday last, an inquest was held at Towan Porth, in the parish of Illogan, on the body of a man found on the beach there, of the age, it was supposed, of about 60 years. The details of this occurrence are given in the preceding paragraph. The body could not be identified by any person present, and the jury returned a verdict of "found dead, supposed to have been accidentally drowned." . The coroner states that he has since seen Mr. Kevern, and by comparing the paper and writing found in the deceased's pocket with a letter of the same date copied into his, Kevern's, letter book and addressed to Capt. John HARVEY, has ascertained, he should say beyond any doubt, that the body found was that of a person belonging to Newlyn in Paul, commonly known as Capt. Jack Harvey. He afterwards called on some daughters of Capt. Harvey, in Penzance, who said their father had been missing since last Saturday fortnight, and from the description they had of the body picked up, and of the dress thereon, they had no doubt that it was their father. The End

    09/09/2012 08:05:51
    1. [CORNISH] List of mines in Cornwall
    2. Many thanks to Joy for posting the link to mines in Cornwall. Meli

    09/09/2012 07:01:23
    1. Re: [CORNISH] Names of mines near Illogan and Nance Farm
    2. Joy Langdon
    3. There is a list of mines at Illogan here: http://www.cornwallinfocus.co.uk/history/mining5.php Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: "melibob4@texasbb.com" <melibob4@texasbb.com> To: CORNISH@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012, 16:25 Subject: [CORNISH] Names of mines near Illogan and Nance Farm Hello, Dear Ones, My Hugh Phillips, bapt 1812, Illogan,  and migrated to Wisconsin 1842, was a miner and lived at the Nance Farm and in Illogan in the 1820s and 1830s.  He moved to Bere Ferris (a variety of spellings), Devon sometime around 1837 or 1838.  Does anyone know what the names of the mines were near Nance Farm (Portreath) and Illogan back then that he might have worked in?  Thanks for any leads.  Meli in Texas ------------------------------- Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text.  If you want, MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2012 07:00:26
    1. [CORNISH] Names of mines near Illogan and Nance Farm
    2. Hello, Dear Ones, My Hugh Phillips, bapt 1812, Illogan, and migrated to Wisconsin 1842, was a miner and lived at the Nance Farm and in Illogan in the 1820s and 1830s. He moved to Bere Ferris (a variety of spellings), Devon sometime around 1837 or 1838. Does anyone know what the names of the mines were near Nance Farm (Portreath) and Illogan back then that he might have worked in? Thanks for any leads. Meli in Texas

    09/07/2012 04:25:49
    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 18 July 1856 - Rating of Mines- part 3 of 3
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. Here's the opposite side of the question... . . WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 18 July, 1856 - part 3 of 3 . RATING OF MINES TO THE POOR [testimony before a Committee of Parliament, regarding rating of mines to aid the poor] . [Dates and amounts mentioned below which do not seem to be logical are as written...] . . Mr. R. TAYLOR, farmer and lime-burner at Liskeard, said he resided at St. Cleer. Among the mines in the parish were South Caradon, West Caradon, Gonamena, and Craddock Moor. None of these pay poor rates. . South Caradon was rated in 1838, and continued to pay rates until January, 1854, when the adventurers objected to pay, and obtained a new deed, with the dues reserved in money. After this, Mr. MORRIS, the lord, agreed with the parishioners to make a payment in lieu of rates. The annual payment was to be GBP 150. This they received for two or three years, when it was reduced to GBP 100, and subsequently continued to decline, until it was reduced to GBP 40. . In 1849, the parish authorities waited on Mr. Morris, for the purpose of obtaining an increase, but he would not consent, and they determined to rate the mines, and the case was taken to the Quarter Sessions; but though it was proposed to compromise the matter, nothing was done. He did not know the amount of ore sold by this mine, but should say the profits were about GBP 80,000. The lord received about GBP 2,400 a year for his dues. West Caradon paid rates from 1840 to last year, when they were discontinued. They paid until the meeting at Truro, which Mr. CROUCH, the purser, attended. Since that they had ceased to pay. The meeting was in favour of rating mines, with the dues as the basis. He did not know Mr. Crouch's views, but thought he was opposed to rating. . After they declined to pay the rates, he understood a new sett was made, in which the lord had a share. He considered that mines were a great evil to the farmers in the neighbourhood in which they were situated. A friend of his valued his farm as worth GBP50 a year less now than prior to mining, because his orchard was robbed. . . The mining absorbed about one-third of the weekly parish pay. Out of GBP 6.9s.4d. paid in a week, GBP2.5s.1d. was received by miners. Independent of that, it cost them a considerable sum yearly for the removal of the mining poor. Their attorney's bill averaged about GBP 50 per year, and one year the entire of it was paid for this purpose alone. He had spoken to one of the South Caradon miners respecting the doctor and club, who assured him that allowance was not made to the sick, but only in case of accident. . . He was a guardian of the poor many years ago, but was superannuated now. He did not think that the farmer received the slightest benefit from the mines, as the prices were governed by the Devonport and other large markets. . In St. Cleer, the miller, butcher, and general shopkeeper were benefited. He considered it a great hardship that mines were excluded. The miners themselves complained, as they built houses, and had to borrow money, which they had to pay in a certain time, and they were frequently inclined to sell their property. They took leases for ninety-nine and sixty-six years. . No doubt in some cases the farmers were benefited when carts were employed, but generally they gained nothing, and were very much annoyed. The miners were a very independent set, and thought they had a right to go over any-ones ground. They were the greatest evil to the farmer in the centre of a mining district. The farmers generally were very much aggrieved that mines did not pay rates. He believed every farmer in the parish would sign a petition in favour of mines paying rates. . The working miners suffered themselves in having to pay the rate, and those in St. Cleer were truly sensible of it. He knew two who refused to sign the petition from South Caradon against rating. He considered mining to be a curse to the farmer in the centre of a mining district. Had granted setts, and was tolerably well acquainted with mining. Thought his dues were reserved in money, but did not interfere, however, but left that to the lawyer. He had never received any dues, or should have been glad to pay a rate on them. He had received a benefit from mines by carrying their produce on the canal, but not as a farmer. . The ore at South Caradon was carried by rail, and the principal mines had railways running up to them. As to rating, he would impose it upon the lord. With regard to existing leases, it would only be fair to the county that some one should pay. If setts were taken by adventurers with the understanding that they should pay, they ought, as the mining population were an expense to the ratepayers. . SEVENTH DAY - Tuesday July 8 . The Committee resumed the examination of witnesses. The evidence of Mr. SAWLE, M.P. for Bodmin; and Mr. BOGER, of Devonport, concluded the case of Cornwall and Devon, (with the exception of that of Mr. Thomas FIELD), and that from Derbyshire was commenced. . MR. SAWLE, M.P. for Bodmin, stated that he resided in Cornwall, was a Cornish magistrate, and Deputy-Chairman of the Quarter Sessions. Now lived in Bodmin, but formerly resided in St. Austell. Whilst there, acted as a magistrate of the district, and was now a magistrate at Bodmin. He had great experience in the large mining district. . He knew the Restormel Iron Mine. It was a very large one, and about a quarter of a mile from his house. A great number of accidents happened at the mine in consequence of the frequency of what are called "runs". . He had heard the evidence given to the effect that the clubs paid the expenses, and heard the statement with a great deal of surprise, as he knew that in Lanlivery district miners have large families, and they were thrown upon the parish. The mine was formerly rated, but did not continue the rate, and, knowing they could [not] compel them to pay, they attempted to rate the railway, but the proceedings were quashed. . He knew, as a visitor to the Bodmin Union, that many miners' wives and families applied to the parish for assistance. He recollected perfectly well that there was a large number of miners, when the mines were stopped, in 1847, owing to a great scarcity, and a diminution in the price of iron, who were thrown upon the Union, and it became a serious question whether or not they would have to take them into the Union. A loan was applied for to relieve them, which was never repaid, and the whole of the burthen fell upon the parish. He thought that the opinion of Professor SMYTH on this subject was based upon a want of experience in the district, as he presumed he merely visited it occasionally. . When application was made to the Union, they attempted to ascertain the amount of the club money before giving relief, and it was never found in Lanlivery to meet the requirements of the poor miners; and he was certain this parish would be much better without the mines than with them. His experience of St. Austell was the same. . Whenever there was any depreciation or when tributers took bad pitches, they were constantly applying to the parish. So when the miner left to seek work elsewhere, his wife and family remained, and the parish had to support them. With regard to agriculturist, there was no doubt he reaped a benefit when mines were in full operation, but when there was any depreciation he suffered considerably. . By the Chairman - His opinion was that dues ought to be rated. His father's setts were formerly reserved in kind. With regard to Fowey Consols, he thought a recent change had taken place, and that the dues were now reserved in money, but could not say positively. He did not see why mines should not be rated; and in rating them he went on the principle that the landlord who received the dues was the occupier, whether reserved in money or kind; therefore, he would rate the lord, not the adventurer. In his own mind, he could not conceive why the royalty should not be rated. The mine he had spoken of had caused a great deal of pauperism, and he should say it had done so since the famine. . He had heard some of the evidence with respect to the parish of St. Agnes; there a great deal of common land had been built upon by cottagers, and when the mines were active they were very happy. There were about 2,000 in St. Austell whose assessments were under GBP 5; and he had sat on the bench when from 300 to 400 were summoned for the non-payment of rates. . He considered that the rates in agricultural parishes were lower than the mining. The hundred was altogether lower than any in the kingdom. Still mines brought their bitters as well as their sweets. . It was true the miners were a migratory population, but he was sorry to say that they too often left their families behind them, not certainly for any time, but some of them went to Cuba, Australia, and other parts, and then their families were a burthen for months, and even years, together. It was an exceedingly difficult matter to catch the miners, as many of them went to Wales. Those who emigrated were constantly returning. . By the Chairman - He would only rate the dues. If they took the question of rating profits they would then have to go to the growing of crops, cattle, and other produce. . MR BOGER, of Plympton, said he was a resident in Cornwall, had mining property of his own, and represented very large property for other parties in Cornwall and Devon. . The mines with which he was connected were among the most profitable in both counties, and were making large returns. He was not prepared to state the value of the property he represented, as it was so very large. He had had the control of it for thirty years, and there was no deed of any kind executed that he did not look through. The number of leases granted were to the extent of several hundreds. For years scarcely a week passed without their receiving applications for leases, but he did not say they were all granted. . After the granting of a lease he was in constant communication with the parties to it, and, as far as experience went, he was in a position to give and opinion on the subject of rating. . Some twenty years ago some alterations were made with respect to the clause for evading the poor-rate, by which the lord not only reserved the dues entirely clear and exempt from rating changes, but the leases contained a covenant on the part of the miner, that he would pay all taxes charged; the reservation was not only free and clear, but the lessee was bound to pay any taxes which might hereafter arise. In drawing these setts he did not find parties cavil, or make any objection to the clause, and he only knew of two instances in which it was proposed to alter the reservation of dues. . However, the reservation was made, he considered the lessee would stand in the same position, in consequence of the clause in the leases. . He considered that the rating of mines would not have the slightest effect either on legitimate or illegitimate speculation. He based this opinion upon calculations, and considered that the increase of the rate would be something less than 1d. per ton upon the ore raised. He assumed that the poor rate was 2s.6d. in the Pound, and that the average price of copper was GBP 6 in the ton, the dues upon which were 1-15th, or 8s. per ton. . Mr. Boger here entered into a complex calculation, the items of which we could not catch, but by which he attempted to show that the poor-rate upon the above basis, would not exceed 1d. in the Pound, and contended that no rate of dues would affect legitimate mining, as they would be so small in calculating the contribution to the rate. He was acquainted with some of the largest mines, and considered that when mines ceased to work the burthen was very heavy. . Taking the three largest districts, he did not think the rentals were increased by working the mines. There was very little difference in the rates when the mines were at work. He could illustrate the manner in which they were affected. . In the parish of Beerferris, the legal expenses for removals amounted to about GBP 3 per head, and the mines did not pay to the maintenance of the poor. Therefore, the rate-payers considered it a very great hardship on them.The agriculturists, as a body, were not anxious to have mines in their neighbourhood. The farmers were only benefited to the extent of saving the amount of carriage of the produce to market, as the commons being built upon, it was consumed by the occupiers. The parishioners were the ratepayers and not the miners, and it was unfair that they should support the mining poor, as the amount of benefit received by them was so small that it had no relation to the poverty. . He considered that the lessee of the mine ought to pay the rate, because the law rated the occupier and not the landlord. In existing contracts he would divide the charge between the lessee and the lessor, on the same principle as in Ireland. . With regard to the removal of the poor, the expense was not confined to the removal alone, but extended to other charges. The average sickness of miners, as compared with other inhabitants, was as three to one, and in accidents as two to one. The clubs contributed to miners in case of accident, and not for the wear and tear of the system; and it must not be forgotten that miners were subject to a disease something like consumption, which was called the miners' disease. . By the Chairman - The property he represented comprised Tamar Mines, East Tamar, South Tamar, Tavy Consols, Bottle Hill, Wheal Sidney, Wheal Friendship, Wheal Jewel, Old Wheal Jewel, Combe Martin Consols, in Devon; and Par Consols, Polgooth, Crinnis, South Crinnis, Wheal Regent, Treviskey, Carvannal, and Ting-tang in Cornwall. Also interested in Wheal Exmouth and Adams, Porkellis United, Par Consols, and Treviskey. . He never had but one share in a mine as an adventurer. He was aware that mining was attended with great risk and hazard, and that they employed the labouring poor extensively. In his experience the rates of parishes had not materially decreased. There was no appreciable [...] reference. . Mr. Boger was further examined by the committee at some length, on the character and habits of working miners, whom he characterized as a very diligent and religiously disposed body. In reference to [...] timber, he said he thought the succession duty was sufficient burthen on that. He thought the adventurers should be rated in conformity with the law of England. Whilst, on the other hand, it would be exceedingly difficult to find the owner of the dues in some cases. He knew that in Par Consols, the purser held GBP 1,700 in dues, in consequence of the difficulty, owing to some dispute, of [finding] the lord. . [Mr. Boger then revised his testimony regarding his calculations regarding the amount per ton paid towards the rate, which had been in error. Captain S. Seccombe was called to elucidate it. Capt. Seccombe and Mr. Boger then withdrew.] . [Testimony was resumed with Sir J. PAXTON, of Derbyshire, agent to the Duke of Devonshire. Basically, he held that the whole of the dues on mines were rated for the poor, the highway, and the tithes; but the dues depend upon the will of the lessor. In almost every case, miners petitioned the Duke to reduce their dues; in almost every case, the dues were reduced by one-third. The same with tithes. He also stated "the customs of Derbyshire were very different to those in Cornwall. They did not grant leases in Derbyshire, and the miners could go wherever they liked to search for ore. The bar-master was appointed to see to the dues and "..." out the customs, and his duty was to see that justice was done to the lord and the miner. ... The only men who did any good in Derbyshire [in mining] were small miners, and the difficulty would be in collecting a rate from them.] . Any body could open a mine any where they pleased, and had only to buy a pick and shovel to begin. They had the power to go in front of your house and dig, but they must go to the bar master. It was, however, a very rare occurrence that anything of the kind was done. The mining population were a very quiet race of people, and had no disposition to annoy others. Although they had the power, they really did not use it. . At the conclusion of this evidence, the committee adjourned until Friday. . . END

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    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 18 July 1856 - Part 2 of 3 - Poor Rates & Mines - Liskeard, St. Cleer etc.
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. Here's the second part of 3 - 18 JULY 1856 RATING OF MINES TO THE POOR [testimony before a Committee of Parliament, regarding rating of mines to aid the poor] . . [Captain S. SECCOMBE then testified -] . He was a mine agent in the neighbourhood of Liskeard, in East Cornwall, which was now a large mining district. Some called it a new district; but, many years ago, there was an extensive mine worked by Messrs. WILLIAMS, which returned considerable profits. There was also one which was said to have been worked about two hundred years since. . He was manager of the Phoenix Mines, in Linkinhorne, which were formerly worked in part as the Cornwall Great United, and the Clannacomb, Linkinhorne, and other names. It was now a considerable mine. . They had sunk 173 fathoms below the adit, which was 14 fathoms from surface, and employed 257 persons at surface and underground. It was now a dividend-paying mine, and had been for about four years. In the new working they had expended GBP 91,000, and returned ore to the amount of GBP 112,000, on which they had to pay 1-18th dues; with the exception of a short period, when the mine was so very poor that the lord gave up the dues until they were in a position to pay them. The royalty was included in the item GBP 91,000. . He had had the management of the mine for the last seventeen years. The loss on the old Linkinhorne was between GBP 40,000 and GBP 50,000. They made a profit on the Phoenix Mine, which was the difference between GBP 91,000 expended and GBP 112,000 returned. Some ore was raised under the old working, but they did not get any copper until 100 fathoms below the adit; whilst for some portion of the sinking they paid as much as GBP 50 per fathom. The profits on last year's workings were about GBP 8,000. The Prince of Wales was the lord. . They had not paid any rates since he had been on the mine, but the parish attempted to rate them at GBP 400. The case was carried to the Petty Sessions at Launceston, and from thence to the Session at Bodmin, where the rate was quashed. In trying the question the parish spend from GBP 90 to GBP 100, which might have been saved had they taken the trouble to ascertain their dues were in money payment. . The highway returns for the parish of Linkinhorne, from lady-day 1838 to lady-day 1839, showed the total receipts to be GBP 281.18s.1d, and the disbursements GBP 300.8s.5 1/2 d.; whilst in 1855-6, the receipts were GBP 231.17s.8 1/2d., against GBP 213.2s. expended. They had a railway to the mine but the highway rate was much the same. There were complaints at first from the other ratepayers because they paid the mine labourers 2s. per day, whilst others only paid 1s.6d. . He considered that, taken as a whole, mining up to a certain point fully compensated for the non-payment of rates, as mines had their doctor and club; whilst a great number of miners were rated on their tenements. Nearly every cottage paid a rate which was at one time GBP 1 and then GBP 2; whilst the number of cottages rated increased from 95 in 1842, to 280 in 1856, which were rated at GBP 3. They also employed some of the superfluous labour of the district, many of their labourers being farmers' sons. He thought that mines up to a certain time maintained the whole of their poor. They paid them 1s. per day each during the whole of the time they were sick, and when mines were abandoned the miners find their way to other districts. There was no instance in the district of miners applying to the parish. [See 2nd paragraph below, when he changed his statement.] . Miners were a class of men who, if they found they could get higher wages in other districts, left them at the end of their contract. They employed in the mine persons whose ages ranged from seven years to seventy. . He had seen some who had applied for relief, but the poor miners did not become chargeable to the parish to a greater amount than they had contributed; as, whenever they could, they purchased, and built, cottages, or made some other provisions for old age. He considered that the number of miners who did so were more than 12 per cent of the mining population. They would, he thought, average more than that in Calstock, Linkinhorne, St. Cleer, and St. Ive. . His experience was chiefly in the eastern part of the county. He was forty-six years of age, and had been employed thirty-seven years in mines, beginning at the lowest stage. He considered that there were no losses sustained in this district in maintaining the mining poor, for when mines commenced, cottage property, than rated at GBP 1, had since gone on increasing to GBP 3. . Both the large and small farmers gained by the working of the mines. The former found it very convenient to receive the charge for horse hire monthly, and the latter felt the increased demand for cattle. The consumption of animal food in the parish was now from eight to ten times what it formerly was. As far as he knew, the parishioners were convinced that they received a benefit from the mines. . He knew St. Cleer well, and had lived in the adjoining neighbourhood for seventeen years. There the poor-rate in1837 was 2s. in One Pound. . In 1838, 2.6d. 1839, 2s.9d. 1840, 3s. 1841, 3s.3d. 1842, 2s.3d. 1843, 2s.5d. 1844, 2s.4d. 1845, 2s. 1846, 2s.3d. 1847, 1s. 1848, 6d. 1849, 6d. 1850, 7d. 1851, 6d. 1852, 6d. 1853, 8d. 1854, 1s3d. 1855, 10d. . According to these figures, it would be seen that the rates had not increased since the mines have been discovered, but have, on the average, decreased. The average amount collected in the Pound for poor-rates, for seven years ending 1843, was 2s.6 3/4d.; for seven years ending 1855, 2s.3d. in the Pound; showing a saving of 3 ¾ d. in the Pound. . In the highway rate this is more apparent. The average for seven years ending 1844 is 1s.10d.; and for seven years ending 1855, only 8 1/4d. in the Pound, being a decrease of 1s.1 3/4d. in the Pound, notwithstanding the increase of population, which, according to the census of 1841, was 1,412 against 2,343 in 1851, which gives an increase in ten years of 931. [West Caradon [mine] paid from the doctor and club fund a total of GBP 659.16s.3d. to the relief of the miners in the town of St. Cleer, in four years, ending Midsummer, 1856.] . The church-town of St. Cleer, which formerly, in 1835, consisted of a few labourers' cottages and poorhouse for the reception of the poor, is now a village of considerable importance, and numbering a great many dwellings, grocers' and drapers' shops, and can boast of its post-office, and of a market-day, held on Fridays. There are, besides, two other villages sprung up at Crow's Nest and Tremar, which also boasted of good dwelling houses and shops. Two bullocks are killed weekly in the parish, besides sheep, &c. The greater portion, however, of the inhabitants attend the Liskeard market. The average decrease of the rate in the seven years ending 1855, was 3 ¾ d. on the poor, and 1s. 1 3/4d. on the highway rate. . In the first period, ending in 1843, St. Cleer was not considered a mining parish. To show the extent of benefit received from mining in this district, he would mention that West Caradon, in the fifteen years from its commencement, had expended in labour GBP 246,700 6s. 11d and in materials, coal, timber, iron, & c., GBP 104,682.8s.5d. The amount of wages paid to labourers at the West Caradon, Gonamena and Craddock Moor, in the parish of St. Cleer, of which Mr. CROUCH was purser, is about GBP 2,500 per month; South Caradon paid about GBP 1,800 per month, and other smaller mines GBP 500, making together GBP 4,800 or GBP 1,200 per week. . In Menheniot, the amount of wages paid at Mary Ann Mine per month is GBP 1,000; Wheal Trelawny, GBP 1,080, and Trewetha, GBP 350 - together, GBP 2,430 per month. . The general statement of the parish of Linkinhorne of the poor-rate showed that the rate from lady-day, 1842-3, was 2s.10d; 1843-4, 2s.8d; 1844-5, 2.10d; 1845-6, 2s.6d.; 1846-7, 2s.11d.; 1847-8, 3s.7d.; 1848-9, 3s.4d.; 1849-50, 2s.8d.; 1850-1, 3s.6d.; 1851-2, 3s.3d.; 1852-3, 2s.4d.; 1853-4, 2s.4d.; 1854-5, 2s.3d.; showing a decrease in the amount of rating. . There had been in that time an increase in the average rate of assessment. The number of cottages in 1842, assessed at an average of GBP 1, were 95; in 185, 160 at GBP 2; and in 1856, 280, at an average of GBP 3, although all have taken the benefit of compounding. This increase he attributed to the mining adventurers entirely. . In the borough of Liskeard, the average amount of the poor-rate for the seven years ending lady-day 1841, was about 3s.9d. in the pound. Whilst in the seven years ending lady-day 1856, the average was 2s.10d, showing a decrease of 11d. in the pound. A rate at 4d. in the pound will realize about GBP 30; and this decrease, therefore, would show a saving of about GBP 330 per annum. The gross estimated rental in 1835 was 4,768, the rateable value in the same year GBP2,682. The gross estimated rental in 1856 is GBP 9,440.7s.6d., and its rateable value GBP 6,949.13s.2d. There could be no doubt of the fact that property in Liskeard borough had doubled since 1835 in value. . There were scarcely any mines in the parish, but it was surrounded by them in St. Cleer, St. Ive, and Menheniot; but the decrease in the rates was attributable to the mines. The rate has been revised, but there has not been a general valuation since 1835. The population in 1841 was 3,002, and in 1851, 4,386, giving an increase of 1,384. There was also a proportionate increase in the consumption in that period. The number of bullocks killed and brought to Liskeard in 1835 were 6 ½ per week. In 1856, the average number per week is 34; sheep and pigs have likewise increased to the same ratio; the present number of sheep killed being about fifty a week. . By the Committee - The effect of the stoppage of the mines would not be felt as a burthen, as the miners would find their way off to some other district. As to a general depression of mines, it was an event which had never occurred. . Some of the guardians of their parish were opposed to the rating of mines; others were in favour of the rate. He had attended both the meetings at Truro. Capital to the amount of fully GBP 1,000,000 was represented at the last. It was, with two exceptions (Mr. DARKE, of Penzance, the drawer of the bill, and some overseer), unanimously of opinion that mines should not be rated. . By the Chairman - The doctor and club allowance continued until the man was enabled to resume his work, or the mine was abandoned. At the Phoenix Mines they commenced their club on a small scale in 1846. [details of receipts through 1855 followed.] The allowances included surgeon in sickness. Many miners were also connected with benefit societies, from which they received in sickness certain advantages. He did not think that mines did any injury to the agriculturists, and they ought not to be taxed. . Most of the capital expended in them came from London, but there were no labourers sent with it. If mine adventurers at a distance sunk GBP 100,000 in a district, he could not conceive that they ought to be taxed. Whenever a new mine was opened the population to work it came from parishes in the county. . The club fund was supported by voluntary contributions. It was not in the nature of a friendly society. The miner knew by the rules of the mine that he was entitled to relief from the club so long as he is incapable of working. . At the Phoenix Mine, about a fortnight since, two working miners met with injuries through premature blasting, by which one became totally, and the other partially, blind, and as long as he lived he would receive relief. . It was the practice of miners to make some provision against age or accident. This was especially the case among tributers, whose pitches often turned out better than they expected; and he had known one who got so much as GBP 200 as his share in two months. The first thing he did, when he got his money, was to obtain a piece of ground, and by building on it was the means of increasing the towns and villages. He had not given any attention to the subject as to whether the area of settlement should be extended. . They kept a separate book for the doctor and club, and had now a surplus balance of GBP 118.7s.5d. If the mine were abandoned they would continue to pay. There were variations in different mines as to this point, but it was their intention to continue the payments. He was not aware that when a mine broke up, the balance was carried to the adventurers if there were men on the club. . By the Committee - There was a great difference in mines giving employment to the poor of the county, without importing a number of poor into Cornwall to work the. Liskeard was a large town, and some miners resided there. A few of the mine agents had built houses in the town. The houses now built were better than before; but a considerable portion of them were built by the general inhabitants of Liskeard. The business of the town had greatly increased, and there were shops in it now with plate-glass fronts, which could scarcely boast of a square of glass a few years ago. He believed a petition had been presented from the guardians of Liskeard in favour of the rate, which was carried by a majority of only one. . The parish of St. Cleer was newly valued for rating purposes in 1854 by Mr. BADCOCK, a land surveyor. The gross estimated rental of the new rate was GBP 7,179.0s.4d., and its rateable value GBP 5,309.17s.8d. The gross rental of the old rate in 1837 was GBP 5,221.10s.4d., and its rateable value, GBP 3,918.9s.6d., showing an increase on the rental of GBP 1,957.1s. and of GBP 1,393.8s.2d. on the rateable value. . In his opinion, where mines were working at a profit, they did a great deal of good, by keeping up the price of agricultural produce, and giving higher wages to those employed than they would otherwise be likely to get. . . [He rejected outright the suggestion that the doctor and club funds should be rated in any manner.] . End of part 2; part 3 to come

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    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 18 July 1856 - Rating of Mines - Hundred of Powder-St. Austell, Liskeard, etc. part 1
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. Hello All - This is very long, but I thought it worth transcribing as it contains so many details about various parishes, and parish life. It was also interesting to read the response of a witness, when asked about the possibility of the general closing of mines; he'd worked in them since age 11, and couldn't imagine such a thing occurring! It gives an insight into how the poor-rate system worked, as well. So, hope you enjoy! (and hope this comes through in readable condition!) Julia .............. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 18 JULY 1856 - Part 1 of 4 RATING OF MINES TO THE POOR [testimony before a Committee of Parliament, regarding rating of mines to aid the poor] SIXTH DAY – FRIDAY, JULY 4 THE COMMITTEE again assembled this day at Twelve o'clock, and called: - MR. CARLYON, of St. Austell, who stated that he lived in the centre of a large mining district, and had given much attention to mining matters, with which he was concerned professionally, but more on behalf of the lords than the adventurers. He was chiefly concerned for Major CARLYON, who was lord of Buscundle [Boscundle?], Great Crinnis, Pembroke, and East Crinnis and West Crinnis United Mines, and many other smaller mines. Great Crinnis was the same mine that had been formerly worked, and paid from the returns of ore dues to the amount of GBP 20,000 per year. At that time the royalty was 1/8th. He thought the returns yielded a profit of about GBP 200,000. The rates to the poor were paid out of these royalties; but the present grants were not rated. The rates formerly paid were on 2/5ths of the dues; all mines were so rated at that period. Under the then parochial system property was rated lower than at present. He had referred to the rate so far back as 1826, and he found that the rates were made on 2/5ths of the dues. This was confirmed by the printed report of the "King v. St. Austell," up to which period the mines were rated . In the last five years, they had granted sixteen leases, none of which were other than for money payments. Great Crinnis and Boscundle were in the parish of St. Austell. With the exception of Great Polgooth, which was partly the property of the Earl of Mount Edgcumbe, and whose dues, he believed, were received in kind, there was not another sett in existence in St. Austell paying dues in kind; its total rateable value was GBP 73 per year. Par Consols, in St. Blazey parish, was rated at one time, but he believed it was not so now, as there had been a new grant. There were no mines of any consequence either in St. Blazey or St. Austell rated to the poor. He did not conceive that mines brought any extra proportion of poor, and there was but a very slight increase in the proportion of deaths. The average of the kingdom was 1 in 17, and in Cornwall 1 in 19. Mining paupers did not exceed the agricultural by more than 2 per cent. The amount of rates in their County were lower than any other in the kingdom. The lives of the miners were shorter than the agriculturists. But there was no proportion of these thrown upon the parish, as the doctor and club funds were sufficient up to the time of their decease to support them. As regards their widows and orphans, the mines would employ a great number of them, so women and children were largely engaged at surface, the children being enabled to go out to work at a very early period of life. In St. Austell there was a great deal of cottage building, especially on the part of the miners, who were very anxious when they had the money to build houses. With respect to the exemption of mines from paying poor-rates, he would say that it was to the interest of the working miner that the mines should not be rated, as any increased burden on them would decrease his profits in a much greater ratio than when mines were relieved from the rates. BY THE CHAIRMAN - There were a number of clay pits in St. Austell rated to the poor. Could not say that the owners of clay and the agriculturists were indirectly contributing to pay the rates for the miners, or that the whole of the burden of the poor was thrown upon the other rateable property, but thought that mines were a great benefit to other property. He did not, however, look on it as a question of rating; but considered mines were of so speculative a character that it would be unfair to rate them. Mining was a great speculation and risk, and a heavy burden to those who carried it on; whilst, on the other hand, it was a source of great profit and gain to those who lived in the parish where it was carried on, and by that means contributed indirectly to the poor. He could not view the lord's property as an underground farm. In mineral property, the lord had a certain amount of capital as it stood; and if he were to purchase any given property, it would be with the knowledge that there were certain minerals beneath, and his purchase would be regulated accordingly; and, therefore, every portion of that which was taken away made his capital so much less. He did not like to give an individual opinion on the question of rating, but, in the abstract, he considered the difficulties were so great, that he would not impose a rate at all, either on the lord or the adventurers. The dues of the lords formerly were greater than at present; and in St. Austell the lords granted at one-half of what they were, which was on account of the large capital required. The dues paid by the present Great Crinnis Company were 1-16th when working at a profit, and 1-24th whilst working at a loss. He thought that mines ought not to be rated, and he had scarcely spoken to a person in the neighbourhood who was not of opinion that it would be unadvisable to rate mines. He concurred in that opinion, as the benefit conferred on the district by the consumption of its produce was great. Until mining was commenced in St. Austell it was a very small parish, but since mines were opened it had gradually increased to its present dimensions, and was still on the increase. About 1847, there was some distress in the district, occasioned by the high price of corn, and the agriculturists were the first to find the difficulty of meeting the increased charges of the labourers, who were very scarce. BY THE COMMITTEE - The mining tenements were formerly let on lease for ninety-nine years, or three lives; but they were now getting into the mode of granting for sixty years. The rateable value of the parish was about GBP 69,000. The miner generally fixed on a waste spot of ground when desirous of building a house, for which he has a lease. In the event of the mine not answering, he could sell if he thought proper. He thought there was no great hardship inflicted on other property by the exclusion of mines. Up to the time that Great Crinnis was abandoned by the former adventurers it paid the poor-rates. There was no practical difficulty in rating the mines then, for whether they were profitable or not the lord received his dues. The proportion of miners on the parish were smaller than that of other labourers. There was a great difference between coal and metallic mines; as in the former, owners were prohibited from employing children, whilst in copper mines they were employed at surface at a very early period in life. According to the Parliamentary returns for 1854, the total number of females employed in copper mines was 3,846, out of whom 2,353 were under twenty years of age; whilst, out of 2,643 females employed in coal mines, 1,290 only were under that age. The fair inference, therefore, was that the miners' families do not become chargeable to the parish, because they could maintain themselves by working in the mines. The benefit derived by the inhabitants of a district was seen in the increased value of the rateable property. A farm would let in a mining district at a higher rate than it would at a distance; added to which, the miners built cottages, the rent of which being under GBP 6, in a great number of instances, the burthen did not fall upon him. The quantity of ground enclosed by this means was very great. Besides which, the starting of a mine in a peculiarly agricultural district would cause a greater demand for labour; and as the miner's wages depended upon the demand for his services, it followed that the greater the demand for labour the higher would be the rates paid. When mines ceased to exist in any district, the miners were compelled to seek employment elsewhere, and did not increase, therefore, the poor. There were a great number of mines now being worked in the county of Cornwall at a loss, and it would be impossible to say what the effect would be if they were stopped. \ In St. Austell and St. Blazey, the rates were low. Rates were higher in some agricultural districts than in mining. Taking a number of parishes, he found that the average rate for the last five years was 2s.8d in the pound. In Mevagissey with 2,022 inhabitants, in 1854, the poor-rate was 4s.6d. in the pound, and the highway rate 10d., making together 5s.6d. They were, in the same parish, in 1855, 6s.6d and 1s., or 6s.6d. Gorran, population 1,188, poor-rate, 1854, 2s.; highway rate, 4d. in the pound. St. Michael Carhayes, population 191, poor-rate 1854, 2s.; highway 7d; 1855, poor-rate, 2s.; highway, 10d. St. Ewe, population 1,544, rate, 1854, 3s.2d; highway, 10d; 1855, rate 2s.3d., and 9d highway. St. Mewan, population 1234, poor-rate, 1854, 1s.6d.; highway, 1s.3d; 1855, poor-rate 2s; highway, 1s.3d. Grampound, population 589, poor-rate, 1854, 4s.6d., and 1855, 5s.8d.; no highway rate. St. Stephens, population, 2,711, poor-rate, 1854, 1s.10d; highway, 1s.10d; 1855, poor-rate 2s.2d.; highway, 1s.10d. St. Dennis, population 888, poor-rate, 1854, 1s.1d.; highway, 6d. in 1854; and in 1855, poor-rate, 2s.5d.; highway, 6d. Roche, population 1,854, poor-rate, 1854, 3s.; highway, 5d.; 1855, poor-rate 2s.10d.; highway, 5d. St. Austell, population 10,750, poor-rate, 1854, 2s.6d; highway, 10d.; 1855, poor-rate 3s.; highway, 10d. St. Blazey, population 3,570, poor-rate 1854, 2s.4d., and in 1855, 1s.8d. Tywardreath, population 3,287, poor-rate, 1854, 2s.8d.; highway. 10d; 1855, poor-rate, 2s.4d; highway, 4d. St. Sampsons, population 355, poor-rate, 1854, 1s.10d.; 1855, 2s. Fowey, with a population of 1,452, poor-rate, 1854, 2s.9d.; highway, 4d.; 1855, poor-rate, 2s.1d.; highway, 4d. >From these figures it will be seen that the rate in Mevagissey, in 1854, was 4s.6d. in the pound, and in Grampound, 5s.6d., which were agricultural, as was also Roche, in all of which the rates were higher than in St. Austell, where it was 3s., in 1854, and 3s.10d. in 1855. Yet there was only one mine in the parish of St. Austell paying dividends. Polgooth was a losing concern, and a large outlay had been expended to re-constitute it; but it was on its last legs for some time, as was also Crinnis. End of Part 1, and his testimony

    09/05/2012 06:48:16
    1. [CORNISH] SYMONS at Lawhitton
    2. Di Gibbs
    3. Hi Lee, Lawhitton is a village and parish adjacent to Launceston the largest town in the area. Tregada consists of a few houses and one farm now. It is situated on the main road between Launceston and Callington, the A388. Have a look at Genuki: see below for Lawhitton: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Lawhitton/index.html Use the www.old-maps.co.uk site for a detailed map of the modern parish. Just put Lawhitton into the box, and enter, then go left to find the main road (coloured red) and follow it down to find a scattered community. The parish church records are online at: http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database If I can be of further help, please do not hesitate to ask. Best wishes in your search, Di OPC (Genealogy) for Lezant, Lawhitton & Stoke Climsland (Cornwall) Living in Wiltshire, UK

    09/05/2012 05:28:11
    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 18 July 1856 BMDS - addendum
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. Sorry - cut off the Deaths in mid-stride!! By the way, I put spaces between each of the sentences, but Rootsweb servers seem to remove them, hence the lack of space between the lines, which may make the whole difficult to read. ................................... WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 18 July 1856 DEATHS - At Biston Mill, St. Ive, Mr. John STONE, late hind to Lord Ashburton, aged 66 years. At Torquay, on Friday last, W. WEBB, Esq., late the proprietor and host of the Seven Stars Hotel, Totnes. At Plymouth, on Monday last, Mr. Thomas WILSON, one of the veterans of the Peninsula War, at an advanced age. At Woodside, Plymouth, on Wednesday last, William COLLIER, Esq., aged 84 years. At his residence at Newton Abbot, on Tuesday last, Mr. John Trist BURGOYNE, recently for fourteen years a commercial traveller int he employ of Mr. PINSENT, of that town. At 3 Ford Park, Mutley on the 3rd instant, Susan Batsford, daughter of Mr. Henry LATIMER, aged 13 years. At Brighton, where he has been staying some time for his health, David, infant son of Mr. George ROOKE, of Jolly Calker's, Deptford Lower Road, Rotherhithe, London.

    09/04/2012 04:01:26
    1. Re: [CORNISH] SYMONS at Lawhitton
    2. JCM
    3. Hi Elizabeth, Check out the Genuki page for the parish of Lawhitton at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Lawhitton/index.html According to quick Google searches, Tregada was a village/hamlet within the parish of Lawhitton and is now designated as "Lawhitton, Rural". All in all, not too far from Egloskerry, from which my SYMONS came. Joanne, Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Metamorphosis" <metamorphosis@cogeco.ca> To: "Cornish list" <CORNISH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:04 PM Subject: [CORNISH] SYMONS at Lawhitton > Hi Listers, >>From BMDs July 1856, the following death may be one of mine .... > > 'At Tregada, in Lawhitton, on the 26th ult., Sarah, wife of Mr. Thomas > SYMONS, aged 55 years' > > Does anyone know where Lawhitton is - and what Tregada is? > > Elizabeth Lee Rahman > Ontario, Canada > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. If you want, > MIME digests, email CORNISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > Unsubscribe from either by sending an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/04/2012 03:24:21
    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 18 July 1856 - BMDS
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER, transcribed by J. Mosman 18 July 1856 BIRTHS At Perran Porth, on Friday last, the wife of P. P. SMITH, Esq., of Tremorvah, near Truro, of a daughter. At Truro, on the 29th ult., the wife of Mr. William Broad CHAMPION, accountant, of a son. At Ridgeo, in the parish of Gulval, the wife of Mr. James JELBERT, of a son. At Clifton, Hayle, the wife of Mr. William DAVIES, of a son. At Kayle, in the parish of Phillack, the wife of Mr. James PRISK, of a daughter. At Gwinear, last week, the wife of Mr. T. HARVEY, of a son; and at Gwinear Downs, the wife of Mr. Solomon AXFORD, of a son. At Redruth, the wife of Mr. Thomas REMFRY, of a son, since dead; and the wife of Mr. SLEEMAN, of a son. At Tencreek, Lower St. Columb, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. William WILTON, of a daughter. At St. Austell, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. James Melhuish MITCHELL, mason, of a daughter. At Bodmin, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. John HARDING, of a daughter; and on Saturday, the wife of Mr. John TREVERTON, of a son. At Callington, on the 4th instant, the wife of J. KEMPTHORNE, Esq., of a son. At Launceston, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Thomas STEPHENS, draper, of a daughter. At Brimpton, Berks, on the 19th instant, the wife of the Rev. Edward GOLDING, of a son. MARRIAGES At St. Mary's Church, Truro, on Tuesday last, by the Rev. W. W. HARVEY, Alfred Miles SPEER, youngest son of Wiliam Henry SPEER, Esq., of Dublin, to Margaret Annie, only daughter of the late Henry Charles MILFORD, Esq., of Truro. At Kenwyn, on Tuesday last, Mr. John BILLING, builder, of St. Stephens, to Miss BATH, of Helston. At Kenwyn, on the 17th instant, Mr. S.C. JAMES, of Truro, to Miss Elizabeth POWNING, of Blackwater. At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on the 7th instant, Mr. Charles Samuel TONG to Miss Selina BANT, both of that town. At St. Hilary, on the 10th instant, Mr. CROCKER, of St. HILARY, to Miss FLOUD, of Marazion. At Lelant, on the 1st instant, Mr. Sampson MICHELL to Philippa, second daughter of the late Capt. George PERRY. At Illogan, on Saturday last, Mr. James DAWE to Miss Elizabeth STONEMAN, both of Pool; and on Sunday, Mr. Richard TREVETHAN, of Illogan Highway, to Miss Matilda RIPPER, of Gwennap. At Liskeard, on the 7th instant, Mr. SUTHERLAND to Miss LESBERILL, of Havott, Dubwalls, Liskeard; and on the 10th, Mr. STANTAN, to Miss Elizabeth STANTAN. At Liskeard, on Wednesday last, Caroline, eldest daughter of Mr. R. SOBEY, of Pensipple, to Mr. W. DINGLE, of Fowey. At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on Tuesday last, by the Rev. Edmund MORTLOCK, rector of Moulton, Suffolk, John St. Aubyn, Esq., eldest son of Edward St. AUBYN, Esq., of Stoke Damarel, in the county of Devon, to the Lady Elizabeth Clementina TOWNSHEND, second daughter of the Marquis TOWNSHEND. At Christ Church, Clerkenwell, London, on Sunday last, Mr. William Colin BENNETT, to Jane, second daughter of Mr. John CHAPMAN, of Porthpean, in the parish of St. Austell. At Charles Church, Plymouth, on Monday last, Mr. J. HICKEY, to Elizabeth Jane, second daughter of Mr. A. REBAUSE, innkeeper, of Padstow. At Brixton, Devon, on the 8th instant, William Henry, second son of W. H. HAWKER, Esq., of Plymouth, to Laura Eliabeth, eldest daughter of Henry Collins SPLATT, Esq., of Brixton House. At Waloot St. Saviour's, Bath, on the 10th instant, William Henry Earle GODFREY, Esq., H.M. Customs, Cardiff, youngest son of John Race GODFREY, Esq., R.N., Mayor of Dartmouth, to Maria Johanna, youngest daughter of the Rev. D. R. GODFREY, D.D., Principal of Grosvenor College, Bath. DEATHS At Ferris Town, Truro, on Wednesday last, Captain Thomas PENGELLY, aged 57 years. The deceased was for many years a mine agent at the Gongo Soco Gold Mines in Brazil, in connection with the Imperial Brazillian Mining Company. At Truro, on Sunday last, Mr. Thomas LOCKETT, aged 67 years. At Falmouth, on Sunday last, Mrs. Col. KEMPE, aged 55 years. At Falmouth, on Tuesday last, Joseph Jelliff, fourth son of Mr. Francis SYMONS, of the Bar, aged 26 years. At Condurrow, in the parish of St. Anthony, on the 4th instant, Mr. Oliver EDWARDS, aged 81 years. At Penzance, on the 10th instant, Jane, widow of Mr. Richard KELYNACK, aged 82 years; and on Tuesday last, the infant daughter of Mr. Charles READ. At Jamaica, in the parish of Madron, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. Richard DANIEL. At Boskednan, in the parish of Gulval, on the 10th instant, the infant son of Mr. Thomas NOYE. At Illogan, Mrs. Elisabeth RULE, late of Camborne, aged 87 years; on Sunday last, Elizabeth Ann, daughter of Mr. David HARVEY, aged 1 year; and on Wednesday, Alexander PASCOE, aged 81 years. At Hayle, Mr. George BRYANT, aged 73 years. At Guildford, in the parish of Phillack, on Friday last, William, son of Mr. Edward THOMAS, aged 4 years; and at Ventonleague, Mr. Thomas HAMBLY, aged 65 years. At Gwinear Church Town, Maria, wife of Mr. JACKMAN, aged 38 years. At Gwithian, on Friday last, Alicia, aged 7 years; and on Monday last, Lavinia Mary, aged 11 years, both children of Mr. PHILLIPS. At Camborne, on the 10th inst., Emma, infant daughter of Mr. YEATES; and George, son of Mr. George TREVILLIAN, aged 9 years; and on Saturday last, Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. John SMITH, aged 7 years. At Redruth, on Monday last, Susan, eldest daughter of Mr. Henry JAMES aged 14 years. At Redruth, on Wednesday last, the youngest daughter of William M. GRYLLS, Esq. At North Downs, near Redruth, on the 9th instant, Mr. William HARRIS, aged 28 years; at North Country, on the 10th instant, Mr. James DAVEY, aged 58 years; and at Wheal Rose, on Sunday last, Thomas James, only son of Mr. Joseph CHAMPION, aged 11 years. At Gwennap Vicarage, on Sunday last, suddenly, the Rev. William GILLBEE, vicar of that parish, aged 62 years. At St. Austell, on the 10th instant, Mr. Richard WARNE, tea dealer, aged 47 years. At East Looe, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. Jaes LANE, aged 66 years. At Steppen, near Bodmin, on the 5th inst., Abigail, the eldest daughter of Mr. John STEPHENS, Land Surveyor, etc., aged 32 years. At Liskeard, on Friday last, suddenly, Mrs. STRONG, aged 72 years.

    09/04/2012 03:05:47
    1. [CORNISH] SYMONS at Lawhitton
    2. Metamorphosis
    3. Hi Listers, From BMDs July 1856, the following death may be one of mine .... 'At Tregada, in Lawhitton, on the 26th ult., Sarah, wife of Mr. Thomas SYMONS, aged 55 years' Does anyone know where Lawhitton is - and what Tregada is? Elizabeth Lee Rahman Ontario, Canada

    09/04/2012 03:04:37
    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 11 July 1856 - BMDs
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER, transcribed by J. Mosman 11 July 1856 BIRTHS At Truro, on the 23rd ult., the wife of Mr. George MAY, saddler, of a daughter. and on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. J. Russell ENDEAN, bookseller, of a daughter. At Falmouth, on the 30th ult., the wife of Mr. William MAY, of a daughter; and on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. G. LEWIS, shipwright, of a son. At Trebah, in the parish of Mawnan, the wife of Mr. GUNDRY, of a daughter. At Kernick, in the parish of Mabe, on the 30th ult., the wife of Lieut. Colonel WYNTER, of a still-born daughter. At Lampro Mills, in the parish of Cury, on the 1st instant, the wife of Mr. John SINCOCK. of a son. At Penzance, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. W. ASHTON, of a daughter. At Madron, last week, the wife of Mr. John DOWNING, of a son. At Riviere Cottage, Hayle, the wife of Mr. John POOL, jun., of a son. At Hayle Foundry, the wife of Mr. Joseph MICHELL, of a daughter; the wife of Mr. John THOMAS, of a son; and the wife of Mr. Walter JENKIN, on a son. At Camborne, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. Matthew LEE, of a son. At Redruth, the wife of Mr. J. H. VIVIAN, of a daughter, since dead. At Chacewater, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. Stephen JEFFERY, of a son. At Blackwater, in the parish of St. Agnes, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. James HOOPER, merchant, of a son. At Carne Hot, near Blackwater, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. John ANGOVE, of a daughter. At Penstraze, int he parish of Kea, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. John OATES, of a son. At Ennys, in the parish of St. Enoder, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. W. LANGDON, of a daughter. At Roche, on the 3rd instant, the wife of Mr. Robert VERCOE, carpenter, of a son. At Fowey, on the 3rd instant, the wife of Mr. T. B. ROWE, master of the schooner "Alpha," of a daughter. At West Looe, on Friday last, the wife of Captain P. BARTLETT, of the schooner "Hope," of a daughter. At East Looe, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. John LOCK, of a daughter. At Rosehill, near Lostwithiel, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. John WILLINGTON, of a daughter. At Bodmin, on the 29th ult., the wife of Mr. BESWETHERICK, of a son. At Liskeard, on the 2nd instant, the wife of Mr. James JAGO, town clerk, of a daughter. At 2 Peerless Place, City Road, London, the wife of Mr. John JOHNS, cabinet maker, formerly of Redruth, of a daughter. At Canterbury, on the 29th ult., the wife of Mr. F. J. MARSHALL, Royal Engineers, son of Mr. MARSHALL, Pendennis Castle, of a daughter. At the Knockmahon Mines, county of Waterford, Ireland, on the 1st instant, the wife of Capt. BENNETTS, of a daughter. MARRIAGES At Kenwyn, on Tuesday last, Mr. Henry RUNNALLS, jun., merchant, of Penzance, to Emily Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas BOYLE, of Truro. At Madron, on Monday last, Mr. William OATS, of St. Just in Penwith, to Grace, daughter of Mr. R. HOSKING, of Madron. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Copperhouse, last week, Mr. Thomas ADAMS to Miss Jane LUKEY, both of Camborne. At Baldhu, on the 30th ult., Mr. John BEST, of Kenwyn, to Miss Martha EDWARDS, of Baldhu At St. Columb, on the 1st instant, Mr. John BENNY, jun., to Susan, eldest daughter of Mr. William HICKS, of St. Wenn; and on Tuesday last, the Rev. C. LEMON to Margaret, eldest daughter of F. C. PAYNTER, Esq. At the Registrars' Office, St. Austell, on Sunday last, Mr. William KENT to Miss Eliza CLARK, both of Mevagissey. At the District Church, Charlestown, on the 3rd instant, Capt. R. F. N. BANKS, of Liverpool, to Elizabeth, fourth daughter of B. BANKS, Esq., manager at Charlestown. At Lanlivery, on the 1st instant, Mr. John BENNY, builder, of St. Columb, to Miss Elizabeth HAWKEN, of the former place. At Tavistock, on Sunday last, Mr. W. H. B. BARNETT, clerk int he Devon Great Consols Mine, to Miss Jane M. L. TOOP, of Tavistock. At Tawstock, Devon, on the 3rd instant, the Rev. R. FAYLE to Eleanor Elizabeth, relict of the late Albany SAVILLE, Esq., of Oaklands, and sister of Sir Bourchier Palk WREY, Bart., of Tawstock Court. At Wolborough Church, Newton Abbot, on the 3rd instant, Mr. BARRETT, chemist, to Jane Elizabeth, second daughter of Mr. E. COCKREM, both of Torquay. At West Hackney, London, on Saturday last, Captain PARK, of the barque "Vesper Bed," to Philippa, second daughter of the Rev. John PARSONS, Marazion. At Cheltenham, on the 1st instant, Perry SPARKES, of Exeter, barrister-at-law, eldest son of the late Joseph SPARKES, Esq., to Georgiana, eldest daughter of William GIBNEY, M.D., of the former place. At Madras, on the 9th of April last, Joseph BARROW, third son of S. CARDOZO, Esq., of London, to Adela, only daughter of A. CAMMINDE, Esq. DEATHS At Truro, on the 2nd instant, Sarah, wife of Mr. Nicholas OLIVE, sen., aged 62 years; and this week, Mr. Nicholas OLIVE, for many years in the employ of the Kennal Vale Gunpowder Company, having survived his wife for a few days only. At Truro, on Saturday last, Mr. William WILLIAMS, aged 64 years. At Perran wharf, on the 30th ult., Ararene, daughter of Mr. Joel TREWEEKE, of Adelaide, South Australia. At Falmouth, on the 29th ult., Grace, wife of Mr. Richard RULE, aged 53 years; Mr. George Lumesden JAMES, tailor, aged 24 years; and Alfred Rashleigh, son of Mr. Charles DEVONSHIRE, builder, aged 5 years. At St. Mawes, on the 27th ult., the infant son of Mr. W. SNOW. At Penzance, on Monday last, the infant son of Mr. John RUSSELL, aged 2 years. At Hayle, on Saturday last, Mr. William JENKIN, aged 53 years. At Copperhouse, on Tuesday last, the son of Mr. Paul BURRALL, aged 3 years. At the Lamb and Flag Inn, in the parish of St. Erth, on the 2nd instant, Ellen Jane, only daughter of Mr. Anthony BOLITHO, aged 2 years. At Camborne, on Friday last, William CARVOSSO, infant son of Mr. Edward J. LEAN; and William, son of Mr. William WILLIAMS, aged 2 years; on Sunday, James, son of Mr. John HOCKING, aged 2 years; and on Wednesday, Mrs. Susannah STONE, aged 76 years. At Redruth, on Friday last, Jane, second daughter of Mr. Thomas ROGERS, aged 17 years; and on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. William HARRIS, grocer. At St. Day, on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. William SANDRY, aged 34 years. At Poldice, near St. Day, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonathan NICHOLLS, aged 64 years. At Seveock Wood, in the parish of Kea, on the 2nd instant, Mr. Solomon WILLIAMS, aged 65 years. At St. Agnes, on Saturday last, Johanna, widow of the late Mr. William NINNIS, aged 72 years. At Trevarick, in the parish of Cubert, on Saturday last, Elizabeth, second daughter of Thomas HOBLYN, Esq. At Veryan, on the 28th ult., suddenly, Mrs. Barbery BEARD, aged 81 years. At Fowey, on Monday last, Elizabeth, widow of Mr. Rueben LAKEMAN, aged 70 years; and on Tuesday, Mr. Ephraim ROBINS, aged 82 years. At East Looe, on Friday last, Elizabeth Ann, daughter of Mr. Richard PEARCE, aged 3 years. At Lostwithiel, on Tuesday last, Mr. J. W. TALLING, aged 63 years. At Trecarne, in the parish of Tintagel, on Saturday last, Florence, second daughter of Mr. John GILL, aged 17 years. At Treclego, in the parish of Advent, on Saturday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Simon PROUT, aged 68 years. At Tregada, in Lawhitton, on the 26th ult., Sarah, wife of Mr. Thomas SYMONS, aged 55 years. At Budehaven, on the 30th ult., Jenny, wife of the Rev. J.S. AVERY, aged 55 years. At Kennington, on the 26th ult., Rosanna, wife of John SYMES, Esq., of Surrey Villa, Kennington Road, and daughter of the late Henry BOASE, Esq., of Penzance. At Real del Monte Mine, Mexico, on the 20th of May last, much respected, Mr. Charles RICHARDS, late of Camborne, aged 49 years.

    09/04/2012 01:31:57
    1. [CORNISH] west britton births 4 july 1856...
    2. Denis Edwards
    3. hi All the entry for R.P.Edwards cheese factor of bath, of a daughter - richard edwards is the brother of John Passmore Edwards the great benifactor - both from the village of Blackwater cheeers denis edwards

    08/31/2012 12:31:07
    1. [CORNISH] West Briton, 4 July 1856, BMDs
    2. Julia Mosman
    3. transcribed by J. Mosman 4 JULY 1856, WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER BIRTHS At Penry, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. P. ROGERS, of a son; and on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. Thomas CORFIELD, of a son. At Falmouth, on the 27th ult., the wife of the Rev. F. H. SCRIVENER, of a daughter. At Rosemerrin, near Falmouth, onthe 20thult., the wife of Herbert MANSEL, Esq., of a son. At Marazion, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. W. J. RICKARD, of a daughter; and on Monday, the wife of Mr. John PHILLIPS, of a son. At Penzance, on the 24th ult., the wife of Mr. J. R. BRANWELL, of a daughter. At Penzance, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. B. BECKERLEG, Senr., baker, of a son; and the widow of Mr. James RICHARDS, of a posthumous daughter. At St. Ives, the wife of Capt. Jacob ROACH, of the schooner "Ferona," of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. Peter CURNOW, of a son; at Penbeagle, the wife of Mr. John QUICK, of a daughter; and at Amalveor, the wife of Mr. Sampson CURNOW, of a son. At Redruth, the wife of Mr. R. JARVIS, of a daughter; the wife of Mr. John THOMAS, of a son; the wife of Mr. H. KELLY, of a son; and the wife of Mr. W. NICHOLAS, of a daughter. At Newquay, ont he 27th ult., the wife of Capt. T. H. BENNETTS, of the smack "Marys and Helena," of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. Charles PEARCE, of a daughter. At Mevagissey, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Peter HUNKIN, jun., of a son. At St. Austell, the wife of Mr. POTTER, cabinet maker, of a son. At Callington, on Wednesday last, the wife of J. KEMPTHORNE, Esq., of a daughter. At Wheal Mary Great Consols, in the parish of St. Neot, on Saturday last, the wife of Capt. John TAYLOR, of a son. At the Branch Bank of England, Plymouth, on Friday last, the wife of C. K. LEE, Esq., of a son. At the School House, Chudleigh, on the 20th ult., the wife of the Rev. G. MOYLE, of a daughter. At Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, on the 20th ult., the wife of George GLASSON, Esq., late of Green-bank, Falmouth, of a son. At Bath, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. R. P. EDWARDS, cheese factor, of a daughter. MARRIAGES At Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. John J. RICHARDS, of Stoke Damarel, Devon, to Miss Mary Jane WILLIAMS; and Mr. James DAY, of Windle, Lancashire, to Miss Caroline WILLIAMS, both daughters of Mr. George WILLIAMS of Helston. At St. Ives, Mr. James CHARD to Miss Philippa GLASSON, both of St. Ives. At Camborne, on the Sunday last, Mr. Richard VIVIAN to Miss Grace HOLMAN, both of that parish. At Mevagissey, ont he 24th ult., Mr. James DUNN to Miss Eleanor JAGO; and on Friday last, Mr. James PHILP to Miss Maria HODGE. At Fowey, on Tuesday last, Mr. John MARTIN to Mrs. Mary COAD. At Antony, on the 26th ult., George Sealy BOURNE, Esq., R.N. to Fanny, daughter of the late William BRUTTON, Esq. At Little Torrington, on the 26th ult., by the Rev. H. Wilmot SITWELL, uncle of the bride, Edward W. BRYDGES WILLYAMS, Esq., second son of Humphry WILLYAMS, Esq., of Carnanton, to Jane, youngest daughter of Sir Trevor WHELER, Bart., of Leamington Hastings, county of Warwick, and of Cross, in Devon. At the Church of the Holy Trinity, Buckfasleigh, Devon, ont he 24th ult., John BOVEY, jun., Esq., of Bilkenghill, to Mary Jane FURNEAUX, only daughter of the alte Mr. POWNING, of Berkeley Place, Falmouth. At St. Leonards, near Exeter, ont he 26th ult., Captain Thomas MILLER, R.N., son of the late Thomas MILLER, Esq., to Ann Julia, youngest surviving daughter of Dr. MILLER. At St. Pancras New Church, London, ont he 26th ult., by the Rev. Lawford DALE, William GRIPE, Esq., of Melbourne, Australia, to Eliza, second daughter of R. LAWRENCE, Esq., 30 Fitzroy Terrace, London. At Swansea, ont he 25th instant, Washington Hamilton BROWN, Esq., solicitor, to Amelia, youngest daughter of Henry BATH, Esq., both of Swansea. DEATHS At Falmouth, on the 23th ult., Mrs. Julia HARVEY, relict of the late Mr. Philip HARVEY, for many years Town Sergeant of Falmouth, aged 83 years; and on the 25th, Thomasine, relict of the late Mr. W. LOBB, tailor, aged 75 years. At Helford, in Manaccan, on the 23rd ult., Mr. James VEAGUE, aged 79 years. At Porthleven, on Friday last, Mrs. Henderson, mother of Mrs. W. THOMAS of the Commercial Inn. At St. Just in Penwith, ont he 27th ult., the infant daughter of the Rev. George SAVERY, Wesleyan Minister. At St. Ives, ont he 23rd ult., Mrs. Wilmot RICHARDS, relict of Mr. Charles RICHARDS, late of the White Hart Inn, aged 67 yers. At Hayle, on Monday last, Mr. R. H. TONKIN, chemist and druggist, aged 30 years. At Camborne, ont he 25th ult., the infant daughter of Mr. James SYMONS; on Friday las,t Martin, son of Mr. James BENNETTS, aged 2 years; on Saturday, John, son of Mr. John SMITH, aged 2 years; and on Wednesday, Samuel John, son of Mr. George TURNER, aged 6 years. At Tuckingmill, ont he 24th ult., Jane, wife of Mr. Henry SECCOMB, aged 26 years. At Pool, on Friday last, Thomas MARTIN, son of Mr. Martin WILLIAMS, police officer, aged 11 years. At Portreath, ont he 24th ult., Eliza, wife of Mr. C. RETALLACK, aged 53 years. At Redruth, on saturday last, Miss Alice MORCOM, aged 35 years. At South Tolgus, ont he 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Samuel TOY, aged 59 years. At the residence of Capt. Simon DAVEY, Pennance, in the parish of Gwennap, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, relict of the late Capt. James PHILLIPS, of Wheal Unity Mine, aged 100 years. At Todpool, near St. Day, Mr. Richard MAGOR, aged 42 years. At Wh. Skirby, on the 25th ult., Mary Ann, daughter of Mr. Mark MOYLE, aged 2 years. At Chacewater, on the 26th ult., Mary, eldest daughter of Capt. Simon SYMONS, aged 32 years. At Probus, on Friday last, Margaret, wife of Mr. John BOSUSTOW, aged 66 years. At Fentonladock, int he parish of Ladock, on the 23rd ult., Mr. B. D. BONE, formerly of Boswiddle, aged 77 years. At St. Austell, on the 26th ult., Octavius, son of Mr. James LUCAS, aged 4 years. At Polruan by Fowey, ont he 25th ult., suddenly, Mr. Francis TIPPETT. On the 25th ult., after a long illness, Mr. John BARTLETT, of Sutton, Linkinhorne, aged 49 years. At Forder, in the parish of St. Stephens by Saltash, on Saturday last, suddenly, Mary Ann, widow of the late Mr. Jeremiah BLIGHT, aged 56 years. At Jamaica, on the 1st of June last, Mr. Joseph HITCHINGS, Master of H. M. ship "Termagant," aged 36 years. He was a native of St. Mawes, and was beloved by all his brother officers.

    08/30/2012 07:22:50
    1. [CORNISH] 1856 F West Briton, June 20th 1856 BMDs
    2. Don Tremethick
    3. On 29/07/2012 6:18 PM, isabelj@talktalk.net wrote: > West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 20th June, 1856. > > NEW YORK MIRROR - [Regrets, but only part of the article is available] > .....After picturing the infernal schemes and doings of the whites, and > the massacres of Indians, he sums up the bloody and shameful results, > and says:- "Such have been the results of one of the most unwise, > unnecessary, and extravagant expeditions ever fitted out by the United > States, and for no other reason than to plunder the treasury of the > United States, and to make political capital for somebody. It could > not have been projected for the defence of the inhabitants of Oregon, > nor the protection of Oregonians in Washington territory, for none > resided there. What then could have been the object? Nothing but a > crusade against the Indians, and a longing to enrich the country. If > such was not the object, Governor Curry, instead of sending his troops > against the Indians in Washington territory, and beyond his > jurisdiction, would have sent all of them to Southern Oregon, where the > war raged, and nowhere else in his territory. The Oregonians say that > the war 'is a godsend to the country.' Speaking of the conduct of the > territorial authorities in this matter, General Wool says:- "I regret > that I am compelled to say that such conduct is too much encouraged by > persons holding high offices under the Government of the United States; > and because I have opposed this inhuman and barbarous practice, and the > wholesale plundering of the treasury of the United States, which there > are no circumstances to justify, I have been denounced by the governors > of both territories and the Legislature of Oregon." General Wool > declares that the Oregon-Indian war, according to the programme of its > authors, will cost the United States from 50,000,000 dollars to > 100,000,000 dollars, and imprint on the national escutcheon an > indelible bloody infamy. Three-fifths, if not all our Indian wars, > have been infamous - tolerable nowhere in the sight of eternal justice. > It is evident that there is to be no cessation in the bloody game > until the last Indian is destroyed. Hounded from their homes by > boastful civilisation in the name of liberty, their bones whiten the > surface of a continent; and yet even while they crouch for shelter in > the gorges of the mountains, the cry of the white man is "Slay - slay > the Indian." > > ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS - On the 10th instant, among members of the > college who having undergone the necessary examinations were admitted > licentiates in midwifery, was Mr. JOHN HENRY LUKE, of Stratton. On the > 12th inst., Mr. W. G. W. TAYLER [?], of Tywardreath, was admitted to a > fellowship of the college. On the 13th inst., amongst those who > underwent the necessary examinations and were admitted members of the > college, was Mr. THOMAS BOYLE, of Truro, late a pupil with Mr. F. J. > SPRY. > > FALMOUTH POST OFFICE - We understand Mr. NEWBERRY COX, son of Mr. J. > D. COX, of Falmouth, has been appointed to the office of Postmaster in > that town. > > TESTIMONIAL TO CAPT. FOX, OF THE SHIP "CHARLES CHALONER." - The ship > "Charles Chaloner" belonging to Mr. JOHN GATLEY, of Tresillian, near > Truro, sailed some time ago from Truro for Quebec, with many passengers > on board from this country; and on her arrival at Quebec, the following > very handsome testimonial was received from the passengers by the > Captain:- "To Capt. AUGUSTUS FOX, Master of the ship "Charles > Chaloner," - We, the undersigned, passengers in the ship "Charles > Chaloner," on her last voyage to this port, from Truro, feel it our > duty before separating, to tender to you, and through you, to the first > officer, Mr. MILLICAN, our most heartfelt thanks for the uniform > kindness and attention shewn to us while on board your noble vessel, > and for the excellent manner in which we were provided. Every want, > every wish of ours, every thing in fact to render the monotony of a sea > voyage less irksome was anticipated by you in the desire to make us as > comfortable as possible. Believe us, Sir, in our new homes in America, > the memory of the pleasant days spent on board your vessel will not > easily be forgotten. If it should ever be our fortune again to trust > ourselves on the waters of the wide Atlantic, we trust we may always > meet with gentlemen as kindly as yourself and the officers under you; > and if our voices could only reach our native shore, it would be to > advise our friends who intend settling in America, to choose your > splendid vessel as the safest and most comfortable mode of conveyance > they can find. In conclusion, permit us to wish you and Mr. Millican > every happiness and success through life, and with feelings of > admiration, mingled with regret at our separation, we subscribe > ourselves, yours gratefully, WM. HAMLEY, THOS. BATES, ARTHUR CARKEEK, > NICHOLAS GRIEVES, WALTER CURVEATH. On behalf of 128 passengers, by the > ship "Charles Chaloner." Quebec, May 27, 1856. > > THE LATE WRECK OF THE GRIBBON - The Royal National Life Boat > Institution have awarded their silver medal to Captain NORCOCK, R.N., > and also to HENWOOD and JOHNS, for their gallant conduct in saving the > life of the sole survivor of the crew of the ill-fated ship > "Endeavour;" and at a meeting of the committee, held on the 5th > instant, this special thanks of the institution, inscribed on vellum, > were presented to Mr. W. E. GEACH, in appreciation of his valuable > service, in causing to be conveyed on a waggon to the scene of the > wreck, a boat, hawsers, &c., which were subsequently lowered over the > cliff, and made instrumental in the rescue of the survivor of the crew > of the ship "Endeavour." > > TRURO POLICE - On Wednesday last, JOHN McENTEGER, who keeps a beer > shop called the Nelson's Arms, Kenwyn Street, was summoned before the > magistrates for having his house open, and persons drinking therein, at > three o'clock on Sunday morning last. The offence was proved by police > constables PRATER and VINCENT. He was cautioned, and fined 20s. and > costs. > > WILLIAM JOHNSON, a travelling musician, who plays the violin at public > houses, was charged with having been drunk, and breaking two panes of > glass in the house of JAMES ROOKE, innkeeper, St. Austell Street. He > was turned out of the house by the landlord, because he was very > abusive; he then broke the glass. His excuse to the magistrates was, > that he was tipsy and did not know what he was doing. He begged they > would be lenient towards him, and having a family, the landlord did not > press the charge against him. He was ordered to pay for the damage > done, 3s. and 2s. 6d. expenses; and for some other damage he had > committed at the police station and the town prison; or, in default of > payment, one month's imprisonment. He paid the money, and was > discharged. > > CAUTION TO APPRENTICES - Last week, a lad named COCK of St. Austell, > who had been in the Devon and Cornwall Militia, on the regiment being > disembodied, returned to his home, when he was recognised by Mr. JOHN > MITCHELL, his former master, from whose service he had absconded during > his apprenticeship. He was apprehended by the police, and taken before > Mr. E. COODE, jun., who dealt with him as leniently as the law would > allow, by ordering him to return to his master and serve out his time, > or else go to the treadmill. The lad, who had four and a-half years to > serve, preferred the former alternative. > > THE BURGLARIES AT FALMOUTH. - The two brothers, JOSEPH and JOHN BASSET, > who ere apprehended as stated in our last paper, for committing > burglaries at Falmouth and stealing place and other articles, were > charged with the offence on Friday last, before Mr. ENYS, county > magistrate, who sat in the Town Hall, Falmouth, which was much crowded > on the occasion. They were charged with burglariously entering and > stealing from the house of Mrs. RYAN, Berkeley Vale, and from the house > of Mr. HALY, at Kimberley Place, in the parish of Falmouth. Witnesses > were examined with reference to the circumstances attending each > robbery, of which we have already given an account. The articles > produced in court were offered for sale at Mrs. REYNOLDS's shop, Old > Town Street, Plymouth, and the magistrate complimented Mr. BROWN, who > manages Mrs. Reynolds's business, on his conduct in detaining them, and > sending for the police. Evidence was given to show that the prisoners > had been seen on the road from Falmouth to Truro, and from that to > Grampound soon after the robberies. A coast-guardsman called HUGH > RENE, said he saw a man pass the prison at Falmouth, about one o'clock > in the morning of the 26th (which must have been about the time the > burglaries were committed). He thought at the time it was one of the > Bassets, but knowing they were transported, and not having heard of > their liberation on tickets-of-leave, he could not believe his own > eyes. He now believed it was Joseph Basset, who was walking at a slow > pace towards the Green Bank; he did not see that he was carrying > anything. After the evidence had been given, the prisoners said they > had nothing to say; and they were committed, on each charge, to be > tried for burglary at the next county assizes. > > A RUNAWAY HORSE - On Saturday last, as a farmer and his wife, called > TREMAIN, of Constantine, were going to Falmouth market, their horse > started off near Belmont, and after going about a quarter of a mile, > the cart came off the wheels, and Mrs. Tremain was thrown into the > road. The farmer held on, and the horse and wheels went down the New > Road into the market place; but although it was the busiest time of the > day, the moor being crowded, there was only a little boy knocked down, > and slightly injured in the arm. The horse and wheels went across the > standing and goods of an earthenware vendor, spread out on the ground, > and occasioned some damage. The animal then rushed on towards the > butter market, but fortunately the posts would not admit of the wheels > passing through. The concussion broke one of the wheels, and the > harness from the horse and the reins becoming entangled in the horse's > legs, he was secured from doing more damage. We understand Mrs. > Tremain was much bruised, but her husband escaped with only a slight > injury. It is surprising there was so little damage occasioned by the > accident. > > FOUND DEAD - On Friday morning last, the town of Camborne was thrown > into a state of excitement by a report that a man had been found > suspended to a rope in a cow shed, in a field adjoining Boldevean Lane, > near the town. The alarm soon brought a great number of persons to the > spot. The body was cut down, and proved to be Mr. BENJAMIN GLASSON, > late of the Railway Hotel, Camborne. He was quite dead when > discovered, and the body was carried to his house in Fore Street. On > Saturday an inquest was held at the Commercial Hotel, when it appeared > there was no satisfactory evidence as to the state of his mind when he > left the town, and the jury returned a verdict of "found dead." > > CORONER'S INQUEST - On Tuesday last, an inquest was held (during the > temporary absence of Mr. HAMLEY,) by Mr. JOHN CARLYON, county coroner, > at St. Blazey, on the body of JAMES STRONGMAN, aged 22 years, who was > killed on Monday, in Par Consols Mine, by a hole going off about him as > he and his comrade were in the act of tamping in the charge. He was > dreadfully mutilated; and his comrade was also very seriously injured > in different parts of his body, and lies, we understand, in a very > precarious state. Verdict, "accidental death." > > EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY - Re: ROWE and SON, booksellers > and stationers, Penzance. This was an adjourned meeting for the last > examination. It will be remembered that at the previous meeting an > account was demanded by the attorney who appeared for Messrs. LONGMAN > and CO., publishers, of London, who are large creditors, and the last > examination was adjourned for its production. Mr. VENN, (of the firm > of HEAD and VENN, Solicitors, Exeter,) who appeared for Messrs. Longman > and other creditors, said the account furnished was satisfactory, and > the court allowed the bankrupts to pass. The balance sheet commenced > on the 31st of December, 1851, and concluded at the date of the > petition, April 8, 1856. On the debtor side of the account were debts > owing, for which no consideration had been given, GBP102. 10s.; amount > proveable by creditors holding mortgages, &c., GBP1,278. 0s. 1d.; all > other debts, GBP2,360. 19s. 10d. Profits of business in each year on > goods actually sold, - 1852, GBP1,135. 12s. 2d.; 1853, GBP1,380. 17s. > 9d.; 1854, GBP1,515. 7s. 6d.; 1855, GBP1,344. 6s. 10d.; 1856, GBP337. > 6s. Total GBP5, 713. 10. 3d. Cost price of goods sold, GBP4,760. 16s. > 8d. Profit thereon at 20 per cent., GBP952. 3s. 4d. Commission on > London newspapers, &c., GBP29. 13s. 11d.; son's board, for 3 1/4 years, > at 6s. per week, GBP50. 14s.; policy of insurance taken credit for in > property sheet, GBP60. Total, GBP4,834. 1s. 2d. On the credit side, > were the following items; - Debts owing for which no consideration has > been given, GBP102. 10s.; deficiency at commencement, GBP442. 18s. 5d.; > goods debts, GBP363. 19s. 3d.; bad GBP53. 15s. 7d. Total GBP417. 14s. > 10d.; excess of cost price of property mortgaged or pledged, &c., > GBP1,160.; all other property, GBP502. 5s. 6d.; losses, GBP114. 8s. > 5d.; trade expenses, GBP635. 0s. 4d.; household expenses, GBP888. 6s. > 3d.; interest, GBP513. 18s. 10d.; law charges, GBP56. 8s. 11d.; > difference, 9s. 8d. Total, GBP4,834. 1s 2d. The cause of bankruptcy > was stated to be want of capital. Among the creditors are Mr. J. JAMES, > Penzance, GBP23. 15s. 10d.; Mr. P. POPE, Falmouth, GBP11. 3s.; Rev. > R. SCURRAH, Penzance, GBP102. 10s; Mr. G. WEARNE, Penzance, GBP5. 6s. > 1d.; Mr. H. WILDMAN, Hayle, GBP5. 2s. 4d.; Mr. A. C. WILDMAN, > Penzance, GBP34. 1s. 9d.; Mr. G. ROWE, Penzance, GBP28. 6s. 7d. Among > the creditors on mortgage are Mr. JOSEPH CARNE, Penzance, GBP800, - > interest, GBP41. 6s. 3d.; Mr. R. THOMAS, Penzance, GBP275; Mr. J. J. > A. BOASE, Penzance, GBP152. 2s. 1d. > > COUNTY COURTS - Helston - At this court on Monday the 9th instant, > the following was amongst the cases for trial:- WILLIAM HARRIS and > JEMIMA his wife v. WILLIAM GAY and MARY his wife. Mr. YEWENS appeared > for plaintiff; Mr. FREDERICK HILL for defendant. This action was > brought to recover the sum of GBP10 as the plaintiff's (Jemima Harris) > distribution share under her father's (JAMES DOWNING's) intestacy. The > defendant, Mary Gay, was the administratrix. The case was partly heard > at the last court, and adjourned for the defendants to deliver a > residuary account. The case occupied nearly three hours at the present > court. Mr. Hill's defence was that the estate had been fully and > properly administered. It appeared that James Downing died in the > latter part of the year 1850, leaving four children, and that his widow > as allowed by the children to retain possession of a leasehold estate > belonging to deceased, and also of the goods and chattels thereon. The > widow died in the year 1854, and shortly afterwards the defendant, Mary > Gay, administered, sold the estate and effects, and paid a variety of > debts. Mr. SIMON KEVERN, Mr. RICHARD TREZISE, and Mr. J. C. JOYCE were > examined as to payments made to them by Mary Gay, which Mr. Yewens > contended ought not to be allowed, as well as some payments as debts > due from the mother. Mr. Hill submitted that the corn and turnips > which were sold in 1854 could not be considered as the goods and > chattels of the father, and the proceeds were properly applied in > satisfaction of the mother's debts, but that independently of that, the > estate had been exhausted. His Honor said, after such a lapse of time, > it was difficult to say exactly what the father's estate really > consisted of, but he considered the defendants had made out a fair > account to the plaintiffs' case. Judgment for defendant. > > Falmouth - At the recent sittings of this Court, the following case > was heard, concerning the purchase of a share in South Wheal Frances:- > M. J. JACOBS v. S. EDMONDS. Both plaintiff and defendant live at > Falmouth, and the action was for recovery from defendant of GBP11. > 10s., for cash overpaid to him on a share purchased in South Wheal > Frances mine. It appeared that Mr. Edmonds informed Mr. Jacobs that he > knew of a share for sale in the mine, price GBP330, but if he wished to > have it he must let him (Edmonds) know before post time the next > morning. Upon that Mr. Jacobs consented to take the share, provided > Mr. Edmonds could not get it for less. In the evening defendant called > on Jacobs, and said, I have got the share. Jacobs then asked if he had > got it for less. He said he had not, he had a great deal of trouble to > get it for that. After some discussion plaintiff gave a cheque for the > amount; fur finding afterwards that Edmonds had purchased the share on > the same day for GBP317. 10s. and GBP1, paid to a broker, he brought > the present action for the recovery of GBP11. 10s. which he considered > was an overcharge made on him by the defendant. It was acknowledged > that shares in the mine had risen in the market, but this did not apply > to the transaction. It was also urged that it was not a broker's > matter, but an offer made by one friend to another. On the other hand > it was stated that on the plaintiff accusing defendant of charging him > more than he gave for the share, he offered to take it back; but > plaintiff refused to do so, and brought his action. A variety of > evidence was heard on both side, and the Judge gave a verdict for the > plaintiff for GBP10, the remaining 30s. being allowed for defendant's > expense. > > Redruth - At this court, held on the 11th and 12th inst., a miner of > Camborne, called MOORSHEAD, sued a butcher of the same place, named > EDMONDS, for recovery of GBP5, for loss of time and expenses, including > doctor's bill, in consequence of an injury sustained by the bit of > defendant's dog on the 12th of April. The defence was that the > plaintiff was annoying the dog at the time. Witnesses were called to > prove the vicious habits of the dog, and the judge gave a verdict for > plaintiff for GBP3. 10s. and costs. > > PEARCE v. TREVASKIS - This was a jury case, in which plaintiff sought > to recover from defendant the sum of GBP16. 17s. for wages due to him > as a clerk in North Wheal Gilbert, in the parish of St. Erth, at 21s. > per month. The jury gave a verdict for plaintiff for GBP13. 12s., > allowing GBP3. 5s. the amount of a bill paid Mr. WYATT by defendant at > plaintiff's request. > > > > > ------------------------------- > Subscribe to digest by sending an email to CORNISH-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and body text. 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    08/28/2012 10:34:46
    1. [CORNISH] JOHN BASSETT WEBB b 1878 CORDELIA WILLIAMS b 1879
    2. Mary Armour
    3. I have come to a brickwall with my great grandfather's brother John Bassett Webb.  John was the son of Henry Webb and Mary Ann Lightfoot.  He was born in Rose, Perranzabuloe in 1878 and married Cordelia Williams (born 1879) on 6 October 1900 at the United Methodist Chapel, Camborne.  In 1903 they had a daughter Lilian Maud Webb and were living at Hockin's Court, Camborne.  After that they seem to disappear.  Any information on the family would be really appreciated.

    08/28/2012 06:43:17