FHL has 15 of them. By the way Milo Custer was born in 1880. Every one of them microfilmed at various times, majority before 1923. No copyright mentioned even for those later publications, too. David Samuelsen Trina Huynh wrote: > Hi Cliff > Yes they were typed and has his handwritten additional notes on some of the papers. > Here's what it states at the end of one of the sections: " ALL OF THE ABOVE WERE ISSUED IN SMALL EDITIONS, AND ARE NOW OUT OF PRINT EXCEPT THOSE NOTED THUS * OF WHICH THE AUTHOR HAS A FEW COPIES LEFT THAT ARE FOR SALE OR EXCHANGE." > > Compiled and Printed by Milo Custer, Bloomington, Illinois. > (I did some research & found that Milo Custer authored about 32 or more short genealogies in which he had compiled and printed himself and then distributed to various libraries etc...) > > Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > Trina, > > "I can tell that these manuscripts were just printed up on his > own--which would make it in the public domain" > > If they were never published, then you can't say that for sure. He > could have typed a single copy of each for himself, or he might have > printed several copies of each for distribution. Do you think they were > ever sold? > > "what if some publishing company found these same papers and decided to > publish them later on like say 1943 (e.g.)." > > If they were not actually published, the author had a common law > copyright which hasn't run out yet. In that case, the manuscript could > only have been published in 1943 with permission. But, if the books > were really published in 1924 and 1925, and without a copyright notice, > then they immediately went into the public domain. Anybody could > republish the entire work, but they would not get a new copyright on the > previous work (except possibly to minor things like a new format and > anything new added to the book like a new introduction). Facts can > never be copyrighted, nor can public domain material. Only new, > creative effort can earn a copyright. > > "Can someone actually buy the ownership to copyright this and say "hey I > own this now!" > > A copyright to a written work can be bought from the copyright owner, > but it has to be in writing. Many descendants might be the copyright > owners today if the author is deceased. > > When you say it looks like he printed them on his own, do you mean that > they were typed? If so, are they originals or carbon copies? I'm just > trying to figure out if they were published or not. Where or how you > got the books might help you or someone else make such a decision. > > Cliff > > > Trina Huynh wrote: > > >>Wow---this is very complicated. >>I can tell that these manuscripts were just printed up on his own--which would make it in the public domain...however what if some publishing company found these same papers and decided to publish them later on like say 1943 (e.g.). Can someone actually buy the ownership to copyright this and say "hey I own this now!" >>thanks for your help. >> >> >> >> > > > > ==== COPYRIGHT Mailing List ==== > LATIN-WORDS-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in deciphering and interpreting written documents in Latin from earliest to most recent 20th Century times, and discussing old Latin words, phrases, names, abbreviations and antique jargon. To subscribe, send subscribe to mailto:LATIN-WORDS-L-request@rootsweb.com (Mail Mode) or mailto:LATIN-WORDS-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Mode) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos > > > ==== COPYRIGHT Mailing List ==== > LATIN-WORDS-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in deciphering and interpreting written documents in Latin from earliest to most recent 20th Century times, and discussing old Latin words, phrases, names, abbreviations and antique jargon. To subscribe, send subscribe to mailto:LATIN-WORDS-L-request@rootsweb.com (Mail Mode) or mailto:LATIN-WORDS-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Mode) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >