In a message dated 9/1/2007 11:11:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, richardpence@pipeline.com writes: I just did. And it must have been a while since you checked! I've been reading about "original" and "derivative" sources for what must be a couple of years. The judges will surely dump applicants who seek certification and talk about "primary" and "secondary" sources <g>. Richard Richard- When the terminology changed I jotted down a little note to myself and I simplify it as: SOURCES are either original or derivative, INFORMATION is either primary or secondary, and EVIDENCE is either direct or indirect. At least that is how I keep the terminology straight. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour