Richard, Rootsweb was a great idea doomed from the beginning. Many people like the idea of other people donating : I should be kinder to Ancestry.com despite their rush to start new projects without fixing the old, because Rootsweb would never have survived alone, and even though independent people can put up good websites, there had to be some organization. The best genealogy program -- supposedly -- now -- is Master Genealogist. I find it hard to use. I loved Ultimate Family Tree, and that buy out gave some of us some bad attitudes. I was thinking you had a footnote regarding a deed from Lewis and Mary Bibler to John Koontz and that you had probably gotten the information from one of the Gilreath abstract books. I don't have the original deed, but do have the abstract, which does say Barbara or Barbary, just like every other Lewis Bibler deed. It crossed my mind that you may have inadvertently written Mary since Mary Pence married Francis Bibler. You could be right about where you got your information though. We'll talk about this off list. We're finally going to put up a web site ... slowly, and we'll have the abstracts on the site if we can't get the original deed by then. To make this relevant to copyright, what do I do when I received written permission from Amelia Gilreath to use any of her abstracts at my discretion, then crashed my computer, and she passed away? I don't know the status of her books at present. I know that she closed up store during her lifetime and had offers from publishers but didn't seem eager to take any of them. I wonder if her heirs have sold the rights and I might get myself in trouble using all those abstracts. Any takers? Thanks Debbie Debbie, the Lewis Bibler note was not my work. It appears in a book by a noted historian and genealogist (now deceased, I believe) named B. C. Holtzclaw. At the time your fist called my attention to the name of Lewis' wife the file was not at my web site; I only had a link to it. It is now at my site. I am having the deed in question checked to see what it says about the name of the wife of Lewis. I'll let you know. Richard ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

my comment clearly off topic but this message got my attention because of family ties then it's back to copyright. B. C. (Benjamin Clark Holtzclaw) wrote mostly about the Germanna colony families. Nothing direct about the Bibler's. However, it is Bibler (I am a Bibler - through David Bibler of Ohio). As for Amelia Gilreath - her books are still under copyright - dated 1989. 11 volumes of Frederick County deeds, Shenandoah deeds are 1987-1994 W. David Samuelsen RoverLSmith@aol.com wrote: > > Richard, > > I was thinking you had a footnote regarding a deed from Lewis and Mary > Bibler to John Koontz and that you had probably gotten the information from one of > the Gilreath abstract books. I don't have the original deed, but do have the > abstract, which does say Barbara or Barbary, just like every other Lewis > Bibler deed. It crossed my mind that you may have inadvertently written Mary > since Mary Pence married Francis Bibler. You could be right about where you got > your information though. We'll talk about this off list. We're finally going > to put up a web site ... slowly, and we'll have the abstracts on the site if > we can't get the original deed by then. > > To make this relevant to copyright, what do I do when I received written > permission from Amelia Gilreath to use any of her abstracts at my discretion, > then crashed my computer, and she passed away? I don't know the status of her > books at present. I know that she closed up store during her lifetime and had > offers from publishers but didn't seem eager to take any of them. I wonder if > her heirs have sold the rights and I might get myself in trouble using all > those abstracts. > > Any takers? > > Thanks > > Debbie > > > > > > Debbie, the Lewis Bibler note was not my work. It appears in a book by a > noted historian and genealogist (now deceased, I believe) named B. C. > Holtzclaw. At the time your fist called my attention to the name of Lewis' > wife the file was not at my web site; I only had a link to it. It is now at > my site. I am having the deed in question checked to see what it says about > the name of the wife of Lewis. I'll let you know. > > Richard > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPYRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >