In a message dated 9/1/2007 8:47:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, RoverLSmith@aol.com writes: You would have less control with a Rootsweb free site because you wouldn't have to fly their banners and you wouldn't be encouraged to store your database, if you have one, at Ancestry.com where it would end up sold and mixed up with a bunch of poor research. <snip> Closing Rootsweb might be a good idea. Mailing lists and web pages can be created individually with little cost. Rootsweb certainly didn't improve when Ancestry took it over. Ancestry benefits from the freepages flying banners and linking to their trees. ---- Debbie- I'm only going to comment on the two paragraphs from your lengthy post which I quoted above as we are getting a bit far afield from copyright issues. Do you not think OTHER host websites would also require you to include branding banners or logos and/or ads and popups if they were to provide you with UNLIMITED FREE SPACE? Of course, if you are willing to PAY for your web space then that might be a different story--but the RootsWeb space is FREE with very few restrictions. You don't give up ANY ownership or control of your database. I'd also ask for clarification of your statement that Ancestry/RootsWeb encourages you to store your database at Ancestry -- what do you mean by that? I know of no such requirement or "encouragement." "Sold and mixed up with a bunch of poor research?" What exactly do you mean by that? Whatever you mean -- it doesn't happen. As to your second paragraph--I think people should be VERY careful what they say -- what they wish for -- or they just might find it isn't that easy to run more than 30,000 genealogy mailing lists that the community has depended upon for many years nonw, and which draw out many genealogical experts. And did I mention that RootsWeb provides these lists for FREE? You are not going to find or easily build this type of cohesive community elsewhere on the Internet. If enough people keep expressing carelessly thought out statements such as you made above--and keep insisting on biting the hand that is feeding them -- they may find they get what they wish for. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Joan wrote to Debbie: > If enough people keep expressing carelessly thought out statements such as > > you made above--and keep insisting on biting the hand that is feeding > them -- > they may find they get what they wish for. Yeah. And the "free-lunch mob" would say it's all Ancestry's fault. Richard

They definately would, Richard. They have a clause in the agreement with rootsweb users (alhn, ahgp or usgw) that they will not use or sell the data on those sites....tho this is not an exact quote. They DON'T have that agreement with godaddy or anyone else so it seems to me that if a person is looking for the 'safety net' they feel like they need, they should leave their data on rootsweb where they have THAT posted agreement. I just don't 'figger' people sometimes.... But I'm not always the 500 watt bulb some claim to be. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence@pipeline.com> To: <copyright@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages > Joan wrote to Debbie: > >> If enough people keep expressing carelessly thought out statements such >> as >> > you made above--and keep insisting on biting the hand that is feeding >> them -- > they may find they get what they wish for. > > Yeah. And the "free-lunch mob" would say it's all Ancestry's fault. > > Richard > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COPYRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 > 6:13 AM > >