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    1. Re: Gov't "documents" (i.e. books) Vs personal copyright? (forgenealogy)
    2. Jacqueline Baral
    3. Yes, but other opinions would be welcome too. This book is considered public domain due to being written and published by the government and there's no copyright mark. Tom Thatcher wrote: > > I see nothing has appeared on the list yet. Did you get a private answer? > > on 10/15/2000 10:44 PM, Jacqueline Baral at [email protected] > wrote: > > > My book in question has no copyright mark in it. This is what is written > > inside: > > Treasury Department > > United States Coast Guard > > United States > > Government Printing Office > > Washington : 1964 > > For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing > > Office > > Washington D.C., 20402 - Price $2.00 > > There are three points which I think are involved. First, any document > published before 1989 without proper notice of copyright is assumed to be > public domain. > > Second, I think that government works are automatically public domain since > they are public property. I know that government employees can not patent > new technologies developed as part of their jobs. I assume, although I have > not verified it, that the same is true of published works done as part of > someone's government job. > > However, the problem here is that Cmdr. Willoughby may have been acting as a > private citizen, especially since he was retired. The fact that the > government printing office printed to book does not necessarily mean it is a > government document. It would depend on the arrangement at the time--if he > was hired or contracted to write the book, then it becomes a "work for > hire," and the copyright would normally go to the person or company that > hired him, and since that would be the government, then it is likely to be > public domain. > > The third point is that the material you wish to transcribe (vessels' names > and fates) is public property--either the information was publicly > available, or it was in government records, which amounts to the same thing. > No matter how much effort went in to searching and compiling the > information, it can't be copyrighted. > > The bottom line is that Cmdr. Willoughby's unique and creative way of > telling the story of the Rum Wars is probably not copyright protected, and > the material in the appendix is definitely not copyrighted. > > -- > Tom Thatcher > [email protected] > <http://members.rpa.net/~thatcher> > <http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=thatcher-th>

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