Well, first of all they are telling you they don't have the copyright...interesting...I'll bet they published without a copyright consent from the original author...<g>...They are telling you the book was originally copyrighted by the author in 1933...anything after that in their name only copyrights any additional info they may have added to what the author originally put in there...notes, comments etc... The fact that they don't want their book put on the web...just means if you were to scan the book and put it on a web page in it's entirety...cover to cover....with the title page etc...extracting the public information from their book is not covered by any copyright...now, in the past or in the future...it is information as a matter of public record just like court opinions...West just lost that case trying to stop another publisher from doing exactly what Genealogy publishing doesn't want you to do... The information if taken from public records, which most passenger lists are is public information already in the public domain and is not copyrightable...and is fair came for the net.... Charlotte >From: "Stephen and Carol Slotnick" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: copyright confusion >Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:51:16 -0700 > >Dear Mrs. Slotnick, >Thank you for your inquiry regarding the above-titled book published by >Genealogical Publishing Company. The book was copyrighted in 1933 by the >author. We do not grant permission for use of any of our publications on >the >internet. >I am sorry that we are not able to grant your request, but we certainly >appreciate the wonderful efforts you are making in your Palatine research. >Sincerely, Eileen Perkins / Production Manager > > >Carol ><[email protected]> ><[email protected]> >---------------------------------------------------------------- >HOMEPAGE http://www.boxes-in-the-attic.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Charlotte ~ <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 10:07 AM >Subject: Re: copyright confusion > > > >Well, not having seen the material but I agree with you that it is not > >copyrightable to begin with and admitting I'm not that familiar with > >renewing copyrights...but only the original copyright holder can renew a > >copyright not the second republisher unless the original copyright was > >assigned to the republisher, which I doubt... > > > >So the first company, if there was a copyright, would hold the copyright, >if > >they let it lapse the copyright is gone... > > > >Who said you couldn't put it on the web...? > > > >Sometimes a republisher will hold the copyright on any additional > >information added to the original book, but the original book copyright > >could have expired...can't revive it once it's gone... > > > >Charlotte > > > >>From: "Stephen and Carol Slotnick" <[email protected]> > >>To: [email protected] > >>Subject: copyright confusion > >>Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:24:47 -0700 > >> > >>List Members, > >> > >>I am trying to sort out the confusing copyright laws and hope someone >can > >>help. > >> > >>I have a microfiche copy of a book, copyrighted in 1933 which is a > >>compilation of Palatine records, such as "List of Palatine's Into >England", > >>Governor Hunter's Ration Lists" , Palatine Naturalization Records", etc. > >>This book was published by one company in 1933 and then by another >company > >>in 1968 & again in 1999. > >> > >>First, it is my understanding that something copyrighted in 1933 was >under > >>the copyright law that was for 28 years, and could be renewed for an > >>additional 28, if it was done within 2 years. Then if it was renewed >the > >>2nd time in would be protected under the total 75 year laws. (Hope I >have > >>this straight) > >> > >>If it wasn't renewed, then I am assuming that this copyright expired in > >>1961. > >> > >>The problem is, I want to transcribe this information to put on my >website > >>and link to the GenWeb Schoharie site, and I wrote to the present > >>publisher, > >>who told me I could not use this book, and that the author copyrighted >it > >>in > >>1933. > >> > >>I don't believe the information in this book is under copyright law in >the > >>first place, and secondly how can I find out if the 1933 copyright was > >>renewed? I have tried to search the Library of Congress website for >this > >>book, but I cannot find it there. > >> > >>Can a publisher renew a copyright, or would they just take a book that >was > >>expired and publish it? > >> > >>Thanks for any help anyone can give me, > >>Carol > >><[email protected]> > >><[email protected]> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>HOMEPAGE http://www.boxes-in-the-attic.com > >> > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com