Joyce and others, Most of us are just happy that our websites are found by other researchers. While I do not condone Ancestry requiring payment for links to websites, I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to provide a list of resources such as websites that can be searched in the free section of their website. If they sent me an email asking if I had a website and would I like to have it listed at Ancestry so that others might find it - and it was clear that it would be offered freely and that MY website would be represented as mine, not theirs, I would have no problem with it. The issue of the cached pages, however, is more than just the fact that they show the image of a cached page of someone's website on THEIR site, it also brings in another matter - if they were allowed to continue, just how often would the cached pages be updated? Some of us regularly update our websites just like we do our gedcoms. At times we find that our information was erroneous and correct it. While of course a link would provide the way to find the updated information, the cached page, if only that were viewed, would not. Personally, I think that the idea of what they were trying to do is interesting, but I think it was done rather like the old saying of putting the cart before the horse. They should have investigated the ramifications fully before attempting to launch it. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce G. Reece To: copyright@rootsweb.com Sent: 31 August, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages I know that and you know that. Ancestry doesn't crawl down my throat every time my computer caches one of their pages but I do pay for it. I had no problem with it when they moved it over to the 'free' side of their pages. BUT when all the others are objecting to the cached aspect of it is when I thought it should be handled by the leaders of these organizations....I still think so. Explanation, negotiations or communications will be much better handled thru TGN and leaders of these non-proftis....and the results better understood by all member/volunteers. I realize it is a legal issue....as do you. But on the other hand TGN isn't going to want to alienate those volunteers/members/subscribers who have their hands in several or all these 'pots'. Many think the execs in TGN won't listen to or care what the non-profits have to say about this. What do you think? Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <copyright-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages > > In a message dated 8/31/2007 2:06:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: > > Joan > > I'm sure you are watching all the controversy on the other lists. Some > will > say 'absolutely not' it is not nor will ever be 'ok' with them for > ancestry > to use cached pages of thier web sites. > > Others are saying differently. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > --- > Joyce - > > I'm well aware of what is being written. We all know that anyone can have > an > opinion but that doesn't make their opinion factual nor does it mean they > know the law or legal aspects. People tend to write from an emotional > standpoint but copyright is a LEGAL issue. > > Cached pages -- including cached pages for a fee (which isn't what was > being > done here) have been around since the early days of the Internet. AOL > caches pages for their proxy server so that web sites can be quickly > accessed by > their subscribers. Caching pages is a part of Internet life. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COPYRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 > 6:13 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPYRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message