Joan, 1. It is illegal to provide full cached image of file. Google tried and lost in court. 2. Originally this IBC search engine required PAID subscription for access to sites that are FREE not only within Rootsweb but also OUTSIDE the Generations Network such as Political Graveyard (free site), Findagrave, etc. Ancestry changed it to free but it was not enough because of #1 above. Now Ancestry is about to run afoul of the newspaper owners. - same reasons! W. David Samuelsen JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 8/31/2007 1:39:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wmwillis@earthlink.net writes: > > Thank you for that feedback. > > I can see why ancestry would want to preserve a record of a file for > the benefit of future researchers. > After all, most web sites have a very ephemeral existence, and and in > most cases the information would not be available for long. > Not giving people credit for their work, however, is another matter. > > Had ancestry used a different method of displaying the information, > one that say clearly showed that this was a cached version of a > specific file, the original location, ownership, and link, would > they have been OK? > > > > ------ > Actually they DID clearly indicate that the pages were cached and provided a > link the LIVE PAGE that was clearly visible. There was no deception. > Sometimes people just like to complain without understanding the law and without > understanding the issues involved. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPYRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

----- Original Message ----- From: W. David Samuelsen To: copyright@rootsweb.com Sent: 31 August, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages <snip>Now Ancestry is about to run afoul of the newspaper owners. - same reasons! David, You have mentioned the newspaper collections in several of your posts and quite frankly I cannot understand your issue with these collections. The Historical Newspapers clearly come from Newspaperarchive.com for which one would have to pay $99 for an annual membership if using them directly. The obituaries clearly come from Legacy.com and also a large number of the obits they host require payment of $2.95 for one obit for 24 hours of use - in other words - 1 day. Clearly Ancestry has agreements with both Legacy.com and Newspaperarchive.com and this is what part of our subscription to Ancestry pays for. The pages at Ancestry are clearly marked from where they come from. The Historical papers view screen clearly is marked Newspaperarchive.com at the lower left of the view screen and the images themselves also have their name on them at the bottom of the page. The obituary pages, if one scrolls to the bottom of the webpage, it is clearly stated "Powered by Legacy.com". Are you trying to say that we should get LESS for the cost of our subscription to Ancestry? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/

"W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> > 1. It is illegal to provide full cached image of file. Google tried and > lost in court. Oh boy! How much can I sue them for? I just looked. They have "a full cached image" of my web site, complete with the waving flags. Richard A. Pence 3211 Adams Ct, Fairfax, VA 22030-1900 Voice 703-591-4243 / Fax 703-352-3560 Pence Family History <www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/>