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    1. Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages
    2. In a message dated 8/31/2007 3:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: Joan, 1. It is illegal to provide full cached image of file. Google tried and lost in court. 2. Originally this IBC search engine required PAID subscription for access to sites that are FREE not only within Rootsweb but also OUTSIDE the Generations Network such as Political Graveyard (free site), Findagrave, etc. Ancestry changed it to free but it was not enough because of #1 above. Now Ancestry is about to run afoul of the newspaper owners. - same reasons! W. David Samuelsen ----- David- Pat cited legal precedent which proves otherwise, unless you know something we don't know? If so, please provide the source. Caching pages isn't illegal under the circumstances you cite above -- other companies have been doing it for many years with no legal repercussions. What Ancestry had originally planned to include in their subscription services was the patented TOOL to help people FIND the bios. This is very similar to One World Tree providing a search engine to find otherwise free data. The data remained free (as it did in this situation) but the tool was what was being charged for. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

    08/31/2007 09:31:23
    1. Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages
    2. Stanley M. Berkner
    3. Let's ALL wait and see what the courts decide. Anything else is blowing in the wind. Stan B. I am NOT old, I am experienced! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/

    08/31/2007 06:50:47
    1. Re: [COPYRIGHT] Ancestry and Web pages
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: This is very similar to One > World Tree providing a search engine to find otherwise free data. The data > remained free (as it did in this situation) but the tool was what was being > charged for. > > Joan Obvious you have NOT tried without *paid subscription* to know the HUGE difference. They DID require paid subscription to even see a single free site, even USGenWeb Project sites which are free, and even required paid access in order to visit the sites that have NOTHING to do with Ancestry group at all. That inclues the Political Graveyard site, many sites at USGenNet, etc. That is the line Ancestry crossed too far. Also Ancestry went too far - with distorted cache links. Google had clear cache link and they're very clear, very much unlike Ancestry. If you have ACTUALLY seen what the cache link look like, you will not tolerate what Ancestry did. Now it's Obituary Collection - still requiring paid access to see FREE obituaries at many online newspaper sites. Copyright issue here now. W. David Samuelsen

    08/31/2007 09:24:12