My Crumley DNA project requires male participants. There may be projects requiring mitochondrial DNA, but I'm not familiar with them. Since it's common practice for a married woman to take her husband's family name in this country, mitochondrial DNA projects might not be too helpful to genealogists. I found Herman's book to be well researched and documented. Having said that, he made one assumption in my line. My line is well documented back to Peter Copeland b: c1728, Chowan Co., NC. This Peter disposed in a Carolina court in 1755 that "he came from Great Britain in 1743 and had not claimed his headright." Herman had connected this Peter as a son of William and Sarah (Champen) Copeland, who was listed as a Scottish merchant in Caroline Co., VA, in 1750. Herman assumed that "In 1743, Peter evidently returned from a visit to Scotland and England, perhaps to visit his Scotch relatives, since he deposed in a Caroline VA court in 1755...." I supposed Herman assumed this was a way Peter tried to acquire extra land. In any event, using the line as established by Herman, I applied for membership in the Order of Founders and Patriots. Their researcher didn't buy the assumption and, indeed, found another Peter who was William and Sarah's son, not my Peter. It would seem that Peter's statement that he "came from Great Britain in 1743" was likely correct. Perhaps his father and mother came with him, however I haven't been able to satisfactorily connect him to his parents. There was a ray of hope when I found one of Peter's grandsons, Baldwin Copeland, as an ancestor on the Copeland DNA project. Apparently that researcher has a dead end also, because there are no ancestors for Baldwin listed by him. Jerry Crumly Pensacola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" <jeaninnapa@sbcglobal.net> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records- DNA project > Where did Herman go wrong? Is there proof? Help? > I've no Copeland males to do DNA - they all carry their father's name. Can > I do and mTDNA? > Fill me in, please!! > jean > > MacAonghais <a-celt@cox.net> wrote: > That's a good point. I've worked on my Copeland line for many years, as my > mother was a Copeland. One of the DNA project participants has his line > back > to Baldwin Copeland, a brother of one of my ancestors. I know who his > father > and grandfather are, but after that there are various lines mixed together > with the same names. For a long time I assumed the Herman Coplen book had > it > correctly, but it was disproved by a researcher for the Order of Founders > and Patriots when I tried to join. I organized a DNA project for my own > family, and I recognize what a great tool it is if there are enough > participants. Sadly, we haven't been able to get nearly as many > participants > as the Copeland project. > > Jerry Crumly