I will just have to take Herman's reference list with me to SLC. Some of those books may be on the shelves there. Wish me luck. jean MacAonghais <a-celt@cox.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland DNA project > You really put a new light on this line. Thank you for the information. > Now, I have to go back and re-check everything. One thing that bothers me: > is this the same line - it can't be - from Wm./Mary/Grace? Well, that's what Herman recorded. The OFP reseacher came up with a book, which he sent me copies of a few pages, entitled The Copeland Family of Moore County, NC. It's date is January 1984, authored by John W. Copeland, but without a publisher's page. In it the author documents that there were two Peter Copelands of about the same age, one who died in Caroline Co., VA, or Pittsylvania Co., VA around 1800, and one who died in Jackson Springs, NC around 1778. He shows that the Peter Copeland son of William and Sarah (Champen) was the one who moved to Jackson Springs, NC. MY Peter Copeland, however, was the Caroline County man, and his lineage is traced directly to me. He's the one who arrived from Great Britain in 1743. He and his brother were factors for their father who was a Scottish merchant. > Herman says that they were members of the group brought to the south bank > of the Rappahannock River in Lancaster County, Virginia. > Sir Thomas Luntsford was issued a land patent on 24 October 1650 for 3,423 > acres and for the transport of 65 persons including William & Mary > Copeland. > That information comes from a book Herman cites: > "Cavaliers & Pioneers" by Nell Marion Nugent, Volumes I, II & III, > Genealogical Publishing Co., 1979 > Let's start with that information and get some input from all of you, out > there. > Does anyone have a copy of that book? Well, not the entire book. But I have copies of the referenced pages. The info you cite is on page 200 of Volume I. In addition to confusion between the two Peter Copelands, there are more William Copelands as well whose lines are mixed up. A researcher once told me that digging back into old notes and research documents which you had filed away is like dating an ex wife: somewhat familiar but not very much fun. When I received the LARGE envelope of documents on my Copeland line from the Order of Founders and Patriots, I threw up my hands and filed them away. Tonight was the first time I have looked at them since Nov 2002. It was indeed somewhat familiar but no fun at all. Jerry Crumly ==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra