I think Herman's references are all correct. We've all made his mistake at least once in our research, finding a person who seems to fit and then trying to find the documentation to make it true. In the case of Peter Copeland, there were two about the same age, so Herman assumed Peter was lying about immigrating from Great Britain. I've got numerous reference documents, Xerox copies of the original books. If you can't find a particular reference let me know and I'll see if I have it. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" <jeaninnapa@sbcglobal.net> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Peter Copelands >I will just have to take Herman's reference list with me to SLC. Some of >those books may be on the shelves there. > Wish me luck. > jean