Jean, Herman Coplen died in 1992. I bought the book from his wife. Her address in 1994 was Betty Coplen 7815 Shimmer River Lane Citrus Heights CA 95610 She told me at that time she had about 15 left. She also told me her step son Phil had about 30 left. At that time Phil was living in Dallas Texas. She said he worked for IBM and moved alot. I don't know if Betty is still living or where Phil is now. She did tell me Herman is not mentioned in the book. He only listed his father who was also Herman. If you can find Betty or Phil you might be able to get a copy. She was selling them for $20.00 at that time. Cathy Coplen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" <jeaninnapa@sbcglobal.net> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records > Eddie, I'm sorry. I"ve not been able to get a copy of Herman's book, for > myself. Our local gen. library has a copy, thanx to the California Gen. > Society that had an extra. Ohio Gen. Society has a copy and they will lend > books to members - by mail. > Herman died in the early 1990s and I've been unable to find his family up > in the Sierra foothills. His book was self-published and, as far as I > know, there are no more. My copy is a Xerox of his book that I did on our > library's copy machine. What a task! But, I had it spiral bound and it's > been very useful. > I have one other source: William Copeland. He has been collecting all > Copeland info for years. But, I've not heard from Bill for a long time and > he was not well the last time I contacted him. > > You mentioned proof, I believe. I'm trying to be very careful about what I > say. I have lots of info but most of it has come from others. I've not dug > into that family prior to the Civil War. So, I'm offering help for those > who would like to research and find proof on their own. > Unfortunately, I have a "Tree" somewhere on the internet - done ages ago. > I can't find it! Do you believe that? But, I did qualify my tree as > information that needed to be researched by the reader. Hope that helps. > jean > > Eddie Davis <ec21davis@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Thank you for the data -- the Copelands are a "new" branch that I'm > researching, though I have researched Hezekiah Lasater that Elizabeth > Copeland married. Ancestry.com , while a great genealogy site, often > has conflicting genealogies and that was the case with the James > Copeland line. One person gets a Gedcom of some research and then puts > it on-line as their line without checking sources. The Nicholas > Copeland line was not sourced, but the James and Diana line seemed to > have slightly more data. My gut feeling from about 15 years of research > was that the James and Diana line was probably correct, but I wanted to > be sure. Is Mr. Coplen's book still in print, and if so, how much is it? > > Eddie Davis > Ec21davis@sbcglobal.net > > > > Jean Mattox wrote: > >>Note to all::I've been using Herman Coplen's book as reference and a guide >>to research. He's done a terrific job of extensive research. >>He begins with Wm./Mary/Grace as immigrants to Virginia. >>According to HC, Wm. & Grace had two sons born in Virginia. He only traces >>William (Jr.) and neglects one other son, John, born in VA C1669. Why, I >>don't know.........I haven't dug that deep, there. >>William (Jr.) m. Christian (no surname). They had: >>Grace, William (III), John, James, Charles (Sr.), Christian, Sarah....all >>born in Virginia. Some died in NC. >> >>Going with James: he married a Diana (no surname). They had, in NC, >>William, John, James, Mary >> >>Staying with James s/o James above, he m. Elizabeth (no surname). He was >>b. in Chowan Co. & d. Chatham Co in NC. >>James & Elizabeth had: >>John, Daniel, James, Lillah, Silvy, Liddy, Elizabeth, Franky, Susannah, >>Sally, Dolly, David, Anne, Cleo. >> >>That's the end of Herman's interest in any of the Copelands named James. I >>had not noticed it when I went thru his book. My line descends thru the >>Johns, from there. I was fortunate that Herman traced the Copeland line >>sufficiently for me to find my paternal greatgrandmother, Ursula Copeland >>Bechdolt, b. in OH & died in Los Angeles. >> >>PS Herman lists no one by the name of Nicholas, in his index of Copelands. >>Sounds like that was another bunch of immigrants to our country. There's a >>line that came from Loudon Co. in VA. And, apparently, some entered the US >>thru PA. >>>From VA, to Chowan and Chatham in NC was a common "path". Herman claims >>>that the branch I came from moved out of NC into OH to leave a >>>slave-holding state. Also, One of the brides was a Quaker and ostrazised >>>for leaving her faith......stories, stories, stories. We all have them. >>Herman's book has some not too great fotos - I'm working from a zerox copy >>of his book. It's unavailable. He had it printed, himself, and he has >>since died. Been unable to locate his family. >>jean >> >> >> >> >>MacAonghais wrote: >>There are several Copelands with the same first names and almost the same >>ages in that area. They're probably all first cousins, named after some >>paternal grandfather. My line is mixed up in them, too. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Nancy Jones" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:43 PM >>Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records >> >> >> >> >>>I am hoping someone can answer your question too, >>>cousin. I descend from James Jr Copeland and Elizabeth >>>Johnston's son Daniel (this is one of my 2 Copeland >>>lines). 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Checked the SSDI and she's not listed there. Called 411 and got a phone #. It's not yet 0900, so I'll wait a little. Since it's Saturday, I don't wanna call too early. Can't tell you how neat your info is.......... jean Cathy Coplen <ccoplen@gte.net> wrote: Jean, Herman Coplen died in 1992. I bought the book from his wife. Her address in 1994 was Betty Coplen 7815 Shimmer River Lane Citrus Heights CA 95610 She told me at that time she had about 15 left. She also told me her step son Phil had about 30 left. At that time Phil was living in Dallas Texas. She said he worked for IBM and moved alot. I don't know if Betty is still living or where Phil is now. She did tell me Herman is not mentioned in the book. He only listed his father who was also Herman. If you can find Betty or Phil you might be able to get a copy. She was selling them for $20.00 at that time. Cathy Coplen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records > Eddie, I'm sorry. I"ve not been able to get a copy of Herman's book, for > myself. Our local gen. library has a copy, thanx to the California Gen. > Society that had an extra. Ohio Gen. Society has a copy and they will lend > books to members - by mail. > Herman died in the early 1990s and I've been unable to find his family up > in the Sierra foothills. His book was self-published and, as far as I > know, there are no more. My copy is a Xerox of his book that I did on our > library's copy machine. What a task! But, I had it spiral bound and it's > been very useful. > I have one other source: William Copeland. He has been collecting all > Copeland info for years. But, I've not heard from Bill for a long time and > he was not well the last time I contacted him. > > You mentioned proof, I believe. I'm trying to be very careful about what I > say. I have lots of info but most of it has come from others. I've not dug > into that family prior to the Civil War. So, I'm offering help for those > who would like to research and find proof on their own. > Unfortunately, I have a "Tree" somewhere on the internet - done ages ago. > I can't find it! Do you believe that? But, I did qualify my tree as > information that needed to be researched by the reader. Hope that helps. > jean > > Eddie Davis wrote: > Thank you for the data -- the Copelands are a "new" branch that I'm > researching, though I have researched Hezekiah Lasater that Elizabeth > Copeland married. Ancestry.com , while a great genealogy site, often > has conflicting genealogies and that was the case with the James > Copeland line. One person gets a Gedcom of some research and then puts > it on-line as their line without checking sources. The Nicholas > Copeland line was not sourced, but the James and Diana line seemed to > have slightly more data. My gut feeling from about 15 years of research > was that the James and Diana line was probably correct, but I wanted to > be sure. Is Mr. Coplen's book still in print, and if so, how much is it? > > Eddie Davis > Ec21davis@sbcglobal.net > > > > Jean Mattox wrote: > >>Note to all::I've been using Herman Coplen's book as reference and a guide >>to research. He's done a terrific job of extensive research. >>He begins with Wm./Mary/Grace as immigrants to Virginia. >>According to HC, Wm. & Grace had two sons born in Virginia. He only traces >>William (Jr.) and neglects one other son, John, born in VA C1669. Why, I >>don't know.........I haven't dug that deep, there. >>William (Jr.) m. Christian (no surname). They had: >>Grace, William (III), John, James, Charles (Sr.), Christian, Sarah....all >>born in Virginia. Some died in NC. >> >>Going with James: he married a Diana (no surname). They had, in NC, >>William, John, James, Mary >> >>Staying with James s/o James above, he m. Elizabeth (no surname). He was >>b. in Chowan Co. & d. Chatham Co in NC. >>James & Elizabeth had: >>John, Daniel, James, Lillah, Silvy, Liddy, Elizabeth, Franky, Susannah, >>Sally, Dolly, David, Anne, Cleo. >> >>That's the end of Herman's interest in any of the Copelands named James. I >>had not noticed it when I went thru his book. My line descends thru the >>Johns, from there. I was fortunate that Herman traced the Copeland line >>sufficiently for me to find my paternal greatgrandmother, Ursula Copeland >>Bechdolt, b. in OH & died in Los Angeles. >> >>PS Herman lists no one by the name of Nicholas, in his index of Copelands. >>Sounds like that was another bunch of immigrants to our country. There's a >>line that came from Loudon Co. in VA. And, apparently, some entered the US >>thru PA. >>>From VA, to Chowan and Chatham in NC was a common "path". Herman claims >>>that the branch I came from moved out of NC into OH to leave a >>>slave-holding state. Also, One of the brides was a Quaker and ostrazised >>>for leaving her faith......stories, stories, stories. We all have them. >>Herman's book has some not too great fotos - I'm working from a zerox copy >>of his book. It's unavailable. He had it printed, himself, and he has >>since died. Been unable to locate his family. >>jean >> >> >> >> >>MacAonghais wrote: >>There are several Copelands with the same first names and almost the same >>ages in that area. They're probably all first cousins, named after some >>paternal grandfather. My line is mixed up in them, too. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Nancy Jones" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:43 PM >>Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records >> >> >> >> >>>I am hoping someone can answer your question too, >>>cousin. I descend from James Jr Copeland and Elizabeth >>>Johnston's son Daniel (this is one of my 2 Copeland >>>lines). I have seen the online discrepancy and I >>>believe some researchers have mixed up two of the >>>several Nicholas Copelands. >>>Nancy Jones >>> >>> >>>dotsicle >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== >>To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com >> >>To unsubscribe from List Mode: >>mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >> >>To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: >>mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >> >>AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com >>(In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe >>in the body of the message. >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. 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