Rather than being a "brickwall" this is more a heavy impenetrable brick that I am trying to fit into a newly constructed branch of my family tree - which I realize is rather a mixed metaphor. I am aware that some of the details may seem a little indistinct but I think it may be better to indicate which I am certain about, and which there is still some doubt. Patricia LOWE (nee COPELAND) was my grand aunt and the daughter of Joseph COPELAND and Elizabeth (Lizzie) McCLYMONT. I am not certain of her DOB and I can't find her in either the 1881 or 1901 census, but I have been told that she was born in London(?) and her sister, my Grandmother, was born c1880. She died in Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England. She married James LOWE and they had Len, Harry Joe and Lizzie. Lizzie, who went by the surname of LOWE, was either fostered or adopted by James and Patricia being her niece. Lizzie's parents were probably William COPELAND (or Bill BROADBENT) and probably Alice WARD. (I have been going through the 1901 census - paying my money - and finding out more about my COPELAND family. My COPELAND family, while originating in Scotland as far back as I can trace, spread as far as I know in the 1800s and early 1900s to Co Durham, Yorkshire, Northumberland and Liverpool. Jim Jim and Bev Payne New Zealand [email protected]