Hi Harlan and Jim, Please, check out the Copeland DNA Project. Our goal is to find the relationships between all Copeland lines. Click on "DNA Test Results' at the left to see the earliest ancestors of the participants with the matching DNA displayed in the matching colors. Of course, not all our members are displayed as we are lacking some of the Trees and results. http://small-stuff.com/COPELAND/index.htm Julia French Wood In a message dated 11/8/2006 1:36:48 PM Central Standard Time, jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz writes: Harlan Thank you for your interest. I have been able to trace my family back to Ireland and then his son who served in the English army stayed in Scotland, after his demob during the Napoleonic Wars, in Wigtown where there are lots of COPELANDs I haven't looked into DNA testing Jim