I have never heard that Nicholas Copeland was "killed." What was the cause of his death? Also did not know that he was a surveyor. Where did this info come from? I know that there is confusion regarding the parentage of James Copeland that married Lydia Dill but, just for my input - I show James Copeland Jr (grandson of Nicholas Copeland) married Lydia Dill. This is not my direct line so it certainly could be wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Jones" <dotsicle5@sbcglobal.net> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records > This is all I have about the Dill family Bible. The > gentleman from whom I got the info may have more > details. The "uncle William" who raised James is my > direct ancestor. > > JAMES COPELAND was born in 1742 in Virginia and was > the last son born to NICHOLAS COPELAND and wife NANCY > LOTT. He was born in the year of his father's death. > His father was a surveyor and was killed before > providing his survey to the court in regards to a > legal battle over some contested land. It was at this > time that the Copelands and children appear in North > Carolina. Young James was raised by his > uncle William Copeland and wife Margery who was the > sister of Nancy Lott. James Copeland married Lydia > Dill who was the daughter of Peter Dill of Rowan > County, North Carolina. William Copeland lived on > Second Creek, before moving to Chatham County. Peter > Dill lived on Abbotts Creek. The marriage of Lydia > Dill to James Copeland is recorded in the JOHN DILL > BIBLE dated 1820 and records that they were married in > 1769 in Salisbury. The Bible states that James is " > THE SON OF NICH. COPLAND OF VIRGINIA" and his bondsman > is " WM. COPLAND, his uncle." Records also indicate > that he lived in Sullivan County, TENN. which was once > a part of western North Carolina. Three land grants > were given to JOSEPH COPELAND - WILLIAM COPELAND_ and > JAMES COPELAND. James was a neighbor of Archibald > Dill, a cousin to LYDIA DILL COPELAND, who was living > close to him on the Long Island of the Holstein. In > 1786 James tried to sell his land to a man named > RUSSELL. For whatever reason, the sale fell through. > James sold the land to his brother William and it was > witnessed by Joseph Copeland. William Copeland and the > man named Russell remained in this area and both were > signers of the petition for the State of Franklin. > Joseph Copeland went to Jefferson with his desc. being > born and buried in Overton. James Copeland and wife > Lydia went to Greenville, South Carolina. He appeared > on the 1790 Census for that county . He left in 1799 > and went to Roane county, Tenn. and then to Madison > County, Alabama where he died in 1811. his son , James > Copeland, Jr (b. 1791 in SC) wife, and his mother > Lydia went to Wayne County, Tenn in the 1820s. They > are all buried in a family cemetery located now in > Hardin County. > FROM: Michael G. Copeland junostar@airmail.net > 10/13/2001 > > > dotsicle > > > ==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe from List Mode: > mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: > mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe > in the body of the message. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

The gentleman from whom I got the info on Nicholas/Nancy is: Michael G. Copeland junostar@airmail.net I do not know if his e-mail address is current. dotsicle

This is all I have about the Dill family Bible. The gentleman from whom I got the info may have more details. The "uncle William" who raised James is my direct ancestor. JAMES COPELAND was born in 1742 in Virginia and was the last son born to NICHOLAS COPELAND and wife NANCY LOTT. He was born in the year of his father's death. His father was a surveyor and was killed before providing his survey to the court in regards to a legal battle over some contested land. It was at this time that the Copelands and children appear in North Carolina. Young James was raised by his uncle William Copeland and wife Margery who was the sister of Nancy Lott. James Copeland married Lydia Dill who was the daughter of Peter Dill of Rowan County, North Carolina. William Copeland lived on Second Creek, before moving to Chatham County. Peter Dill lived on Abbotts Creek. The marriage of Lydia Dill to James Copeland is recorded in the JOHN DILL BIBLE dated 1820 and records that they were married in 1769 in Salisbury. The Bible states that James is " THE SON OF NICH. COPLAND OF VIRGINIA" and his bondsman is " WM. COPLAND, his uncle." Records also indicate that he lived in Sullivan County, TENN. which was once a part of western North Carolina. Three land grants were given to JOSEPH COPELAND - WILLIAM COPELAND_ and JAMES COPELAND. James was a neighbor of Archibald Dill, a cousin to LYDIA DILL COPELAND, who was living close to him on the Long Island of the Holstein. In 1786 James tried to sell his land to a man named RUSSELL. For whatever reason, the sale fell through. James sold the land to his brother William and it was witnessed by Joseph Copeland. William Copeland and the man named Russell remained in this area and both were signers of the petition for the State of Franklin. Joseph Copeland went to Jefferson with his desc. being born and buried in Overton. James Copeland and wife Lydia went to Greenville, South Carolina. He appeared on the 1790 Census for that county . He left in 1799 and went to Roane county, Tenn. and then to Madison County, Alabama where he died in 1811. his son , James Copeland, Jr (b. 1791 in SC) wife, and his mother Lydia went to Wayne County, Tenn in the 1820s. They are all buried in a family cemetery located now in Hardin County. FROM: Michael G. Copeland junostar@airmail.net 10/13/2001 dotsicle

Is anyone researching COPELANDS, HARVEYS and WHITES in the Sequatchie Valley area of Tennessee? Looking for ancestors of Joseph P. COPELAND b. 1849 d.1908 His siblings were Daniel and Mary. Joseph was married to Ollie Ann HARVEY b. Feb. 1846 d. 1922 they married May 20, 1869 and lived in Whitwell, TN Their children: Adaline b. 8/14/1871 m. Joseph Woodson WHITE(my line)b. 1869 d. 1920 Martha b. abt. 1875 m. John Wemberley Charles b. 10/29/1874 1m. Dollie Harwood 2m. Lila Haynes Sally(Sarah) b. 11/6/1865 1m. Joseph Bryant 2m. Martin Hicks John W. b. June 1882 Evelyn B. b. abt. 1879 m. Cartwright Elizabeth b. abt. 1873 Mary E. b. abt. 1870 Thanks Nancy in St. Louis

In a message dated 9/14/05 3:15:47 PM, dotsicle5@sbcglobal.net writes: > James Copeland, son of Nicholas and Nancy, was born > abt 1842 and married Lydia Dill. A Dill family Bible > confirms this. > Did this family Bible have the names of Nicholas Copeland and Nancy Lott, and a marriage date and place for them? I have never been able to find this Nicholas and Nancy. Barbara

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" <jeaninnapa@sbcglobal.net> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland DNA project > You really put a new light on this line. Thank you for the information. > Now, I have to go back and re-check everything. One thing that bothers me: > is this the same line - it can't be - from Wm./Mary/Grace? Well, that's what Herman recorded. The OFP reseacher came up with a book, which he sent me copies of a few pages, entitled The Copeland Family of Moore County, NC. It's date is January 1984, authored by John W. Copeland, but without a publisher's page. In it the author documents that there were two Peter Copelands of about the same age, one who died in Caroline Co., VA, or Pittsylvania Co., VA around 1800, and one who died in Jackson Springs, NC around 1778. He shows that the Peter Copeland son of William and Sarah (Champen) was the one who moved to Jackson Springs, NC. MY Peter Copeland, however, was the Caroline County man, and his lineage is traced directly to me. He's the one who arrived from Great Britain in 1743. He and his brother were factors for their father who was a Scottish merchant. > Herman says that they were members of the group brought to the south bank > of the Rappahannock River in Lancaster County, Virginia. > Sir Thomas Luntsford was issued a land patent on 24 October 1650 for 3,423 > acres and for the transport of 65 persons including William & Mary > Copeland. > That information comes from a book Herman cites: > "Cavaliers & Pioneers" by Nell Marion Nugent, Volumes I, II & III, > Genealogical Publishing Co., 1979 > Let's start with that information and get some input from all of you, out > there. > Does anyone have a copy of that book? Well, not the entire book. But I have copies of the referenced pages. The info you cite is on page 200 of Volume I. In addition to confusion between the two Peter Copelands, there are more William Copelands as well whose lines are mixed up. A researcher once told me that digging back into old notes and research documents which you had filed away is like dating an ex wife: somewhat familiar but not very much fun. When I received the LARGE envelope of documents on my Copeland line from the Order of Founders and Patriots, I threw up my hands and filed them away. Tonight was the first time I have looked at them since Nov 2002. It was indeed somewhat familiar but no fun at all. Jerry Crumly

No credit due me. I've not taken out the time to trace my Copelands past the Civil War period. Most of my information has been gathered, and not proven, thru Herman Coplen and Bill Copeland and the Copeland surname list. I'm hearing that Herman was wrong and don't know where. Also, we need to split apart, unravel, the various Copelands that may not, necessarily, be related to each of our separate "lines". Herman's work seems clear and careful, to me. But, as I said, I've not gone out of Ohio in my research other than to be aware that the immigrants to Ohio were from North Carolina. Herman cites some small stories with his trees and, in the periods closer to now, he has some fotos in his book. That's nice - even if they're way off on another branch, from me. I hadn't planned to do any Copeland research while in SLC next week but I may try to see if they have the books that Herman used. I have a pressing need to clarify information on my German ancestors and one lost Irishman. jean bbm34 <bbm34@prodigy.net> wrote: Jean - there have been so many emails that I am not sure exactly what YOUR info says and I would like to know. You have always been pretty much on the right track. ==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

That site is temporarily down, probably for a long time.

Jean - there have been so many emails that I am not sure exactly what YOUR info says and I would like to know. You have always been pretty much on the right track.

My Crumley DNA project requires male participants. There may be projects requiring mitochondrial DNA, but I'm not familiar with them. Since it's common practice for a married woman to take her husband's family name in this country, mitochondrial DNA projects might not be too helpful to genealogists. I found Herman's book to be well researched and documented. Having said that, he made one assumption in my line. My line is well documented back to Peter Copeland b: c1728, Chowan Co., NC. This Peter disposed in a Carolina court in 1755 that "he came from Great Britain in 1743 and had not claimed his headright." Herman had connected this Peter as a son of William and Sarah (Champen) Copeland, who was listed as a Scottish merchant in Caroline Co., VA, in 1750. Herman assumed that "In 1743, Peter evidently returned from a visit to Scotland and England, perhaps to visit his Scotch relatives, since he deposed in a Caroline VA court in 1755...." I supposed Herman assumed this was a way Peter tried to acquire extra land. In any event, using the line as established by Herman, I applied for membership in the Order of Founders and Patriots. Their researcher didn't buy the assumption and, indeed, found another Peter who was William and Sarah's son, not my Peter. It would seem that Peter's statement that he "came from Great Britain in 1743" was likely correct. Perhaps his father and mother came with him, however I haven't been able to satisfactorily connect him to his parents. There was a ray of hope when I found one of Peter's grandsons, Baldwin Copeland, as an ancestor on the Copeland DNA project. Apparently that researcher has a dead end also, because there are no ancestors for Baldwin listed by him. Jerry Crumly Pensacola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" <jeaninnapa@sbcglobal.net> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records- DNA project > Where did Herman go wrong? Is there proof? Help? > I've no Copeland males to do DNA - they all carry their father's name. Can > I do and mTDNA? > Fill me in, please!! > jean > > MacAonghais <a-celt@cox.net> wrote: > That's a good point. I've worked on my Copeland line for many years, as my > mother was a Copeland. One of the DNA project participants has his line > back > to Baldwin Copeland, a brother of one of my ancestors. I know who his > father > and grandfather are, but after that there are various lines mixed together > with the same names. For a long time I assumed the Herman Coplen book had > it > correctly, but it was disproved by a researcher for the Order of Founders > and Patriots when I tried to join. I organized a DNA project for my own > family, and I recognize what a great tool it is if there are enough > participants. Sadly, we haven't been able to get nearly as many > participants > as the Copeland project. > > Jerry Crumly

James Copeland, son of Nicholas and Nancy, was born abt 1842 and married Lydia Dill. A Dill family Bible confirms this. This James' father died the year he was born, so James was raised by his uncle William Copeland (my direct ancestor through my GGgrandfather). James Copeland, son of James and Diana, was born abt 1734 and married Elizabeth Johnston. He is also my direct ancestor, through my GGgrandmother. dotsicle

You really put a new light on this line. Thank you for the information. Now, I have to go back and re-check everything. One thing that bothers me: is this the same line - it can't be - from Wm./Mary/Grace? Herman says that they were members of the group brought to the south bank of the Rappahannock River in Lancaster County, Virginia. Sir Thomas Luntsford was issued a land patent on 24 October 1650 for 3,423 acres and for the transport of 65 persons including William & Mary Copeland. That information comes from a book Herman cites: "Cavaliers & Pioneers" by Nell Marion Nugent, Volumes I, II & III, Genealogical Publishing Co., 1979 Let's start with that information and get some input from all of you, out there. Does anyone have a copy of that book? I wasn't gonna tell anyone but, am driving to Salt Lake City next week. Had not planned to work on my Copeland line. But, will take a list of the books that Herman cited to see if the library has them. What happens after that, I dunno. Can't check out the books and I'll be pinched for time. One more thing: The Copeland name & variations thereof, was found all over England & Scotland & even in Ireland. Herman mentions the Quaker Missionary's immigration (John) & David in Loudon Co. from Ireland & Joseph (birth in either VA or NC). But, there's no question that there were many others. Be comforted, for we are many. jean MacAonghais <a-celt@cox.net> wrote: My Crumley DNA project requires male participants. There may be projects requiring mitochondrial DNA, but I'm not familiar with them. Since it's common practice for a married woman to take her husband's family name in this country, mitochondrial DNA projects might not be too helpful to genealogists. I found Herman's book to be well researched and documented. Having said that, he made one assumption in my line. My line is well documented back to Peter Copeland b: c1728, Chowan Co., NC. This Peter disposed in a Carolina court in 1755 that "he came from Great Britain in 1743 and had not claimed his headright." Herman had connected this Peter as a son of William and Sarah (Champen) Copeland, who was listed as a Scottish merchant in Caroline Co., VA, in 1750. Herman assumed that "In 1743, Peter evidently returned from a visit to Scotland and England, perhaps to visit his Scotch relatives, since he deposed in a Caroline VA court in 1755...." I supposed Herman assumed this was a way Peter tried to acquire extra land. In any event, using the line as established by Herman, I applied for membership in the Order of Founders and Patriots. Their researcher didn't buy the assumption and, indeed, found another Peter who was William and Sarah's son, not my Peter. It would seem that Peter's statement that he "came from Great Britain in 1743" was likely correct. Perhaps his father and mother came with him, however I haven't been able to satisfactorily connect him to his parents. There was a ray of hope when I found one of Peter's grandsons, Baldwin Copeland, as an ancestor on the Copeland DNA project. Apparently that researcher has a dead end also, because there are no ancestors for Baldwin listed by him. Jerry Crumly Pensacola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Mattox" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records- DNA project > Where did Herman go wrong? Is there proof? Help? > I've no Copeland males to do DNA - they all carry their father's name. Can > I do and mTDNA? > Fill me in, please!! > jean > > MacAonghais wrote: > That's a good point. I've worked on my Copeland line for many years, as my > mother was a Copeland. One of the DNA project participants has his line > back > to Baldwin Copeland, a brother of one of my ancestors. I know who his > father > and grandfather are, but after that there are various lines mixed together > with the same names. For a long time I assumed the Herman Coplen book had > it > correctly, but it was disproved by a researcher for the Order of Founders > and Patriots when I tried to join. I organized a DNA project for my own > family, and I recognize what a great tool it is if there are enough > participants. Sadly, we haven't been able to get nearly as many > participants > as the Copeland project. > > Jerry Crumly ==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Sorry, I wasn't using my head - it's the Bureau of Land Management site: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ See if they can help you.......... jean Eddie Davis <ec21davis@sbcglobal.net> wrote: What is the BLM website? Eddie Davis Ec21davis@sbcglobal.net Jean Mattox wrote: >Eddie, did you try the BLM website? > >Eddie Davis wrote:Is there anyone on this list that could help me find out what happened >to a piece of land? I'm researching the family of James Copeland and >his wife Diana ____. James died in Chowan County sometime around 1752 >as his will was made on March 13th of that year. In the will he >mentions "a tract of land on the Chowan River" which he willed to his >son James Jr. >James Copeland Jr. is who I'm trying to find. My ancestor named James >Copeland married an Elizabeth Johnson and moved to Chatham County, NC >where their daughter Elizabeth was born in 1762. But on the Internet >are two conflicting ancestries of James. One has his parents as >Nicholas Copeland and Nancy Lott and the other has James Copeland and >Diana _____. There is no data for Nicholas, but as James who married >Diana left a will, I'm hoping I could find what happened to the land he >willed to his son James Jr. If James Jr. sold it soon after, I'm hoping >his wife's name will be mentioned and maybe this will be some >documentation to settle this confusion. If he lived there past 1762 >then I will know that James Jr. can't be my James, as I know he was in >Chatham County by then. > >So I guess I'm wondering if there is any will or land transfer record >for a James Copeland after 1752 and before 1762 or 63. > > > ==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Where did Herman go wrong? Is there proof? Help? I've no Copeland males to do DNA - they all carry their father's name. Can I do and mTDNA? Fill me in, please!! jean MacAonghais <a-celt@cox.net> wrote: That's a good point. I've worked on my Copeland line for many years, as my mother was a Copeland. One of the DNA project participants has his line back to Baldwin Copeland, a brother of one of my ancestors. I know who his father and grandfather are, but after that there are various lines mixed together with the same names. For a long time I assumed the Herman Coplen book had it correctly, but it was disproved by a researcher for the Order of Founders and Patriots when I tried to join. I organized a DNA project for my own family, and I recognize what a great tool it is if there are enough participants. Sadly, we haven't been able to get nearly as many participants as the Copeland project. Jerry Crumly ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records- DNA project >I think if the Copeland DNA Project gets enough male Copelands to >participate > in DNA testing, that it could establish family DNA haplotypes of the > different Copeland families, that we could at the very least establish for > someone at > a deadend in their research which Copeland immigrant family they descend > from. > If you are a male Copeland and have matching DNA with proven descendants > of > an early Copeland, you can focus your research on filling in the missing > generations. I have worked on some of my families from "both ends" and > it has > been immensely helpful in solving roadblocks. Information about the > project > and how to participate can be found at their web site: > COPELAND, COPLIN, COPELIN, COPLEN, COPELAN -- Surname DNA Project > http://www.small-stuff.com/COPELAND/ > > Barbara Good ==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

My database shows the James Copeland that married Elizabeth (John(s)ton to be the son of Nicholas and Nancy (Lott) Copeland. Is this wrong? Since this is not my direct line I have done no research on it. Please let me know if I am wrong.

Wrong? Who knows! My information comes from a Copeland/Coplen book that is very well researched. But, that doesn't mean he didn't make any mistakes. It rings true for me and it traces my most recent Copeland back to William/Mary/Grace arriving C1648 in Virginia. As I mentioned, earlier, there is not one Nicholas listed in this book's index. That tells me that there were other Copelands landing on our shores - or - Herman didn't root a Nicholas up and they are part of our legacy unknown to him. Just because he didn't mention or find them could be simply not coming across anything where a Nicholas appeared. We know, for sure, from other members of this list that there were Copelands coming in from Pennsylvania, also --- so, beware. Nicholas is bound to be connected in a positve way. One other caveat, Herman printed his book in 1983 after many years of research and information from others researching this line. Even tho he dug up early records of land purchases and career descriptions and baptisms, a lot more info is available, right now, that might not have been at his fingertips during the years prior to 1983. I'm using Herman's book as a guide because I'm impressed with his research. But, I repeat, it's a guide.!!! I'll share whatever he has with anyone but that will provide only a guide, not a primary source. PS. I'm also receiving a lot of information on my family from the surname lists on rootsweb. It's neat to see what's coming in and meeting up with distant cousins. Keep digging, jean "My database shows the James Copeland that married Elizabeth (John(s)ton to be the son of Nicholas and Nancy (Lott) Copeland. Is this wrong? Since this is not my direct line I have done no research on it. Please let me know if I am wrong." If that's right, it tears my database all to H___!! I hope someone can come up with some answers. "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

I think if the Copeland DNA Project gets enough male Copelands to participate in DNA testing, that it could establish family DNA haplotypes of the different Copeland families, that we could at the very least establish for someone at a deadend in their research which Copeland immigrant family they descend from. If you are a male Copeland and have matching DNA with proven descendants of an early Copeland, you can focus your research on filling in the missing generations. I have worked on some of my families from "both ends" and it has been immensely helpful in solving roadblocks. Information about the project and how to participate can be found at their web site: COPELAND, COPLIN, COPELIN, COPLEN, COPELAN -- Surname DNA Project http://www.small-stuff.com/COPELAND/ Barbara Good

That's a good point. I've worked on my Copeland line for many years, as my mother was a Copeland. One of the DNA project participants has his line back to Baldwin Copeland, a brother of one of my ancestors. I know who his father and grandfather are, but after that there are various lines mixed together with the same names. For a long time I assumed the Herman Coplen book had it correctly, but it was disproved by a researcher for the Order of Founders and Patriots when I tried to join. I organized a DNA project for my own family, and I recognize what a great tool it is if there are enough participants. Sadly, we haven't been able to get nearly as many participants as the Copeland project. Jerry Crumly ----- Original Message ----- From: <BWGood@aol.com> To: <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] Copeland land records- DNA project >I think if the Copeland DNA Project gets enough male Copelands to >participate > in DNA testing, that it could establish family DNA haplotypes of the > different Copeland families, that we could at the very least establish for > someone at > a deadend in their research which Copeland immigrant family they descend > from. > If you are a male Copeland and have matching DNA with proven descendants > of > an early Copeland, you can focus your research on filling in the missing > generations. I have worked on some of my families from "both ends" and > it has > been immensely helpful in solving roadblocks. Information about the > project > and how to participate can be found at their web site: > COPELAND, COPLIN, COPELIN, COPLEN, COPELAN -- Surname DNA Project > http://www.small-stuff.com/COPELAND/ > > Barbara Good

What is the BLM website? Eddie Davis Ec21davis@sbcglobal.net Jean Mattox wrote: >Eddie, did you try the BLM website? > >Eddie Davis <ec21davis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:Is there anyone on this list that could help me find out what happened >to a piece of land? I'm researching the family of James Copeland and >his wife Diana ____. James died in Chowan County sometime around 1752 >as his will was made on March 13th of that year. In the will he >mentions "a tract of land on the Chowan River" which he willed to his >son James Jr. >James Copeland Jr. is who I'm trying to find. My ancestor named James >Copeland married an Elizabeth Johnson and moved to Chatham County, NC >where their daughter Elizabeth was born in 1762. But on the Internet >are two conflicting ancestries of James. One has his parents as >Nicholas Copeland and Nancy Lott and the other has James Copeland and >Diana _____. There is no data for Nicholas, but as James who married >Diana left a will, I'm hoping I could find what happened to the land he >willed to his son James Jr. If James Jr. sold it soon after, I'm hoping >his wife's name will be mentioned and maybe this will be some >documentation to settle this confusion. If he lived there past 1762 >then I will know that James Jr. can't be my James, as I know he was in >Chatham County by then. > >So I guess I'm wondering if there is any will or land transfer record >for a James Copeland after 1752 and before 1762 or 63. > > >

I have 1734 for the year of birth for James Copeland and 1809 for his death date. Apparently he died quite a few years after his will was written. Eddie Davis Ec21davis@sbcglobal.net Jean Mattox wrote: >Dunno if this is applicable but I have a couple in NC that appear to be the same as yours - but, what are the dates for them? >I have James, b. in Chowan and d. in Chatham NC >m. to Elizabeth Martha Johnston b.1733 & d. 1823 - in Chatham >The only child I have followed, from them, is John - he's my line - married Judith Rawson. > >This's is not the result of research by me, BTW. Came from Herman And Bill Copeland in Iowa. According to Bill, James had 3 wives. The children numbered at least 14 - maybe 16. Having had 3 wives would make that feasible..... > >Bill Copeland has been collecting info on all Copelands for years but has tapered off. > > >Eddie Davis <ec21davis@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >Nancy, I'll let you know if I ever find anything new on this line. Was >it Elizabeth Johnson or JohnsTon (with a T)? > >Eddie Davis >Ec21davis@sbcglobal.net > > > >Nancy Jones wrote: > > > >>I am hoping someone can answer your question too, >>cousin. I descend from James Jr Copeland and Elizabeth >>Johnston's son Daniel (this is one of my 2 Copeland >>lines). I have seen the online discrepancy and I >>believe some researchers have mixed up two of the >>several Nicholas Copelands. >>Nancy Jones >> >> >>dotsicle >> >> >>==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== >>To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com >> >>To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >> >>To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >> >>AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com >>(In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe >>in the body of the message. >> >>============================== >>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== >To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com > >To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com >(In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe >in the body of the message. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >"If you come to a fork in the road, take it." >Yogi Berra > > > >==== COPELAND Mailing List ==== >To contact the List Admin: mailto:COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com > >To unsubscribe from List Mode: mailto:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >To unsubscribe in Digest Mode: mailto:COPELAND-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >AOL USERS: Send an email to:COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com >(In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe >in the body of the message. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >