Christopher, The John I am looking at was born about 1797 in South Carolina, so I don't think we have a "match." Have you read about the Scots-Irish? I'm theorizing that the Copelands who came to Pennsylvania, the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia and western North and South Carolina (before crossing the mountains into Tennessee and Kentucky) were in one of the four waves of immigrants from Northern Ireland (Ulster) who were originally from the lowlands of Scotland. The two books that I've found interesting are: (1) James Leyburn, "The Scotch-Irish, A Social History, " 1962 (academic) and (2) James Webb, "Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America," 2004 (not so academic). Harlan Copeland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Johnson" <mygenealogist@yahoo.com> To: <COPELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: [COPELAND] John Copeland b.c. 1748 and Margaret Blakely Dear list, I recently began research into the family and ancestry of John Copeland b.c 12 Feb 1748 Chester Co., PA married circa 1774 Margaret Blakely in Laurens Dist, SC. I'm having some difficulty locating John's parents, grandparents, and siblings. I am hoping to connect with other members of this family who might know more about John's origins. I have seen some information which states that the Copelands originated in Ireland before coming to PA and SC, and my ultimate goal is to trace the family back to their origins in Ireland or the UK. Does anyone on the list have additional information on this family? Thanks in advance for any help, Christopher --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I was told i was probably connected to this family line also.. Ive heard the same stories of them coming from Ireland. Do you have a William Copeland born in 1801 in your list? census says in North Carolina but you never know if it was South Caroline. I was told the State lines moved and thats why there are differences in the census'. Makes sense.. Carolyn Copeland-Hennen Christopher Johnson <mygenealogist@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear list, I recently began research into the family and ancestry of John Copeland b.c 12 Feb 1748 Chester Co., PA married circa 1774 Margaret Blakely in Laurens Dist, SC. I'm having some difficulty locating John's parents, grandparents, and siblings. I am hoping to connect with other members of this family who might know more about John’s origins. I have seen some information which states that the Copelands originated in Ireland before coming to PA and SC, and my ultimate goal is to trace the family back to their origins in Ireland or the UK. Does anyone on the list have additional information on this family? Thanks in advance for any help, Christopher --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know.

Dear list, I recently began research into the family and ancestry of John Copeland b.c 12 Feb 1748 Chester Co., PA married circa 1774 Margaret Blakely in Laurens Dist, SC. I'm having some difficulty locating John's parents, grandparents, and siblings. I am hoping to connect with other members of this family who might know more about John’s origins. I have seen some information which states that the Copelands originated in Ireland before coming to PA and SC, and my ultimate goal is to trace the family back to their origins in Ireland or the UK. Does anyone on the list have additional information on this family? Thanks in advance for any help, Christopher --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

hi sue.. i was told he was born in n.c. in 1801 and his wife mary in tenn. or ga. from census records. ill fwd. you what i have and see if we can figure it out.. thanks.. pardon my typos and awful typing.. just got my nails done and she made them too long and my keyboard needs to be replaced. :)) Carolyn census info and etc: It took some digging but I finally found Henry C Copeland's family in TX in 1860 and in AR in 1850. I also found his and his brother's service in the CSA, too. 1860 Hopkins co TX, Bright Star, pg 190 note: Bright Star is now known or also known as Sulphur Springs *gh Mary Copeland 44 SC George 24 AR Henry 20 AR Columbus 18 AR Adaline 16 AR James 12 AR Annie 10 AR Eldridge 7 TX Annie 2 TX After I found this one I started digging in AR in 1850...that takes a little more doing because the 1850 census is not indexed on Heritage Quest, so I went to each county where I found an index for 1850 in census-online. I looked through all of them...and the very last county that had any Copelands listed was where I found them. They were listed alphabetically and I found them in Scott Co AR. :) 1850 Scott co AR Boone Twp, pg 140b William Copeland 49 NC Mary 37 TN George W 14 AR Henry C 9 AR Christopher C 6 AR [Columbus in 1860 census] Adaline 4 AR James M 3 AR Ann 4/12 This site http://gen.1starnet.com/civilwar/9thinf.htm is where I found Columbus C Copeland age 20 b abt 1841 pvt., Co F enlisted 12 Oct 1861 at Bright Star Henry C. Copeland age 21 b abt 1840 pvt., Co G enlisted 8 Oct 1861 Tarrant I found George W. Copeland in the 4th Regiment, TX Cavalry (4th Mounted Volunteers) at http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm After finding all this I got to wondering "why would Henry go to AL when he couldn't find is family after returning from the war?" So I looked up the 9th infantry and found this: 9th Regiment, Texas Infantry (Maxey's) (Young's) 9th (Maxey's) Infantry Regiment [also called 8th Regiment] was organized during September, 1861. The men were recruited in Galveston and Paris, and Titus, Llano, Collin, and Lamar counties. It moved east of the Mississippi River and saw action at Shiloh and Perryville. Later it was assigned to General P. Smith's and Extor's Brigade. It fought at Murfreesboro, served in Mississippi, then participated in the campaigns of the Army of Tennessee from Chickamauga to Nashville. Ordered to Alabama, it ended the war at Mobile. This regiment lost thirty percent of the 226 engaged at Shiloh and thirty-eight percent of the 323 at Murfreesboro. Few surrendered in May, 1865. Its commanders were Colonels Samuel B. Maxey, Wright A. Stanley, and William H. Young; Lieutenant Colonels William E. Beeson and Miles A. Dillard; and Majors James Burnet, W.M. Harrison, and James H. McReynolds. http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm Since he had finished his service in AL, maybe he liked it there and/or had met the Eubanks family and decided to return. I don't see anything that indicates that his family had ever been there before. It will take some more digging to determine what happened to his family. There is a James B Copeland in 1870 Hunt co TX that is abt the right age to be his brother. Hunt is a neighboring county to Hopkins. Soopy46@aol.com wrote: Hi Carolyn Ok where do you live? Do you know when/ where Wiilliam died? Have you gotten a death cert? Looked for cemetery?If in US was he naturalized? These are all records that can give a clue. If US census sometimes has clues too. First tell me where you belive he lived....and dates and I'll see if I can help you. Sue in NY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

Hi Carolyn Ok where do you live? Do you know when/ where Wiilliam died? Have you gotten a death cert? Looked for cemetery?If in US was he naturalized? These are all records that can give a clue. If US census sometimes has clues too. First tell me where you belive he lived....and dates and I'll see if I can help you. Sue in NY

My Brick Wall; William Copeland married Hannah McBee in 1835 in Hardeman Co., TN; I cannot find anything about them after the marriage- would love to find their descendants; Did they go to the Van Zandt/Kaufman Co. TX area with Hannah's brother William H McBee or to AR with her 2 sisters families-- William & Catherine Taggart/Tackett and Masie & Green B Stokes or did they go somewherer else---stayed in TN- ??? I cannot find them anywhere that I can be sure of. All help appreciated. Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick John & Elnora Cook-Wyrick Families; http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/ Yesterday is a memory, Tomorrow is a dream, Today is a Gift

my copelands went from texas to ark. to alabama also... AncestorsHunter@aol.com wrote: Looking for information on my ancestor Eveline COPELAND born 1835 in either TN or AL. She married John JORDAN in 1851 and was living in St Clair Co AL in 1860 census and they later moved to Arkansas. Any help on her parents would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

hi sue.. i have no idea where in ireland my william came from.. ive heard that we may have some native american in our family also.. the goin miller rolls ( spelling??) have a mary and an adeline on there.. its all so confusing. i have some census info and the stuff i sent out last week but it gets fuzzy from there.. carolyn p.s. if you know of anyone who knows of this copeland line, any help would be great.. :)) Soopy46@aol.com wrote: Hi Carolyn >From your info your William was born in 1801, which would make my "Hugh" 20 years older then him. Chances of them being brothers is possibly but I really do not know. Many families during that time had very large families. Nicholina Armstrong, Hugh's wife came from a family of 18 children. And I believe that James and Anne Copeland (Hugh's parents)also had a large number of children.I have extensive info on both Copeland and Armstrong from Ireland - 1780s to US..present day.My Copelands (and Armstrongs & Montgomerys) were extremely involded in the Methodist religion. Many became Reverends . In Ireland, John Wesley often preached and stayed at their homes. Hugh had sons named William and Henry BUT they both went to Australia in 1856 and died there. Do you have any idea where in Ireland your Copelands came from? Immigration info ?Possible years? I really do not have info on Hugh's brothers....in fact I am only just working on it, and got their names recently. Many times these families used the last names of those who married into the family as "middle" names. A way I have connected to some "cousins". Common names within this family were Armstrong, Montgomery, Henderson, Bracken. If I come across future info I will keep you in mind. Good Luck Sue in NY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

Also, COPELIN, COPLING,COPLEN, COUPLAND, COAPLAND. I guess anyway one can think of, was how they ended up recording it in some records. Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee" <cleewarriner@verizon.net> To: <copeland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [COPELAND] [SHEFF] James COPELAND b1888 Northern England > Some spellings of COPELAND I have seen (in old records) are COPLAN, > COPELAN and COPLAND. I'm sure there are others at times. > > Lee > >> >>In a message dated 26/11/2006 23:31:10 GMT Standard Time, >>bill.copland@ntlworld.com writes: >> >>These are part of my family and the names are all correct, although >>Copeland sometimes appears as Copland and McClymount sometimes >>appears as McClymont or even McClement. > > > Lee (Aka Zos at looking4kin chat) > > Join us at www.looking4kin.com a great Genealogy only chat room > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some spellings of COPELAND I have seen (in old records) are COPLAN, COPELAN and COPLAND. I'm sure there are others at times. Lee > >In a message dated 26/11/2006 23:31:10 GMT Standard Time, >bill.copland@ntlworld.com writes: > >These are part of my family and the names are all correct, although >Copeland sometimes appears as Copland and McClymount sometimes >appears as McClymont or even McClement. Lee (Aka Zos at looking4kin chat) Join us at www.looking4kin.com a great Genealogy only chat room

In a message dated 26/11/2006 23:31:10 GMT Standard Time, bill.copland@ntlworld.com writes: These are part of my family and the names are all correct, although Copeland sometimes appears as Copland and McClymount sometimes appears as McClymont or even McClement. Hi Bill It was just the capitalisation of all the name. Here it is written McCLYMONT which shows the first part as Mc. As it was written MCC it was confusing. Sorry to have created trouble. Regards Judy

I would like to discover some more about my Grand Uncle James COPELAND s/o Joseph COPELAND and Elizabeth MCCLYMOUNT as he is one of this family whom I know very little about, though I do have some very early family photographs. >From what I have gathered, he lived in "northern" England I know that he was born in 1888 in Woodham Ferrers, Essex. On 5 Apr 1891, James was living with his mother and his siblings Harry, Elizabeth, Martha, and Mary at Gilborne Row in Chapel-en-le-Frith, DBY, ENG. On 31 Mar 1901, James was living with his parents and siblings Harry, Elizabeth and Joseph plus 9 Boarders at Hisehope in Muggleswick, YKS, ENG. Later he married Annie(--?--) He worked as a crane driver. TIA Jim Jim & Beverley Payne NEW ZEALAND jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz Our web site is located at the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz

Hi Judy These are part of my family and the names are all correct, although Copeland sometimes appears as Copland and McClymount sometimes appears as McClymont or even McClement. What's the problem? Cheers Bill On 26 Nov 2006, at 17:17, JJupar@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 26/11/2006 16:31:05 GMT Standard Time, > jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz writes: > > Joseph COPELAND and Elizabeth MCCLYMOUNT > > > Hi > > Could you tell us what name this is supposed to be as I don't think > this can > be correct. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [W.R.Yorkshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COPELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find out some more about my Grand Uncle Harry COPELAND and his family in the Liverpool area where they appear to have lost contact with the family. Harry either came with or followed his brother in law James PAYNE, my Grandfather, who came to Birkenhead with his family to work on the construction of the docks. While in Liverpool, Harry married Maggie O'HAGAN but I can't locate the marriage. Looking at the various records, I have come across some Margaret HAGANs born in the area and of suitable ages so I wonder if family memories were exactly correct. I know that: Harry s/o Joseph COPELAND AND Elizabeth MCCLYMOUNT was born in the March Qtr 1890 in Lambeth, London, ENG. On 5 Apr 1891, Harry Copeland was living with his mother Elizabeth McClymont and siblings James, Joseph, Elizabeth, Martha, and Mary at Gilborne Row in Chapel-en-le-Frith, DBY, ENG. On 31 Mar 1901, Harry was living with his parents and siblings James, Elizabeth, and Joseph plus various boarders, at Hisehope in Muggleswick, YKS, ENG. He married Maggie O'Hagan who was born in Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. He died at Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. Their known children John. Harry, James, Jack, Margaret, Annie and Mary were all born at Birkenhead, CHS, ENG, and many died there too TIA Jim Jim & Beverley Payne NEW ZEALAND jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz Our web site is located at the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz

In a message dated 26/11/2006 16:31:05 GMT Standard Time, jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz writes: Joseph COPELAND and Elizabeth MCCLYMOUNT Hi Could you tell us what name this is supposed to be as I don't think this can be correct. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi again Jim Sorry, meant to give you this household in the 1891 Census too :- RG12/2881 folio 21 page 35 4 Florence street, Birkenhead John HAGAN, 34, dock labourer, LAN Liverpool Catherine, wife, 27, LAN Liverpool Mary E, daur, 6, CHS Birkenhead Joseph, son, CHS Birkenhead Margaret, daur, 8 months, CHS Birkenhead Regards Gordon --- Original Message ----- From: "JimBev" <jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz> To: "COPELAND ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com>; "Wirrall Rootsweb" <ENG-CHS-WIRRAL-L@rootsweb.com>; "BIRKENHEAD ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com>; "CHESHIRE ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; "ENG-MERSEYSIDE ROOTSWEB MAILING" <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com>; "LANCSGEN ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com>; "LIVERPOOL ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <ENG-LIVERPOOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] COPELAND Liverpool, ENG area 1906> >I am trying to find out some more about my Grand Uncle Harry COPELAND and > his family in the Liverpool area where they appear to have lost contact > with > the family. Harry either came with or followed his brother in law James > PAYNE, my Grandfather, who came to Birkenhead with his family to work on > the > construction of the docks. While in Liverpool, Harry married Maggie > O'HAGAN > but I can't locate the marriage. Looking at the various records, I have > come across some Margaret HAGANs born in the area and of suitable ages so > I > wonder if family memories were exactly correct. I know that: > > Harry s/o Joseph COPELAND AND Elizabeth MCCLYMOUNT was born in the March > Qtr > 1890 in Lambeth, London, ENG. On 5 Apr 1891, Harry Copeland was living > with > his mother Elizabeth McClymont and siblings James, Joseph, Elizabeth, > Martha, and Mary at Gilborne Row in Chapel-en-le-Frith, DBY, ENG. On 31 > Mar > 1901, Harry was living with his parents and siblings James, Elizabeth, and > Joseph plus various boarders, at Hisehope in Muggleswick, YKS, ENG. He > married Maggie O'Hagan who was born in Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. He died at > Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. Their known children John. Harry, James, Jack, > Margaret, Annie and Mary were all born at Birkenhead, CHS, ENG, and many > died there too > > TIA > > Jim > > Jim & Beverley Payne > NEW ZEALAND > jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz > Our web site is located at the following URL: > http://www.shampayne.org.nz > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jim On Ancestry BMD (free) :- Marriage MarchQ 1920 Birkenhead 8a/1160 Henry COPELAND and Margaret HAGAN On Cheshire BMD :- Birth 1890 Birkenhead Margaret HAGAN Ref - BIR/162/76 In 1891 Census :- RG12/2881 folio 25 page 43 12 Parkfield Avenue, Birkenhead William HAGAN, 29, dock labourer, CHS Birkenhead Matilda, wife, 29, CHS Birkenhead Margaret, daur, 8, CHS Birkenhead John, son, 4, CHS Birkenhead Rose A, daur, 1, CHD Birkenhead In 1901 Census :- RG13/3389 folio 64 page 15 5 Park Street, Birkenhead William H MALONE, 32, dock labourer, CHS Birkenhead Mary E, 35, CHS Birkenhead Michael, son, 12, CHS Birkenhead Mary E, daur, 8, CHS Birkenhead William, son, 4, CHS Birkenhead Annie, daur, 4 months, CHS Birkenhead Peter, father, W, 62, retired furniture remover, CHS Birkenhead Jospeh O'HAGAN, nephew, 15, dock labourer, CHS Birkenhead Margaret, niece, 10, CHS Birkenhead John McCORMICK, boarder, M, 46, dock labourer, CHS Birkenhead Hope this helps Gordon Evans Wirral UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "JimBev" <jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz> To: "COPELAND ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com>; "Wirrall Rootsweb" <ENG-CHS-WIRRAL-L@rootsweb.com>; "BIRKENHEAD ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com>; "CHESHIRE ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; "ENG-MERSEYSIDE ROOTSWEB MAILING" <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com>; "LANCSGEN ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com>; "LIVERPOOL ROOTSWEB-MAIL" <ENG-LIVERPOOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] COPELAND Liverpool, ENG area 1906> >I am trying to find out some more about my Grand Uncle Harry COPELAND and > his family in the Liverpool area where they appear to have lost contact > with > the family. Harry either came with or followed his brother in law James > PAYNE, my Grandfather, who came to Birkenhead with his family to work on > the > construction of the docks. While in Liverpool, Harry married Maggie > O'HAGAN > but I can't locate the marriage. Looking at the various records, I have > come across some Margaret HAGANs born in the area and of suitable ages so > I > wonder if family memories were exactly correct. I know that: > > Harry s/o Joseph COPELAND AND Elizabeth MCCLYMOUNT was born in the March > Qtr > 1890 in Lambeth, London, ENG. On 5 Apr 1891, Harry Copeland was living > with > his mother Elizabeth McClymont and siblings James, Joseph, Elizabeth, > Martha, and Mary at Gilborne Row in Chapel-en-le-Frith, DBY, ENG. On 31 > Mar > 1901, Harry was living with his parents and siblings James, Elizabeth, and > Joseph plus various boarders, at Hisehope in Muggleswick, YKS, ENG. He > married Maggie O'Hagan who was born in Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. He died at > Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. Their known children John. Harry, James, Jack, > Margaret, Annie and Mary were all born at Birkenhead, CHS, ENG, and many > died there too > > TIA > > Jim > > Jim & Beverley Payne > NEW ZEALAND > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My database shows a Eveline Copeland b 1841 TN. She was the daughter of Stephen Harrison Copeland b 1811 and Elisabeth Carr b 1821. I have no other info on this person. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AncestorsHunter@aol.com> To: <copeland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: [COPELAND] Eveline Copeland born 1835 TN/AL - Need help > Looking for information on my ancestor Eveline COPELAND born 1835 in > either > TN or AL. She married John JORDAN in 1851 and was living in St Clair Co AL > in > 1860 census and they later moved to Arkansas. Any help on her parents > would > be greatly appreciated. Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COPELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for information on my ancestor Eveline COPELAND born 1835 in either TN or AL. She married John JORDAN in 1851 and was living in St Clair Co AL in 1860 census and they later moved to Arkansas. Any help on her parents would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

My husbands Copeland family also has James, William, and Hugh. Lillian Copeland