Thanks for the response, Danny. No, I do not know Jeremiah's ancestry...that's what I'm looking for! Except for the Bible record, info on Jeremiah has come to me in "hints and clues" as you can see if you bring up my query posted Jun 7 at <http://genforum.genealogy.com/cooper/messages/5208.html>. Another "hint" I came onto sometime ago (and have misplaced!) was that of a Jeremiah of that timeframe (plus a cohort) was commissioned to do an extensive E-W survey across the top of VA, but backed out of the deal...that job then being taken over by 2 gents named Mason & Dixon...go figger! The old query I have cited in the aforementioned URL (possibly connecting Jeremiah's 'possible' father Joseph to Wm Franklin) is of particular interest since I have a handed-down family record showing a dau (Sarah Ann) of Wm Temple Franklin (illegit son of Wm) to have married Jeremiah's son Joseph. Re. the Jonathan/ Sarah lineage you provided, I have a Descendancy Chart from the LDS Ancestry File (c) 1987 showing Jonothon/Sarah's descendants, but have not been able to connect to that line, ie. their oldest son Jeremiah (b. 1716) could have endured 'til 1801, but would have been stretching it a bit to have fathered Joseph in 1777, tho' his son Jeremiah (b. 1746) certainly could have. However, I've not been able to positively ID that Jeremiah (who ma. Rebecca Perrill), and whose ancestry is the object of my search. There's a lot of Cooper lineage out there in cyberspace but even when connected to, has a problem of validity. They sure didn't take we researchers into consideration when naming their issue. I hope to speak to some of them someday about that very thing!/Jim Scruggs, Cocoa Bch, FL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [COOPER-L] Jeremiah Cooper-Winchester, VA > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:49:11 EDT > From: Dbyrd000@aol.com > To: COOPER-L@rootsweb.com > > Jim, > Do you know who the parents or ancestor's of this Jeremiah Cooper, died > 1801 Winchester VA were. If you do not, let me propose the following > possibility. > > I have three son's of Jonathan Cooper 1675-1769 and Sarah Hibbs > 1692-1769 that I have not recorded the children for as yet. These Cooper's > and their children were Quakers and Millers. One of their son's, whom I have > an extensive downline for moved to Laurens, Union County SC around 1760 1771 > timeframe. This line of Cooper's starting in England, from the research I > have so far, had the following numbers of children that match the names of > your Jeremiah's children. Sarah 8, Joesph 9, Jacob 6, Levi 1, Jonathan 5, > Elizabeth 5, Jeremiah 4, Rebecca 2, Mary 8, Atalina 0, Israel 1. Jonathan and > Sarah Hibbs as well as Jonathan's family that came from England lived in NJ > and Byberry, Bucks County PA before speading out over the US. Hinshaw's > Encyclopedia of Quaker minutes possibly could connect these families. I'll > look at this when I get a chance if you think it is feasible. Takes me a > while to research though as I do not get as much time as I would wish. The > names of the three boy's are Jeremiah b 1715 married Rebecca Wildman, > Jonathan b 1721 married Sarah Stockdale and Jacob b 1728 married ?????. > Danny Cooper > Byrd > > > >