Hi Perils - so glad to hear from another Cooper researcher in the same area as I am researching. The following are what I have on the Coopers and Cowles: Descendants of Russell Cowles 1 Russell COWLES b: in Conneticut .. +Wilhelmina PEPPER b: in Holland m: in Pultneyville, Ontario, NY; d. Aft. 1835 . 2 Sophia Lucinda COWLES b: 1819 in Pultneyville, Wayne Co., New York d: November 27, 1893 in Baker Co., Oregon ..... +Nathaniel P. COOPER b: Abt 1806 in New York m: 1835 in Pultneyville, Wayne Co., New York d: April 1870 in Ft. Collins, Larimer Co., CO . 2 Henry Russell COWLES b: April 13, 1823 in Pultneyville, Wayne, NY d: April 14, 1892 in Washington, Washington, IA ..... +Elizabeth MCCAFFERTY b: January 05, 1826 in Cedar Grove, Franklin Co., Ind. m: December 18, 1846 in Cedar Grove, Franklin Co., Ind. . 2 Sylvester COWLES b: Abt 1824 in NY . 2 Theodore COWLES b: Abt 1825 in NY . 2 Lorenzo COWLES b: Abt 1825 in NY d: 1867 ..... +[1] Clarissa CAFFERTY b: June 20, 1824 in Cedar Grove, Franklin Co., Ind. m: October 20, 1844 d: March 01, 1876 in Cambridge City, Wayne Co., Ind. . 2 Nelson COWLES b: Abt 1826 in NY ..... +[1] Clarissa CAFFERTY b: June 20, 1824 in Cedar Grove, Franklin Co., Ind. m: 1870 d: March 01, 1876 in Cambridge City, Wayne Co., Ind. Descendants of Nathaniel P. Cooper and Sophia Lucinda Cowles 1 Sophia Lucinda COWLES b: 1819 in Pultneyville, Wayne Co., New York d: November 27, 1893 in Baker Co., Oregon .. +Nathaniel P. COOPER b: Abt 1806 in New York m: 1835 in Pultneyville, Wayne Co., New York d: April 1870 in Ft. Collins, Larimer Co., CO . 2 Hulburt DeWitt COOPER b: Abt 1836 in Pennsylvania d: Abt 1907 in Portland, Multnomah Co., Oregon ..... +Melissa E SCOTT b: December 25, 1846 in Indiana m: June 20, 1868 in Diamond City, Meagher, Terr. Montana d: Abt 1879 in Eden Precinct, (Talent), Jackson Co., Oregon . 2 James Fitz James COOPER b: Abt 1839 in Kentucky d: Abt 1898 in Baker Co., Oregon . 2 Florence Elizabeth COOPER b: July 29, 1845 in Iowa or KY d: Abt November 30, 1869 ..... +Joshua AMES m: Bef. 1869 in Ft Collins, Larimer Co., CO . 2 Geneva Jane COOPER b: February 02, 1849 in Iowa ..... +William D. HAYES m: in Ft. Collins, Larimer Co., CO . 2 Helen Mary COOPER b: Abt 1852 in Washington, Washington Co., Iowa ..... +Andrew J. AMES m: Abt November 30, 1870 in Ft Collins, Larimer Co., CO . 2 Theodore Henry (Harry) COOPER b: October 1857 in Washington, Washington Co., Iowa d: April 28, 1904 in Union, Union Co., Oregon ..... +Alice (CARROLL) BENSON b: August 1855 in Iowa m: Abt 1887 d: Aft. 1904 . 2 Edmonia Lincoln COOPER b: December 14, 1859 in Richmond, Washington Co, Iowa d: July 17, 1910 in Myrtle Creek, Douglas, Oregon ..... +Daniel S. RYAN b: December 21, 1844 in Oswego, Oswego, New York m: July 30, 1888 in Huntington, Baker, Oregon d: May 21, 1896 in Baker City, Baker Co., Oregon . *2nd Husband of Edmonia Lincoln COOPER: ..... +Joseph Wesley HICKS b: 1855 in Richmond, Washington Co., Iowa m: Bef. 1900 in Baker City, Baker Co., Oregon d: Bef. 1910 I am trying to find a marriage record for N.P. and Sophia in Pultneyville. Think I will have to send a letter to their historical society or someplace to find it. I have no information on Nathaniel's parentage nor do I have any idea who he might have been travelling with. I should check the census records for the names of the families you mentioned to see if any of them are nearby. I don't know where in PA my gr grandfather, Hulbert DeWitt (he went by DeWitt H.) was born but apparently their second child, James FitzJames was b in Frankfort, KY. The parents of Wilhelmenia Pepper are buried near Pultneyville - the mother was also Wilhelmenia and I am wondering if he maiden name might have been DeWitt as she was from Holland. Have forgotten the father's name and don't seem to have either in my database for some reason. I know there were also Pardees in the area which a now deceased cousin of my Dad's said was Nathaniel's middle name so that may be a clue to his parents if I could find a marriage record for them - ah! but where? Death records in that time frame? Land and wills or probates - I still have a great deal of work to do yet and it is slow and difficult to do it from far away Oregon. I just ordered the 37 marker DNA test to be done on my brother's 12 marker DNA he submitted for me to FamilyTree Dna. Hopefully that will be helpful. Please keep in touch and I will check the census records I can retreive through the Godfrey Library site and will let you know what I might find. Carroll (Cooper) Summers Hi Carroll, would you believe Pultneyville is the area my ancestors went to abt 1808!!!! I do not know about Nathaniel, but the Coopers in Williamson or Pultneyville came from NJ, Vermont and NY. Located on the migration path westward, it was a stopping off point for many travelers. I do not know the all the childrens names of my Coopers, but the Cowles and Peppers were right there too. Do you have other names that traveled with your Nathaniel?? There was a Sarah Cooper that married a Cowles, I think, from another posting a couple of years ago, and I will see if I can find it. Do you have any Conk or Couch, Cottrell, Lewis, Grandin, Johnson, Waite, Culver, Stewart ?? At last, someone in my research area.....Perils in NY -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COOPER] Coopers of NJ, New England, NY, early Hi Perils, In your Cooper research of upstate NY have you ever run across a Nathaniel P (Parda/Pardee???) Cooper. He was probably b abt 1806 "in NY" according to census records. He was married in 1835, Pultneyville, Wayne, NY to Sophia Lucinda Cowles, dau of Russell Cowles, b CT and Wilhelmina Pepper, b Holland. Nathaniel is my brick wall. My brother has donated his DNA to the Cooper DNA project and we will soon be upgrading the 12 marker test to 36. Hoping that will help break down the wall. Just thought I would ask you since you are doing so much research in that area. Thanks Carroll (Cooper) Summers Oregon Hi list, as we speak, I am doing intensive research on the early Coopers of New Jersey. My search has been focused on the Coopers of Eastern NJ, as I am looking for the origin of a Thos Cooper, wf Mary, who migrated to upstate NY circa 1800 or so. There are at least 4 lines of Coopers represented there before 1800, including an Ezekiel from the James of Coopers Point, circa 1750 or so. I am currently exploring the lines of New England Coopers, looking for the origins of the ones who migrated to NJ as land became available. My other New England lines are Balch, Gardner, Bowne,Veren, Conant, Dodge, picked up the Tetor or Dietz in Morris County, NJ, and Cottrell in Monmouth County. The name Conk , Lewis and Grandin appear in NJ for me, and hopefully they will somehow shed some positive light on my elusive Cooper. Nathan, descendent of John and Wilbroe was in Morris County too, if I remember correctly, with out checking my notes. Please post your correspondence so we can all perhaps benefit from it........hey, you never know!!! Perils of Pauline in NY ==== COOPER Mailing List ==== Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet http://www.snopes.com/ Snopes.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930