Hi Bob...Have the DNA test done and see if you match one of the many , many Cooper's who have already submitted their DNA. It would be a starting point if you match one of them.... Later...Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB COOPER MARSHALL" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:17 AM Subject: [COOPER] Re: COOPER-D Digest V04 #96 > > --WebTV-Mail-6490-306 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Just wondering and wandering for about 20 years now. Trying to find > my Cooper roots before 1850 in Lee County, VA. In > that census, Elizabeth Cooper 40 was listed as head of household with > children as George 20, Martha 17, Catherine ( my grgrandmother ) 15, > Mary 12. > In the 1860 census in that county, Elizabeth Cooper is not listed. > George has > married an Elizabeth Gilbert. The daughters are living with Morris > relatives > or benevolent neighbors. We believe Elizabeth Morris Cooper died around > 1854 > in Lee County of a severe fever but have > found no record. > Subsequent records show a listing by > all the children of Elizabeth Cooper as > mother. No father is listed. All list VA as > place of birth. Our Cooper relatives are traceable beginning with this > 1850 census. The Morris and Garrisons are > traceable thru the great halls of Europe. > Our branch of the Morris family is noted by the birth of Elizabeth in > 1808 ( ? ) into > the family of Elias Morris, sr. in Montgomery County, NC. Elizabeth > would > have been around age 30 when married . > The trek of the Elias Morris, sr. family > ( which seems to have been closely knit ) > thru the mountains of NC , TN , VA has not been clearly mapped . We > believe Carter County, TN was a stop > on the route . > Question to those of you in this exchange of info is have you seen > any > evidence of a marriage between Elizabeth Morris and a Cooper ? > Similarity in origin > led me to this question ? Perhaps a George ??? > > NOW ! WHO WAS THAT COOPER FELLOW WHO > MARRIED GRGRGRANDMOTHER ELIZABETH MORRIS AND MADE ME A COOPER ? > > > --WebTV-Mail-6490-306 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from smtpin-3201.bay.webtv.net (209.240.204.226) by > storefull-3158.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 > 22:41:24 -0700 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by > smtpin-3201.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id > 26940FE58; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:41:24 -0700 (PDT) > Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id > i5O30AI5011117; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:00:10 -0600 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:00:10 -0600 > Message-Id: <[email protected]> > From: [email protected] > Subject: COOPER-D Digest V04 #96 > X-Loop: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/volume04/96 > Precedence: list > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" > To: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive > > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > COOPER-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 96 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers [[email protected]] > #2 Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers ["joed99" <[email protected]>] > #3 Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers [[email protected]] > #4 Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri ["gloria" <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from COOPER-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:36:49 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Joe > > Am searching for my no first name WILSON g grandparents. Do you have any > more info about Elmira? > > Jeannie :) > > In a message dated 5/30/2004 7:23:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > I am looking for the family of George Cooper born abt 1829 in NJ married to > Elmira Wilson born abt 1831 and married abt 1850. I believe they are the > parents of the following > > Frederick b abt 1852 > Mary b abt 1853 > Susan b abt 1857 > George b abt 1859 > Elmira b Abt 1862 > Margaret b abt 1862 > Ida Josephine b 6/1853 my great grandmother > > JoeD > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > X-Message: #2 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:17:38 -0400 > From: "joed99" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello Jeannie, > > The only additional info I have on Elmira is I believe she died before 1870. > She does not appear on the 1870 census with her husband George Cooper. > Do you have ties to this Elmira ? > > JoeD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers > > > > Hi Joe > > > > Am searching for my no first name WILSON g grandparents. Do you have any > > more info about Elmira? > > > > Jeannie :) > > > > In a message dated 5/30/2004 7:23:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > I am looking for the family of George Cooper born abt 1829 in NJ married > to > > Elmira Wilson born abt 1831 and married abt 1850. I believe they are the > > parents of the following > > > > Frederick b abt 1852 > > Mary b abt 1853 > > Susan b abt 1857 > > George b abt 1859 > > Elmira b Abt 1862 > > Margaret b abt 1862 > > Ida Josephine b 6/1853 my great grandmother > > > > JoeD > > > > > > ==== COOPER Mailing List ==== > > USGS Mapping Information query form > > http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > X-Message: #3 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:15:51 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hello Joe > > Thank you for answering. The date you have could be right, but I only wish I > knew the answer to your question about Elmira ties. I have no first names > for my g grandparents which makes it extremely difficult to search for them. At > best she might be a relation to my g grandmother who was the mother of my > grandfather John William WILSON. > > I have much hope concerning finding the first names of my paternal g > grandparents since only recently after many years of intense searching I suddenly > found the first names of my maternal LINDSAY g grandparents. So, I have > re-affimed my belief that all things are possible. > > Jeannie :) > In a message dated 6/23/2004 9:18:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > Hello Jeannie, > > The only additional info I have on Elmira is I believe she died before 1870. > She does not appear on the 1870 census with her husband George Cooper. > Do you have ties to this Elmira ? > > JoeD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: [COOPER] NJ Coopers > > > > Hi Joe > > > > Am searching for my no first name WILSON g grandparents. Do you have any > > more info about Elmira? > > > > Jeannie :) > > > > In a message dated 5/30/2004 7:23:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > I am looking for the family of George Cooper born abt 1829 in NJ married > to > > Elmira Wilson born abt 1831 and married abt 1850. I believe they are the > > parents of the following > > > > Frederick b abt 1852 > > Mary b abt 1853 > > Susan b abt 1857 > > George b abt 1859 > > Elmira b Abt 1862 > > Margaret b abt 1862 > > Ida Josephine b 6/1853 my great grandmother > > > > JoeD > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > X-Message: #4 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:22:06 -0000 > From: "gloria" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi > My COOPERs have been in Weakley and Carroll Co. Tn. in the 1820's and are > still there today. I live in Paris Tn. a little over 30 miles from were I > grow up. My mother and granparents were born in Christmasville, Tn. > My grandfather was born and raised his family and died with in afew hunder > feet of were he died. Gloria Cooper > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Curt Cooper" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:03 AM > Subject: Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri > > > > Gloria, > > > > My Cooper family was in Weakley Co, TN in 1830, Obion Co, TN in 1840, & > > Greene Co, AR in 1850. > > His name was James Cooper (b. ~1787 NC) married Catherine (NMN, b. ~1808 > TN) > > and had Sarah Jane, > > James, Martha, John, Letha, Mary Frances, & Peter Caswell. Henry Cooper > > who was about James Cooper's > > age was also in Weakley Co, TN in 1830, 1840, & 1850. When were your > > Cooper's in Weakley Co, TN? > > > > Curt Cooper > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "gloria" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 3:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri > > > > > > > Hi > > > My COOPERs came form Montgomery Co. N.C. and Carroll and Weakley Co Tn. > > > Joseph Cooper Sr 1750-1760. Mark Cooper and Joseph Jr. there was one > > > other son we are not sure of his name. But belive it may be John as > there > > is > > > a John who got married in Montgomery Co. at the time Joseph. Gloria > Cooper > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "J.Cooper Walker" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gloria...My Coopers came from Currituck and Halifax Counties N.C. > and > > > > moved in to Bedford, Rutherford, Williamson, Gibson and Wayne Counties > > in > > > > Tn. From there some went into Ky about 1830, and others came to Ark. > > > about > > > > 1845. By 1845 they were out of N.C. and Tn. Will exchange anyone if > you > > > > think we have a match. John, John Jr. , Samuel, Isles,George, William > > > > Monroe, Peyton , Allen, Wells, Zacheus are some of the names... > > > > > > > > Later...Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "gloria" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:56 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > My COOPERs also come from Tn and N.C. .What part of Tn. and > N.C. > > > did > > > > > they come from. One of my ggggrandfather brothers went to Missour. > > > Gloria > > > > > Cooper > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "J.Cooper Walker" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:38 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [COOPER] Cooper in Missouri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Barbara...I have some Coopers in Ky in the early 1800's. > > > > > > I dont have a Christopher, that I know of, The Cooper family I > have > > > came > > > > > to > > > > > > Christian County Ky about 1830. Wells Cooper and Elizabeth Hogan > had > > > > > several > > > > > > children by the 1840's. Wells died about 1836, Elizabeth was > still > > > > living > > > > > > in the 1870 census. They were from Tn and N.C. Out Coopers have > had > > > six > > > > > > DNA test , this connects three different Cooper families. > > > > > > > > > > > > If your Cooper has the test, and there is a match, this would > left > > > you > > > > > know > > > > > > if you connect to Our Line... > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you... > > > > > > > > > > > > Later...Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== COOPER Mailing List ==== > > > > List Mom for COOPER-L: > > > > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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