Would anyone have any info on this for my cousin: thanks, pat ******************* Subject:    emmrs message Hello listers,           Here I am again. I posted this before and didn't get any answers to it, so, please someone point me in the right direction. ************* I am seeking information on my ggrandmother, Lucinda Nicholas who was born in Alabama in 1820 and died in Handsboro, Mississippi on Dec. 26, 1902. She was the daughter of JACOB NICHOLAS (Nie-col-us), son of JOHN COOPER, who was a Choctaw Indian Chief who signed the Great Indian Dance Treaty, supposedly at Shubuta, MS. She married my ggrandfather, Charles Woodbury Creel in 1837. Charles Woodbury Creel's brother, Wesley Creel, married Jerusha Nicholas, Lucinda Nicholas' sister. Their father was Jacob Nicholas who was born in Tennessee, I am quoting from an out-of-print book "Anywhere I Wander I Find Facts and Legends about the Creel Families". she was the daughter of JACOB NICHOLAS, son of JOHN COOPER, a Choctaw Indian Chief who signed the Great Indian Dance Treaty, supposedly at Shubuta, MS. LUCINDA NICHOLAS was a midwife." My questions are: If LUCINDA NICHOLAS is the daughter of JACOB NICHOLAS, who was the son of JOHN COOPER, why was his name JACOB NICHOLAS and not JACOB COOPER? Is this a matriarchal way among Native Americans that they carry the mother's name instead of the father's name. Also, does this mean that JACOB NICHOLAS was the Indian Chief and if so, how do I find out his Indian name? I have searched US-Indian Treaties and the closest I can come to what is in the book "Great Indian Dance Treaty" is the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek and found it on-line. Searched the signatures on it and there is no JOHN COOPER nor JACOB NICHOLAS, unless JACOB NICHOLAS was the chief and had an Indian name. The only thing I have found on JOHN COOPER is that he worked among the Choctaws in Mississippi. I have searched on the Internet and in libraries and encyclopedias and that is all I have found. Can someone please help me? Thanks.

Have you tried this site re indian records???? http://www.intl-research.com/dawes-rolls.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <topcatpat@webtv.net> To: <COOPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [COOPER-L] re:COOPERs----anywhere > Would anyone have any info on this for my cousin: > thanks, > pat > ******************* > Subject: emmrs message > Hello listers, > Here I am again. I posted this before and > didn't get any answers to it, so, please someone point me in the right > direction. > ************* > I am seeking information on my ggrandmother, Lucinda Nicholas who was > born in Alabama in 1820 and died in Handsboro, Mississippi on Dec. 26, > 1902. > She was the daughter of JACOB NICHOLAS (Nie-col-us), son of JOHN COOPER, > who was a Choctaw Indian Chief who signed the Great Indian Dance Treaty, > supposedly at Shubuta, MS. She married my ggrandfather, Charles > Woodbury Creel in 1837. Charles Woodbury Creel's brother, Wesley Creel, > married Jerusha Nicholas, Lucinda Nicholas' sister. Their father was > Jacob Nicholas who was born in Tennessee, I am quoting from an > out-of-print book "Anywhere I Wander I Find Facts and Legends about the > Creel Families". > she was the daughter of JACOB NICHOLAS, son of JOHN COOPER, a Choctaw > Indian Chief who signed the Great Indian Dance Treaty, supposedly at > Shubuta, MS. > LUCINDA NICHOLAS was a midwife." My questions are: If LUCINDA NICHOLAS > is the daughter of JACOB NICHOLAS, who was the son of JOHN COOPER, why > was his name JACOB NICHOLAS and not JACOB COOPER? Is this a matriarchal > way among Native Americans that they carry the mother's name instead of > the father's name. Also, does this mean that JACOB NICHOLAS was the > Indian Chief and if so, how do I find out his Indian name? > I have searched US-Indian Treaties and the closest I can come to what is > in the book "Great Indian Dance Treaty" is the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit > Creek and found it on-line. Searched the signatures on it and there is > no JOHN COOPER nor JACOB NICHOLAS, unless JACOB NICHOLAS was the chief > and had an Indian name. The only thing I have found on JOHN COOPER is > that he worked among the Choctaws in Mississippi. I have searched on the > Internet and in libraries and encyclopedias and that is all I have > found. > Can someone please help me? > Thanks. > > > ==== COOPER Mailing List ==== > This list is brought to you by the RootsWeb Members and Sponsors. > RootsWeb Gen.Data Coop.Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >