My Coopers were in Coles County, Charleston. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Fuller" <reflaf@earthlink.net> To: <cooper@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [COOPER] Illinois > > > >>I have Cooper's in Fulton Co., IL and later in mcDonough Co., IL. > > Details available if you have Cooper's in these counties. > > Bob >> > From: "Joan Coleman" >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:40 AM >> > Subject: Re: [COOPER] COOPER Family Photograph >> > >> > >> >> Anybody out there with Illinois Coopers??? Joann >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Edward Sinker" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 5:02 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [COOPER] COOPER Family Photograph >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Carroll, >> >>> >> >>> Thank you for your reply, pointing out how you know that Sophia >> >>> COWLES >> >>> husband is Nathaniel P. COOPER, plus the additional useful and >> >>> interesting >> >>> information about your family. >> >>> >> >>> I do think that there is a fair chance that Nathaniel might belong to >> >>> the >> >>> Salem/Camden County, NJ, COOPERS, even if he was born in New York >> >>> State. >> >>> >> >>> I did notice a couple of your 'deliberate' :-) mistakes, just to see > if >> >>> I >> >>> read >> >>> it carefully, such as your father, Maurice DeWitt COOPER being born >> >>> in >> >>> 1804 rather than 1904. >> >>> >> >>> Getting back to Pultneyville, Wayne Co., New York, I sometimes get a >> >>> little confused about Williamson the village and Williamson the >> >>> township. >> >>> Pultneyville & Williamson are both in the Town of Williamson, so when > I >> >>> see that my COOPERS, Griffith & Alexander are mentioned as being in >> >>> Williamson, it could and does at times mean that they are actually in >> >>> the >> >>> village of Pultneyville rather than the village of Williamson but >> >>> they >> >>> are >> >>> so close together that it does really makes much difference. >> >>> >> >>> So, anyhow, I tried finding your Russell COWLES, father of Sophia in >> >>> Pultneyville and anywhere in Wayne County but couldn't find a > reference >> >>> to him, until it suddenly dawned on me that he was being referred to > as >> >>> Russell COLES. Now that you wrote that it is pronounced as Kolz, the >> >>> spelling of COLES is understandable. See if you agree with me...... >> >>> >> >>> > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _______ >> >>> Source: Military history of Wayne County, N.Y. : the County in the > Civil >> >>> War >> >>> Sodus, N.Y by Lewis H. Clark, published by Hulett & >> >>> Gaylord, >> >>> 1883 >> >>> >> >>> page 216 [I think this is about 1814] >> >>> >> >>> ............The British soldiers, who are said to have landed from > their >> >>> Batteaux with >> >>> unloaded guns, loaded forthwith. There was a scattering of both >> >>> sides. >> >>> In >> >>> the >> >>> scuffle the British seized as prisoners, Richard White, bartender; >> >>> PRESCOTT >> >>> FAIRBANKS, Mr. Ledyards clerk, and RUSSEL COLE. The latter jumped >> >>> away in front of Ledyards store, dashed around it to the creek and > swam >> >>> over >> >>> to the other side.........Not many minutes elapsed before the enemy, >> >>> having >> >>> loaded and regained their boats, commenced a scattering of musketry >> >>> fire, >> >>> paying their particular respects to the bushes into which RUSSELL >> >>> COLE >> >>> had escaped........ The prisoners White and FAIRBANKS were taken away >> >>> and sent to Halifax. It was some months before they were > released...... >> >>> Fairbanks was the son of Rev. Eleazer Fairbanks the early >> >>> Presbyterian >> >>> minister of Palmyra who settled at what is still known as > FairbanksPoint >> >>> east of Pultneyville.....RUSSELL COLE was a blacksmith by trade and >> >>> also a gunsmith; an ingenious mechanic and withal something of a > hunter. >> >>> He could make a rifle and use it. He married a daughter of Deacon >> >>> Abraham PEPPER. >> >>> >> >>> [The reason I put PRESCOTT FAIRBANKS in capital letters, is because >> >>> his grandson, also named Prescott Fairbanks, married MARY ELIZA >> >>> COOPER, in 1868 and she is the daughter of James B. COOPER & Sarah >> >>> ROGERS & James B. is the son of GRIFFITH MORGAN COOPER whom I >> >>> mentioned in my previous message, who was born in 1791 in >> >>> Haddonfield, >> >>> New Jersey.] >> >>> >> >>> > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _____ >> >>> Source: Landmarks of Wayne County, New York by George Washington >> >>> COWLES, published by D. Mason, Syracuse, NY, 1895: >> >>> [He isn't a relation of Russell's is he?] >> >>> >> >>> Chapter XX. >> >>> History of the Town of Williamson. >> >>> page 305 >> >>> ........The second highway ...through....Williamson village.....was >> >>> later >> >>> known in this town as Jersey street from the fact that many of the >> >>> settlers along its lines came from New Jersey. >> >>> >> >>> [So this helps to explain why my New Jersey Cooper relations were >> >>> in Wayne County but I wonder why a lot came from NJ to up State >> >>> New York in the first place? G.W. Coles supplies a great deal of > detail >> >>> about Williamson & Pultneyville, including the incident with the > British >> >>> soldiers in 1814. He also spells the name as RUSSELL COLE.] >> >>> >> >>> page 315 >> >>> Pultneyville.-- This village..........RUSSELL COLE put up a >> >>> blacksmith >> >>> shop, and afterwards built a larger one on the site of the James B. >> >>> Cragg house. >> >>> >> >>> page 316 >> >>> Churches.-- The First Presbyterian Church of Williamson was or- >> >>> anized by Rev. Allen C. Collins, a missionary, November 21, 1816, >> >>> the constituent members being: ..........Wilhelmina PEPPER..... >> >>> Abraham PEPPER.....Maria FAIRBANKS >> >>> >> >>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Source: Old Houses and Churches of Wayne County, New York State >> >>> compiled by Mrs. Helen Balmat Gorman, State Historian, 1938 >> >>> >> >>> page 49 >> >>> Lake Captains Monument. >> >>> >> >>> Pultneyville, Wayne County, New York, was once a busy port >> >>> on Lake Ontario, and many of its residents were seamen. This >> >>> Monument erected to the memory of Lake Captains of the >> >>> vicinity, was dedicated in 1930. A list of the names is given. >> >>> Also on a historical marker here, one reads, >> >>> "From 1687 French Batteaux men stopped here to trade with >> >>> the Indians. First Settler "Yankee Bill" Waters, a hunter, lived >> >>> here in 1804." ..............Samuel Throop......RUSSELL COLE...... >> >>> Horatio N. Throop......John H. Ledyard.....Milton Fairbanks.....etc. >> >>> >> >>> [I don't think that they are suggesting that these gentlemen were >> >>> French. I included the Troop gents because one of their relations, >> >>> Adoniram Judson Throop married Anna Hamilton COOPER at >> >>> Pultneyville in 1878, she being the daughter of Alexander Hamilton >> >>> COOPER brother of Griffith Morgan COOPER. The Fairbanks is also >> >>> a relation of the Prescott Fairbanks who married Mary Eliza COOPER, >> >>> mentioned previously. The connection here seems to be that they >> >>> were mariners which is what Griffith Morgan Cooper claimed to be, >> >>> having been in the US Navy, as were his brothers and his father.] >> >>> > ________________________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> I hope that some of this information is of interest to you. I know >> >>> I have not proven a connection between your Nathaniel P. COOPER >> >>> and my Coopers but think that I have made a case for his possibly >> >>> being from that line of Coopers. >> >>> >> >>> I have another question to ask you. Where do you think that the >> >>> DEWITT name comes from? >> >>> - Ed >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> COOPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes >> >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> COOPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COOPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >