To Lisa and others who were part of this earlier discussion, Today I received a letter from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis regarding my March 21 request for the World War II U.S. Navy Records for my Dad. He is now 90 years old and suffers with Parkinson's disease. The letter stated that their personnel located my Dad's file. It continued "Because the veteran was completely discharged from the military more than 62 years ago, the Official Military Personnel File is now considered an 'archival' record." Thus, it is now a public record. I can request photocopies of his file for ONLY $60. Interestingly, the return reply envelope is addressed to NARA in St. Louis, which means the files have been moved. I have already found 28 U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls (1938-1949) for him on Ancestry. I hope that his file will have some additional records with many more details for my $60. Wish me luck. My check is in the mail. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Joseph, **** > > ** ** > > As his son, you are entitled to receive the information I’m sure. **** > > ** ** > > Did your dad talk about the war and his service? So many people never did. > **** > > ** ** > > My grandmother has 2 brothers who served in the Army. One in WWI and the > other in WWII. I plan**** > > on sending for their records, and hopefully I can get them. I don’t think > my grandmother is too interested, **** > > so I never asked her to sign for them, but if my request is rejected, I > guess I’ll have to. **** > > ** ** > > My grandfather had some health issues so he never served in the military, > but he worked as a civilian**** > > electrician on the air base in Roswell, New Mexico. I would like to see > if there are any records for him.**** > > ** ** > > I hope your information arrives soon,**** > > Lisa**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:50 PM > *To:* Lisa Lepore > > *Subject:* Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records**** > > ** ** > > Thank you, Lisa. > > I printed a form and mailed it to St. Louis. My Dad was in the Navy, so > his records should be there. Problem is that he is now 90 years old and > lives with Parkinson's. He has not read anything for years, and he cannot > write. I explained that in a cover letter and sent along both my birth and > baptism records as evidence that I am his son. > > Will wait to see what happens. > > Joseph > > > > > **** > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > **** > > Hi Joseph, > > I'm sure you can get the records as next of kin, but if you or > someone else has power of attorney for your dad, or if he is able to > sign for himself, you might be better off having him sign the request. > > I say this because there could be records that are covered by privacy laws > like > health related things that could be released to him, but not to you. > > Lisa**** > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il- > > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:10 PM > > To: Nancy Loe > > Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > >**** > > > Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? > > > > My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in > > Houston. > > > > May I obtain his records as next of kin? > > > > Joseph Martin > > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army > > > a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again > > > in an online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got > > > about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks > > > because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. > > > Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost > $60, > > same as an IDPF. > > > > > > At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you > > > may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to > > > the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used > > > her > > > personally: > > > > > > *Redbird Research* > > > 3 Sandbar Ct > > > St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 > > > *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 > > > *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 > > > *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net > > > *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller > > > *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military > > > records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning > > > reports and rosters, cemeteries. > > > > > > Nancy > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following > > > > service > > > > branches: > > > > > > > > ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost > > > > > > > > AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost > > > > > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec > > Prayer) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message**** > > > > > -- > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec > Prayer) **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

Hi Joseph, That's great. Thanks for letting us know how this turned out. I didn't know about the 62 years. I hope there is a lot of information there for you. I don't think the Navy Records were involved in the fire. Lisa From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:16 PM To: Lisa Lepore Cc: COOK-CO-IL Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records To Lisa and others who were part of this earlier discussion, Today I received a letter from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis regarding my March 21 request for the World War II U.S. Navy Records for my Dad. He is now 90 years old and suffers with Parkinson's disease. The letter stated that their personnel located my Dad's file. It continued "Because the veteran was completely discharged from the military more than 62 years ago, the Official Military Personnel File is now considered an 'archival' record." Thus, it is now a public record. I can request photocopies of his file for ONLY $60. Interestingly, the return reply envelope is addressed to NARA in St. Louis, which means the files have been moved. I have already found 28 U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls (1938-1949) for him on Ancestry. I hope that his file will have some additional records with many more details for my $60. Wish me luck. My check is in the mail. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Joseph, As his son, you are entitled to receive the information I'm sure. Did your dad talk about the war and his service? So many people never did. My grandmother has 2 brothers who served in the Army. One in WWI and the other in WWII. I plan on sending for their records, and hopefully I can get them. I don't think my grandmother is too interested, so I never asked her to sign for them, but if my request is rejected, I guess I'll have to. My grandfather had some health issues so he never served in the military, but he worked as a civilian electrician on the air base in Roswell, New Mexico. I would like to see if there are any records for him. I hope your information arrives soon, Lisa From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:50 PM To: Lisa Lepore Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records Thank you, Lisa. I printed a form and mailed it to St. Louis. My Dad was in the Navy, so his records should be there. Problem is that he is now 90 years old and lives with Parkinson's. He has not read anything for years, and he cannot write. I explained that in a cover letter and sent along both my birth and baptism records as evidence that I am his son. Will wait to see what happens. Joseph On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Joseph, I'm sure you can get the records as next of kin, but if you or someone else has power of attorney for your dad, or if he is able to sign for himself, you might be better off having him sign the request. I say this because there could be records that are covered by privacy laws like health related things that could be released to him, but not to you. Lisa > -----Original Message----- > From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:10 PM > To: Nancy Loe > Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > > Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? > > My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in > Houston. > > May I obtain his records as next of kin? > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army > > a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again > > in an online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got > > about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks > > because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. > > Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost $60, > same as an IDPF. > > > > At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you > > may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to > > the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used > > her > > personally: > > > > *Redbird Research* > > 3 Sandbar Ct > > St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 > > *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 <tel:%28636%29%20448-3275> > > *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 <tel:%28636%29%20447-5154> > > *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net > > *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller > > *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military > > records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning > > reports and rosters, cemeteries. > > > > Nancy > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following > > > service > > > branches: > > > > > > ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost > > > > > > AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost > > > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec > Prayer) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message -- "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec Prayer) -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.