Hi Beth Oh boy! Am I familiar with what you say? I have an ancestor ticked on the Census as a male under 10 yrs of age. The bairn died and was listed as 'male child' on the cemetery plans. It even gave exactly how old he was, 3 yrs. 3 mnths. and so many days. I could then work out his exact dob but still there was no name. We travelled to Chicago from England to see the grave at Gracelands. The staff there had been wonderful with help. Unfortunately the headstones had all been removed from each 2nd row to allow access for the lawnmower, so still I have no name. I took a photograph of a stone inset with a number on it. Sheila KC A Scot in England. [email protected] wrote: > I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there on her side than on his side.) > > Beth Gatlin > > >

Beth and Sheila, Could recording a birth be dependent on whether or not the birth had a midwife or doctor?  I think they did the registering.  If the child were born without a doctor/midwife, could be no record was made.  There may be a church record of a baptism somewhere.  Or a mention in the Trib Archives?  Just my thoughts on why there may be no record. Why not try again and ask the list?  Could be there are new sites or new people on the list who might have insights. Patti ________________________________ From: Pentlands <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record Hi Beth Oh boy! Am I familiar with what you say? I have an ancestor ticked on the Census as a male under 10 yrs of age. The bairn died and was listed as 'male child' on the cemetery plans. It even gave exactly how old he was, 3 yrs. 3 mnths. and so many days. I could then work out his exact dob but still there was no name. We travelled to Chicago from England to see the grave at Gracelands. The staff there had been wonderful with help. Unfortunately the headstones had all been removed from each 2nd row to allow access for the lawnmower, so still I have no name. I took a photograph of a stone inset with a number on it. Sheila KC A Scot in England. [email protected] wrote: > I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she >was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's >name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and >they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side >of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there >on her side than on his side.) > > Beth Gatlin > > >  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh no! The headstones were removed? Sorry to hear that...and that may be bad news for me too. I have a family Bible record with the names and death dates of three "mystery people" who must have been relatives, since they were listed and the surname is one of the family surnames. Unfortunately no birth dates were given. They were buried at Graceland; the family record even gives the grave locations. These people died in the 1860s, so death records will not be available. I suspect they may be children that died young, but I don't know for sure. One person had the same name as the father of an immigrant ancestor, but I don't know if the father came over and died in Chicago, or if a son or brother was named after him. I'm hoping that the graves at Graceland will have headstones that include birth dates for these people, because I would like to figure out who they were. Beth Gatlin -----Original Message----- From: Pentlands <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record Hi Beth Oh boy! Am I familiar with what you say? I have an ancestor ticked on the Census as a male under 10 yrs of age. The bairn died and was listed as 'male child' on the cemetery plans. It even gave exactly how old he was, 3 yrs. 3 mnths. and so many days. I could then work out his exact dob but still there was no name. We travelled to Chicago from England to see the grave at Gracelands. The staff there had been wonderful with help. Unfortunately the headstones had all been removed from each 2nd row to allow access for the lawnmower, so still I have no name. I took a photograph of a stone inset with a number on it. Sheila KC A Scot in England. [email protected] wrote: > I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there on her side than on his side.) > > Beth Gatlin > > >