Hello, There ia a Benjamin and Irving Fishman shown in the 1930 census living at the Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum. Irving is shown to be 12 years old and "Benj" 13 years old, living in New York state, Kings county, Brooklyn, ED 24-670 and sheet 16A. One could theorize that their parents had to give them up for some reason or that their parents were deceased. Bye, Dave Otto