Thanks, can you tell me how to access the voter registration and city directory? Are they online? I know that in 1897 he was living at 123 Perry St. Chicago, Cook, IL. On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:01 AM, cook-co-il-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Where was John born? Or at any way where do his sons say he was born? > That could help a lot to sort the Johns. > > The Chicago Voters Reg books might help if you have an address for > 1895 that might/maybe/possibly <G> be good in 1892. You might catch > him in the city directories with Mamie, and you might catch mention of > a death. > > > > Eliz

Thanks to everyone for your help. I found a second obit from his wife that says John Becker was dead before she remarried in 1901. I also got a family search record about his son Matthew. Thanks also for explaining the term graves. You "guys" are all so great. Jackie > >

Where was John born? Or at any way where do his sons say he was born? That could help a lot to sort the Johns. The Chicago Voters Reg books might help if you have an address for 1895 that might/maybe/possibly <G> be good in 1892. You might catch him in the city directories with Mamie, and you might catch mention of a death. Eliz On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jackie & Al Fritsch <ajfritsch@excel.net> wrote: > How do I find the right John Becker > >> I have been searching for a John Becker that married Mary "Mamie" >> Berg and had two sons, Matthew (1897-1955) and Nicholas.(1896-1975) >> They were married Oct 2, 1895 in Cook County. She married a second >> time to William J Fichter on Oct 29, 1901, also in Cook County. > >> I have not been able to find out if John Becker died or if they were >> divorced.  Based on his being 21 at the time of their marriage I >> estimate that he is born about 1874. > >> She ended up living and dying in Belvidere. There was another John >> Becker about the same time that died and is buried in Belvidere. He >> is John C. Becker and the wrong Becker. > >> How do I find the right Becker and what happened to him? I am >> guessing that if he is buried in Cook County it may be at St. >> Boniface. > > > >> To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com >> . >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 >> ***************************************** >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This definition is from Raymond Johnson of the Chicago Genealogy Examiner, Sept 9, 2009. "For lack of a better comparison, a term grave could be looked at as a grave "rental" A term grave is an option usually chosen when a family cannot afford a "perpetual" grave site. It can be for any time frame specified in the contract between the purchaser and the cemetery but is usually 20-25 years. After the expiration of the "term" the family is usually given a specified length of time to purchase the grave in "perpetuity" In the case where a family decides to not renew the term or purchase the grave in perpetuity than the ground is built up a few feet above the previous grave and the marker (if there is one) is either thrown away or placed on top of the previous grave. The grave is then available for a new burial on top of the old burial with it's new respective marker. " Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie & Al Fritsch" <ajfritsch@excel.net> To: <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] What is a Term grave? >I got some information from St. Boniface Cemetery in Cook County that > said 2 of my relatives were in term graves. What is a term grave? Do > they dig the bodies up and move them after a certain amount of time? > They were buried in 1879 and 1899. > >> >> To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to >> COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com >> . >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 >> ***************************************** >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I got some information from St. Boniface Cemetery in Cook County that said 2 of my relatives were in term graves. What is a term grave? Do they dig the bodies up and move them after a certain amount of time? They were buried in 1879 and 1899. > > To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 > ***************************************** >

How do I find the right John Becker > I have been searching for a John Becker that married Mary "Mamie" > Berg and had two sons, Matthew (1897-1955) and Nicholas.(1896-1975) > They were married Oct 2, 1895 in Cook County. She married a second > time to William J Fichter on Oct 29, 1901, also in Cook County. > I have not been able to find out if John Becker died or if they were > divorced. Based on his being 21 at the time of their marriage I > estimate that he is born about 1874. > She ended up living and dying in Belvidere. There was another John > Becker about the same time that died and is buried in Belvidere. He > is John C. Becker and the wrong Becker. > How do I find the right Becker and what happened to him? I am > guessing that if he is buried in Cook County it may be at St. > Boniface. > To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 > ***************************************** >

Name: Theresa J Kornackee Death Date: 4 Jul 1971 County of Death: Brevard State of Death: Florida Age at Death: 72 Race: White Birth Date: 13 Sep 1898 Eliz On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Joseph Martin <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> wrote: > Barb, > > Are any of these possibilities? > > Joseph Martin > >

LOL Sorry for laughing, but it is in shared pain. I think I found him, born Montreal living in Illinois in the WW II old mans draft. Dates are off a bit and the spelling is off a lot, but his wife is Theresa. I found the couple in 1930 and Joseph dying in Florida. Name: Joseph Patrick Kornackee Birth Date: 18 Mar 1895 Birth Place: Montreal, Canada Residence: Berwyn, Illinois Race: White Age: Occupation: working Western Electric Nearest Relative: Theresa I searched Jos* Korn* (all countries) and when I went into the WW II Draft I gave March 1894 + or - 2, I have found always the month is correct but very often the year differs from 1900 and any births I might have and differs still from the SSDI or death certificates. Name: Joseph Kornackee Birth Year: abt 1896 Birthplace: Canada Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois View Map Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Theresa F Kornackee Occupation: Education: Military Service: Rent/home value: Age at first marriage: Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Kornackee 34 Theresa F Kornackee 28 Gloria F Kornackee 9/12 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois; Roll: 472; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 1318; Image: 260.0. Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 about Joseph Patrick Kornackee Name: Joseph Patrick Kornackee Death Date: Jan 1960 County of Death: Pinellas State of Death: Florida Race: White Gender: Male On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Barb Pardol <barbp1220@att.net> wrote: > I need some help to break down a brick wall regarding Joseph Kornatowski and his wife, Theresa Gruszczynska.  Joseph was born March 17, 1894 in Montreal, Canada.  He and his family immigrated to the US in May 1894.  They were Chicago residents and attended St. Hedwig's Church.  Joseph is living with his parents, Constantine & Florence Kornatowski in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census.  He married Theresa Gruszczynska in June 1922.  I have not been able to find a death date for either one of them, or find them in the 1930 census.  Also have not found WWI and WWII draft registration cards for Joseph.  The last mention of him that I have is his sister's obit (Marie Wiedemann) in Oct. 1951.  His parents are buried at St. Adalbert's Cemetery.  Any help will be greatly appreciated! > > Barb P. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb, Are any of these possibilities? Joseph Martin KORNATOWSKI, CONSTNTN <http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=4087597&index=0> Death3111011/2/1946 KORNATOWSKI, FLORENCE <http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=4878972&index=0> Death6003617 2/5/1933 KORNATOWSKI, JOSEPH <http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=1527925&index=0> Death6013418 7/2/1986 KORNATOWSKI, LOUISE T<http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=1219092&index=0> Death614500 6/28/1978 KORNATOWSKI, MARION <http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=2525058&index=0> Death6019247 6/28/1926 KORNATOWSKI, STEVE S<http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=4788340&index=0> Death6006073 2/26/1928 KORNATOWSKI, THERESA B<http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=1476942&index=0> Death6019950 10/8/1985 KORNATOWSKI, THERESA B<http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordView.aspx?fileRecordId=1493297&index=0> Death6019950 10/8/1985 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Barb Pardol <barbp1220@att.net> wrote: > I need some help to break down a brick wall regarding Joseph Kornatowski > and his wife, Theresa Gruszczynska. Joseph was born March 17, 1894 in > Montreal, Canada. He and his family immigrated to the US in May 1894. > They were Chicago residents and attended St. Hedwig's Church. Joseph is > living with his parents, Constantine & Florence Kornatowski in the 1900, > 1910 and 1920 census. He married Theresa Gruszczynska in June 1922. I > have not been able to find a death date for either one of them, or find > them in the 1930 census. Also have not found WWI and WWII draft > registration cards for Joseph. The last mention of him that I have is his > sister's obit (Marie Wiedemann) in Oct. 1951. His parents are buried at > St. Adalbert's Cemetery. Any help will be greatly appreciated! > > Barb P. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- People are funny. They want the front of the bus, the middle of the road, and the back of the church.

I need some help to break down a brick wall regarding Joseph Kornatowski and his wife, Theresa Gruszczynska.  Joseph was born March 17, 1894 in Montreal, Canada.  He and his family immigrated to the US in May 1894.  They were Chicago residents and attended St. Hedwig's Church.  Joseph is living with his parents, Constantine & Florence Kornatowski in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census.  He married Theresa Gruszczynska in June 1922.  I have not been able to find a death date for either one of them, or find them in the 1930 census.  Also have not found WWI and WWII draft registration cards for Joseph.  The last mention of him that I have is his sister's obit (Marie Wiedemann) in Oct. 1951.  His parents are buried at St. Adalbert's Cemetery.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!   Barb P.

There are two Peter Thompson's listed in the 1910 Census, both age 50; one is living in the 27th Ward whose occupation is a woodwork carver (shaper?), and the otherr is living in the 17th Ward whose occupation is dry sea sailor (huh?).  I'm guessing this just confuses things more.   Good luck, Ruth --- On Wed, 1/18/12, Laura Aanenson <where2look4ancestors@gmail.com> wrote: From: Laura Aanenson <where2look4ancestors@gmail.com> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1900 occupation - shafer? To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 11:41 AM Good afternoon Cooksters, Could some kind soul please help me? I cannot read an occupation that appears on the 1900 census. The ancestor in question is Peter Thompson who appears on line 92 of this page: <http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148> > which is from "Census Place: *Chicago Ward 26, Cook, Illinois*; Roll: * T623_276*; Page: *6B*; Enumeration District: *779" * The family story is that Peter was a sailor before leaving Norway. I didn't see anything similar to shafer before and after page 310 on the list of 1900 US Census Occupations listed on Rootdig: <http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html<http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html> > Peter is one of my brick wall ancestors and I am hoping that by determining his occupation in this census, I can move closer to finding him in Norway. Thanks in advance! Relatively speaking, Laura PS: Are we related? See my family tree here http://livinginthepastlane.comand here http://livinginthepastlane.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the following at www.occupationalinfo.org Hope this helps... -Toni H.   shaper (button & notion) 734.684-010 shaper (jewelry-silver.) 700.684-034 shaper (ordnance) 761.381-038 shaper (pottery & porc.) 774.684-018 shaper (stonework) 673.382-010 SHAPER AND PRESSER (garment) 583.685-102 SHAPER, BASEBALL GLOVE (toy-sport equip.) 732.684-106 SHAPER, HAND (furniture) 761.684-038 shaper machine hand (machine shop) 605.382-038 shaper operator (machine shop) 605.382-038 SHAPER OPERATOR (woodworking) 665.682-034 Shaper Setter (woodworking) 669.280-010 SHAPER SET-UP OPERATOR, TOOL (machine shop) 605.382-038 shaping-machine operator (machine shop) 605.382-038 SHAPING-MACHINE OPERATOR (plastic prod.) 690.685-354 SHAPING MACHINE TENDER (furniture) 665.685-046 ________________________________ From: Laura Aanenson <where2look4ancestors@gmail.com> To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 11:41:07 AM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1900 occupation - shafer? Good afternoon Cooksters, Could some kind soul please help me? I cannot read an occupation that appears on the 1900 census. The ancestor in question is Peter Thompson who appears on line 92 of this page: <http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148> > which is from "Census Place: *Chicago Ward 26, Cook, Illinois*; Roll: * T623_276*; Page: *6B*; Enumeration District: *779" * The family story is that Peter was a sailor before leaving Norway. I didn't see anything similar to shafer before and after page 310 on the list of 1900 US Census Occupations listed on Rootdig: <http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html<http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html> >

I think it says "shaper." The letter p in Thompson looks like the letter in the occupation. But what did he shape? Wood (carpentry of some sort)? Fabric (clothing)? The possibilities are endless. Unfortunately, I can't find shaper on lists of old occupations, perhaps because it's so general. Diane

I would suggest that Peter was a shaper, which I believe had something to do with tool and die work. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Laura Aanenson < where2look4ancestors@gmail.com> wrote: > Good afternoon Cooksters, > > Could some kind soul please help me? I cannot read an occupation that > appears on the 1900 census. The ancestor in question is Peter Thompson who > appears on line 92 of this page: > < > http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148 > < > http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148 > > > > > which is from "Census Place: *Chicago Ward 26, Cook, Illinois*; Roll: * > T623_276*; Page: *6B*; Enumeration District: *779" * > > The family story is that Peter was a sailor before leaving Norway. I didn't > see anything similar to shafer before and after page 310 on the list of > 1900 US Census Occupations listed on Rootdig: > <http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html< > http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html> > > > > Peter is one of my brick wall ancestors and I am hoping that by determining > his occupation in this census, I can move closer to finding him in Norway. > > Thanks in advance! > > Relatively speaking, > > Laura > > PS: Are we related? See my family tree here > http://livinginthepastlane.comand here > http://livinginthepastlane.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- People are funny. They want the front of the bus, the middle of the road, and the back of the church.

Good afternoon Cooksters, Could some kind soul please help me? I cannot read an occupation that appears on the 1900 census. The ancestor in question is Peter Thompson who appears on line 92 of this page: <http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113735_00154&fn=Peter&ln=Thompson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11108148> > which is from "Census Place: *Chicago Ward 26, Cook, Illinois*; Roll: * T623_276*; Page: *6B*; Enumeration District: *779" * The family story is that Peter was a sailor before leaving Norway. I didn't see anything similar to shafer before and after page 310 on the list of 1900 US Census Occupations listed on Rootdig: <http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html<http://rootdig.blogspot.com/2011/05/1900-us-census-occupations.html> > Peter is one of my brick wall ancestors and I am hoping that by determining his occupation in this census, I can move closer to finding him in Norway. Thanks in advance! Relatively speaking, Laura PS: Are we related? See my family tree here http://livinginthepastlane.comand here http://livinginthepastlane.blogspot.com/

Yes, they're very slow now. If you think you're missing e-mails or have been unsubscribed, you can always go to the archives and look at the last month's e-mails, see if you've gotten them. Diane

Thanks everyone I just got a new computer and I don't seem to be getting anything from some of the lists. Are the list just slow because of the holidays? Thanks Barb

Just testing I don't seem to be getting any messages. Thank You

Came through just fine. Toni H. ________________________________ From: Barb Biegel <biegs7@prodigy.net> To: COOK-Co-IL@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, January 16, 2012 8:52:03 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] test Just testing I don't seem to be getting any messages. Thank You ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope this doesn't violate any list rules here. I found this on another of my lists. Seems to be real. How many of our genealogy sites would this effect if passed? Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:50:36 -0600 From: Debbie Greenlee <daveg@airmail.net> Subject: [POLAND] Copyright Blacklist To: Polish Genius <polish_genius@yahoogroups.com>, Poland Roots <POLAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com>, Bukowsko Triangle <bukowsko_triangle@yahoogroups.com>, Sanok Group <Sanok@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <4F1222DC.9050300@airmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 many web sites will be black in protest to the upcoming government bill (Stop Online Piracy Act) which makes individual web sites responsible for copyright violations. This bill includes any site that has user-uploaded files including email list groups such as this one. Other valuable web sites which would be affected are Wikipedia, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Google and Yahoo. Ebay and Amazon are protesting SOPA even though they are not particularly vulnerable. What will probably happen is that the large hosting sites will end up policing themselves but sloppily, rather than wait for the government to shut them down for only one (1) copyright violation. So, if a host, (Wikipedia) for instance, thinks there is a copyright violation, rather than checking it out (costly) they'll just remove the item. The blackout will last for 12 hours, 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Some sites will just put up a banner allowing people to click through to the site. Other sites may not allow you to click through for the 12 hours. Many of the major sites are against the "Stop Online Piracy Act" (SOPA). The bill just doesn't cover music but it seems to be fueled by the music, movie, and graphic artist industry though it will affect written material as well and that's where the genealogy lists come in. I am sorry to say that a Texas Representative came up with SOPA. http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57329001-281/how-sopa-would-affect-you-faq/ For more information about SOPA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act Forbes article: http://tinyurl.com/6rjaztn Debbie