Ancestry.com has the following collection searchable for FREE UNTIL APRIL 10, 2012:   1940's ERA COLLECTIONS  --  http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/1940censusera     Ruth    "The life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living." - Cicero

Arlington Heights Memorial Library does have Chicago telephone directories, the earliest in their collection being 1980 (nothing earlier).  Also, they do not have all consecutive dates from that year forward.   Ruth   "The life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living." - Cicero   ________________________________ From: Frank Suerth <suerth@surfnetcorp.com> To: cook-co-il@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Chicago telephone directories Diane, I think they have Chicago telephone directories at the Arlington Hts. Library on film. Frank in Chicago When replying to a digest message, please change the subject line to match the post you are replying to and remove all other posts. Please do not send the entire digest back to the list! Today's Topics: 1. 1940 Chicago telephone directory (dlculhane@cs.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: dlculhane@cs.com Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1940 Chicago telephone directory To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CEDC93807D2CD8-1FA4-4382@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone on the list have convenient access to the 1940 Chicago telephone directory? I'd like to get my parents' address so I can look them up in the census next month, but I live in Arlington Heights and so far have learned of copies only at the Chicago History Museum, Newberry Library, and Chicago Public Library. Diane ------------------------------ To contact the COOK-CO-IL list administrator, send an email to COOK-CO-IL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 53 ***************************************** ���������� ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding the Find-A-Grave discussion, I'm not sure whose property a headstone or monument is once installed on a grave or plot.  However, it would seem these loving tributes to the dead are placed partially with the intention of letting future generations know that these people once walked among us...that they are not forgotten.   Furthermore, cemeteries are open to the public so privacy rights would seem forfeit.  I've never been able to rationalize the stand of Dignity Memorial cemeteries, which do not allow photographs to be taken.  It's not like you're stealing the soul of the dead, and I don't buy into the identify theft argument...the 'bad guys' don't need cemeteries for that.   Well, anyway, that's my two cents worth on the subject.   Ruth "The life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living." - Cicero

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Otis SCATTERGOOD which was taken at the G. W. Stewart Studio in Bluffton, Indiana. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Otis likely in his teens at the time. Based on limited research and thanks to a SCATTERGOOD Family Researcher I was able to gather the following information regarding Otis and his family: Otis Odell SCATTERGOOD was b. 18 Jun 1872 in Wells, IN to parents Charles Wesley SCATTERGOOD (b. 29 Jul 1849 in New Garden, OH d. 15 Jan 1928 in Ossian, IN) and Eliza Almira SOWLE (b. 28 Jan 1852 in Wells, IN d. 1924). Otis was one of 4 children born to this couple including, Isaac Euclydes; Otis Odell; Milton Everett; and J. Whitfield SCATTERGOOD, all born in Wells, IN and Dowagiac, MI between 1870 and 1879. Otis married Eva A. ALLEN (b. abt 1878 in IN) on 18 Jun 1902 in Anderson, IN and together they had a son, Allen SCATTERGOOD b. 10 Jul 1910 in IL. Otis d. 1958 in Lebanon, IN. Otis is buried in the Oak Hill Cemetery in Lebanon, IN. Census records provide the following information: 1910 census of Chicago, IL: Otis O. SCATTERGOOD, age 37, married 7 years, born IN, parents born OH/IN, Asst. Newspaper Circulation Mgr. Eva A. SCATTERGOOD, wife, age 32, married 7 years, no children, born IN, parents born NC/IN + 1 Lodger 1920 census of Chicago, IL: Otis O. SCATTERGOOD, age 47, born IN, parents born OH/IN, a Newspaper Solicitor Eva A. SCATTERGOOD, wife, age 42, born IN, parents born NC/IN Allen SCATTERGOOD, son, age 9, born IL 1930 census of Orange, NJ: Otis O. SCATTERGOOD, age 57 Eva A. SCATTERGOOD, age 52 Allen SCATTERGOOD, age 19 Otis' son Allen SCATTERGOOD was a chemistry professor at University of Mass. at Lowell and is believed to have died there in 1983. I am hoping to locate someone from the family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Otis SCATTERGOOD which was taken at the G. W. Stewart Studio in Bluffton, Indiana. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Otis likely in his teens at the time. Based on limited research and thanks to a SCATTERGOOD Family Researcher I was able to gather the following information regarding Otis and his family: Otis Odell SCATTERGOOD was b. 18 Jun 1872 in Wells, IN to parents Charles Wesley SCATTERGOOD (b. 29 Jul 1849 in New Garden, OH d. 15 Jan 1928 in Ossian, IN) and Eliza Almira SOWLE (b. 28 Jan 1852 in Wells, IN d. 1924). Otis was one of 4 children born to this couple including, Isaac Euclydes; Otis Odell; Milton Everett; and J. Whitfield SCATTERGOOD, all born in Wells, IN and Dowagiac, MI between 1870 and 1879. Otis married Eva A. ALLEN (b. abt 1878 in IN) on 18 Jun 1902 in Anderson, IN and together they had a son, Allen SCATTERGOOD b. 10 Jul 1910 in IL. Otis d. 1958 in Lebanon, IN. Otis is buried in the Oak Hill Cemetery in Lebanon, IN. Census records provide the following information: 1910 census of Chicago, IL: Otis O. SCATTERGOOD, age 37, married 7 years, born IN, parents born OH/IN, Asst. Newspaper Circulation Mgr. Eva A. SCATTERGOOD, wife, age 32, married 7 years, no children, born IN, parents born NC/IN + 1 Lodger 1920 census of Chicago, IL: Otis O. SCATTERGOOD, age 47, born IN, parents born OH/IN, a Newspaper Solicitor Eva A. SCATTERGOOD, wife, age 42, born IN, parents born NC/IN Allen SCATTERGOOD, son, age 9, born IL 1930 census of Orange, NJ: Otis O. SCATTERGOOD, age 57 Eva A. SCATTERGOOD, age 52 Allen SCATTERGOOD, age 19 Otis' son Allen SCATTERGOOD was a chemistry professor at University of Mass. at Lowell and is believed to have died there in 1983. I am hoping to locate someone from the family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Ever try to date a photo you found? Come to a Talk on, “Dating Photographs Through Clothing” Saturday, April 14, 2012, 1:00 PM Northbrook Historical Society 1776 Walters Avenue, Northbrook, IL Please bring photographs with you and Ellie Carlson will try to date them using techniques outlined in the presentation. For more information: http://www.meetup.com/The-Northwest-Chicago-History-Meetup-Group/events/57265082/

Diane, I think they have Chicago telephone directories at the Arlington Hts. Library on film. Frank in Chicago When replying to a digest message, please change the subject line to match the post you are replying to and remove all other posts. Please do not send the entire digest back to the list! Today's Topics: 1. 1940 Chicago telephone directory (dlculhane@cs.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: dlculhane@cs.com Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1940 Chicago telephone directory To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CEDC93807D2CD8-1FA4-4382@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone on the list have convenient access to the 1940 Chicago telephone directory? I'd like to get my parents' address so I can look them up in the census next month, but I live in Arlington Heights and so far have learned of copies only at the Chicago History Museum, Newberry Library, and Chicago Public Library. Diane ------------------------------ To contact the COOK-CO-IL list administrator, send an email to COOK-CO-IL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 53 ***************************************** ����������

Does anyone on the list have convenient access to the 1940 Chicago telephone directory? I'd like to get my parents' address so I can look them up in the census next month, but I live in Arlington Heights and so far have learned of copies only at the Chicago History Museum, Newberry Library, and Chicago Public Library. Diane

This also covers colleges that merged or changed their names. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: gainebyrne@comcast.net To: "Cook County list" <COOK-CO-IL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:01:27 AM Subject: Closed schools Found this while looking for a closed college in Whiteside County. It's for the whole state and there are lots of closed/old schools in Chicago. http://www2.westminster-mo.edu/wc_users/homepages/staff/brownr/IllinoisCC.htm Debbie

Found this while looking for a closed college in Whiteside County. It's for the whole state and there are lots of closed/old schools in Chicago. http://www2.westminster-mo.edu/wc_users/homepages/staff/brownr/IllinoisCC.htm Debbie

Listers, According to an article in Irish Central, the is a new famine database. See http://www.irishcentral.com/news/New-Irish-Famine-documents-shed-light-on-incredible-nuns-and-priests-in-Canada-143951296.html Bill

What’s New with Family Search On Sunday, April 1, 2012 the Genealogical Forum of Elmhurst will host a presentation by Christine Bell. The meeting will be held at 3:00 p.m. in the Community Bank of Elmhurst, 300 W Butterfield Rd, Elmhurst (intersection of Spring Road. There is a traffic light and a Shell station on the NE corner). Guests are welcome. For information, call 708/531-0449. www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilgfe/ The program will review the latest updates to this very large, free on-line database. The Genealogical Forum of Elmhurst is a family history club serving people in the western suburbs of Chicago. The club seeks to educate and stimulate, to share and help, and to promote genealogy in a non-critical way. General meetings of the organization are held on five Sunday afternoons each year. Please join us for this informative lecture. Sharon Zarembka, Secretary The Genealogical Forum of Elmhurst

Joseph, We had a speaker from NARA-Great Lakes at the South Suburban Genealogical & Historical Society's meeting earlier this month who spoke on military records. I believe he said that only Army and Army Air Force records were destroyed in the 1973 fire. Naval records from WWII are available. He also had a pamphlet available that says that Navy, Marine and Coast Guard records were not affected by the fire in St. Louis in 1973. Check the NARA website for the proper form(s) that you need to fill out. As a next-of-kin, you should have no problems obtaining your father's naval service records. This is a website referred to in the pamphlet about WWII service records: http://archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/get-service-records.ht ml . I hope this helps you. Thomas Mackowiak MACKOWIAK/SERWATKIEWICZ/JANUSZEWSKI/WANATOWICZ/MROZ/MUNO/HARNEY/GLENNON/McKA Y/LESCZYNSKI/ORLIKOWSKI -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Joseph Martin Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in Houston. May I obtain his records as next of kin? Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois

Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in Houston. May I obtain his records as next of kin? Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: > I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army a > few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again in an > online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got about 35 > pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks because NARA had > to stabilize the files before they could copy them. Some of the records > have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost $60, same as an IDPF. > > At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you may > get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to the > archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used her > personally: > > *Redbird Research* > 3 Sandbar Ct > St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 > *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 > *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 > *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net > *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller > *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military > records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning > reports and rosters, cemeteries. > > Nancy > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following service > > branches: > > > > ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost > > > > AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost > > > > Ruth > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec Prayer)

I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again in an online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost $60, same as an IDPF. At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used her personally: *Redbird Research* 3 Sandbar Ct St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning reports and rosters, cemeteries. Nancy On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> wrote: > Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following service > branches: > > ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost > > AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost > > Ruth > >

Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following service branches:   ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost   AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost   Ruth "The life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living." - Cicero   ________________________________ From: Linda Brown <lb608@sbcglobal.net> To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:50 AM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records I sent the form for service records and received a reply with the box checked -  No. Unabel to locate the file requested.  I know that there should be a record.  Is there any way to find these service records besides the NARA?  Any suggestions?  Linda in North  Aurora ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone for ideas on retrieving service records from NARA that couldn't be found. Linda in North Aurora

Try again later, my mother tried to get my fathers records and was told about the fire. When I sent for them, years later, they found them. Eliz On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Linda Brown <lb608@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I sent the form for service records and received a reply with the box checked -  No. Unabel to locate the file requested.  I know that there should be a record.  Is there any way to find these service records besides the NARA?  Any suggestions?  Linda in North  Aurora > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

   The Records Center in St. Louis did suffer a catastrophic fire - however - about half the records were "lost". I had a friend [now gone] who worked there and was able to recover a few of the records that began with "Le...". But any records I wanted earlier in the alphabet were "poof". Even to get what she did - only because she worked there - was difficult. Everything was encased in plastic and she had to wear white "darkroom gloves" to handle the remaining pieces. I NEVER would have gotten the few bits of info I did if she hadn't helped. Some pieces were too small and charred to handle - think of piecing the Dead Sea Scrolls.    On the other hand, when did the military EVER do anything that wasn't in triplicate - those copies had to go somewhere. Any ideas anyone? Toni H. St. Peters, MO ________________________________ From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> To: Linda Brown <lb608@sbcglobal.net> Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 8:54:48 AM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records Try again later, my mother tried to get my fathers records and was told about the fire. When I sent for them, years later, they found them. Eliz On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Linda Brown <lb608@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I sent the form for service records and received a reply with the box checked >-  No. Unabel to locate the file requested.  I know that there should be a >record.  Is there any way to find these service records besides the NARA?  Any >suggestions?  Linda in North  Aurora > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some of the records were burned in a fire.  Hopefully not yours --- On Sat, 3/17/12, Linda Brown <lb608@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Linda Brown <lb608@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012, 7:50 AM I sent the form for service records and received a reply with the box checked -  No. Unabel to locate the file requested.  I know that there should be a record.  Is there any way to find these service records besides the NARA?  Any suggestions?  Linda in North  Aurora ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message