I have a new brick wall: Katherine Goetzelman(n) was buried at Waldheim Cemetery 31 May 1882, at age 56, so born abt 1826. There is no burial card & no headstone. I cannot find a death record on familysearch. A friend searched her ancestry & came up empty handed. Googling the name brought up nothing. My guess is that she is a sister-in-law of my gr gr grandmother Barbara Goetzelmann Schaetzlein. Or, if Barbara was not married when she had her first 2 children in Oberaltertheim Germany, Barbara's maiden name could have been Goetzelmann, making Katherine her sister or sister-in-law. The first burial in the Waldheim plot was Michael Schaetzlein (d. 1876), the next was Katherine. Michael is the 2nd husband of Barbara, so Katherine was technically not related to him. I have plenty of info on the entire Goetzelmann/Schaetzlein family, except this newly discovered Katherine Goetzelman(n). Can someone with access to the Daily News or Trib obits look up an obit for Katherine (or Catherine) Goetzelman(n)? I won't be surprised if there is none, but I need to cover all the bases. Thanks in advance. Judy, in Alaska, where we now have had 133.6" snow. Enjoy your warm temps, Chicago.

Hi Mary, Go to the Stephen Morse web page and scroll down to the 1940 census section. Click on the 1940 Finder. It might be the first one. Then enter the state and address and follow the directions. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Mary Kaehny <mkaeh7@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I have an address in 1938: > 6103 N. Claremont, Chicago, Cook County, IL > > How would I find the enumeration district number. > > thanks, > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

I have an address in 1938: 6103 N. Claremont, Chicago, Cook County, IL How would I find the enumeration district number. thanks,

Joseph, Thank you for the link to the blank 1940 Census Sheet. I was looking for a copy myself. Thomas Mackowiak MACKOWIAK/SERWATKIEWICZ/JANUSZEWSKI/WANATOWICZ/MROZ/MUNO/HARNEY/GLENNON/McKA Y/LESCZYNSKI/ORLIKOWSKI -----Original Message----- From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 8:47 AM To: Diane Miskiewicz Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Blank 1940 Census Sheet Here you go. http://www.archives.gov/research/census/1940/1940.pdf Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois

Here you go. http://www.archives.gov/research/census/1940/1940.pdf Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Diane Miskiewicz <bitsyba@gmail.com> wrote: > Where can I find a blank 1940 census sheet? > > -- > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

Where can I find a blank 1940 census sheet? -- Diane

Pointers in Person has a lot of info on Chicago, especially churches and what ethnicity they were along with the addresses.  Ann Moro POINTers In Person Chicago-North Chapter #27 Home Page PLEASE VISIT DAN NIEMIEC’S ITALIAN GENEALOGY COLUMN AT THE FRA NOI WEB SITE. Welcome friends and fellow Italian genealogists! POINTers in Person (PIP) is ...www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~itappcnc/index.htm - Cached --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Michael John Neill <mjnrootdig@gmail.com> wrote: From: Michael John Neill <mjnrootdig@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Church? To: "Eliz Hanebury" <elizhgene@gmail.com> Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 2:34 PM Another trick I sometimes use is to google the name of the minister and "chicago" or the street address if I can't read the name of the church. Michael ------------------- Michael John Neill Genealogy Tip of the Day http://genealogytipoftheday.blogspot.com On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought it ended in "us", but it sure could be Brendan <G>: oh I > have to open my mind when it comes to writing. > > > Eliz > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Kim Broekhuizen <kelger@umich.edu> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the > > bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my > > relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue > > my research. > > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ------------------------------------ Michael John Neill Casefile Clues-Genealogy How-Tos http://www.casefileclues.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought it ended in "us", but it sure could be Brendan <G>: oh I have to open my mind when it comes to writing. Eliz On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Kim Broekhuizen <kelger@umich.edu> wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the > bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my > relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue > my research. > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 > > Thanks! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue my research. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 Thanks!

I am still voting for archives.gov thru stevemorse.org <G> images load fast and are good quality <G> Eliz On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Joseph Martin <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> wrote: > Go to MyHeritage.com > > They have all the images online. > > Ancestry is trailing at this point. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:41 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > >> Have noticed a very nice feature of the 1940 census, in that it shows the >> number of years of education a person had. For those with immigrant >> ancestors, that gives some insight into life in the "old country." Two of >> my Irish grandparents said they had 8 years, the other two only 4 and 3. >> All were born in the 1870s, emigrated in the 1890s. >> >> Diane >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do it thru stevemorse.org it is lots easier and archives.gov is working (yesterday) great for me. Eliz On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Diane Miskiewicz <bitsyba@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it me or does Ancestry not have Illinois up and running as of yet. I > cannot click on it to get anything I have to go to the National archives > website. > > Please let me know if I'm doing something or not doing something. > > Thanks > Diane > Elgin IL > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:01 AM, <cook-co-il-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> When replying to a digest message, please change the subject line to match >> the post you are replying to and remove all other posts. Please do not send >> the entire digest back to the list! >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>   1. 1940 Census maps (Florence Leone) >>   2. 1940 Census (Alice Fluegge) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:36:44 -0500 >> From: Florence Leone <fjl51@sbcglobal.net> >> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1940 Census maps >> To: Cook County Mailing List <COOK-CO-IL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <4F7C86AC.5090209@sbcglobal.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Don't forget Alookatcook.com >> >> They have fabulous maps up for the 1940 census. Much easier than the >> others! >> >> Flo >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Alice Fluegge <alicelinzy@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1940 Census >> To: cook county list <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >>        <1333598094.46987.YahooMailNeo@web112504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Just a tip using http://stevemorse.org/ ed finder and a WWII draft record >> I found my first person from the 1940 census in Chicago.? Thanks for the >> earlier tip about a look at cook and stevemorse.org and I just wanted to >> add that extra tool item.? Alice Fluegge >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the COOK-CO-IL list administrator, send an email to >> COOK-CO-IL-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to >> COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 56 >> ***************************************** >> > > > > -- > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another trick I sometimes use is to google the name of the minister and "chicago" or the street address if I can't read the name of the church. Michael ------------------- Michael John Neill Genealogy Tip of the Day http://genealogytipoftheday.blogspot.com On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought it ended in "us", but it sure could be Brendan <G>: oh I > have to open my mind when it comes to writing. > > > Eliz > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Kim Broekhuizen <kelger@umich.edu> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the > > bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my > > relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue > > my research. > > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ------------------------------------ Michael John Neill Casefile Clues-Genealogy How-Tos http://www.casefileclues.com

Kim, The name of the church appears to be St. Brendan which was located at 67th Street and Racine Avenue. St. Brendan was closed and merged in September 1988 with St. Bernard Parish. All records are at the Archdiocese of Chicago Archives & Records Center, 711 West Monroe Street, Chicago, Illinois 60661. Telephone: (312) 831-0711. Since you are familiar with the digital images at familysearch.org, go to the database: Illinois, Chicago, Catholic Church Records, 1833-1925. This is a browsable (not indexed as yet) database. In the window with the list of all the United States databases, scroll down to the Illinois, Chicago, Catholic Church Records, 1833-1925 hyperlink and click on that. Another window will open with a hyperlink that says something about Browse This Database. Click on that hyperlink. Another window will open up which gives you a listing of all the churches in this database. Scroll down to St. Brendan and click on that hyperlink. Another window will open with a list of the various records that are available. Click on a hyperlink to open the list of Baptisms or other sacramental records and start clicking through the images until you find something of interest. It is like using a microfilm reader without the microfilm. Thomas Mackowiak MACKOWIAK/SERWATKIEWICZ/JANUSZEWSKI/WANATOWICZ/MROZ/MUNO/HARNEY/GLENNON/McKA Y/LESCZYNSKI/ORLIKOWSKI -----Original Message----- From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kim Broekhuizen Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 1:49 PM To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Church? Hi, Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue my research. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 Thanks!

Hi Kim, Try this one. It was located on South Racine. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois ST BRENDAN Ethnic Origin - Irish Date of Origin -1889 Located at 67th and Racine Neighborhood - ENGLEWOOD Church merged with St Bernard in 1988, which merged with St. Benedict the African-East. Records at Archives. Records 1891-1916 have been filmed by the LDS Item 7: Baptisms 1891-1915 - Film # 1579730 Items 1-3: baptisms 1891-1916(includes full-name indexes) - Film # 1602781 Item 4: marriages (includes full-name index) 1891-1915, Item 5: confirmations 1906-1909 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Kim Broekhuizen <kelger@umich.edu> wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the > bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my > relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue > my research. > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 > > Thanks! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

That would be St. Brendan's Church - 6714 S. Racine   Ruth "The life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living." - Cicero   ________________________________ From: Kim Broekhuizen <kelger@umich.edu> To: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Church? Hi, Can someone help me read the name of the church referenced at the  bottom of this document? I'm hoping it might lead me to the church my  relatives attended. I'm hoping church records might help me continue  my research. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11869-76055-30?cc=1463145 Thanks! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have noticed a very nice feature of the 1940 census, in that it shows the number of years of education a person had. For those with immigrant ancestors, that gives some insight into life in the "old country." Two of my Irish grandparents said they had 8 years, the other two only 4 and 3. All were born in the 1870s, emigrated in the 1890s. Diane

Go to MyHeritage.com They have all the images online. Ancestry is trailing at this point. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:41 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > Have noticed a very nice feature of the 1940 census, in that it shows the > number of years of education a person had. For those with immigrant > ancestors, that gives some insight into life in the "old country." Two of > my Irish grandparents said they had 8 years, the other two only 4 and 3. > All were born in the 1870s, emigrated in the 1890s. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

Is it me or does Ancestry not have Illinois up and running as of yet. I cannot click on it to get anything I have to go to the National archives website. Please let me know if I'm doing something or not doing something. Thanks Diane Elgin IL On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:01 AM, <cook-co-il-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > When replying to a digest message, please change the subject line to match > the post you are replying to and remove all other posts. Please do not send > the entire digest back to the list! > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1940 Census maps (Florence Leone) > 2. 1940 Census (Alice Fluegge) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:36:44 -0500 > From: Florence Leone <fjl51@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1940 Census maps > To: Cook County Mailing List <COOK-CO-IL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4F7C86AC.5090209@sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Don't forget Alookatcook.com > > They have fabulous maps up for the 1940 census. Much easier than the > others! > > Flo > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Alice Fluegge <alicelinzy@yahoo.com> > Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] 1940 Census > To: cook county list <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1333598094.46987.YahooMailNeo@web112504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Just a tip using http://stevemorse.org/ ed finder and a WWII draft record > I found my first person from the 1940 census in Chicago.? Thanks for the > earlier tip about a look at cook and stevemorse.org and I just wanted to > add that extra tool item.? Alice Fluegge > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COOK-CO-IL list administrator, send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to > COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 7, Issue 56 > ***************************************** > -- Diane

Just a tip using http://stevemorse.org/ ed finder and a WWII draft record I found my first person from the 1940 census in Chicago.  Thanks for the earlier tip about a look at cook and stevemorse.org and I just wanted to add that extra tool item.  Alice Fluegge

Don't forget Alookatcook.com They have fabulous maps up for the 1940 census. Much easier than the others! Flo