I'm trying to locate information and/or an obituary for: Joseph Vrba, born May, 1898, son of Marten and Mary Vrba, possibly married to Sophie Kolodzey in 1918, died July, 1973. Also a Louis Vrba, 30 years old in the 1910 Census, and likely the step-father of Joseph, found a draft registration card for Joseph above with Louis mentioned but otherwise the trail goes cold. Any help/direction would be most appreciated. By the way, this is a great list, thanks to all. Sue.

I wonder if some kind soul could help me find a marriage. My gt gt uncle, David John Rowlands, married Laura (maiden name unknown), possibly in Cook County in 1891. They both originally came from Caernarvonshire in Wales, he emigrated to the US in 1886. Eventually they went to live in Redgranite, Wisconsin and they appear on the census there in 1920, 1930 and 1940.   His father's name was  John Rowlands.   Do you need more information?   Many thanks   Eirian Evans

Eirian, He married Laura Williams on 24 Dec 1891 in Cook County, IL. You can view the marriage record on FamilySearch.com. Robert Evensen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eirian Evans" <eirianevans@yahoo.com> To: <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:43 AM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Rowlands marriage I wonder if some kind soul could help me find a marriage. My gt gt uncle, David John Rowlands, married Laura (maiden name unknown), possibly in Cook County in 1891. They both originally came from Caernarvonshire in Wales, he emigrated to the US in 1886. Eventually they went to live in Redgranite, Wisconsin and they appear on the census there in 1920, 1930 and 1940. His father's name was John Rowlands. Do you need more information? Many thanks Eirian Evans ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've received helpful information on HRYHORIJ and PARASKEVIA, but the jury is still out on HRYC, so I'll check out the resources you provided.   The family was from the village of Lubno in far SE Poland (Sub-Carpathian region), very close to the current border with Ukraine, and the family spoke both languages.   The rest of my family branches are from the far North Central part of Poland, including some Kashube near Gdansk, and spoke Polish and German.   Several of the given names in the branch I'm currently researching, really stand out as because of the Ukrainian/Russian proximity and the history of Poland's Partitions.  It is new and unfamiliar territory to me...but I'm learning.   Thanks for your help. Ruth   ________________________________ From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> To: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> Cc: Cook County <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names On 4/30/12, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> wrote: > ...Anyone out there have knowledge of > Ukrainian given names that can help with the following?  Google just isn't > doing it... > > Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE? > > Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE? > > Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ? HRYC sure looks to me like it would get transliterated to Horace, but that is just a guess from eyeballing the name. There is a very low traffic Ukraine list you could try posting at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/UKR/UKR-GENSEARCH.html Also,  the Poland Roots Mailing list  has name experts sometimes answering questions and if your family was from  within Poland at some point (I am not sure from your post), you might get some very interesting responses there.  It is a very friendly list: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/POL/POLAND-ROOTS.html

On 4/30/12, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> wrote: > ...Anyone out there have knowledge of > Ukrainian given names that can help with the following? Google just isn't > doing it... > > Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE? > > Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE? > > Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ? HRYC sure looks to me like it would get transliterated to Horace, but that is just a guess from eyeballing the name. There is a very low traffic Ukraine list you could try posting at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/UKR/UKR-GENSEARCH.html Also, the Poland Roots Mailing list has name experts sometimes answering questions and if your family was from within Poland at some point (I am not sure from your post), you might get some very interesting responses there. It is a very friendly list: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/POL/POLAND-ROOTS.html

I have received my late father's WW2 Army records from St Louis in 2009 and I was not charged for them at all. David Annenberg New York City USA www.davidandcarole.info -----Original Message----- From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pattie Gmail Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:39 PM To: Lisa Lepore Cc: COOK-CO-IL Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records I am curious, if this was written as if your dad was requesting it would they send it to him for free? Pattie Schultz On May 3, 2012, at 1:07 PM, "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > > > That's great. Thanks for letting us know how this turned out. I > didn't know about the 62 years. I hope there is a lot of information > there > > for you. I don't think the Navy Records were involved in the fire. > > > > Lisa > > > > > > From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:16 PM > To: Lisa Lepore > Cc: COOK-CO-IL > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > > > > To Lisa and others who were part of this earlier discussion, > > Today I received a letter from the National Personnel Records Center in St. > Louis regarding my March 21 request for the World War II U.S. Navy > Records for my Dad. He is now 90 years old and suffers with Parkinson's disease. > > The letter stated that their personnel located my Dad's file. It > continued "Because the veteran was completely discharged from the > military more than > 62 years ago, the Official Military Personnel File is now considered > an 'archival' record." Thus, it is now a public record. I can request > photocopies of his file for ONLY $60. Interestingly, the return reply > envelope is addressed to NARA in St. Louis, which means the files have > been moved. > > I have already found 28 U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls > (1938-1949) for him on Ancestry. I hope that his file will have some > additional records with many more details for my $60. > > Wish me luck. My check is in the mail. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > > > As his son, you are entitled to receive the information I'm sure. > > > > Did your dad talk about the war and his service? So many people never did. > > > > My grandmother has 2 brothers who served in the Army. One in WWI and > the other in WWII. I plan > > on sending for their records, and hopefully I can get them. I don't > think my grandmother is too interested, > > so I never asked her to sign for them, but if my request is rejected, > I guess I'll have to. > > > > My grandfather had some health issues so he never served in the > military, but he worked as a civilian > > electrician on the air base in Roswell, New Mexico. I would like to > see if there are any records for him. > > > > I hope your information arrives soon, > > Lisa > > > > > > > > From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:50 PM > To: Lisa Lepore > > > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > > > > Thank you, Lisa. > > I printed a form and mailed it to St. Louis. My Dad was in the Navy, > so his records should be there. Problem is that he is now 90 years old > and lives with Parkinson's. He has not read anything for years, and he > cannot write. I explained that in a cover letter and sent along both > my birth and baptism records as evidence that I am his son. > > Will wait to see what happens. > > Joseph > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > I'm sure you can get the records as next of kin, but if you or someone > else has power of attorney for your dad, or if he is able to sign for > himself, you might be better off having him sign the request. > > I say this because there could be records that are covered by privacy > laws like health related things that could be released to him, but not > to you. > > Lisa > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:10 PM >> To: Nancy Loe >> Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records >> > >> Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? >> >> My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's >> in Houston. >> >> May I obtain his records as next of kin? >> >> Joseph Martin >> Romeoville, Illinois >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the >>> Army a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I >>> tried again in an online request in the name of my husband as next >>> of kin and got about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took >>> about 10 weeks because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. >>> Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost >>> $60, >> same as an IDPF. >>> >>> At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said >>> you may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in >>> person to the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I >>> have not used her >>> personally: >>> >>> *Redbird Research* >>> 3 Sandbar Ct >>> St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 >>> *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 <tel:%28636%29%20448-3275> >>> *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 <tel:%28636%29%20447-5154> >>> *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net >>> *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller *Research Specialty: * Persons >>> of prominence files, archival military records, current military >>> records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning reports and rosters, >>> cemeteries. >>> >>> Nancy >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following >>>> service >>>> branches: >>>> >>>> ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost >>>> >>>> AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost >>>> >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." 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I am curious, if this was written as if your dad was requesting it would they send it to him for free? Pattie Schultz On May 3, 2012, at 1:07 PM, "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > > > That's great. Thanks for letting us know how this turned out. I didn't > know about the 62 years. I hope there is a lot of information there > > for you. I don't think the Navy Records were involved in the fire. > > > > Lisa > > > > > > From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:16 PM > To: Lisa Lepore > Cc: COOK-CO-IL > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > > > > To Lisa and others who were part of this earlier discussion, > > Today I received a letter from the National Personnel Records Center in St. > Louis regarding my March 21 request for the World War II U.S. Navy Records > for my Dad. He is now 90 years old and suffers with Parkinson's disease. > > The letter stated that their personnel located my Dad's file. It continued > "Because the veteran was completely discharged from the military more than > 62 years ago, the Official Military Personnel File is now considered an > 'archival' record." Thus, it is now a public record. I can request > photocopies of his file for ONLY $60. Interestingly, the return reply > envelope is addressed to NARA in St. Louis, which means the files have been > moved. > > I have already found 28 U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls (1938-1949) for > him on Ancestry. I hope that his file will have some additional records with > many more details for my $60. > > Wish me luck. My check is in the mail. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > > > As his son, you are entitled to receive the information I'm sure. > > > > Did your dad talk about the war and his service? So many people never did. > > > > My grandmother has 2 brothers who served in the Army. One in WWI and the > other in WWII. I plan > > on sending for their records, and hopefully I can get them. I don't think > my grandmother is too interested, > > so I never asked her to sign for them, but if my request is rejected, I > guess I'll have to. > > > > My grandfather had some health issues so he never served in the military, > but he worked as a civilian > > electrician on the air base in Roswell, New Mexico. I would like to see if > there are any records for him. > > > > I hope your information arrives soon, > > Lisa > > > > > > > > From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:50 PM > To: Lisa Lepore > > > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > > > > Thank you, Lisa. > > I printed a form and mailed it to St. Louis. My Dad was in the Navy, so his > records should be there. Problem is that he is now 90 years old and lives > with Parkinson's. He has not read anything for years, and he cannot write. I > explained that in a cover letter and sent along both my birth and baptism > records as evidence that I am his son. > > Will wait to see what happens. > > Joseph > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > I'm sure you can get the records as next of kin, but if you or > someone else has power of attorney for your dad, or if he is able to > sign for himself, you might be better off having him sign the request. > > I say this because there could be records that are covered by privacy laws > like > health related things that could be released to him, but not to you. > > Lisa > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:10 PM >> To: Nancy Loe >> Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records >> > >> Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? >> >> My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in >> Houston. >> >> May I obtain his records as next of kin? >> >> Joseph Martin >> Romeoville, Illinois >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army >>> a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again >>> in an online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got >>> about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks >>> because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. >>> Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost $60, >> same as an IDPF. >>> >>> At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you >>> may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to >>> the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used >>> her >>> personally: >>> >>> *Redbird Research* >>> 3 Sandbar Ct >>> St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 >>> *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 <tel:%28636%29%20448-3275> >>> *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 <tel:%28636%29%20447-5154> >>> *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net >>> *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller >>> *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military >>> records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning >>> reports and rosters, cemeteries. >>> >>> Nancy >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following >>>> service >>>> branches: >>>> >>>> ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost >>>> >>>> AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost >>>> >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec >> Prayer) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec Prayer) > > > > > > > > > > -- > The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joseph, That's great. Thanks for letting us know how this turned out. I didn't know about the 62 years. I hope there is a lot of information there for you. I don't think the Navy Records were involved in the fire. Lisa From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:16 PM To: Lisa Lepore Cc: COOK-CO-IL Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records To Lisa and others who were part of this earlier discussion, Today I received a letter from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis regarding my March 21 request for the World War II U.S. Navy Records for my Dad. He is now 90 years old and suffers with Parkinson's disease. The letter stated that their personnel located my Dad's file. It continued "Because the veteran was completely discharged from the military more than 62 years ago, the Official Military Personnel File is now considered an 'archival' record." Thus, it is now a public record. I can request photocopies of his file for ONLY $60. Interestingly, the return reply envelope is addressed to NARA in St. Louis, which means the files have been moved. I have already found 28 U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls (1938-1949) for him on Ancestry. I hope that his file will have some additional records with many more details for my $60. Wish me luck. My check is in the mail. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Joseph, As his son, you are entitled to receive the information I'm sure. Did your dad talk about the war and his service? So many people never did. My grandmother has 2 brothers who served in the Army. One in WWI and the other in WWII. I plan on sending for their records, and hopefully I can get them. I don't think my grandmother is too interested, so I never asked her to sign for them, but if my request is rejected, I guess I'll have to. My grandfather had some health issues so he never served in the military, but he worked as a civilian electrician on the air base in Roswell, New Mexico. I would like to see if there are any records for him. I hope your information arrives soon, Lisa From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:50 PM To: Lisa Lepore Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records Thank you, Lisa. I printed a form and mailed it to St. Louis. My Dad was in the Navy, so his records should be there. Problem is that he is now 90 years old and lives with Parkinson's. He has not read anything for years, and he cannot write. I explained that in a cover letter and sent along both my birth and baptism records as evidence that I am his son. Will wait to see what happens. Joseph On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Joseph, I'm sure you can get the records as next of kin, but if you or someone else has power of attorney for your dad, or if he is able to sign for himself, you might be better off having him sign the request. I say this because there could be records that are covered by privacy laws like health related things that could be released to him, but not to you. Lisa > -----Original Message----- > From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:10 PM > To: Nancy Loe > Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > > Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? > > My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in > Houston. > > May I obtain his records as next of kin? > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army > > a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again > > in an online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got > > about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks > > because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. > > Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost $60, > same as an IDPF. > > > > At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you > > may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to > > the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used > > her > > personally: > > > > *Redbird Research* > > 3 Sandbar Ct > > St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 > > *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 <tel:%28636%29%20448-3275> > > *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 <tel:%28636%29%20447-5154> > > *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net > > *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller > > *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military > > records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning > > reports and rosters, cemeteries. > > > > Nancy > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following > > > service > > > branches: > > > > > > ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost > > > > > > AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost > > > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec > Prayer) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message -- "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec Prayer) -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

Thank you Debra. That is interesting and really narrows down when my Gt. Gt. Grandfather died in July of that year. I haven't previously noticed the census date on Familysearch and will look for it in the future. Many thanks again. Sheila. On 5/1/2012 18:04, Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes wrote: > On May 1, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Pentlands wrote: > >> Hello listers >> >> Can someone please tell me the date on which the census was taken in 1865? >> >> My Gt. Gt. Grandfather George Barnsfather died in July 1865 but I cannot >> find him on the census for that year. >> His wife is there as Mrs. M Barnsfather, with the children. >> >> In GB our census is taken in the spring. > According to Familysearch.org it was taken 3 July 1865: > > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1803971 > > Best, > D.L. MacLaughlan-Dumes > http://sakionline.net/familypage > Researching Petersen, Mikkelsen, MacLaughlan, and Jatho in Cook County > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers Can someone please tell me the date on which the census was taken in 1865? My Gt. Gt. Grandfather George Barnsfather died in July 1865 but I cannot find him on the census for that year. His wife is there as Mrs. M Barnsfather, with the children. In GB our census is taken in the spring. Thank you for any assistance. Sheila.

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On May 1, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Pentlands wrote: > Hello listers > > Can someone please tell me the date on which the census was taken in 1865? > > My Gt. Gt. Grandfather George Barnsfather died in July 1865 but I cannot > find him on the census for that year. > His wife is there as Mrs. M Barnsfather, with the children. > > In GB our census is taken in the spring. According to Familysearch.org it was taken 3 July 1865: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1803971 Best, D.L. MacLaughlan-Dumes http://sakionline.net/familypage Researching Petersen, Mikkelsen, MacLaughlan, and Jatho in Cook County

Found this site by Googling. Your names are there. http://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/ukrainian That said, an individual could call themselves anything they wanted to. My Polish ancestor baptised Pelagia went by Polly and then Pauline in America. Good Luck, Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Susmarski" <rususmar@yahoo.com> To: "Cook County" <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names This is not Cook County related, exactly, although many members of this family branch did settle in Chicago. Anyone out there have knowledge of Ukrainian given names that can help with the following? Google just isn't doing it... Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE? Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE? Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ? Really struggling with my paternal grandmother's family from the far SE (Sub-Carpathia) region of Poland. Because of a long history of border changes, this area has a very strong Ukrainian influence. Thanks, Ruth

Thanks, Bobbi.   I'm still laughing.  I, too, had a Pelagia in the family, and she first went by Pearl and then later by Bessie.   Ruth   ________________________________ From: Raven Fan <tm5173@comcast.net> To: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com>; Cook County <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names Found this site by Googling.  Your names are there. http://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/ukrainian That said, an individual could call themselves anything they wanted to.  My Polish ancestor baptised Pelagia went by Polly and then Pauline in America. Good Luck, Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Susmarski" <rususmar@yahoo.com> To: "Cook County" <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names This is not Cook County related, exactly, although many members of this family branch did settle in Chicago. Anyone out there have knowledge of Ukrainian given names that can help with the following? Google just isn't doing it... Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE? Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE? Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ? Really struggling with my paternal grandmother's family from the far SE (Sub-Carpathia) region of Poland. Because of a long history of border changes, this area has a very strong Ukrainian influence. Thanks, Ruth

Thanks, Ann.  Been there, done that.  Got an answer to one of my three questions.  Wikipedia is a helpful tool, but I prefer to seek out more reliable sources.   Ruth   ________________________________ From: Ann Moro <grandmachick33@yahoo.com> To: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com>; Cook County <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names Try Wikipedia  Ann Moro ________________________________ From: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> To: Cook County <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 2:34:08 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names This is not Cook County related, exactly, although many members of this family branch did settle in Chicago.  Anyone out there have knowledge of Ukrainian given names that can help with the following?  Google just isn't doing it...   Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE?   Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE?   Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ?   Really struggling with my paternal grandmother's family from the far SE (Sub-Carpathia) region of Poland.  Because of a long history of border changes, this area has a very strong Ukrainian influence.   Thanks, Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try Wikipedia Ann Moro ________________________________ From: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> To: Cook County <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 2:34:08 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Ukrainian given names This is not Cook County related, exactly, although many members of this family branch did settle in Chicago. Anyone out there have knowledge of Ukrainian given names that can help with the following? Google just isn't doing it... Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE? Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE? Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ? Really struggling with my paternal grandmother's family from the far SE (Sub-Carpathia) region of Poland. Because of a long history of border changes, this area has a very strong Ukrainian influence. Thanks, Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Lisa and others who were part of this earlier discussion, Today I received a letter from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis regarding my March 21 request for the World War II U.S. Navy Records for my Dad. He is now 90 years old and suffers with Parkinson's disease. The letter stated that their personnel located my Dad's file. It continued "Because the veteran was completely discharged from the military more than 62 years ago, the Official Military Personnel File is now considered an 'archival' record." Thus, it is now a public record. I can request photocopies of his file for ONLY $60. Interestingly, the return reply envelope is addressed to NARA in St. Louis, which means the files have been moved. I have already found 28 U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls (1938-1949) for him on Ancestry. I hope that his file will have some additional records with many more details for my $60. Wish me luck. My check is in the mail. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Joseph, **** > > ** ** > > As his son, you are entitled to receive the information I’m sure. **** > > ** ** > > Did your dad talk about the war and his service? So many people never did. > **** > > ** ** > > My grandmother has 2 brothers who served in the Army. One in WWI and the > other in WWII. I plan**** > > on sending for their records, and hopefully I can get them. I don’t think > my grandmother is too interested, **** > > so I never asked her to sign for them, but if my request is rejected, I > guess I’ll have to. **** > > ** ** > > My grandfather had some health issues so he never served in the military, > but he worked as a civilian**** > > electrician on the air base in Roswell, New Mexico. I would like to see > if there are any records for him.**** > > ** ** > > I hope your information arrives soon,**** > > Lisa**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:50 PM > *To:* Lisa Lepore > > *Subject:* Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records**** > > ** ** > > Thank you, Lisa. > > I printed a form and mailed it to St. Louis. My Dad was in the Navy, so > his records should be there. Problem is that he is now 90 years old and > lives with Parkinson's. He has not read anything for years, and he cannot > write. I explained that in a cover letter and sent along both my birth and > baptism records as evidence that I am his son. > > Will wait to see what happens. > > Joseph > > > > > **** > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> wrote: > **** > > Hi Joseph, > > I'm sure you can get the records as next of kin, but if you or > someone else has power of attorney for your dad, or if he is able to > sign for himself, you might be better off having him sign the request. > > I say this because there could be records that are covered by privacy laws > like > health related things that could be released to him, but not to you. > > Lisa**** > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il- > > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:10 PM > > To: Nancy Loe > > Cc: COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Form 86 Military Service Records > >**** > > > Does anyone know if WWII Navy records are available? > > > > My Dad was in the Navy, and he is now 90 and living with Parkinson's in > > Houston. > > > > May I obtain his records as next of kin? > > > > Joseph Martin > > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Nancy Loe <geni.list@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I also asked for my father-in-law's records for 1944-1946 for the Army > > > a few years ago and was told they were lost in the fire. I tried again > > > in an online request in the name of my husband as next of kin and got > > > about 35 pages of records a few weeks ago. It took about 10 weeks > > > because NARA had to stabilize the files before they could copy them. > > > Some of the records have clear burn marks around the edges. It cost > $60, > > same as an IDPF. > > > > > > At a local society meeting on WWII records, the speaker also said you > > > may get better results hiring someone in St. Louis to go in person to > > > the archives. He mentioned this person as reliable but I have not used > > > her > > > personally: > > > > > > *Redbird Research* > > > 3 Sandbar Ct > > > St. Louis, MO 63303-6065 > > > *Telephone: * (636) 448-3275 > > > *Fax: * (636) 447-5154 > > > *E-mail: * redbirdresearch@att.net > > > *Contact Person: * Lori Berdak Miller > > > *Research Specialty: * Persons of prominence files, archival military > > > records, current military records located at NPRC - 201 Files, morning > > > reports and rosters, cemeteries. > > > > > > Nancy > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Linda, the records lost in the 1973 fire were for the following > > > > service > > > > branches: > > > > > > > > ARMY - from November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 - 80% lost > > > > > > > > AIR FORCE - from September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964 - 75% lost > > > > > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec > > Prayer) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message**** > > > > > -- > "Only for so short a while, you've loaned us to each other." (Aztec > Prayer) **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > -- The poverty of the poor inconveniences all of us.

This is not Cook County related, exactly, although many members of this family branch did settle in Chicago.  Anyone out there have knowledge of Ukrainian given names that can help with the following?  Google just isn't doing it...   Could HRYHORIJ translate to GEORGE?   Could PARASKEVIA translate to PAULINE?   Also, is HRYC a short form of HRYHORIJ?   Really struggling with my paternal grandmother's family from the far SE (Sub-Carpathia) region of Poland.  Because of a long history of border changes, this area has a very strong Ukrainian influence.   Thanks, Ruth

Thank you Dan and Diane for your help in solving my query about Hastings and Halstad Streets. The map was great. I bookmarked it. Pat Spears 678-404-5862 (home phone) spearspat.blogspot.com (my genealogy blog)

Check out street name changes on this site: http://www.chicagoancestors.org/#tab-tools Diane -----Original Message----- From: Pat Spears <spearspat@hotmail.com> To: cook-co-il <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 3:29 pm Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Hastings at Halstad Does anyone on the list have access to a street map of Chicago in the 1870's? My great, great grandparents, John Carney and Mary Duffy, had a son, Patrick William Kearney, who died at age 3 in 1879. The death certificate lists the address as N.E. Corner of Halstad at Hastings. When I look at today's map, I see that Hastings Street doesn't connect with Halstad. Pat Pat Spears 678-404-5862 (home phone) spearspat.blogspot.com (my genealogy blog) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message