Hi Karen; Will any of these help? Cheers, Masugu 1945-12-09 Chicago Tribune (IL) RAFTER Edition: Chicago Tribune Nora Rafter, nee Gibbons, late of 3258 Harrison street, beloved wife of the late Michael, fond mother of T/Sgt. John, U. S. A., Michael, and Patrick, dear sister of Michael, Katherine of Cleveland, O., Bridget Dever, and the late Mary Gilmore, and Ellen of Cleveland, O. Funeral Monday at 9:30 a.m. from funeral home, 4245 Madison street, to Our Lady of Sorrows church. Interment Mount Carmel. Native of Tourmakeady. County Mayo, Ireland. Copyright 1945, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19451209dn145 1949-09-22 Chicago Tribune (IL) GIBBONS Edition: Chicago Tribune Loretta McGlynn Gibbons, beloved wife of the late Augustine Gibbons, loving mother of Mrs. Thelma Dunn, Mrs. Veronica Elliott, Mrs. Marguerite Bentley, Mrs. Genevieve Brennan, and the late Mrs. Anna May Termeulen. Funeral Friday, 9 a.m., from funeral home, Halsted at 76th street, to Little Flower church. Interment Holy Sepulchre cemetery. STewart 3-7700. Copyright 1949, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19490922dn018 1973-02-15 Chicago Tribune (IL) Gibbons Edition: Chicago Tribune Loretta Gibbons, daughter of the late Patrick and Mary Barker Gibbons; sister of Jessie Heinz and the late Nell Harridge and Florence Gibbons. Funeral Friday, 9 a.m. from the Rowland Home for Funerals, 4152 Sheridan Rd., to St. Mary of the Lake Church. Mass 9:30 a.m. Interment Calvary. Visitation from 7 to 9 p.m. Thursday. 248-1536. Copyright 1973, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19730215dn047

Access the historic Chicago Tribune at no cost here: http://tinyurl.com/9yoed Joseph Martin Romeoville, Il -----Original Message----- From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of An Archivist Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:15 AM To: Christi Riley Cc: cook-co-il@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Chicago Tribune Hi Christi, You do not have to buy a whole subscription to get access to the archives, You can purchase smaller access rights for small fees. I have used the $12.95 one and located a few articles that never showed in the free access search, it was well worth the small print fee they charged. The charges are based on the article you decide to view in full, and you can print from that page to have a copy. There is no charge to get a small snip of any article to see if it is relevant to your search. Chicago Tribune Week Pass (15 Articles) $12.95 Chicago Tribune 24-Hour Pass (5 Articles) $9.95 Chicago Tribune Document Purchase $3.95 If you want to try this go here http://www.chicagotribune.com/ and click on this link at the bottom of the page Archives: 1852-present<http://www.chicagotribune.com/archives/> type in your search, you then decide to view the free snip or the pay full article. If you chose the dollar sign, that is when you purchase as many articles as you want to buy. I really enjoy these options and find it is well worth the few dollars they ask for. Sincerely, Kyanne On 12/10/06, Christi Riley <pncriley@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > So is there not an access to the tribune without the subscription? The > project on Ancestry.com is such a waste. It gives you a lot of pages > seemly with your request, but the only thing on the page are either words > spelled wrong or the search name in the header and not in the article. > > > Christi > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I received an subscription to the Godfrey Memorial Library as a Christmas present. http://www.godfrey.org/ Many of the same newspapers that you can access from Ancestry, can be access at Godfrey. The papers come up in Adobe acrobat at Godfrey so once the page loads, you do not have to read the entire page to find the surname that you are looking for, just use Adobe's search tool and you have it in seconds. I have also found the search engine for the newspapers to be far more accurate than Ancestrys. A Godfrey library card is far less than an Ancestry subscription. I have had my subscription for about two weeks and have spent hours searching their obits. The Chicago Tribune Historical Archive is available along with older newspapers from the state and many of the current obits. Susan

Thanks for all who have responded on this matter. I now have several good suggestions to follow up after the holidays. Several that never occurred to me. Another case of 2 or 3 or more heads being better than one. I'll report any results back to the list later. It just occurred to me that the entire world be better off consisting of geneaologists or family historians, such as the helpful folks on these lists. Imagine how peaceful the world would be with everyone trying to help others. Lois Mack Schill

Hi Christi, You do not have to buy a whole subscription to get access to the archives, You can purchase smaller access rights for small fees. I have used the $12.95 one and located a few articles that never showed in the free access search, it was well worth the small print fee they charged. The charges are based on the article you decide to view in full, and you can print from that page to have a copy. There is no charge to get a small snip of any article to see if it is relevant to your search. Chicago Tribune Week Pass (15 Articles) $12.95 Chicago Tribune 24-Hour Pass (5 Articles) $9.95 Chicago Tribune Document Purchase $3.95 If you want to try this go here http://www.chicagotribune.com/ and click on this link at the bottom of the page Archives: 1852-present<http://www.chicagotribune.com/archives/> type in your search, you then decide to view the free snip or the pay full article. If you chose the dollar sign, that is when you purchase as many articles as you want to buy. I really enjoy these options and find it is well worth the few dollars they ask for. Sincerely, Kyanne On 12/10/06, Christi Riley <pncriley@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > So is there not an access to the tribune without the subscription? The > project on Ancestry.com is such a waste. It gives you a lot of pages > seemly with your request, but the only thing on the page are either words > spelled wrong or the search name in the header and not in the article. > > > Christi > >

So is there not an access to the tribune without the subscription? The project on Ancestry.com is such a waste. It gives you a lot of pages seemly with your request, but the only thing on the page are either words spelled wrong or the search name in the header and not in the article. Christi

The problem with women is they change their names at marriage. I had a childhood friend Donna Ray Williams and would love to connect With her again. She lived in Norwood Park. If anyone knows of her, Please contact me or have her contact me. She would be in her 70's. AnnEllen Barr ellen@BarrFinancial.com.

Hi Karen, The IL Death Index is on-line [free], and shows that 4 Nora Gibbons died [from 1916 - 1950]. http://www.sos.state.il.us/GenealogyMWeb/idphdeathsrch.html Two of the 4 died in Chicago - one in 1929 and one in 1932. One died in 1935 in Peoria [aged 59]. The 4th one died in Lake Co., IL in 1929. There are 2 Loretta Gibbons in Chicago in 1930 [a third one is just 5 years old]. One [b. 1881] is the wife of Augustine Gibbons and one [b. 1893] is the daughter of Mary E. Gibbons [she b. Ohio]. This later one appears to be the same Loretta Gibbons in the 1920 Census as born abt 1888, daughter of Patrick A. [b. abt 1857 Ireland - Imm. 1871] and Mary E. Gibbons [b. abt 1862 Ohio]. The later Loretta Gibbons may be the same one shown in the SSDI as being born 18 June 1888, d. Feb 1973, Last Residence Chicago, IL. I still can not get into the Trib, but perhaps somebody else can look for an obit. This Loretta should have sisters Jessie and Florence. Hope this helps, Sharon B. On 10 Dec 2006 at 2:05, KarenKingHiatt wrote: My great-grandfather Michael Moran was an heir to Nora Gibbons, who died about 1935. I think in Cook County. Her will was probated in Chicago -- and Loretta Gibbons was the executrix. GG-Mike Moran's mother was a GIBBONS -- and his sisters are also named as heirs in the probate document (married names Halloran, Caine, Henderson, and Graf. His half-sister and half-brother (NOT Gibbons children) were NOT named. So I'm thinking that Nora Gibbons was a relative of GG-Moran's mother, who died at age 37, in 1872, in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, OH. We don't have enough information about GGGrandmother Maria Gibbons Moran to search in Ireland yet (no parish or townland listed on any documents here in Ohio -- but Grandma told me they came from Newport, County Mayo, Ireland) Maybe a death notice for Nora Gibbons -- or maybe a later one for Loretta Gibbons -- might give us some clues. Thanks for your help. I do some cemetery photographs in the Cleveland area -- once the snow melts! -- would be glad to help someone! Warm regards, Karen from COLD Rocky River, OH (suburb of Cleveland). ----- Original Message ----- From: "KarenKingHiatt" <KarenHiatt@kingfamily.com> To: <COOK-CO-IL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Chicago Probate Document -- ca 1935 -- Gibbons, Moran,Cain, Doherty, Gillman, Langan, Henderson, Elliott, Kellish,Smith, Halloran, Subject: Gibbons, Moran, Cain, Doherty, Gillman, Langan,Henderson, Elliott, Kellish, Smith, Halloran, Here's a transcription of a probate document I found after my Dad died in 2001 -- and it mentions all of the names above -- plus a couple that were hard to read. We have some of the OHIO connections -- looking for the Chicago connections. Is this of interest to anyone? ************** 1935(?) VERY FAINT photocopy of a page of a legal document - from the Probate of Nora Gibbons, deceased. (transcribed in 2002) State of Illinois County of Cook In the Probate Court of Cook County IN THE MATTER OF THE ESTATE OF NORA GIBBONS, Deceased Docket # 317 [might be 517] Page 101 [might be 161] File 176769 [176 might be 178 or 170; 769 might be 789 or 709] N O T I C E To: [First column] Thomas Gibbons Michel [sic] Moran John Cain Julia Cain Mary Gibbons O'Donnell Edward Doherty Mary Gibbons [D or W or ?]alton Gloria Gillman Anna Langan John Langan Nellie Gibbons [H or ?]arridge [Second Column] Mary Henderson Nora Moran Thomas Cain Margaret Cain Margaret Doherty Robert Doherty Anna Gibbons Elliott Gail Gillman George Langan Patrician Langan Loretta Gibbons [Third Column] Margaret Halloran Jennie Graf Owen J. Cain Frances Cain Kellish Donald Doherty Paul Doherty Florence Gibbons [F or ?]leisch Forest Smith Catherine Langan Louis Langen Jennie Gibbons Heinz [Typed across ALL THREE columns] Florence Gibbons, Legatees and heirs-at-law of Nora Gibbons, Deceased: You, and each of you, are hereby notified that by order of the Probate Court entered in the above Estate on March 27th, [possibly 1935 or 1939] , the undersigned Loretta Gibbons, Executrix of the Last Will and Testament of Nora Gibbons, deceased, will sell at public sale to be held at 1214-155 [or 165] N. Clark Street, Chicago, on Wednesday, the 1st Day of May, 1935, at the hour of 1 o'clock P.M., the following goods and chattels belonging to the Estate of amtd [presumably, "above-mentioned"] deceased, to wit: 1 promissory note dated April 8, 1925 [year is not clear] made by Bernard J. Kewin [or Kowin] and wife for $1,000.00 secured by real estate located at 4838 [could be 4939 or 4030 or ?] Forestville Avenue; 2 promissory notes dated August 10, 1929 for $500.00 each, made by John P. Schofield [name not clear, might be Sarofield, but there are Schofield's on the KING side of the family] and wife, due August 10, 1939, with interest of [unreadable single digit - might be 6, might be 0] % per annum, secured by trust deed on real estate at 9002 [0 might be 6] S. Oakley Avenue; 1 Gold [unreadable four digits] No. 190 on the Sumerdale [sic] Apartments for $500.00 due August 20, 193[?], with interest of [6 or 0] % per annum; 1 Certificate of Deposit No. 11???? For $1,000.00 at 6% per annum, issued by the Straus National Bank & Trust Company, dated February 1?th, 1922 [or 23 or ??] 8 shares of the common stock of the John ?. Thompson Company, No. ?? 7768, [page ends here - nothing else in the packet]. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great-grandfather Michael Moran was an heir to Nora Gibbons, who died about 1935. I think in Cook County. Her will was probated in Chicago -- and Loretta Gibbons was the executrix. GG-Mike Moran's mother was a GIBBONS -- and his sisters are also named as heirs in the probate document (married names Halloran, Caine, Henderson, and Graf. His half-sister and half-brother (NOT Gibbons children) were NOT named. So I'm thinking that Nora Gibbons was a relative of GG-Moran's mother, who died at age 37, in 1872, in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, OH. We don't have enough information about GGGrandmother Maria Gibbons Moran to search in Ireland yet (no parish or townland listed on any documents here in Ohio -- but Grandma told me they came from Newport, County Mayo, Ireland) Maybe a death notice for Nora Gibbons -- or maybe a later one for Loretta Gibbons -- might give us some clues. Thanks for your help. I do some cemetery photographs in the Cleveland area -- once the snow melts! -- would be glad to help someone! Warm regards, Karen from COLD Rocky River, OH (suburb of Cleveland). ----- Original Message ----- From: "KarenKingHiatt" <KarenHiatt@kingfamily.com> To: <COOK-CO-IL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Chicago Probate Document -- ca 1935 -- Gibbons, Moran,Cain, Doherty, Gillman, Langan, Henderson, Elliott, Kellish,Smith, Halloran, Subject: Gibbons, Moran, Cain, Doherty, Gillman, Langan,Henderson, Elliott, Kellish, Smith, Halloran, Here's a transcription of a probate document I found after my Dad died in 2001 -- and it mentions all of the names above -- plus a couple that were hard to read. We have some of the OHIO connections -- looking for the Chicago connections. Is this of interest to anyone? ************** 1935(?) VERY FAINT photocopy of a page of a legal document - from the Probate of Nora Gibbons, deceased. (transcribed in 2002) State of Illinois County of Cook In the Probate Court of Cook County IN THE MATTER OF THE ESTATE OF NORA GIBBONS, Deceased Docket # 317 [might be 517] Page 101 [might be 161] File 176769 [176 might be 178 or 170; 769 might be 789 or 709] N O T I C E To: [First column] Thomas Gibbons Michel [sic] Moran John Cain Julia Cain Mary Gibbons O'Donnell Edward Doherty Mary Gibbons [D or W or ?]alton Gloria Gillman Anna Langan John Langan Nellie Gibbons [H or ?]arridge [Second Column] Mary Henderson Nora Moran Thomas Cain Margaret Cain Margaret Doherty Robert Doherty Anna Gibbons Elliott Gail Gillman George Langan Patrician Langan Loretta Gibbons [Third Column] Margaret Halloran Jennie Graf Owen J. Cain Frances Cain Kellish Donald Doherty Paul Doherty Florence Gibbons [F or ?]leisch Forest Smith Catherine Langan Louis Langen Jennie Gibbons Heinz [Typed across ALL THREE columns] Florence Gibbons, Legatees and heirs-at-law of Nora Gibbons, Deceased: You, and each of you, are hereby notified that by order of the Probate Court entered in the above Estate on March 27th, [possibly 1935 or 1939] , the undersigned Loretta Gibbons, Executrix of the Last Will and Testament of Nora Gibbons, deceased, will sell at public sale to be held at 1214-155 [or 165] N. Clark Street, Chicago, on Wednesday, the 1st Day of May, 1935, at the hour of 1 o'clock P.M., the following goods and chattels belonging to the Estate of amtd [presumably, "above-mentioned"] deceased, to wit: 1 promissory note dated April 8, 1925 [year is not clear] made by Bernard J. Kewin [or Kowin] and wife for $1,000.00 secured by real estate located at 4838 [could be 4939 or 4030 or ?] Forestville Avenue; 2 promissory notes dated August 10, 1929 for $500.00 each, made by John P. Schofield [name not clear, might be Sarofield, but there are Schofield's on the KING side of the family] and wife, due August 10, 1939, with interest of [unreadable single digit - might be 6, might be 0] % per annum, secured by trust deed on real estate at 9002 [0 might be 6] S. Oakley Avenue; 1 Gold [unreadable four digits] No. 190 on the Sumerdale [sic] Apartments for $500.00 due August 20, 193[?], with interest of [6 or 0] % per annum; 1 Certificate of Deposit No. 11???? For $1,000.00 at 6% per annum, issued by the Straus National Bank & Trust Company, dated February 1?th, 1922 [or 23 or ??] 8 shares of the common stock of the John ?. Thompson Company, No. ?? 7768, [page ends here - nothing else in the packet]. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I searched the Trib archives through several different search engines and I searched the United Kingdom, but nothing. Susan

Cooksters, If anyone still has access to the Chicago Tribune (it now seems that I need a password), would they look up the obituary for Anna Maria Anderson, my great-great-grandmother, who died 23 Jan 1890. I thought that she had died in England but it looks like her daughter and son-in-law brought her to the U.S. in her later years. Jim Otton Lakewood, CO

I sent this information to Joe, here is the information from Cook County. The Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act (750 ILCS 5/214) states that common law marriages contracted in Illinois after June 30, 1905 are invalid. A common law marriage was traditionally when a man and a woman lived together and held themselves out to the world as husband and wife for a certain period of time (such as seven or 14 years), and the law of the state in which they resided recognized them as husband and wife despite the lack of the formal legalities of marriage. I know that it did exist because I had to look up a divorce once that was between common law spouses, and I am sure the date was after 1905. So there might have been some exceptions, like if the marriage was from out of state and recognized in that other state. Considering your grandparents died in 1914 it is quite possible they were married legally under the previous common law statue in Illinois. Alice Fluegge --- LoisMSchill@aol.com wrote: > > If anyone is able to answer this question, please do > so on the list. I have > one of those in my ancestry, too. In their wills, > my grandparents referred > to each other as common law spouse. My father said > they had told him they > registered as common law spouses. I've had no luck > finding where this might > have happened. They lived in Chicago, but did > travel to other states. In > fact, he died while they were on vacation in Florida > in 1914. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

http://198.173.15.34/?section=DDPage&DDPage=3500&displaytab=RECMAINTAINED Cook County Circuit Court Clerk, Domestic Relations Division Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Draus" <tjdraus@mhtc.net> To: <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] divorce records > Hello..I would like to request a divorce record for my wife's aunt who > lived > in Chicago and was divorced there circa 1905 - 1910. Is this something > that > I can track down or perhaps there is someone who does this for a fee. Can > you help me/..Tom > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In modern times, you would swear out an affidavit in front of a Notary Public that you were married as of a certain date. This affidavit could then be used to change your name on your social security card, drivers license, etc. A good place to look might be in deed records or wills. As far as noting it in your genealogy, just state the facts. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: <LoisMSchill@aol.com> To: <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Documenting a common law marriage > > If anyone is able to answer this question, please do so on the list. I > have > one of those in my ancestry, too. In their wills, my grandparents > referred > to each other as common law spouse. My father said they had told him > they > registered as common law spouses. I've had no luck finding where this > might > have happened. They lived in Chicago, but did travel to other states. > In > fact, he died while they were on vacation in Florida in 1914. > > Original message: > _MartinJo@lewisu.edu_ (mailto:MartinJo@lewisu.edu) writes: > Would anyone know how to document a common law marriage? My great aunt > Kathryn MARTIN was married in Pittsburgh, and her husband filed for > divorce. But > then he failed to show up for the court appearance, and so no divorce > decree > exists in the county file for them. > > She moved to Chicago about 1921 and met John RAAB about 1923, the year > after > he divorced his first wife. At some point John and Kathryn started a > common > law marriage. But how do I document that fact? > > I have a 1926 Chicago Tribune article about them in which John stated > that > they had been married for three years. I have photos of their tombstones > which > list them as husband and wife. I have her obituary which calls her the > beloved wife of John. But the Cook County Court House could find no > marriage > record for them from 1922 when he was divorced to 1953 when Kathryn died. > > Any ideas about how to document their marriage? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joseph Martin, Crown Point, Indiana was a popular location for couples to get married outside of Chicago. You may want to try a search of marriage records in this location. I'm not sure if this is in Lake County, Indiana or another county. Carol Janes

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Protestant Episcopal is still the proper name of the Episcopal Church, I do believe. The records would be at the individual parish, if it still exists; might be at the Episcopal church headquarters in Chicago otherwise. Realize that that's anywhere from three to fifteen months (you don't say which month) after the Chicago fire, so not sure at all how many were around then or had a usable building. The Cathedral was definitely around at that time. --pig On 12/7/06 21:18, "bldnj74@earthlink.net" <bldnj74@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hi List, > A friend has a marriage license from Chicago in 1872 which says they were > married in the P. E. Church by a pastor Johan/John H-----ings > the wrting is hard to read. > I am wondering if this is a Protestant Episcopal church, and if so how many > were around? Also where would records for this be. > I do not know that the couple lived there any lenght of time as the bride was > in Ogle county with her family in 1870 and then back there by 1880. > I am not sure why they married there. > thanks > Laurie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello..I would like to request a divorce record for my wife's aunt who lived in Chicago and was divorced there circa 1905 - 1910. Is this something that I can track down or perhaps there is someone who does this for a fee. Can you help me/..Tom

If anyone is able to answer this question, please do so on the list. I have one of those in my ancestry, too. In their wills, my grandparents referred to each other as common law spouse. My father said they had told him they registered as common law spouses. I've had no luck finding where this might have happened. They lived in Chicago, but did travel to other states. In fact, he died while they were on vacation in Florida in 1914. Original message: _MartinJo@lewisu.edu_ (mailto:MartinJo@lewisu.edu) writes: Would anyone know how to document a common law marriage? My great aunt Kathryn MARTIN was married in Pittsburgh, and her husband filed for divorce. But then he failed to show up for the court appearance, and so no divorce decree exists in the county file for them. She moved to Chicago about 1921 and met John RAAB about 1923, the year after he divorced his first wife. At some point John and Kathryn started a common law marriage. But how do I document that fact? I have a 1926 Chicago Tribune article about them in which John stated that they had been married for three years. I have photos of their tombstones which list them as husband and wife. I have her obituary which calls her the beloved wife of John. But the Cook County Court House could find no marriage record for them from 1922 when he was divorced to 1953 when Kathryn died. Any ideas about how to document their marriage?

Joseph Martin, Have you checked Chicago for a divorce for your Kathryn Martin? Possibly, after she met John Raab in Chicago, she might have decided to file for divorce in that city. About her marriage to Mr. Raab, is it possible that they were not married in Chicago and could have gone either out of the city or across the boarder into another state? Also, think about what brought her to Chicago from Pittsburgh. Undoubtedly she knew someone living there. If that "someone" was not living in the city of Chicago, check the area where that individual lived. I would be more inclined to put into any "source" area that you can't find their marriage rather then assume they are living as common law husband and wife. You also might check Illinois court records to see if that state even recognizes a common law marriage. Pat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:07:12 -0600 From: "Martin, Joseph" <MartinJo@lewisu.edu> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Documenting a common law marriage To: <COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <RET-iB679Vd43c66b7c3e94bbd5815de067e4e43f4-91C3269C1DC8D343A886B4C4B25138B B0267273A@A0MAIL01.lewisu.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Would anyone know how to document a common law marriage? My great aunt Kathryn MARTIN was married in Pittsburgh, and her husband filed for divorce. But then he failed to show up for the court appearance, and so no divorce decree exists in the county file for them. She moved to Chicago about 1921 and met John RAAB about 1923, the year after he divorced his first wife. At some point John and Kathryn started a common law marriage. But how do I document that fact? I have a 1926 Chicago Tribune article about them in which John stated that they had been married for three years. I have photos of their tombstones which list them as husband and wife. I have her obituary which calls her the beloved wife of John. But the Cook County Court House could find no marriage record for them from 1922 when he was divorced to 1953 when Kathryn died. Any ideas about how to document their marriage? Joseph Martin Romeoville, IL ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:48:11 -0600 From: "Martin, Joseph" <MartinJo@lewisu.edu> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Documenting a common law marriage To: <COOK-CO-IL-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <RET-iB6DmB1eea5a0cb854aced414285a1ec2ae309-91C3269C1DC8D343A886B4C4B25138B B0267274B@A0MAIL01.lewisu.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Would anyone know how to document a common law marriage? My great aunt Kathryn MARTIN was married in Pittsburgh, and her husband filed for divorce. But then he failed to show up for the court appearance, and so no divorce decree exists in the county file for them. She moved to Chicago about 1921 and met John RAAB about 1923, the year after he divorced his first wife. At some point John and Kathryn started a common law marriage. But how do I document that fact? I have a 1926 Chicago Tribune article about them in which John stated that they had been married for three years. I have photos of their tombstones which list them as husband and wife. I have her obituary which calls her the beloved wife of John. But the Cook County Court House could find no marriage record for them from 1922 when he was divorced to 1953 when Kathryn died. Any ideas about how to document their marriage? Joseph Martin Romeoville, IL ------------------------------ ------------------------------ To contact the COOK-CO-IL list administrator, send an email to COOK-CO-IL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the COOK-CO-IL mailing list, send an email to COOK-CO-IL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of COOK-CO-IL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 132 ******************************************