researchers, this is the 1st time I have run into this problem so this is new to me I was hoping to get more out of her than I will be able to I'll have to see what she says when she calls back and she said that might be tomorrow take care, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hansen" <phan_71@msn.com> To: <alley77532@peoplepc.com> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [COOK-CO-IL] Oak Lawn Cemetery/privacy issues > Why are there privacy issues when the people are deceased? That is > ridiculous, in my opinion. > > PH > > -----Original Message----- > From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > alley77532@peoplepc.com > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:45 AM > To: cook-co-il@rootsweb.com > Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Oak Lawn Cemetery/privacy issues > > researchers, > I called Oak Lawn Cemetery today > and they have privacy isssues > they will look up in the computer and tell me if my family is there but, > will give no details because of privacy issues > > take care, Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for clearing that up, Alice. It still seems rather strange. Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alice Fluegge Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:32 PM To: alley77532@peoplepc.com Cc: cook county list Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Oak Lawn Cemetery/privacy issues Some cemeteries try to use the privacy laws to avoid helping researchers, the information we are seeking does not fall into the law as it is written. The law they are using has to do with the current financing of lots. (They are sold like real estate and in fact the deeds to the lots are at the assessor's office although impossible to actually look up that way) Most of the people we are looking for have been dead long enough ago that the lots are paid for already and basically we are just trying to find out who is in the same lot and who paid for the lot originally, so we can find the funeral home or married names of daughters or locations of the surviving family members. Be sure it is an old grave you are looking for and explain this to them or ask to speak to their parent corporation, this is what I had to do to get additional information. Good Luck, Alice Fluegge --- alley77532@peoplepc.com wrote: > researchers, > I called Oak Lawn Cemetery today > and they have privacy isssues > they will look up in the computer and tell me if my family is there > but, will give no details because of privacy issues > > take care, Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

researchers, I called Oak Lawn Cemetery today and they have privacy isssues they will look up in the computer and tell me if my family is there but, will give no details because of privacy issues take care, Debbie

Some cemeteries try to use the privacy laws to avoid helping researchers, the information we are seeking does not fall into the law as it is written. The law they are using has to do with the current financing of lots. (They are sold like real estate and in fact the deeds to the lots are at the assessor's office although impossible to actually look up that way) Most of the people we are looking for have been dead long enough ago that the lots are paid for already and basically we are just trying to find out who is in the same lot and who paid for the lot originally, so we can find the funeral home or married names of daughters or locations of the surviving family members. Be sure it is an old grave you are looking for and explain this to them or ask to speak to their parent corporation, this is what I had to do to get additional information. Good Luck, Alice Fluegge --- alley77532@peoplepc.com wrote: > researchers, > I called Oak Lawn Cemetery today > and they have privacy isssues > they will look up in the computer and tell me if my > family is there > but, will give no details because of privacy issues > > take care, Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

The two main possibilities that come to mind are that she either went to live with Celia or remarried. --pig On 1/14/07 15:20, "Ruth Hyman" <ruth.hyman@verizon.net> wrote: > Cookers, > I have tried in vain to find death information for my great > grandmother, Sarah Scher. In 1910 she was living with her daughter and > son-in-law, Etta and Sam Bernstein. She was born about 1855, so I would > guess that she died between 1910 and 1940, and I doubt she went back to > the "old country", because the entire remaining family (minus her > husband, who had probably recently died) came to the U.S. with her. > I have tried IRAAD online. I have called the cemetery where other family > members are buried. I have searched Ancestry for her? I think I also > searched the Trib. for an obit. Her other children were Louis, Julius, > Anna Neimark (Jacob), Mary Komer (Joseph), Rose Shapin (Milton), and > Celia Simon. All lived in Chicago except Celia, who had gone to > California about 1923. > Any ideas and/or help would be most welcome. > Ruth in Rockville Centre, NY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Cookers, I have tried in vain to find death information for my great grandmother, Sarah Scher. In 1910 she was living with her daughter and son-in-law, Etta and Sam Bernstein. She was born about 1855, so I would guess that she died between 1910 and 1940, and I doubt she went back to the "old country", because the entire remaining family (minus her husband, who had probably recently died) came to the U.S. with her. I have tried IRAAD online. I have called the cemetery where other family members are buried. I have searched Ancestry for her? I think I also searched the Trib. for an obit. Her other children were Louis, Julius, Anna Neimark (Jacob), Mary Komer (Joseph), Rose Shapin (Milton), and Celia Simon. All lived in Chicago except Celia, who had gone to California about 1923. Any ideas and/or help would be most welcome. Ruth in Rockville Centre, NY

My GGGrandmother Elizabeth Bock Married 1st Adam Schwarzkopf, when Adam died in 1865 leaving the 23 year old widow with 3 small children. The children were Peter B. 1860 ( My GGrandfather), Adam B. 1863 Elizabeth Lizzie B. 1865 Elizabeth married Louis Dietz about 1866.They had 8 more children DIETZ Children of Elizabeth and Louis Louis 1867 Nelly 1869 Helen 1872 Katherine (Kate) 1874 Maude 1876 Edwin 1882-1882 William 1890-1890 Frances Unk Does anyone connect to this family in Cook County Chicago Lorraine Schwartzkopf-Panozzo Panozzo,Palmo,Schwartzkopf, Ryd,Rodman& Allied Cook Co. IL 1850 to present.

researchers, until I can find more clues I'm wondering about this name ESDALE since my grandfather had the wrong spellings for 3 of the 4 surnames I am now wondering if this might be wrong, too of the 7 siblings only 1 stayed in Indiana, she died in 1914 by 1910, I have found 5 of them in Chicago Heights, Cook Co, IL I suspect Mary WEIN ESDALE was in Cook Co, IL and possibly in Chicago Heights are there any city directories for Chicago Heights online for 1900 to 1910? if I had some other spellings I could try census searches for Cook Co I want to be able to find all of them take care, Debbie

Hi; Don't recall seeing the original on this but a quick check in the 1937 directory gave me the following, hope its useful: Clara Thomen; res. 4726 N. Western; ARDmor-5135 Jno Thomen; res. 2655 W. Ainslie; EDGwtr-3564 Cheers, Masugu

Email or post the names. I have a subscription to Godfrey and will see if the article is available. Susan

If you post the names on the list, someone can search for you. If you have a subscription to Newsbank or godfrey.org, you can also search. Regards, Mary

No, just that there are not a lot of obituaries in the Historical Archives for that time. I have a sensational in-family murder story in my grandfather's family that was headlined in several articles from July, 1922, and it showed there! Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cook-co-il-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Husk Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:36 AM To: cook-co-il@rootsweb.com Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Articles in Chicago Tribune Archives - 1920-30'smissing? Is it true that many of the 1920's-30's issues are missing from the Chicago Tribune Archive, either accessed through the occasionally working tiny url or through Godfrey's subscription? Are they the same and the same dates still missing? SHusk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it true that many of the 1920's-30's issues are missing from the Chicago Tribune Archive, either accessed through the occasionally working tiny url or through Godfrey's subscription? Are they the same and the same dates still missing? SHusk

I have been doing some work on my stepfather's family, and would like to get a copy of an article in the Trib that appeared in September, 1956 -- between the 10th and 12th! My stepfather's mother was murdered by her boarder, and I had a copy at one time (which did not have the date or name of the newspaper) and must have lost it. Can anyone tell me if I could get an article that far back??? How??? Thanks much for your help. Lorraine Moore Born in Chicago now Living in Baton Rouge P.S. Saints play Philadelphia tonight and I will cheer for them - but not if they play the Bears for the NFC Championship. I live and die with my Bears - Bulls - and Cubs!!

researchers, I just wanted you to know that I had a death certificate search and I have the right Susie I should have the certificate next week thanks & take care, Debbie

Chicago Tribune (IL) - July 09, 1944 SCHNEIBER Deceased Name: Paul W. Schneiber Paul W. Schneiber, of 2821, N. Campbell avenue and Walkerton, Ind., July 7, 1944, beloved husband of Elizabeth Schneiber, fond father of Eleanor Syverson, Clara Piehl, Harvey, and Alvin; also survived by seven grandchildren. At chapel, 5501 N. Ashland avenue, where services will be held Monday, July 10, at 3 p.m. Interment Acacia Park. //////////////////////////// Chicago Tribune (IL) - April 19, 1963 Schneiber Deceased Name: Elizabeth Schneiber Elizabeth Schneiber, beloved wife of the late Paul; fond mother of Eleanor Syverson, Clara Piehl, Harvey and Alvin; grandmother of seven; great-grandmother of thirteen; sister of Gertrude Roese, Frieda Merges, and Charles Schnell. Funeral Saturday, April 20, at 9:30 a.m., from M. J. Suerth Funeral Home, 6754 Northwest highway, to Mary Seat of Wisdom church, Park Ridge. Interment St. Boniface cemetery. NE 1-1240. ///////////////////////////// Chicago Tribune (IL) - May 16, 2004 Deceased Name: SCHNEIBER, ALICE G. Alice G. Schneiber, nee Garber, 90, of Vernon Hills and Ft. Myers, FL. Beloved wife of the late Alvin P. and dear friend of Robert Jones of Vernon Hills; loving mother of Donna (Richard) Hultberg; cherished grandmother of Jeffrey (Tina) Hultberg, Julie (Daniel) Keefe and Steven (Annie) Hultberg; devoted great-grandmother of Zachary and Daniel Keefe and Eric, Matthew and Michael Hultberg; fond sister of Marsha (the late Robert) Scott, June (the late Harold) Larsen, Robert Garber; and sister-in-law of Jean Garber. Preceded in death by her sisters Ann Sullivan-George, Mary Gogots-Boyd, Mildred Wiechman, Helen Garber and her brother Samuel Garber. Visitation Tuesday, May 18, 10 to 11 a.m. at Grace Lutheran Church, 1624 E. Euclid Ave., Mt. Prospect, IL 60056, followed by memorial service at 11 a.m. Interment private. Arrangements by Simkins Funeral Home, 847-965-2500. ///////////////////////////////////////////// Chicago Tribune (IL) - June 12, 1981 SYVERSON Deceased Name: Eleanor Syverson Eleanor Syverson of Williams Bay Wisconsin, formerly of Chicago, loving mother of William, of Williams Bay, Robert of Horthorne Wood; grandmother of 7; great grandmother of 4; Sister of Clara Piehl, Alvin and Harvey. Services Saturday June 13th, 7:00p.m., Walworth Funeral Home. Visitation after 2:00p.m. Saturday. In Lieu of flowers, gifts of the American Cancer Society or Chapel on the Hill Community Church. 275-3424. //////////////////////////////////////////////// Chicago Tribune (IL) - November 15, 1984 PIEHL Deceased Name: Clara G. Piehl Clara G. Piehl, beloved wife of the late Arthur C.; dear mother of Betty (Harry) Shoemaker and Donald (Donna) Piehl; grandmother of Barbara Veale and Terry Shoemaker, Steven and Gregory Piehl; dear sister of Harvey and Alvin Schneiber and the late Eleanor Syverson. Visitation at St. Matthew Lutheran Home, 1601 N. Western Ave., Park Ridge, IL., Thursday 10 a.m. until time of service 11 a.m. Interment Ridgewood Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, memorials to St. Matthew Lutheran Home appreciated. Info. M.S. Suerth Funeral Home, 631-1240. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Contra Costa Times (Walnut Creek, CA) - April 3, 1996 Deceased Name: Harvey Peter Schneiber -- Walnut Creek Oct. 5, 1905 March 29, 1996 Harvey Schneiber, an employee of the Federal Maritime Commission more than 30 years, died Friday at his home in Walnut Creek. He was 90. The Chicago native lived in Oakland before moving to Walnut Creek 31 years ago. He was chief of the western branch of the maritime commission. He also was president of Rossmoor Sportsman Club, moderator of Rossmoor Polgriam Congressional Church and judge advocate emeritus of Rossmoor Navy League. He is survived by one grandchild and four great-grandchildren. His wife, Freda Schneiber, died in 1994. Services: 2 p.m. Thursday at Byron Park, Walnut Creek. Ashes to be scattered at sea. Arrangements by the Neptune Society of Walnut Creek. Memorial gifts: Save the Redwoods Association, 114 Sansome St., San Francisco, CA 94104. ///////////////////////////////////////////////// Good Luck

I am looking for information on Paul SCHNEIBER, born February 7, 1873 in Germany. He immigrated to the United States probably with his parents in 1881. They lived in Chicago, Illinois. In 1930 he was living with his wife Elizabeth. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You, Carol

researchers, I need to know if this is our Fred SCHULDT FREDERICK M/W UNK 0034512 1920-08-11 COOK CHICAGO HEIGHTS 20-08-14 if it isn't I need to start thinking about other spelling for the surname his wife was Elizabeth and they had no children I think he was married before his marriage to her so there is the possibility of children for just him thanks & take care, Debbie

Someone mentioned a yearly booklet of the best of these columns. Rumors say that my husband's parents met as a result of both of them submitting their thoughts. Does anyone have any of these booklets or know how I can find the articles. Time Period would be 1926-27. Thank you. Sophie

----- Original Message ----- From: <alley77532@peoplepc.com> To: <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] last 2 obits requests-THOMEN There are no obits for the Thomen girls in the Chicago Daily Tribune. My ancestors, who lived and died in Chicago during the period between 1879 and 1940, had death notices in the Chicago Daily News and not the Tribune. The Chicago Daily News is available on Microfilm at the Newberry Library and probably in other locations. Dave Otto