Hi all, I am interested in finding info pertaining to my fathers family. Elizabeth Bakos married to Edwin and daughter of Mary and John Kossuth. I have the Tribune obituaries but I would like to know if anyone has any census info or address for them. Elizabeth died in 1995. I think that she is either the cousin or aunt of my grandfather Joseph Kossuth (Kosuth). Thank you in advance, Paul Kosuth prkosuth@ll.net

Grace, I, too, washed my hair in the sink when I was younger. We used Rinse Away to detangle our hair, even the boys. It was the same sink on which my mom used to keep Fels Naptha and American Family soap (she used both, not necessarily at the same time). My mom used the soap a lot on me and my brother when we cursed. I still can taste that stuff in my mouth. Yuk!!! (:( Bill Karr ----- Original Message ----- From: grace w gathman <wallace26@juno.com> Date: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 11:46 Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Hot Water To: luv2pla@earthlink.net Cc: Cook-Co-IL-L@rootsweb.com > I always wash my hair in the kitchen sink--either before or > after I take > a bath. I don't like showers and only take them when I have no other > choice . When I swim at the rehabe unit, I do want to get the > stuff they > put in the water out of my hair, so I shower and wash my hair. > We are all > different, aren't we. Grace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My grandfather had a big coal furnace/boiler in the basement to heat the building and next to it stood a much smaller coal fired stove for hot water and for many years we only had hot water on Saturdays. I was too young to remember but I was told that prior to that my grandmother had to heat water for laundry on a rather primitive gas fired stove consisting of two gas burners mounted on cast iron legs. Hope this helps, and by the way, my mother-in-law always said that the only good thing about the "good old days" was that they were gone! Sue

I always wash my hair in the kitchen sink--either before or after I take a bath. I don't like showers and only take them when I have no other choice . When I swim at the rehabe unit, I do want to get the stuff they put in the water out of my hair, so I shower and wash my hair. We are all different, aren't we. Grace

Hi List So here we go again. When I was young we always had hot water but we didn't always have money for coal, so only had a hot shower occasionally, the cold shower method was get all wet as quickly as possible, turn off shower, lather up, turn shower on and rinse quickly, and dry just as quickly. Total elapsed time, about one and a quarter mins in winter, five or six mins in summer. So there. Al Campbell On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:56:13 -0600, grace w gathman wrote: >�We never had hot water until 1942--my mother >�heated it on the stove in the kitchen. I loved >�to go to my grandmothers who lived on >�Springfield near Grand. They had hot water and >�a very deep old fashioned bath tub. My idea of >�heaven. I really don't know how todays kids >�with their 30 minute daily showers would ever >�survive. My grand daughter can not believe that >�I only washed my hair once a week. Unless it >�was summer and we went to the pool where they >�had showers. Somehow we made it--with only one >�bathroom. Grace

When I was growing up it was the same--wash hair once a week--it always looked nice--our hot water thing was hooked to the back of our stove and it was a tank but not very big----we were only let put a few inches of hot water in the tub to bathe. I also loved to go to either set of grandparents they let us fill the tub and they had central heat and lots of hot water!!! Now the kids never think of how much hot water they use and take it as a given!! Most do not take baths but showers and use so much more water than we ever did. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "grace w gathman" <wallace26@juno.com> To: <awolfe12@tampabay.rr.com> Cc: <Cook-Co-IL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Hot Water > We never had hot water until 1942--my mother heated it on the stove in > the kitchen. I loved to go to my grandmothers who lived on Springfield > near Grand. They had hot water and a very deep old fashioned bath tub. My > idea of heaven. I really don't know how todays kids with their 30 minute > daily showers would ever survive. My grand daughter can not believe that > I only washed my hair once a week. Unless it was summer and we went to > the pool where they had showers. Somehow we made it--with only one > bathroom. Grace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.25/669 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 9:58 PM > >

I actually don't remember not having hot water, but I was born just after WWII ended and my dad returned from duty to the cities only to find there was no place for the three of us to live! So, he and my mom found what used to be a shoemaker's shop in Berwyn - it had cold water only. My dad would constantly tell me how mom used to wash my poopie diapers in cold water. I do remember the venetian blinds and wallpaper they put up, and the rear steps out of our apartment. I was just short of my 4th birthday when we moved across the street to an apartment on the third floor with hot/cold running water! Mom swears the cold water later on caused arthritis in her hands! I also remember the street cars on Ridgeland on 22nd street. But, they were gone around 1950-51. Karen

I was thinking about that very thing. We used to wash our hair in the bathroom sink (dipping method) or while in the bathtub. To this day, I can't stand to wash my hair in the shower...preferring the kitchen sink. (Hope that doesn't gross anyone out.) LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "grace w gathman" <wallace26@juno.com> To: <awolfe12@tampabay.rr.com> Cc: <Cook-Co-IL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Hot Water > We never had hot water until 1942--my mother heated it on the stove in > the kitchen. I loved to go to my grandmothers who lived on Springfield > near Grand. They had hot water and a very deep old fashioned bath tub. My > idea of heaven. I really don't know how todays kids with their 30 minute > daily showers would ever survive. My grand daughter can not believe that > I only washed my hair once a week. Unless it was summer and we went to > the pool where they had showers. Somehow we made it--with only one > bathroom. Grace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Perhaps one more magazine dealer would be worth contacting, Brattle Book Shop in Boston. Have you already tried "Look"? They continued to have a few special issues for years after they quit publishing regularly. Best of luck, Linda in Boston --- JIM WARCHOL <warchol99@msn.com> wrote: > I have been told by cousins of mine that relatives > were on the cover of 'Life' magazine back when Ellis > Island was refurbished. I did find a copy of Life > that covered the refurbishing of Ellis Island but my > relatives were not on the cover. The issue date of > the one I found was 9-1-90. The picture I'm looking > for depicted a mother holding her child (1 year old > and my aunt) along with her husband and their young > son. The year was 1907. Supposedly this same > picture hangs somewhere in Ellis Island. > Unfortunately none of my cousins kept a copy, wrote > down the info, nor do they recall exactly when it > was published. > > I was just curious if anyone recalls such an issue > and may have more information on it or where else I > may look. I know this is a long shot as none of you > would be looking for something this specific but I > thought I would take a chance. I have researched > the Life magazine cover archives, other magazines in > case my cousins were mistaken about it being Life, > ebay and other miscellaneous back issue magazine > sellers. > > Thanks. > > Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

We never had hot water until 1942--my mother heated it on the stove in the kitchen. I loved to go to my grandmothers who lived on Springfield near Grand. They had hot water and a very deep old fashioned bath tub. My idea of heaven. I really don't know how todays kids with their 30 minute daily showers would ever survive. My grand daughter can not believe that I only washed my hair once a week. Unless it was summer and we went to the pool where they had showers. Somehow we made it--with only one bathroom. Grace

What about posting to the Timm surname list on RootsWeb? http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.timm/mb.ashx Bonnie -- Jo Daviess Co, IL RAOGK Volunteer www.raogk.org Find A Grave County Keeper www.findagrave.com Visit my Genealogy Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/4zq7z

When I was little I remember a big old hot water heater in the kitchen. It had to be run by gas because there was always a flame beneath it. This was about 1945. We moved around a lot and some places had no hot water heater. Does anyone remember heating water on the kitchen stove to fill the galvanized tub mom put behind the coal stove in the dining room . This was done when we had our weekly baths in the winter, because some "Flats" didn't even have a bathtub. We moved around a lot because the "relief checks were not always on time, and the rent wasn't always paid. My Mom was a widow with 5 children. Let us all praise God for all the abundant blessings He bestows on us in this day and age! Amen! Alice from Dean , Paulina, Elkgrove, Wolcott, Western , and Hirsch Streets or Avenues. These are some of the places we lived.

We have some pictures of the TIMM family who at one time lived in central Illinois. They are beautiful photos of folks in rather expensive clothing and are identified as Timm family and their spouses. Have tried the central Illinois lists but no takers, is anyone in the cook county area a member of this family. Understand Mr. Timm made his money on the grain market in Chicago. Mrs. Timm (widowed) married my husband's gg grandfather Johann Meyer. Thank you. Sophie

I remember our hot water heater being in the kitchen too. Right between the gas stove (which we had to strike a match to light) and the oil burning space heater used to heat the whole flat. Dad rigged up a stove pipe to the front blower of the heater and it ran along the floor in order to heat the living room during the winter. I guess we only used that room during Christmas. Some months, we just closed the living room off and my mom hung clothes to dry in there.

In trying to complete my family history about my seven aunts and uncles who went to Chicago in the early 1900's a second cousin I found sent me a small snapshot of a young girl in her communion dress taken outside of (I think) a bar in Chicago and on the window was painted "McDONNELL"S BAR & RESTUARANT" My cousin thought it once belonged to one of my uncles but not remember which one. I guess the age of the photo is in the 1940's or thereabouts. Later in life all my relatives used the McDonald spelling instead of McDonnell. If any lister has any knowledge of this bar and restaurant and where it was I would be very pleased to hear from them Thank you Michael McDonnell

Jim, Have you tried to e-mail anyone at Ellis Island? If the photo is of something in their collection, they probably had to give permission for its use, and they may have more information on when it was specifically published. Another possibility is that they MAY offer (reissued?) copies of that magazine (or maybe just prints of the cover) in their bookstore/gift shop. We hit LOTS of National Park sites, and they tend to offer items that are very specific to their site (even reprints of Cobblestone magazine for kids). Their web page is: http://www.nps.gov/elis/index.htm and there's an e-mail link on the left-hand side. My husband has had pretty good luck corresponding with NPS locations via e-mail (not regarding something like this), so it might be worth a try. Good luck. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM WARCHOL" <warchol99@msn.com> To: "Mailing List 2" <cook-co-il-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:31 AM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Looking for a Life Magazine Immigrant Photograph >I have been told by cousins of mine that relatives were on the cover of >'Life' magazine back when Ellis Island was refurbished. I did find a copy >of Life that covered the refurbishing of Ellis Island but my relatives were >not on the cover. The issue date of the one I found was 9-1-90. The >picture I'm looking for depicted a mother holding her child (1 year old and >my aunt) along with her husband and their young son. The year was 1907. >Supposedly this same picture hangs somewhere in Ellis Island. >Unfortunately none of my cousins kept a copy, wrote down the info, nor do >they recall exactly when it was published. > > I was just curious if anyone recalls such an issue and may have more > information on it or where else I may look. I know this is a long shot as > none of you would be looking for something this specific but I thought I > would take a chance. I have researched the Life magazine cover archives, > other magazines in case my cousins were mistaken about it being Life, ebay > and other miscellaneous back issue magazine sellers. > > Thanks. > > Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My siblings and I had a discussion this weekend on what system we used to heat water prior to natural gas water heaters. We all remember a coal/stoker and boiler for heat, but only one brother remembers a separate "boiler" that heated water. We were raised in Berwyn and remember getting a conversion to gas after WW 2. dolores

I have been told by cousins of mine that relatives were on the cover of 'Life' magazine back when Ellis Island was refurbished. I did find a copy of Life that covered the refurbishing of Ellis Island but my relatives were not on the cover. The issue date of the one I found was 9-1-90. The picture I'm looking for depicted a mother holding her child (1 year old and my aunt) along with her husband and their young son. The year was 1907. Supposedly this same picture hangs somewhere in Ellis Island. Unfortunately none of my cousins kept a copy, wrote down the info, nor do they recall exactly when it was published. I was just curious if anyone recalls such an issue and may have more information on it or where else I may look. I know this is a long shot as none of you would be looking for something this specific but I thought I would take a chance. I have researched the Life magazine cover archives, other magazines in case my cousins were mistaken about it being Life, ebay and other miscellaneous back issue magazine sellers. Thanks. Jim

I'm just jumping in here --- There should be a Rootsweb list on old photos. I used it once for dating an old family photo. I posted "my story" and someone asked for a scan. I got a good response from a nice woman, which helped answer some questions. Debbie

Shelley, how about posting this same message on the rootsweb MULLEN family message board! Thanks for not being one of those people that finds a family photo and then tries to sell it on EBAY! Vicki Shelley Cardiel wrote: > I've "rescued" an old photograph of Eulalia MULLEN which was taken at the M. > Melander & Bro. Studio in Chicago, Illinois. The photograph is dated May > 30, 1892 and Eulalia appears to be about 1 year old at the time the > photograph was taken. I am hoping to locate someone from her family so that > this wonderful old photograph can be returned to their care. If you are a > member of the family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. > > > > Thanks, > > Shelley > >