I'm not sure how laws differ from state to state, but, here in Arizona I spent an entire day making calls and trying to chase down a way to donate a cemetery plot. Any charitable groups were not interested because the cost of opening the grave and other additional costs, such as the liner, would still be too much for any charity case to afford. The only option left to us was to deed the plot back to the cemetery and let them sell it again.

Hi, You are all so helpful, I hope you can assist me. I have the original deed from 1925 to a family cemetery plot in Hillside, Illinois. No one in our family will ever use it, so I'd like to donate it. When I called the cemetery, they told me I would have to go through an involved legal process to donate it. If it is as difficult as they say, that plot will remain empty forever. Does anyone have any suggestions/comments/ knowledge about donating this plot to someone who could use it? thanks a bunch, Anne

Hi Paul; I didn't find anything that pointed to a kinship between Elizabeth and Joseph. Elizabeth's parents were John (who was gone by 1920), and Mary who from at least 1920-1937, lived at 4614 Winchester Ave, near the stockyards. As of 1930, Edwin was living there also. In 1937, Jacob Kossuth--Elizabeth's brother Jack/Jock--owned a tavern next door, at 4612 Winchester Ave. At the very least they likely knew Joseph as they were all affiliated with St. Michaels. Hopefully, the following data will help you in your search. Cheers, Masugu *Bakos/Kossuth:* *1910 United States Federal Census:* Name: Edwin Bakos Age in 1910: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: John Father's Birth Place: Hungary Mother's name: Sophia Mother's Birth Place: Hungary Home in 1910: Tiffin Ward 2, Seneca, Ohio Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age John Bakos 35 Sophia Bakos 29 Edwin Bakos 9 Jno Bakos 5 Arthur Bakos 3 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Tiffin Ward 2, Seneca, OH; Roll: T624_1229; Page: 11B; ED: 145; Image: 185. *1920 United States Federal Census:* Name: Elizabeth Kosuth Home in 1920: 4614 Winchester Ave., Chicago Ward 29, Cook, Illinois Age: 20 years Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's Birth Place: Slovakia Mother's name: Mary Mother's Birth Place: Slovakia Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 327 Household Members: Name Age Mary Kosuth un Mary Kosuth 24 Dressmaker Elizabeth Kosuth 20 Stenographer--Battery co. Sophia Kosuth 18 Jock Kosuth 16 Mike Kosuth 14 John Kosuth 10 Stephen Mayher 25 Laborer--stockyards Anna Mayher 26 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Chicago Ward 29, Cook, IL; Roll: T625_345; Page: 23A; ED: 1752; Image: 327. *Polk's 1929 Criss-Cross Directory:* 4614 S. Winchester Bakos, Edwin (wife Eliz.) Koset, Mary Mrs. 2837 W. 51st St. Kossuth, Joseph (Wife Anna), Grocer *1930 United States Federal Census:* Name: Edwin M Bakos Home in 1930: 4614 S. Winchester, Chicago, Cook, Illinois Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Race: White Occupation: Wife's occupation: Household Members: Name Age Edwin M Bakos 30 Elizabeth Bakos 31 They lived in the same house as Mary "Kossut" and family, members of both families follow: Mary Kosut 50 abt 1880 Czechoslovakia Head None Imm. 1899--AL Mary Kosut 28 abt 1902 Illinois Daughter Seamstress--at home Jack Kosut 24 abt 1906 Illinois Son Laborer--garage Mike Kosut 22 abt 1908 Illinois Son Office clerk--telephone co. John Kosut 19 abt 1911 Illinois Son None Edwin M Bakos 30 abt 1900 Wisconsin Head Music teacher--teaching in home Elizabeth Bakos 31 abt 1899 Illinois Wife Stenographer--US Pipe Co. Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Chicago, Cook, IL; Roll: 436; Page: 7A; ED: 2528; Image: 895.0. *1937 Chicago Phone Directory:* Jacob Kossuth; tavern 4612 S. Winchester, Ave.; LAF-4612 Joseph Kossuth; residence 2837 W. 51st; REP-7171 Michael E. Kossuth; residence 4614 S. Winchester; LAF-3456 *Trib Obits:* 1963-11-29 Chicago Tribune (IL) Kossuth Edition: Chicago Tribune Mary Kossuth, loving daughter of Mrs. Mary Kossuth and the late John; dear sister of Elizabeth Bakos, Sophie Vanacek, Michael, and John. Funeral Saturday, Nov. 30, 9 a.m., from Kubina-Tybor Funeral Home, 1938 W. 47th street to St. Michael's church. Interment Resurrection. LA 3-2191. Copyright 1963, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19631129dn077 1965-07-16 Chicago Tribune (IL) Kossuth Edition: Chicago Tribune Michael E. Kossuth, suddenly, dear son of Mary; fond brother of Elizabeth Bakos, Sophie Vanecek, and John. Funeral Saturday, July 17, 9 a.m., from Kubina & Tybor Chapel, 1938 W. 47th street, to St. Michael's church. Mass 9:30 a.m. Interment Resurrection. Veteran of W. W. II. Member of St. Rita council, No. 2034, K. of C. and Bell post, No. 242, A. L. LA 3-2191. Copyright 1965, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19650716dn041 1967-04-12 Chicago Tribune (IL) Kossuth Edition: Chicago Tribune Mary Kossuth, beloved wife of the late John; dear mother of Elizabeth Bakos, Sophie Banacek, John, and the late Anna Mayher, Mary, Jacob, and Michael; mother-in-law of Edwin Bakos, Pauline, and Sophie; sister of Mrs. Elizabeth Koval; grandmother of seven; great-grandmother of 12. Funeral services Thursday, April 13, 9 a.m., from Kubina-Tybor Chapel, 1938 W. 47th street, to St. Michael church. Interment Resurrection. LA 3-2191. Copyright 1967, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19670412dn102 1968-08-20 Chicago Tribune (IL) Sarna Edition: Chicago Tribune Anna Sarna, nee Marcinek, beloved wife of the late Adam Sarna; dear mother of John [Sophie], Andrew [Josephine], George [Mary], Joseph [Josephine], Cyril [Marie], Peter [Anna], Edward [Irene], Anna [Joseph] Kossuth, and Mary Evancho and the late Barbara; 24 grandchildren; 40 great-grandchildren; sister of Louis Marcinek. Resting at Satala Funeral Home, 4744 S. Damen avenue. Funeral, Thursday, Aug. 22, 9 a.m. at St. Michael Slovak church. Interment Resurrection. Bi 7-9379. Copyright 1968, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19680820dn142 1977-03-11 Chicago Tribune (IL) BAKOS Edition: Chicago Tribune Edwin M. Bakos, dear husband of Elizabeth, nee Kossuth; fond brother of John (Elizabeth) Bakos. Anna (the late Leo) Summer and Sophia (Charles) Steinmetz; beloved nephew of Anna Sneklaus and Valerie Bergan; also many nieces and nephews. Funeral services Saturday, March 12. 9 a.m., from Kubina-Tybor Chapel, 1938 W. 47th St., to St. Michael Church, Entombment Resurrection Mausoleum. 523-2191. Copyright 1977, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19770311dn005 1977-09-23 Chicago Tribune (IL) STAHLAK Edition: Chicago Tribune Frank R. Stahlak age 62, beloved husband of Ann, nee Michalski, devoted father of Beverly (Robert) Buciak, Roger and Russell; dear grandfather of Barton and Melissa; fond brother of Marie Claswon, Ann Smith, Joseph and Pauline Kossuth. Funeral service 9:30 am, Saturday, Sept. 24, 1977, from the Schmaedeke Funeral Home, 10701 S. Harlem Ave., Worth, to Our Lady of the Ridge Church, Chicago Ridge. Mass 10:00 am. Visitation Thursday, 6-10 pm and Friday 2-10 pm. Interment Resurrection Cemetery. 448-6000 Copyright 1977, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. Record Number: 19770923dn091 1982-01-12 Chicago Tribune (IL) SARNA Edition: Chicago Tribune Andrew L. Sarna, beloved husband of Bernice and the late Josephine; dear father of Marie (John) Gallik, Sylvia (James) Wasicak and the late Thomas; loving grandfather of four; fond brother of Ann Kossuth, John, Cyril, Joseph, Peter and Edward; stepfather of Edward, Paul and Ruth Gerald; uncle of many nieces and nephews. Funeral services Wednesday, Jan. 13, at 9 a.m., from Blake-Lamb Funeral Home, 4272 W. 103d St., Oak Lawn, to St. Michael Church, 48th and Damen, for 10 a.m. mass. Interment Resurrection. Member, Fourth Degree, La SSalie. General Assembly, K. of C. For public transportation info. call 636-1193 or Chicago 735-4242. Copyright 1982, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune. *Social Security* Name: Edwin Bakos SSN: 354-09-5212 Last Residence: 60609 Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States of America Born: 8 Feb 1901 Died: Mar 1977 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 ) Source Citation: Number: 354-09-5212;Issue State: Illinois;Issue Date: Before 1951. Edwin BAKOS Birth Date: 8 Feb 1901 Death Date: Mar 1977 Social Security Number: 354-09-5212 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 60609 Localities: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Stock Yards, Cook, Illinois Name: Elizabeth K. Bakos SSN: 319-07-5715 Last Residence: 60609 Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States of America Born: 5 Nov 1898 Died: Oct 1995 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 ) Source Citation: Number: 319-07-5715;Issue State: Illinois;Issue Date: Before 1951 Elizabeth K. Bakos Birth Date: 5 Nov 1898 Death Date: Oct 1995 Social Security Number: 319-07-5715 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 60609 Localities: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Stock Yards, Cook, Illinois Name: Joseph Kossuth SSN: 335-03-9840 Last Residence: 60609 Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States of America Born: 18 Mar 1894 Died: 5 Jan 1991 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 ) Source Citation: Number: 335-03-9840;Issue State: Illinois;Issue Date: Before 1951. *U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002* Name: Joseph Kossuth Address: 4845 S Seeley Ave City: Chicago State: Illinois Zip Code: 60609 Phone Number: 312-523-2411 Residence Years: 1993 1994 Source Citation: City: Chicago; State: Illinois; Year(s): 1993 1994.

I'm not in any way related to this line, but simply wanted to say I think you're amazing for doing all this research for other people. Lois

I see, more and more, that I'm not alone! Believe me, I've *tried* washing my hair while in the shower and I just hate it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Williams" <rbjb2@prinetime.net> To: <cook-co-il@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:58 AM Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Hot water > When I was a teen in the 70's, we lived in an old house with no shower > so Mom and I would use the utility sink in the laundry room to wash our > hair. My Mom, born and raised in Chicago and now living with us in > Oregon, still washes her hair in the sink even though she has a shower > and a separate tub...she loves to tell stories about her Bobcka > (grandmother) who had a lovely old cookstove with a hot water reservoir > in back. > > Bonnie in Oregon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I was a teen in the 70's, we lived in an old house with no shower so Mom and I would use the utility sink in the laundry room to wash our hair. My Mom, born and raised in Chicago and now living with us in Oregon, still washes her hair in the sink even though she has a shower and a separate tub...she loves to tell stories about her Bobcka (grandmother) who had a lovely old cookstove with a hot water reservoir in back. Bonnie in Oregon

Trib archives go back to 1865...some of our Chicago area libraries have the microfilms. ellen@BarrFinancial.com.

Ann, So far I have only searched back to 1903, it may go back further, I am just not sure. Kyanne On 2/7/07, Ann Smith <genescene2940@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > how far back do the Tribune archives go? > Ann > >

Hi all, Awhile back I posted a query about the 1940 Tribune article on the 1878 Chicago street map my gr grandfather lithographed in 1878. I have yet to look into Line Reference Library noted in the article, my search has moved to quickly for me to keep up. I "might" have found this map? With a very enjoyable contact with the Newberry Library I have several sources of maps printed in Chicago by Anders Askevold. Newberry sent one digital copy of another map and the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library just sent digital copies of two others, 1874 Illinois and 1875 Chicago. The 1874 Illinois map was published by The Chicago Map Establishment, Askevold and Roy proprietors. I know of this partnership from the Chicago directory page of 1874. Peter Roy is noted for maps of the 1880-1890's. The 1875 Chicago map has the same business name with A. Askevold proprietor and the same business address used in the directory pages for my gr grandfather till 1878. I still have four maps to find from two sources, the Chicago Historical society and the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison. I am sure these maps will have "The Chicago Map Establishment" noted. This business is a clue for me to understand why Anders moved the family back to Norway about 1880. How would I find information on this Chicago business? Dates might only run from 1874-1878, 1872-1880 might be more in the time frame. Would records of this business of Ashland Blk. at Clark and Randolph be kept somewhere? Al Askevold Forsyth, MO.

Hi I just joined www.Godfrey.org this morning, I have access to the Chicago Tribune Archives, and much more, what fun! Kyanne On 2/7/07, mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Save me from slapping myself in the forehead. I somehow deleted the > email > where someone talked about a Library we could join to obtain access to the > Chicago Trib. Archives. Does someone still have the link? > Thank you so much! > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COOK-CO-IL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Save me from slapping myself in the forehead. I somehow deleted the email where someone talked about a Library we could join to obtain access to the Chicago Trib. Archives. Does someone still have the link? Thank you so much! Margaret

Thank you so kindly to all the people that have written me thru the board and directly with many suggestions of where to go next. I now have quite a few places to try to beat the bushes more. Thanks, Katie

Hello Listers ~ I'm looking for an obit for Edna K. Johnson (nee Smith). Her father was Charles F. Smith; mother was Agnes J. Quinlan Smith. Her sister was Gertrude A. Smith Visek. My records show her birth as 1905 in Cook Co. I don't know anymore about Edna. Help is appreciated. Pat in Oklahoma patpetty@cox.net ***Not Proved as Edna*** Social Security Death Index Record about Edna K. Johnson Name: Edna K. Johnson SSN: 359-18-8512 Last Residence: 60714 Niles, Cook, Illinois, United States of America Born: 4 Oct 1905 Died: 3 Jul 1992 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 )

Dear Katie, I just included the Einhorns in this, but there are Weishaars listed also. I don't know if this will help you at all, but this is part of an old e-mail I saved: St. Anne Cemetery, Park Forest, Cook Co, Illinois. Contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives May 27, 2002 by Leona A. Mathis <emathis@attbi.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Located on Sauk Trail / Rt 30, in Park Forest. Between Central Rd. & Westwood Rd. Just 2 blocks west of, Rich East High School. On a very large stone at the front of the cemetery, is etched; St. Anne Cemetery 1852. On March 23, 2002, my granddaughters, Elizabeth Amato, age 9, Caitlin Amato, age 4, and Sarah D. Mathis, age 16 mos, went to St Anne Cemetery and took pictures of all the readable grave stones. They can be found on the findagrave.com site. Einhorn, Barbara, b. Jun. 8, 1817 - d. Sep. 29, 1905 (old stone) Einhorn, Elizabeth, b. Sep. 24, 1846 - d. Oct. 5, 1926 " Hier Ruhet In Frieden, Elizabeth Einhorn. Gott Gebe Ihr Die Ewige Ruh. ( German ). Here Rests In Peace, Elizabeth Einhorn. God Give Her Eternal Rest. " Einhorn, Michael, b. Dec. 16, 1828 - d. May. 24, 1912 " Hier Ruhet In Frieden, Michael Einhorn. Gott Gebe Ihm Die Ewige Ruh. ( German ). Here Rests In Peace, Michael Einhorn. God Give Him Eternal Rest. " Kathleen Brennan Mammoser Researching BRENNAN, BRETT,GALLAGHER & KENNEDY in CO MAYO>CHICAGO and BRENNAN in CO SLIGO>CHICAGO also MAMMOSER in Schoenenbourg, FRANCE>CHICAGO http://www.mammoser.com

Dear Katie, Here is another tidbit I saved: Will Co, IL USGenWeb Real Estate Owners from History of Will Co., 1878 MAMMOSER, Joseph Farmer P. O. Monee Monee Twp Kathleen Brennan Mammoser Researching BRENNAN, BRETT,GALLAGHER & KENNEDY in CO MAYO>CHICAGO and BRENNAN in CO SLIGO>CHICAGO also MAMMOSER in Schoenenbourg, FRANCE>CHICAGO http://www.mammoser.com

In 1972 yes I said 1972 I was divorced with 5 children and lived in a cabin with no facilities cept an outhouse We bought a Number 2 tub from the hardware store and took turns using it.Once a week we went to the park pool and used their showers.This went on for two years until I was able to move to town and get something better, Norrita in Idaho Norrita in idaho Researching MALM,McCALLA ANDERSON,GUSTAFSON,NEWMAN --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

Dear Katie, I also found a Joseph Einhorn married to a Josephine Mammoser on October 14, 1886. I have no information on children. The Mammosers, Weishaars and Einhorn are mentioned many times in the Mammoser family tree. The Mammosers came to Richton Park, IL from Schoenenberg, France. Kathleen Brennan Mammoser Researching BRENNAN, BRETT,GALLAGHER & KENNEDY in CO MAYO>CHICAGO and BRENNAN in CO SLIGO>CHICAGO also MAMMOSER in Schoenenbourg, FRANCE>CHICAGO http://www.mammoser.com

Dear Katie, A John Mammoser, one of my husband's ancestors, married a Barbara Einhorn. I have this info on that family: Obituary: Teutopolis Press - May 17, 1906 Joseph Einhorn Dead In the death of Joseph Einhorn, Saturday, Island Grove loses one of its oldest and most respected citizens. While his death has not been unlooked for, the news was received with regret by all of his many friends. The deceased was an excellent citizen and reared an excellent family. He was a good neighbor, friend and Christian. Men like him are missed and mourned in any community. Joseph Einhorn was born in Germany over 80 years ago. He was married to Mary Weishart there and 39 years ago came to this country and settled in Cook County, IL and 27 years ago came to Island Grove to live. To this union were born 11 children of whom the following are living: Mrs.Mary Schneiderwint, Spirit Lake, Iowa, Joseph, Michael, Mrs. Barbara Mammoser, Kathleen Brennan Mammoser Researching BRENNAN, BRETT,GALLAGHER & KENNEDY in CO MAYO>CHICAGO and BRENNAN in CO SLIGO>CHICAGO also MAMMOSER in Schoenenbourg, FRANCE>CHICAGO http://www.mammoser.com

I just want to thank everyone that responded with suggestions to help me out. A lot of the suggestions I had already pursued to no avail. There were also a number of suggestions I had not considered and am in the process of pursuing those. A couple members even went so far as to do some research and send me a picture with the hopes that it was the correct one. Unfortunately they were not. Thanks again, I appreciate all the responses and suggestions. Hopefully I will be able to find what I am looking for. Jim

I am writing to request direction for research. 1. How do I definitively tie family members together, naming the six children? 2. How can I find where Peter and Margaret are buried? 3. How can I find where the farm land was? A published biography of my gr-gr grandfather Michael Einhorn (1828-1915), cabinet maker and later farmer, says that he immigrated in 1844 from Selz, Prussia. Many important details come out in the small section referring to his parents, Peter and Margaret: "Locating in Cook County, Illinois, he purchased land and turned his attention to farming, which he carried on up to the time of his death. He passed away in March 1851, and left a widow and six children to mourn his loss. He was the owner of one hundred and sixty acres of land, and upon his farm his wife remained for two years, when she, too passed away in March 1853. The parents therefore did not long enjoy their now home. Upon the mother's death the heirs sold the property, receiving about $8 per acre." The only clues I have found are: 1. An Einhorn family group migrated in 1844: cabinet makers Antoine (27) and Joseph (17), spinster Barbara Einhorn (25), children Barbara (4) and Marie (5). There is no clear indication how the individuals are related. 2. Family headed by Anton Einhorn (44) living in Bloom, Il in 1850 census. 3. Family headed by Michael Einhorn living in Rich, Il in 1850 along with sisters Barbara and Magdalin born in France/Germany. 4. Family headed by Joseph Einhorn living in Rich, IL in 1870 census along with sisters Eva (48) and Mary (32), all born in France/Germany. 5. There are 7 Einhorns buried in St. Anne's cemetery in Richton, IL. 6. Church records at St. Peter's in Chicago show Michael was godfather for Joseph Einhorn's children and visa versa. 7. 1855 Chicago Directory shows Joseph to be a carver. By 1875 he became a saloon keeper. (1875 Chicago Directory, 1880 census) 8. Antone Einhorn purchased in April 1847 and Joseph Einhorn in June 1848. both in Rich township. 9. Many of the first names repeat, implying family relations. What I can't find: 1. Michael or his parent's immigration. (have looked ancestry.com) 2. Record of sale or purchase of the referenced farm land in Cook County. (have checked IRAD, Cyberdrive, Cook County records office, BLM). 3. Probated will (have checked Cook County records). 4. Peter & Margaret's death records or graves. (Have checked IRAD, Cyberdrive, Catholic Cemeteries of the Archdiocese of Chicago) 5. Any record of Peter & Margaret's presence. Have checked 1850 census on ancestry.com) I would appreciate any direction for stones I have not yet uncovered. Katie Brown