Thanks for everyone who responded to my appeal for help with Ancestry.  This List is incredible, and lister Linda Johnson has already provided me with the information I was looking for.   Thank you all again!   Ruth

ILLINOISOPEN ORGANIZATION http://www.ilopen.org BASTARD NATION: THE ADOPTEE RIGHTS ORGANIZATION www.bastard.org ___________________________________________________________________ PRESS RELEASE March 22, 2010 For Immediate Release CONTACT INFORMATION Anita Walker Field, 1-847-677-0594 Marley Greiner, 1-614-571-2999 Mary Lynn Fuller, 1-217-722-4814 ADOPTEE RIGHTS SQUASHED AGAIN IN NEW ILLINOIS BILL - HB 5428. On March 19, 2010, The Illinois House of Representatives passed a bill that purports to give all adopted adults access to their original birth certificates. On March 23, 2010, HB 5428 GOES TO THE SENATE, awaiting committee assignment. Under HB 5428, birth mothers will be allowed to file affidavits of denial - meaning that a birth mother can veto an adoptee's right to access his or her original birth certificate. THIS IS A DANGEROUS STEP TO TAKE. IT CREATES AND CODIFIES A NEW RIGHT THAT HAS NEVER BEFORE BEEN IN OUR ADOPTION ACT. 2. Allows the state to delete a variety of identifying information from official documents, depending upon a birth mother's response. We believe: HB 5428 needs to be amended in the Senate so that it would restore to ALL adoptees access to their original birth certificates, without any restrictions, such as prior parental approval. If that cannot happen, then HB 5428 must be pulled or left to die in committee. Text of Bill: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09600HB5428lv&SessionID=76&GA=96&DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=5428&print=true

Hi Listers,   If there is anyone with a subscription to Ancestry willing to try and help me with something available to individual subscribers (not available on Ancestry's Library Edition), please contact me off-list at [email protected]   Thank you. Ruth

Hi Carolyn; Here ya go. Cheers, Masugu [email protected] The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1897 Reuben H. Donnelley, Compiler Publisher: The Chicago Directory Co., Lakeside Press Bldg., Plymouth Ct., cor. Polk St. Page 1263: Mrs Elsa Lindenborg, tailor 10 Fry and 540 Milwaukee av. Page 1704: Joseph Raschkowiak, tailor 24 Yeaton Page 2661: TAILORS Mrs. Elsa Lindenborg, 540 Milwaukee Ave. Joseph Raschkowiak, 24 Yeaton

I have sent the pages requested to Carol by email. Gail

Thanks to all who responded to my request for determining the secondary cause of death on a certificate. The deceased died from chronic interstitial nephritis - kidney failure. The contributory cause was cardiac decompensation - heart failure - but the second word was divided into two words by the clerk. I appreciate all the help. Joseph -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!"

I deon't see the 1897 directory? On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Joseph Martin <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello Carolyn, > > The Newberry Library has searchable Chicago Directories online here. > > http://www.chicagoancestors.org/#tab-tools > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Carolyn Green <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Would someone be kind enough to check the 1897 Chicago City Directory for > > Elsa Lindenberg, page 2661. There should be a reference to Raschkowiak, > may > > be where she is employed. He is my g g grandfather. I find him and > family > > in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census but nothing earlier. > > Thanks for any help you can be. > > Carolyn > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just another opinion -- but re your question about how many people would be interested in seeing a "lay" person search for their roots, if the program was filmed by a good director and edited well, probably quite a lot of people would enjoy it. Remember after all, television is what you see on the show, not what actually is. A communications major, Bonnie > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:50:33 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Who do you think you are > > Diane, > > Since presumably we're all genealogists here, we'll need proof. ;-) What records did you see that led you to conclude Sarah Jessica Parker didn't pay for her own airline tickets? > > Yes Ancestry gets alot of my $$. But they also provide a service I can't get elsewhere. The millions of rolls of films, digitized documents, and search features didn't just drop from the sky into Ancestry's backyard. Their fees may be high, but remember churches and libraries all across the country are tossing records because they can't afford to film them or even store them. I appreciate the convenience of being able to do my research from home and I'm willing to pay for that convenience. Years ago I trekked all over kingdom-come for information that is now a keystroke away. > > I would love a weekly TV show that offered tips and techniques like what's offered on http://www.rootstelevision.com/ But even they ran into financial difficulties because so many people think everything should be free. > > How many people in the general population would have been interested in seeing a "lay person" search for their roots? My family is the one most interesting to me. But I loved seeing the thrill of the find in both episodes. It reminded me of those first exciting finds when I jumped up from a microfilm reader and yelled HOORAY!! > > If you aren't interested in the family history of "movie stars", change the channel. That's what's so great about America. We have lots of choices. > > Relatively speaking, > > Laura > > Searching for my TOLF ancestors and their descendants in Sweden and Illinois > http://livinginthepastlane.com, http://livinginthepastlane.blogspot.com/, http://twitter.com/itsallrelatives > > Volunteer for RAOGK at http://www.raogk.org/ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Diane Miskiewicz <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:13:53 AM > Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Who do you think you are > > Well I've watched both shows and have made my comments known to Ancestry. > > I mentioned to them I don't feel that these "movie stars" should be given special treatment and that if they wanted to know who they are they could have paid for it. I personally don't want to know where they came from. > > I also did mention that us "lay people" have put a lot of money into Ancestry with renewals etc and it would be wonderful if Ancestry would pick one person a month from all of us who have Ancestry and HELP US! > > Well I received a response from them stating that they would forward it to the publication department (which would be file 13). This is only my personal opinion and would like to know how everyone out there feels? Great publicity for ancestry but who puts into them every year is us. > > Diane > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2

As a note to all. I spotted this on the NARA website. They mentioned a website that I took as inferring a partner relationship with Footnote.com. You can browse for free the census records that they have online. Some census records show that they are only partially complete, but it looks like the complete sections are Chicago. The records are clean and crisp. You can print and download the images. (try downloading and then printing - it worked better for me) They also have many city directories, Chicago has 73 complete years. However, to see the city directory pages you need to subscribe. You can see these pages and everything else with a 7 day free subscription. $80 bucks a year or $11 per month thereafter. $11 sure beats traveling. I am not affiliated with them or anyone except my ancestors. Enjoy! Luke S. McGarry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Martin Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:49 PM To: Carolyn Green; Cook County Ill; Joseph Martin Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Chicago City Directory 1897 - Chicago Directoriesonline Hello Carolyn, The Newberry Library has searchable Chicago Directories online here. http://www.chicagoancestors.org/#tab-tools Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Carolyn Green <[email protected]> wrote: > Would someone be kind enough to check the 1897 Chicago City Directory for > Elsa Lindenberg, page 2661. There should be a reference to Raschkowiak, may > be where she is employed. He is my g g grandfather. I find him and family > in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census but nothing earlier. > Thanks for any help you can be. > Carolyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Carolyn, The Newberry Library has searchable Chicago Directories online here. http://www.chicagoancestors.org/#tab-tools Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Carolyn Green <[email protected]> wrote: > Would someone be kind enough to check the 1897 Chicago City Directory for > Elsa Lindenberg, page 2661. There should be a reference to Raschkowiak, may > be where she is employed. He is my g g grandfather. I find him and family > in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census but nothing earlier. > Thanks for any help you can be. > Carolyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!"

Would someone be kind enough to check the 1897 Chicago City Directory for Elsa Lindenberg, page 2661. There should be a reference to Raschkowiak, may be where she is employed. He is my g g grandfather. I find him and family in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census but nothing earlier. Thanks for any help you can be. Carolyn

Very many thanks to all the wonderful people who have helped me tremendously in my search for Elizabeth Franklin. I have learnt far more about her life in Illinois than I ever hoped for. Derek Bradshaw. England UK.

Thanks to all who answered my query about a school for the deaf. Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ

Joseph, I Googled the first term & it's a kidney disorder in which the spaces between the kidney tubules become swollen (inflamed), which can affect the kidneys' function. You can read more about it. The 2nd one I have no clue about. Sorry. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Martin" <[email protected]> To: "COOK-CO-IL" <[email protected]>, "Joseph Martin" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:29:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Need information - cardiac death Is there a doctor in the house?? I have a death certificate which indicates the cause of death was chronic interstitial nephritis. The contributory cause looks like "cardiac dumnin pussition," but I am sure that is not correct. Could anyone help with what that should be? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joseph: Please send me the scan, of the death certificate. --- On Fri, 3/19/10, Chris Bauman <[email protected]> wrote: From: Chris Bauman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Need information - cardiac death To: "Joseph Martin" <[email protected]> Cc: "COOK-CO-IL" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 5:46 PM Joseph, I Googled the first term & it's a kidney disorder in which the spaces between the kidney tubules become swollen (inflamed), which can affect the kidneys' function. You can read more about it. The 2nd one I have no clue about. Sorry. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Martin" <[email protected]> To: "COOK-CO-IL" <[email protected]>, "Joseph Martin" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:29:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Need information - cardiac death Is there a doctor in the house?? I have a death certificate which indicates the cause of death was chronic interstitial nephritis. The contributory cause looks like "cardiac dumnin pussition," but I am sure that is not correct. Could anyone help with what that should be? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Epheta School for the Deaf was turned into an All Girl's Catholic High School around 1950 - Madonna HS located on North Pulaski at Belmont Ave. I am a 1956 graduate. In a message dated 3/19/2010 9:15:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] rrfinancial.com writes: Correction in spelling: Epheta School for the Deaf. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Moro Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:56 PM To: [email protected]; Shirley Harlow Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 This might help, Ann Moro Ephpheta School for the Deaf, Chicago, Illinois --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> wrote: From: Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:38 PM My great-grandfather's brother, John BREE of Chicago, married Clara REGNIER of Aurora on May 27, 1908. He was 34 and she was 19 at the time. Both were deaf from early illnesses. John was born in Belgium and was a shoemaker by trade. Any ideas on whether there was a school or group for the deaf where they might have met? Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I got the spelling of the name on the web search and that is the correct spelling. --- On Fri, 3/19/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 11:08 AM Epheta School for the Deaf was turned into an All Girl's Catholic High School around 1950 - Madonna HS located on North Pulaski at Belmont Ave.  I am a 1956 graduate.   In a message dated 3/19/2010 9:15:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Correction in spelling:  Epheta School for the Deaf. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Moro Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:56 PM To: [email protected]; Shirley Harlow Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 This might help, Ann Moro    Ephpheta School for the Deaf, Chicago, Illinois --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> wrote: From: Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:38 PM My great-grandfather's brother, John BREE of Chicago, married Clara REGNIER of Aurora on May 27, 1908. He was 34 and she was 19 at the time. Both were deaf from early illnesses. John was born in Belgium and was a shoemaker by trade. Any ideas on whether there was a school or group for the deaf where they might have met? Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Correction in spelling: Epheta School for the Deaf. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Moro Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:56 PM To: [email protected]; Shirley Harlow Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 This might help, Ann Moro    Ephpheta School for the Deaf, Chicago, Illinois --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> wrote: From: Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:38 PM My great-grandfather's brother, John BREE of Chicago, married Clara REGNIER of Aurora on May 27, 1908. He was 34 and she was 19 at the time. Both were deaf from early illnesses. John was born in Belgium and was a shoemaker by trade. Any ideas on whether there was a school or group for the deaf where they might have met? Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a doctor in the house?? I have a death certificate which indicates the cause of death was chronic interstitial nephritis. The contributory cause looks like "cardiac dumnin pussition," but I am sure that is not correct. Could anyone help with what that should be? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!"

This might help, Ann Moro    Ephpheta School for the Deaf, Chicago, Illinois --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> wrote: From: Shirley Harlow <[email protected]> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] School or group for the deaf, c. 1908 To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:38 PM My great-grandfather's brother, John BREE of Chicago, married Clara REGNIER of Aurora on May 27, 1908. He was 34 and she was 19 at the time. Both were deaf from early illnesses. John was born in Belgium and was a shoemaker by trade. Any ideas on whether there was a school or group for the deaf where they might have met? Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message