Hi Katie, Do you have names for your Stroinsky/Strinsky/Stronsky families and perhaps ages. That would help in determining if I have the correct people or not. I do have a subscription to Ancestry and I will try to do a look up if I have the time. Sharon

That is a good idea. I've looked there before and just looked there again, but I've found my grandmother is not there either although one of her two brothers is there who was born in 1904. Are there any years where birth records and registers don't exist any more? Mary Snow wrote: > Did you check the familysearch pilot site for birth? It may not be > indexed yet. This is where early births can most often be found. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home > > Mary > > Michele wrote: > >> I'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been >> wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. >> Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I >> haven't been able to find her birth record. >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Everyone,   Many B,D,M were not recorded before 1906/16(?) - check the FAQ's at www.cookcountygenealogy.com for detailed information.   Also, this is still a work in progress - there are still records to be entered and I believe the county is still looking for volunteers.   Judie Mason Chicago --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Michele <[email protected]> wrote: From: Michele <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:25 AM I'm glad you asked the question.  It is an excellent site but I've been wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either.  Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I haven't been able to find her birth record. Michele [email protected] wrote: > Love the site:  http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/ > > > > However they do not have my great grandmother's record.  What can I do?? > > > > Name:  Cora Henderson > > died:  Chicago, Cook Co., IL > > buried:  05 May 1962 > > > I contacted cemetery (Restvale) & they gave me her burial date.  I knew she died in 1962 but I was just a little girl & can't remember the month or day.  I don't understand why she's not listed at above site.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Cemetery was nice enough to give me name of the Funeral Home, but they are not very nice & don't want to help me. > > > > Thanks for leads > > > > E. Stewart >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I haven't been able to find her birth record. Michele [email protected] wrote: > Love the site: http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/ > > > > However they do not have my great grandmother's record. What can I do?? > > > > Name: Cora Henderson > > died: Chicago, Cook Co., IL > > buried: 05 May 1962 > > > I contacted cemetery (Restvale) & they gave me her burial date. I knew she died in 1962 but I was just a little girl & can't remember the month or day. I don't understand why she's not listed at above site. Has anyone else had this problem? Cemetery was nice enough to give me name of the Funeral Home, but they are not very nice & don't want to help me. > > > > Thanks for leads > > > > E. Stewart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What Funeral Home was at Linden Ave & Tower Rd, Hubbard Woods, Ill in 1942? I tried searching in Hubbard Woods & Winnetka. Only one that comes up for Hubbard Woods is W W Jackson BUT that was opened in 1994. I am seeking records for this Funeral Home. Thank you, Kathy

Cooksters, For those who have access, please help me with Wisconsin census reports 1865-1895 and US Census 1860-1880 for any Stroinsky/Strinsky/Stronsky families in the Shawano or Waupaca, Wisconsin counties. Thanks! Katie Brown

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Ned BAUGHN which was taken at the Brand Studio in Chicago, Illinois. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Ned likely in his 30's or 40's at the time it was taken. In addition to his name, someone has written, "Brother of Mrs. N. W. BLISS" and "My Great Uncle" on the back of the photograph. I am hoping to locate someone from his family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of his family. If you are a member of this BAUGHN Family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hi All, I was hoping that one of you Cooksters could help me out with a problem on FTM 2010.  I have an individual who has parents attached that are not his. They are someone else's parents in my tree, however, they are not showing up on the duplicate list.  I am afraid to detach them and their children or delete them because I don't know what it will do to the other parents.  Any suggestions? Joy

go to this site, it will tell you the church you are looking for and will list any other church in Chicago along with their ethnicity,  Ann Moro   POINTers In Person Chicago-North Chapter #27 Home Page Chicago-North suburban chapter of PIP. Formed in 2001 to increase interaction among Italian genealogists. www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~itappcnc/index.htm - 76k - Cached --- On Sun, 7/18/10, Barb Pardol <[email protected]> wrote: From: Barb Pardol <[email protected]> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Chicago Church To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 1:38 PM Does anyone know what Italian Catholic Church would have been located near 909 Grand Avenue in 1912?   Thanks, Barb P. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know what Italian Catholic Church would have been located near 909 Grand Avenue in 1912?   Thanks, Barb P.

Fred, Do you have access to Heritage Quest thru your local library? If you do, you can often see images. It's free online. I haven't always found what I'm looking for, but at least 50%. Their images aren't as spruced up as Ancestry's are beginning to be, but if you don't have access to Ancestry, it's the next best thing. Ancestry's image would probably clear up the Higgs-Nicks problem. I have access to Ancestry. Would you like me to look him up for you and send the image to you off-list? Tell me the exact name you're looking for--was the name you want Higgs or Nicks? And the age you think he was in 1920. The place in Chicago is clear from what Kate sent you. I've found some people whose ages are way off from census to census. As are places of birth, etc. And this is for census data as recent as what you're looking at. I had one gg uncle who "ran away from home" between the 1880 census and 1891, when we have a letter he wrote from NM. In the 1900 - 1930 He always said he was b. in LA (state) and his father in France. I have a Bible and many other records, including census records, showing he was b. in IL and his father in NY. And his birth year varied greatly in the census in NM, but was around the year of a dead half-brother born 10 years before he was. These discrepancies went on until the 1930 census. His descdeandant and I have yet to figure out why. All that is why census data is secondary data, not primary data. Use it to hunt down primary data, like the cemetery records. I've seen a few errors there, but many many fewer. Doris ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Fred" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: COOK-CO-List COOK-CO-List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] well, what did you think about the 1920 census I sent to you?? Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:41:14 +0100 Hi, Kate, Thank you for all of this. I will get my son-in-laws parents to phone Mt Auburn - they live in Minneapolis. Presumably you are suggesting the child would have been buried with its grandmother? Re. the 1920 Not sure about the 'Nicks' interpretation as Higgs ---- 1. My Fred's father is born England, not Illinois. 2. Fred was born Bristol, England, not Illinois 3. In 1930, Irene gives age as 36, so only 26 in 1920, not 34 . and gives Father born Ohio, not Kentucky I would need to see original for transcription error. But still, I am exceedingly grateful for the trouble you have taken to search this one out for me. Best regards Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: well, what did you think about the 1920 census I sent to you?? ----- Forwarded by Kate Miller/ILND/07/USCOURTS on 07/15/2010 08:56 AM ----- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:53:37 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Higgs To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]l.uscourts.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Phone Mt. Auburn and ask who else is buried with Eliz Parsons Higgs. She died about the time the child died ... not many rules as to how many in graves in those days. Mount Auburn, 4101 Oak Park AVe., Stickney IL 60402 ( 708 749 2033) 1920 Census Address: 1235 W. Madison Street, Chicago, IL - Fred is a painter at a foundry. So must have lost a child between 1917-1920 .... ? Only two candidates in that timeframe in Cook Co: HIGGS MARIA F/N UNK 6015446 1919-05-18 COOK CHICAGO 19-05-20 HIGGS MARY A F/W UNK 6018557 1917-06-05 COOK CHICAGO 17-06-05 Name: Fred Nicks [Fred Hicks] Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 18, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Lodger Spouse's name: Irene Father's Birth Place: Illinois Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Name: Irene Nicks [Irene Hicks] Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 18, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: Fred Father's Birth Place: Kentucky Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky Marital Status: Married Household Members: Name Age Jos Levenson 36 Dorthy Levenson 26 Fred Nicks 30 Irene Nicks 34 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ TODAY: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 80% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c3f91ce6f4a62c6d2est05vuc

Hi, Kate, Thank you for all of this. I will get my son-in-laws parents to phone Mt Auburn - they live in Minneapolis. Presumably you are suggesting the child would have been buried with its grandmother? Re. the 1920 Not sure about the 'Nicks' interpretation as Higgs ---- 1. My Fred's father is born England, not Illinois. 2. Fred was born Bristol, England, not Illinois 3. In 1930, Irene gives age as 36, so only 26 in 1920, not 34 . and gives Father born Ohio, not Kentucky I would need to see original for transcription error. But still, I am exceedingly grateful for the trouble you have taken to search this one out for me. Best regards Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: well, what did you think about the 1920 census I sent to you?? ----- Forwarded by Kate Miller/ILND/07/USCOURTS on 07/15/2010 08:56 AM ----- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:53:37 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Higgs To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]l.uscourts.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Phone Mt. Auburn and ask who else is buried with Eliz Parsons Higgs. She died about the time the child died ... not many rules as to how many in graves in those days. Mount Auburn, 4101 Oak Park AVe., Stickney IL 60402 ( 708 749 2033) 1920 Census Address: 1235 W. Madison Street, Chicago, IL - Fred is a painter at a foundry. So must have lost a child between 1917-1920 .... ? Only two candidates in that timeframe in Cook Co: HIGGS MARIA F/N UNK 6015446 1919-05-18 COOK CHICAGO 19-05-20 HIGGS MARY A F/W UNK 6018557 1917-06-05 COOK CHICAGO 17-06-05 Name: Fred Nicks [Fred Hicks] Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 18, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Lodger Spouse's name: Irene Father's Birth Place: Illinois Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Name: Irene Nicks [Irene Hicks] Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 18, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: Fred Father's Birth Place: Kentucky Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky Marital Status: Married Household Members: Name Age Jos Levenson 36 Dorthy Levenson 26 Fred Nicks 30 Irene Nicks 34

Hi Fred; Actually they weren't bad for the time--I've seen a lot worse in my family. Even in the 1950's when I was growing up in Chicago, my extended family rented for the most part and moved fairly often. The general trend seems to have been for the wealthy to buy and stay put. Those not so blessed rented and tended to move to "better" digs whenever the opportunity arose. BTW: Though "itchy feet" works fine for a native Chicagoan like myself, the local idiom here in Maryland would describe them as having "sand in their shoes." Cheers, Masugu [email protected]

Thanks, Masugu. I did have the 1891, but directories are interesting. They certainly had itchy feet. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Masugu To: COOK-CO-List COOK-CO-List ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] HIGGS FREDERICK GEORGE b 1888 Hi Fred; I'm afraid I'm not gonna be a lot of help but I did pick up a few tidbits of data--see below. Cheers, Masugu [email protected] 1891 England Census Name: Frederick G Higgs Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick T Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Municipal Borough: Bristol Municipal Ward: Radcliffe Urban Sanitary Dist.: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas Parliamentary Div: Bristol South County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 1 Victoria ??? Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 54 Household Members: Frederick T Higgs Head M Md 28 Glass beveller Weston s Mere Elizabeth Higgs Wife F Md 22 - Bristol Frederick G Higgs Son M S 2 - Bristol Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1986; Folio 122; Page 14; GSU roll: 6097096. Footnote.com Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois Official Directory & Market Guide...of the Chicago Association of Commerce State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1908 Publisher: Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 1107 Frederick Higgs, painter, h. 5 Cottage Pl. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1909 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1909 Publisher: Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 1103 Frederick Higgs, painter, h. 5 Cottage Pl. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1911 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1911 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 619 Frederick G. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Frederick T. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1912 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1912 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 634 Frederick G. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Frederick T. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1913 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1913 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 615 Frederick T. Higgs, painter, h. 225 Throop Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1915 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1915 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 730 Frederick Higgs, painter, 1126 W. Jackson Blvd. George Higgs, painter, 1126 W. Jackson Blvd.

ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATES FOR ILLINOIS ADOPTEES July 2010 ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATES FOR ILLINOIS ADOPTEES is a monthly eNewsletter bringing you all the news that's fit to print from the Land of Lincoln. We are a voice for the Illinois Open Organization, <about:blank> www.ILOpen.org ILLINOIS OPEN MISSION STATEMENT It is the civil and human right of ALL ADOPTED ADULTS to have access to their original birth records unconditionally and free from falsification. Our goal is to challenge Illinois legislators to restore this civil and human right to all adopted men and women. We will not support legislation that places any restrictions on the rights of all adopted adults' access to their obc's. It is not our primary goal to be a search organization. We are independent of any other group. MAKING A DIFFERENCE 101 The following is the 3rd part of a series informing you as to how you can become involved or help others to join us. Don't Hesitate to Explain Adoption Reform Illinois' fiscal crisis and the economy seem to be the major topics among candidates. But even in the past it has not been common to hear adoption reform mentioned. One reason could be that many running for office are not aware that adopted adults don't have access to their original birth certificate like those not adopted. The legislators running for reelection might recall IL HB 5428 and that it was signed into law by Governor Quinn. So their thought could be that now adoptees are being treated just like everyone else. If you encounter this while talking to a candidate, you need to explain that the law did not go far enough. Only those born prior to 1/1/46 have access to their original birth certificate with no strings attached. We want equality for all and we want legislators who will help us out. But don't stop with talking to candidates because the general public needs to be educated too. What the media reported about the new law was very misleading and it is up to us to make it known. Who knows better than us? Adoption reform is a controversial subject so it is not always easy to bring it up but we must do it. If someone is not open minded about it, give them time to digest what you have said and then approach them again at a later date. By all means don't give up! THE CONFIDENTIAL INTERMEDIARY LAW RULES SUPREME Confidential Intermediary = CI Original birth certificate = OBC Our current CI law has a goal of helping adoptees to search and find birth parents while at the same time "protecting" birth parents by withholding all identifying information about them until they are found and they can fill out a preference form about having contact with their adoptee. Only if a "found" birth mother consents to contact will there be any information exchanged. The overriding rule governing the entire CI system is that no identifying information will ever be issued to any adoptee UNLESS THE BIRTH MOTHER CONSENTS, Sound familiar? This situation oozes with irony. Adoptees with obcs in hand will come to the CI program. However, once they sign up to use the CI system, the adoptee will not be entitled to ANY IDENTIFYING INFORMATION gathered by the CI's before (when the CI's secure the adoption records from the state), during and/or after the search. Even with your own obc in hand, if you select the CI system to help you search, you are right back where you started from. The state will withhold ALL information gathered by the CI's in order to "protect" a birth mother's anonymity. At the conclusion of all CI searches, no matter the outcome, all of the information that the CI's have gathered about you along the way will go straight into a CI file and will never be released to you. I know because I tried to get this information. Any searching adoptee will tell you that there is no clue too small to be considered. Ninety-nine people can look at a set of facts and reach the same conclusion. Then along comes one other person who uses the same raw data but looks at it in a totally different light and draws a different conclusion. I wanted to look at all of the raw data gathered by my CI's. Maybe I could be that hundredth person. So in April 2001 I wrote to Nancy Golden, one of the owners of Midwest Adoption Agency and my CI, requesting a copy of my confidential intermediary file. I received a letter back from Kathleen Hogan Morrison, Attorney for Midwest Adoption Agency. It was her legal opinion that the Illinois CI law does not permit CIs to ever release any data that they collect during a search. Attorney Morrison referred me to the section of the CI law that states that any CI who improperly discloses information identifying a birth parent shall be “liable to the birth parent for damages and may also be found in contempt of court.” She continued to site the law, which says: “(2) Any person who learns a birth parent’s identity, directly or indirectly, through the use of procedures provided in this Section and who improperly discloses information identifying the birth parent shall be liable to the birth parent for actual damages plus minimum punitive damages of $10,000.” [750 ILCS 50/18.3a.) (Emphasis is Attorney Morrison’s) Ms. Morrison concluded her letter with this paragraph: “Ms. Field is incorrect in her assertion that ‘the legal barrier of confidentiality has been lifted.’ In fact, confidentiality continues. Neither Midwest Adoption Center nor any Confidential Intermediary has the right to share identifying information about other people, which may or may not be in the Confidential Intermediary file. The prohibitions and sanctions set forth in Sections 18.3 (a) are intact. The Confidential Intermediary file may not be released to Ms. Field.” [Emphasis is mine] If you choose to use the state-run Confidential Intermediary Program, you are right back where you started from. The state allows your birth mother to have the final word. IllinoisOpen.Org: Anita Walker Field, Skokie, IL Mary Lynn Fuller, Urbana, IL We are volunteers and do not ask for nor receive donations. There is no membership fee. Illinois Open should NOT be confused with Adoption Reform Illinois or Green Ribbon Campaign. Please forward as far and as wide as possible! To subscribe to this monthly eNewsletter just send an email to [email protected] <about:blank> .

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Phone Mt. Auburn and ask who else is buried with Eliz Parsons Higgs. She died about the time the child died ... not many rules as to how many in graves in those days. Mount Auburn, 4101 Oak Park AVe., Stickney IL 60402 ( 708 749 2033) 1920 Census Address: 1235 W. Madison Street, Chicago, IL - Fred is a painter at a foundry. So must have lost a child between 1917-1920 .... ? Only two candidates in that timeframe in Cook Co: HIGGS MARIA F/N UNK 6015446 1919-05-18 COOK CHICAGO 19-05-20 HIGGS MARY A F/W UNK 6018557 1917-06-05 COOK CHICAGO 17-06-05 Name: Fred Nicks [Fred Hicks] Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 18, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Lodger Spouse's name: Irene Father's Birth Place: Illinois Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Name: Irene Nicks [Irene Hicks] Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 18, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: Fred Father's Birth Place: Kentucky Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jos Levenson 36 Dorthy Levenson 26 Fred Nicks 30 Irene Nicks 34 Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] HIGGS FREDERICK GEORGE b 1888 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi everyone, from a wet Somerset UK. (at long last, some welcome rain.....) My Father's aunt Elizabeth Parsons emigrated to Chicago in 1906. Other very kind seekers have given me much valuable assistance in providing the details shown below. The WW1 Draft registration shows that her son FREDERICK GEORGE HIGGS had at least one child. Sadly no one has been able to find the family in the 1920, so I have no identity for that child or even if he/she survived infancy. My son-in-law is obtaining the 3 death certificates to see if they help. Can any one else please help in identifying this child (who would be my second cousin) and if he/she survived to possibly have a family of their own? Many thanks, Fred Boulton 6. Elizabeth Parsons was born in Dec 1867 in Clifton. She died on 19 Aug 1915 in Chicago, USA. She was buried on 22 Aug 1915 in Chicago, USA. Probable death entry Illinois death records as Lily Elizabeth Higgs; Informant F. T. Higgs. Gives dob as 22 Aug 1868 (possibly 1 year out) and father as William Parsons. Address at time 1447, West Madison st, Chicago, buried at Mt Auburn. Elizabeth married Frederick Thomas Higgs in Sep 1886 in Barton Regis. Frederick was born in 1862 in Weston-s-mare. He died on 29 Oct 1929 in Chicago, USA. 1905 Probably the Higgs family travelling 11 April Liverpool to St John's New Brunswick, aboard SS Lake Manitoba. Fred. T. Higgs, 42, Decorator, Mrs T. Higgs, 36, Fred G. Higgs, 16. 1906 May 31st Detroit Border Crossings shows Fred aged 43, accompanied by wife Elizabeth, son F. George, having landed St John, 25 Apr, 1905 aboard SS Lake Manitoba, en route for Chicago; last permanent address, Weston-s-mare. He is a Painter-Decorator. Census 1920 At 1320, Jackson Blvd, Chicago. [Fred Sr.] Lodging with a Kathrine Hart. He is a widower, employed on own account as a Painter, keeping a shop. Arrived US 1904, naturalised 1910. 1929 Death entry Illinois death index 6030494. He died on the 3rd day of the infamous 1929 Wall Street Crash, Black Tuesday (see Wikipedia), very possibly through suicide or shock. Son Frederick died the following March. Frederick and Elizabeth had the following children: 11 M i. Frederick George Higgs was born on 3 Oct 1888 in Bristol. He died on 24 Mar 1930 in Chicago, USA. 1906 May 31st. Entered USA via Detroit, having landed St John, 25 Apr 1905 aboard SS Lake Manitoba, en route for Chicago. Gives last permanent address as Weston-s-mare, England. Marriage entry Illinois Cook County marriages, 1030, ref 639661. ~World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Frederick George Higgs Name: Frederick George Higgs City: Chicago County: Cook State: Illinois 329 S.Wineherter?, Chicago, IL Birthplace: Bristol, England alien Birth Date: 3 Oct 1888 Race: Caucasian (White) FHL Roll Number: 1613516 DraftBoard: 41 Age: 29 Occupation: painter for Wm. T. Batdorfe, 2000 W. Monroe St. Married with wife and child Height/Build: short/slender Color of Eyes/Hair: brown, dark Signature: View image Source Citation: Registration Location: Cook County, Illinois; Roll 1613516; Draft Board: 41. June 5, 1917 Probable death entry Illinois Death Index, entry 0160691 Frederick married Irene Hoffman on 29 Aug 1913 in Chicago, USA. Irene was born in 1891 in Illinois. She died on 20 Sep 1936 in Chicago, USA. Census 1930 At Chicago, lodging with Ollie Solna, a Cashier in restaurant, still married, but no husband listed. Father born Ohio, Mother born Kentucky, Gives age as 36.

Hi Fred; I'm afraid I'm not gonna be a lot of help but I did pick up a few tidbits of data--see below. Cheers, Masugu [email protected] 1891 England Census Name: Frederick G Higgs Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick T Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Municipal Borough: Bristol Municipal Ward: Radcliffe Urban Sanitary Dist.: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas Parliamentary Div: Bristol South County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 1 Victoria ??? Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 54 Household Members: Frederick T Higgs Head M Md 28 Glass beveller Weston s Mere Elizabeth Higgs Wife F Md 22 - Bristol Frederick G Higgs Son M S 2 - Bristol Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1986; Folio 122; Page 14; GSU roll: 6097096. Footnote.com Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois Official Directory & Market Guide...of the Chicago Association of Commerce State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1908 Publisher: Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 1107 Frederick Higgs, painter, h. 5 Cottage Pl. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1909 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1909 Publisher: Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 1103 Frederick Higgs, painter, h. 5 Cottage Pl. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1911 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1911 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 619 Frederick G. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Frederick T. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1912 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1912 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 634 Frederick G. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Frederick T. Higgs, painter, h. 207 S. Centre Ave. Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1913 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1913 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 615 Frederick T. Higgs, painter, h. 225 Throop Publication Title: City Directories for Chicago, Illinois The Lakeside Annual Directory of the City of Chicago, 1915 State: Illinois City: Chicago Year: 1915 Publisher: The Chicago Directory Company Page Number: 730 Frederick Higgs, painter, 1126 W. Jackson Blvd. George Higgs, painter, 1126 W. Jackson Blvd.

What sources did you use to discover you 'prison inmate ancestor in New York'? What sources did you use to discover his whole story? Thanks for sharing how you did your research. Susanne In a message dated 7/14/2010 3:29:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Not that I have any prison inmates who died in Chicago area, but I just wanted to let people know that I also have deceased prison inmate ancestor in New York. I have managed to dig up virtually his whole story from the time he was arrested until the time he died at Sing Sing.?? Quite interesting!? John Dvorak

Here are the addresses of some of the locations that have the ssdi on line available at no charge: http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ssdi/search_ssdi.asp&clear_form=true This one at genealogybank.com is updated weekly http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/ http://www.newenglandancestors.org/database_search/ssdi.asp You can also use the one stop page at stevemorse.org http://www.stevemorse.org/ssdi/ssdi.html It will search all the online SSDI's at once. Lisa [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene Fallon" <[email protected]> To: "Ann Moro" <[email protected]>; "Cook County Ill" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Death of a Prisoner > Whats the address? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Moro" <[email protected]> > To: "arleen gould" <[email protected]>; "Ruth Susmarski" > <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Death of a Prisoner > > >> ALSO, look at ssdi rootsweb ancestry, >> free ssdi rootsweb >> >> --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Ruth Susmarski <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: Ruth Susmarski <[email protected]> >> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Death of a Prisoner >> To: "arleen gould" <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:51 AM >> >> >> Right, Arleen. I've noticed the inconsistencies, as well. >> >> Another SSDI source is through FamilySearch...this link will take you to >> the Search Page: >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ssdi/search_ssdi.asp&clear_form=true >> >> Ruth >> >> --- On Fri, 7/9/10, arleen gould <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: arleen gould <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Death of a Prisoner >> To: "Lisa Lepore" <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 6:16 PM >> >> >> Don't just rely on the SSDI that is on ancestry. My friend's brother >> died and he has never been listed there but we looked at footnote.com >> and found all the info. >> Ar >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Lisa Lepore <[email protected]> wrote: >>> There's no doubt the SSDI is missing a lot of people. I'm sure there are >>> transciption errors, and missing batches of data that were not input >>> correctly, >>> just like every other database. >>> >>> But, I was trying to point out that technically, it should appear there, >>> once >>> the person was reported to have died. If the person is not there it is >>> more >>> likely due to an error, rather than the fact that the person in question >>> is/was >>> a death row inmate. >>> >>> Unfortunately the SSDI is far from perfect. >>> >>> Lisa >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message