Cooksters: I am requesting help with name possibilities for German/Polish Christian surnames. Family notes indicate two surnames that I cannot find probable matches, Cohane and Yeshic. Any suggestions? Katie

My grandfather was born the same year. No luck finding his birth record, not even by searching only on surname, so I think it may not have been recorded. Beth Gatlin -----Original Message----- From: Gail Rutkowski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:44 am Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Birth Records My mother was born in 1910 is not listed on the Cook County or Family Search ites either. In her records, I learned that it was never recorded until he went to apply for retirement in 1975 and she had to use her baptismal ertificate to prove her age. The same was true for my father-in-law, his irth was never recorded. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I also was at a loss until the FAMILY SEARCH PILOT website came on.  Found out the mother who we always knew had the name Elsie was, at birth, named Mary by her mother and father in 1915. Showed up with me just typing in the last name. My sister and I surprised.  In fact, I said remember when mom tried to get her birth certificate from Cook County (to get a passport to go to Ireland)they couldn't find "Elsie". Goes to show if they didn't like the name Mary that they named her let's just change it to Elsie - without ever doing it legally. I guess it keeps people on their toes while doing genealogy.  Happy Hunting everyone.   Diane

Gail and everyone,   Did you know the LDS has a filmed index of delayed births.....births recorded usually when a person needed identification or to proove age for social security?   Judie Mason --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Gail Rutkowski <[email protected]> wrote: From: Gail Rutkowski <[email protected]> Subject: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Birth Records To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 8:44 AM My mother was born in 1910 is not listed on the Cook County or Family Search sites either.  In her records, I learned that it was never recorded until she went to apply for retirement in 1975 and she had to use her baptismal certificate to prove her age.  The same was true for my father-in-law, his birth was never recorded. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh no! The headstones were removed? Sorry to hear that...and that may be bad news for me too. I have a family Bible record with the names and death dates of three "mystery people" who must have been relatives, since they were listed and the surname is one of the family surnames. Unfortunately no birth dates were given. They were buried at Graceland; the family record even gives the grave locations. These people died in the 1860s, so death records will not be available. I suspect they may be children that died young, but I don't know for sure. One person had the same name as the father of an immigrant ancestor, but I don't know if the father came over and died in Chicago, or if a son or brother was named after him. I'm hoping that the graves at Graceland will have headstones that include birth dates for these people, because I would like to figure out who they were. Beth Gatlin -----Original Message----- From: Pentlands <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record Hi Beth Oh boy! Am I familiar with what you say? I have an ancestor ticked on the Census as a male under 10 yrs of age. The bairn died and was listed as 'male child' on the cemetery plans. It even gave exactly how old he was, 3 yrs. 3 mnths. and so many days. I could then work out his exact dob but still there was no name. We travelled to Chicago from England to see the grave at Gracelands. The staff there had been wonderful with help. Unfortunately the headstones had all been removed from each 2nd row to allow access for the lawnmower, so still I have no name. I took a photograph of a stone inset with a number on it. Sheila KC A Scot in England. [email protected] wrote: > I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there on her side than on his side.) > > Beth Gatlin > > >

My mother was born in 1910 is not listed on the Cook County or Family Search sites either. In her records, I learned that it was never recorded until she went to apply for retirement in 1975 and she had to use her baptismal certificate to prove her age. The same was true for my father-in-law, his birth was never recorded.

Hi Kathy, The most recent thing I can find is that it was there as late as August 1969, and at that time it was called the Robert V. Wilson Chapel. Hope someone will remember it now. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Fuhrman" <[email protected]> > What Funeral Home was at Linden Ave & Tower Rd, Hubbard Woods, Ill in > 1942? > I tried searching in Hubbard Woods & Winnetka. Only one that comes up for > Hubbard Woods is W W Jackson BUT that was opened in 1994. > > > > I am seeking records for this Funeral Home. > > Thank you, Kathy > >

Hi Kathy, I thought it might help to look in the newspaper, but unfortunately, I found several obituaries which said "resting at Funeral Home Linden Ave & Tower Rd" Perhaps it was a well known place, and someone here will know the name. You might try calling the home you found - they may know the name of the one you are looking for. Also, try the library. I'll let you know if I find anything else. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Fuhrman" <[email protected]> > What Funeral Home was at Linden Ave & Tower Rd, Hubbard Woods, Ill in > 1942? > I tried searching in Hubbard Woods & Winnetka. Only one that comes up for > Hubbard Woods is W W Jackson BUT that was opened in 1994. > > > > I am seeking records for this Funeral Home. > > Thank you, Kathy >

Thank you Lisa. Since the Funeral Home seems to be defunct now I can pretty much say goodbye to acquiring info from the homes records. I was so hoping those records would help us in clearing up some confusion on our one line. Thank you, Kathy From: Lisa Lepore [mailto:[email protected]] Hi Kathy, The most recent thing I can find is that it was there as late as August 1969, and at that time it was called the Robert V. Wilson Chapel. Hope someone will remember it now. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Fuhrman" <[email protected]> > What Funeral Home was at Linden Ave & Tower Rd, Hubbard Woods, Ill in > 1942? > I tried searching in Hubbard Woods & Winnetka. Only one that comes up for > Hubbard Woods is W W Jackson BUT that was opened in 1994. > > > > I am seeking records for this Funeral Home. > > Thank you, Kathy

I have found relatives on the family search pilot with the name baby or girl or boy and sometimes nothing. However, I knew the year of birth and it did have the right parents names and maiden names. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:56:22 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there on her side than on his side.) Beth Gatlin -----Original Message----- From: Judith Mason <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45 pm Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record Hello Everyone, any B,D,M were not recorded before 1906/16(?) - check the FAQ's at ww.cookcountygenealogy.com for detailed information. lso, this is still a work in progress - there are still records to be entered nd I believe the county is still looking for volunteers. udie Mason hicago --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Michele <[email protected]> wrote: rom: Michele <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record o: [email protected] c: [email protected] ate: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:25 AM 'm glad you asked the question.  It is an excellent site but I've been ondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either.   verything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I aven't been able to find her birth record. Michele [email protected] wrote:  Love the site:  http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/  However they do not have my great grandmother's record.  What can I do??  Name:  Cora Henderson  died:  Chicago, Cook Co., IL  buried:  05 May 1962  I contacted cemetery (Restvale) & they gave me her burial date.  I knew she ied in 1962 but I was just a little girl & can't remember the month or day.  I on't understand why she's not listed at above site.  Has anyone else had this roblem?  Cemetery was nice enough to give me name of the Funeral Home, but they re not very nice & don't want to help me.  Thanks for leads  E. Stewart     -------------------------------  To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Beth Oh boy! Am I familiar with what you say? I have an ancestor ticked on the Census as a male under 10 yrs of age. The bairn died and was listed as 'male child' on the cemetery plans. It even gave exactly how old he was, 3 yrs. 3 mnths. and so many days. I could then work out his exact dob but still there was no name. We travelled to Chicago from England to see the grave at Gracelands. The staff there had been wonderful with help. Unfortunately the headstones had all been removed from each 2nd row to allow access for the lawnmower, so still I have no name. I took a photograph of a stone inset with a number on it. Sheila KC A Scot in England. [email protected] wrote: > I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there on her side than on his side.) > > Beth Gatlin > > >

Hundreds of volunteers are indexing and verifying information. Everyone is free to volunteer. Information about volunteering to help with the project is available at the pilot site. http://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/nuhome.jsf?3.6.2 You can contact the Cook County Clerk's office to ask about the birth certificate you seek. Cook County Clerk David Orr Bureau of Vital Records - Genealogy P.O. Box 642570 Chicago, IL 60664-2570 There is an email form you can use. http://cookcountygenealogy.com/RecordInfo.aspx Mary [email protected] wrote: > I also have had trouble finding my mother's birth certificate from 1915 > whereas I found her siblings. Hope they get their act together soon. >

I also have had trouble finding my mother's birth certificate from 1915 whereas I found her siblings. Hope they get their act together soon. Have a super evening everyone. Nancy - Lisle, IL In a message dated 7/19/2010 9:41:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Sorry, I intended this to go to the Cook list, but only sent to Marge Yetzke. Judie --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Judith Mason <[email protected]> wrote: From: Judith Mason <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Birth Record To: "Marge Yetzke" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:33 PM Hi Again, I think it's worth reapeating that both websites that have been mentioned are works in progress and do not have all data entered. Also, prior to 1916 vital records were not required to be recorded and a huge number were not - delivery by a doctor or midwife made no difference. The Cook County Birth Index films are available on film/fiche at the LDS Family History Centers and many public libraries.........Newberry and possibly Arlington Hts. Memorial. Good luck searching! Judie Mason Chicago --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Marge Yetzke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marge Yetzke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Birth Record To: "Michele" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:24 PM I have the same problem finding my mother's birth in 1905 Cook County? Also not on FamilySearch Ruth Marie Muesbeck On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Michele <[email protected]> wrote: > That is a good idea. I've looked there before and just looked there > again, but I've found my grandmother is not there either although one of > her two brothers is there who was born in 1904. Are there any years > where birth records and registers don't exist any more? > > Mary Snow wrote: > > Did you check the familysearch pilot site for birth? It may not be > > indexed yet. This is where early births can most often be found. > > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home > > > > Mary > > > > Michele wrote: > > > >> I'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been > >> wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. > >> Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I > >> haven't been able to find her birth record. > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the same problem finding my mother's birth in 1905 Cook County? Also not on FamilySearch Ruth Marie Muesbeck On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Michele <[email protected]> wrote: > That is a good idea. I've looked there before and just looked there > again, but I've found my grandmother is not there either although one of > her two brothers is there who was born in 1904. Are there any years > where birth records and registers don't exist any more? > > Mary Snow wrote: > > Did you check the familysearch pilot site for birth? It may not be > > indexed yet. This is where early births can most often be found. > > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home > > > > Mary > > > > Michele wrote: > > > >> I'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been > >> wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. > >> Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I > >> haven't been able to find her birth record. > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have found a number of Chicago birth records for which no first name was entered. I found them by searching for the parent's names. This might be an explanation for a missing birth record. Jerry I'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been > wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. > Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I > haven't been able to find her birth record. > > Michele

Sorry, I intended this to go to the Cook list, but only sent to Marge Yetzke.   Judie --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Judith Mason <[email protected]> wrote: From: Judith Mason <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Birth Record To: "Marge Yetzke" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:33 PM Hi Again,   I think it's worth reapeating that both websites that have been mentioned are works in progress and do not have all data entered.  Also, prior to 1916 vital records were not required to be recorded and a huge number were not - delivery by a doctor or midwife made no difference.   The Cook County Birth Index films are available on film/fiche at the LDS Family History Centers and many public libraries.........Newberry and possibly Arlington Hts. Memorial.   Good luck searching!   Judie Mason Chicago --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Marge Yetzke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marge Yetzke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Birth Record To: "Michele" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:24 PM I have the same problem finding my mother's birth in 1905 Cook County?  Also not on FamilySearch  Ruth Marie Muesbeck On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Michele <[email protected]> wrote: > That is a good idea.  I've looked there before and just looked there > again, but I've found my grandmother is not there either although one of > her two brothers is there who was born in 1904.  Are there any years > where birth records and registers don't exist any more? > > Mary Snow wrote: > > Did you check the familysearch pilot site for birth?  It may not be > > indexed yet.  This is where early births can most often be found. > > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home > > > > Mary > > > > Michele wrote: > > > >> I'm glad you asked the question.  It is an excellent site but I've been > >> wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. > >> Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I > >> haven't been able to find her birth record. > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Beth and Sheila, Could recording a birth be dependent on whether or not the birth had a midwife or doctor?  I think they did the registering.  If the child were born without a doctor/midwife, could be no record was made.  There may be a church record of a baptism somewhere.  Or a mention in the Trib Archives?  Just my thoughts on why there may be no record. Why not try again and ask the list?  Could be there are new sites or new people on the list who might have insights. Patti ________________________________ From: Pentlands <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record Hi Beth Oh boy! Am I familiar with what you say? I have an ancestor ticked on the Census as a male under 10 yrs of age. The bairn died and was listed as 'male child' on the cemetery plans. It even gave exactly how old he was, 3 yrs. 3 mnths. and so many days. I could then work out his exact dob but still there was no name. We travelled to Chicago from England to see the grave at Gracelands. The staff there had been wonderful with help. Unfortunately the headstones had all been removed from each 2nd row to allow access for the lawnmower, so still I have no name. I took a photograph of a stone inset with a number on it. Sheila KC A Scot in England. [email protected] wrote: > I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she >was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's >name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and >they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side >of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there >on her side than on his side.) > > Beth Gatlin > > >  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Love the site:  http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/ However they do not have my great grandmother's record.  What can I do?? Name:  Cora Henderson died:  Chicago, Cook Co., IL buried:  05 May 1962 I contacted cemetery (Restvale) & they gave me her burial date.  I knew she died in 1962 but I was just a little girl & can't remember the month or day.  I don't understand why she's not listed at above site.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Cemetery was nice enough to give me name of the Funeral Home, but they are not very nice & don't want to help me. Thanks for leads E. Stewart

I found my grandmother's birth record on the FamilySearch pilot site, but she was listed as "baby;" apparently not all of those birth records give the child's name! No luck finding my grandfather's, though. Both were born in Chicago, and they were close in age. From what I've found it looks like my grandmother's side of the family was better about vital registration! (I've found much more there on her side than on his side.) Beth Gatlin -----Original Message----- From: Judith Mason <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45 pm Subject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record Hello Everyone, any B,D,M were not recorded before 1906/16(?) - check the FAQ's at ww.cookcountygenealogy.com for detailed information. lso, this is still a work in progress - there are still records to be entered nd I believe the county is still looking for volunteers. udie Mason hicago --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Michele <[email protected]> wrote: rom: Michele <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [COOK-CO-IL] Missing Death Record o: [email protected] c: [email protected] ate: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:25 AM 'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been ondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. verything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I aven't been able to find her birth record. Michele [email protected] wrote: Love the site: http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/ However they do not have my great grandmother's record. What can I do?? Name: Cora Henderson died: Chicago, Cook Co., IL buried: 05 May 1962 I contacted cemetery (Restvale) & they gave me her burial date. I knew she ied in 1962 but I was just a little girl & can't remember the month or day. I on't understand why she's not listed at above site. Has anyone else had this roblem? Cemetery was nice enough to give me name of the Funeral Home, but they re not very nice & don't want to help me. Thanks for leads E. Stewart ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Did you check the familysearch pilot site for birth? It may not be indexed yet. This is where early births can most often be found. http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home Mary Michele wrote: > I'm glad you asked the question. It is an excellent site but I've been > wondering why my grandmother's birth record is not there either. > Everything we have says that she was born in Chicago in 1895 but I > haven't been able to find her birth record. > >