Kevin, Thanks for your suggestions and comments. I need to find another virus program. Will look at them to see if I can find one. Janet In a message dated 1/13/2012 10:29:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I used to love Norton Utilities back in the 1980's. I was always curious about the inner workings of my computers and learned so much from that program. I used to use NAV in the early days, but it has become so bloated and useless. I have stuck with free AV programs over the last 10 years, at least... with no problems. I do see this "bloat" being introduced in free AV, as well, however... not something I like to see ! I always suggest looking at this Security List for ideas on programs that have been highly rated on quality and performance ... http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html Here is a list of free AV software... Personally, I use Avast and Avira, but I am soon going to install Microsoft Security Essentials on all of my systems. I just keep hearing good things about this program... http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anti-virus-software.htm How-To Guides http://www.techsupportalert.com/tutorials Regards, Kevin. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have used Norton for too many years to count and always thought it did a > good job. Now after reading these emails I wonder if I should find a new > program. I recently have had trouble turning on my computer in the morning > with all kinds of information to do things in order to turn on my > computer, finally something called American Megatrends flashed on my screen and > announced they would turn on my computer and my computer was opened. Do you > have any suggestions? I live in the United States. > > Janet > > > In a message dated 1/13/2012 9:39:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > DEM, I totally agree. > In the early 1980's Peter Norton was my hero. > > Unfortunately, He sold out to Symantec in 1990. > He was given a seat on their board, but, I don't think Peter was every > involved in the code after that. > > Ever since then, Symantec have lived off Peter Nortons name, and their > antivirus products have steadily got worse. > > In my opinion Symantec antivirus products are no longer of acceptable > quality. > > Looking back over the years since the late 90's, I cannot remember a > single clients computer that I DIDN'T have to take off nortons and install a > decent antivirus product. > > I don't know if it's the same worldwide, but here in Ireland, every single > new computer has got the stuff preinstalled. > > Les Hardy > > > On 13/01/12 15:04, Dale Marshall wrote: > > Concurring with a 1/13/2012 email: > > > >> I can only speak from experience in that Norton caused me so many > >> problems that I would not have it in the house much less on any machine > of mine > > Norton's stuff was good years ago ( like when they bought out Central > > Point Software -- I know I'm dating myself -- anybody remember CPS? ) > > but over 5 years I had to totally uninstall all Norton programs. > > > > Too bad Peter Norton couldn't keep the quality up. > > > > DEM in Michigan > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Comments on COMPUTERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 6 > > Kevin, > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. I need to find another virus > program. Will look at them to see if I can find one. Avast (www.avast.com) is VERY good, and free. AVG (www.avg.com) is also good, and also free. Kaspersky (www.kaspersky.com) is also rated well, and has a free version

Hi Janet Using XP I use Avast and Comodo Both free and well regarded On the wifes using Win 7 she has Windows security Essentials It must be quite robust she hasn't broke it yet <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Kevin, > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. I need to find another virus > program. Will look at them to see if I can find one. > > Janet

My tech recommended and installed Microsoft essentials and it's working. lg > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:52:35 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Comments on COMPUTERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 6 > > > Kevin, > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. I need to find another virus > program. Will look at them to see if I can find one. > > Janet > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2012 10:29:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I used to love Norton Utilities back in the 1980's. I was always > curious about the inner workings of my computers and learned so much > from that program. I used to use NAV in the early days, but it has > become so bloated and useless. I have stuck with free AV programs > over the last 10 years, at least... with no problems. I do see this > "bloat" being introduced in free AV, as well, however... not something > I like to see ! > > I always suggest looking at this Security List for ideas on programs > that have been highly rated on quality and performance ... > http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html > > Here is a list of free AV software... Personally, I use Avast and > Avira, but I am soon going to install Microsoft Security Essentials on > all of my systems. I just keep hearing good things about this > program... > http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anti-virus-software.htm > > How-To Guides > http://www.techsupportalert.com/tutorials > > > Regards, > Kevin. > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I have used Norton for too many years to count and always thought it did > a > > good job. Now after reading these emails I wonder if I should find a new > > program. I recently have had trouble turning on my computer in the > morning > > with all kinds of information to do things in order to turn on my > > computer, finally something called American Megatrends flashed on my > screen and > > announced they would turn on my computer and my computer was opened. > Do you > > have any suggestions? I live in the United States. > > > > Janet > > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2012 9:39:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > DEM, I totally agree. > > In the early 1980's Peter Norton was my hero. > > > > Unfortunately, He sold out to Symantec in 1990. > > He was given a seat on their board, but, I don't think Peter was every > > involved in the code after that. > > > > Ever since then, Symantec have lived off Peter Nortons name, and their > > antivirus products have steadily got worse. > > > > In my opinion Symantec antivirus products are no longer of acceptable > > quality. > > > > Looking back over the years since the late 90's, I cannot remember a > > single clients computer that I DIDN'T have to take off nortons and > install a > > decent antivirus product. > > > > I don't know if it's the same worldwide, but here in Ireland, every > single > > new computer has got the stuff preinstalled. > > > > Les Hardy > > > > > > On 13/01/12 15:04, Dale Marshall wrote: > > > Concurring with a 1/13/2012 email: > > > > > >> I can only speak from experience in that Norton caused me so many > > >> problems that I would not have it in the house much less on any > machine > > of mine > > > Norton's stuff was good years ago ( like when they bought out Central > > > Point Software -- I know I'm dating myself -- anybody remember CPS? ) > > > but over 5 years I had to totally uninstall all Norton programs. > > > > > > Too bad Peter Norton couldn't keep the quality up. > > > > > > DEM in Michigan > > > > > > > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the messageMy