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Thank you for your answers, I should have said I got caught when a window with the Micrsoft logo popped up & told me to download to repair window error with My PC Backup & like a fool I did so, & it said we recommend that you run window scan now, which I did & then in their generosity [ silly me] repaired so much & said I had to pay, small amount , so I did, in order to repair the other errors, since then I get the Pop up, driving me crazy to back up my files etc. What to do. Margaret, Port Stephens, NSW.

Please insure that you follow the steps outlined AND use Firefox or Chrome as your browser, to insure maximum security. You could also try to limit your access the Internet to only when you need to ! I still have an older laptop that runs Windows 98 ! It boots up VERY fast and runs the older programs I have installed perfectly... So, it does the job. I do not connect to the Internet with it, though ! Regards, Kevin. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:40 PM, JLA <jasche45133@gmail.com> wrote: > I appreciate the articles. > > ". . .By and large, there’s no compelling reason to stick with XP — > and, as noted above, there are important reasons not to." > > http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/securing-xp-pcs-after-microsoft-drops-support/ > > Yeah right how about cost? My 12 year laptop works just fine, it's > cost prohibited to upgrade, I could buy a new one with Windows 8 for > what it would could to upgrade my antique. Getting a new one is cost > prohibited right now as well. > > My laptop is not going to just up and stop because of no more updates > and since it works well I'm not going to worry about it. > > J. Asche > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Ross <krt5927@gmail.com> wrote: >> Some links for info on what to do about the Windows XP end of support >> date of April 8, 2014... >> to >> Securing XP PCs after Microsoft drops support >> http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/securing-xp-pcs-after-microsoft-drops-support/ >> >> Microsoft TechNet -- Microsoft antimalware support for Windows XP >> Microsoft will continue to provide updates to our antimalware >> signatures and engine for Windows XP users through July 14, 2015 >> http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/15/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp.aspx >> http://winsupersite.com/windows-xp/microsoft-extends-anti-malware-support-windows-xp >> >> Google Offers a Life Line to XP Users: Chrome >> An interesting support option for XP users >> http://winsupersite.com/windows-xp/google-offers-life-line-xp-users-chrome >> >> Some good advice here... >> http://www.ublog2us.com/secrets/windows-secrets-week-03-2014/ >> >> However, if you do plan to stick with XP after April, there are some >> sensible steps you can take to minimise the risk of getting hacked or >> contracting a virus. >> >> 1) First of all, switch to a browser that is being updated. Browser >> problems give hackers one of the biggest backdoors into your Windows >> system, so if you switch to a browser such as Firefox or Chrome which >> is still being updated for XP, you will minimise your risk. >> >> 2) Also, you’ll need a virus checker which is updated every day. >> Free variants such as AVG or Antivir will do perfectly, but you should >> avoid Microsoft Security Essentials, which has been shown to perform >> very poorly in recent tests. >> >> 3) Finally, you need to take care when handling email attachments. >> Never open attachments from Spam messages or other sources you don’t >> know, and if an email claims to come from someone you know but the >> English looks dodgy, they may have been hacked so take care. >> >> By following these three simple steps, you should have another year of >> happy computing with XP in 2014. > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

I appreciate the articles. ". . .By and large, there’s no compelling reason to stick with XP — and, as noted above, there are important reasons not to." http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/securing-xp-pcs-after-microsoft-drops-support/ Yeah right how about cost? My 12 year laptop works just fine, it's cost prohibited to upgrade, I could buy a new one with Windows 8 for what it would could to upgrade my antique. Getting a new one is cost prohibited right now as well. My laptop is not going to just up and stop because of no more updates and since it works well I'm not going to worry about it. J. Asche On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Ross <krt5927@gmail.com> wrote: > Some links for info on what to do about the Windows XP end of support > date of April 8, 2014... > to > Securing XP PCs after Microsoft drops support > http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/securing-xp-pcs-after-microsoft-drops-support/ > > Microsoft TechNet -- Microsoft antimalware support for Windows XP > Microsoft will continue to provide updates to our antimalware > signatures and engine for Windows XP users through July 14, 2015 > http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/15/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp.aspx > http://winsupersite.com/windows-xp/microsoft-extends-anti-malware-support-windows-xp > > Google Offers a Life Line to XP Users: Chrome > An interesting support option for XP users > http://winsupersite.com/windows-xp/google-offers-life-line-xp-users-chrome > > Some good advice here... > http://www.ublog2us.com/secrets/windows-secrets-week-03-2014/ > > However, if you do plan to stick with XP after April, there are some > sensible steps you can take to minimise the risk of getting hacked or > contracting a virus. > > 1) First of all, switch to a browser that is being updated. Browser > problems give hackers one of the biggest backdoors into your Windows > system, so if you switch to a browser such as Firefox or Chrome which > is still being updated for XP, you will minimise your risk. > > 2) Also, you’ll need a virus checker which is updated every day. > Free variants such as AVG or Antivir will do perfectly, but you should > avoid Microsoft Security Essentials, which has been shown to perform > very poorly in recent tests. > > 3) Finally, you need to take care when handling email attachments. > Never open attachments from Spam messages or other sources you don’t > know, and if an email claims to come from someone you know but the > English looks dodgy, they may have been hacked so take care. > > By following these three simple steps, you should have another year of > happy computing with XP in 2014.

Some links for info on what to do about the Windows XP end of support date of April 8, 2014... Securing XP PCs after Microsoft drops support http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/securing-xp-pcs-after-microsoft-drops-support/ Microsoft TechNet -- Microsoft antimalware support for Windows XP Microsoft will continue to provide updates to our antimalware signatures and engine for Windows XP users through July 14, 2015 http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/15/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp.aspx http://winsupersite.com/windows-xp/microsoft-extends-anti-malware-support-windows-xp Google Offers a Life Line to XP Users: Chrome An interesting support option for XP users http://winsupersite.com/windows-xp/google-offers-life-line-xp-users-chrome Some good advice here... http://www.ublog2us.com/secrets/windows-secrets-week-03-2014/ However, if you do plan to stick with XP after April, there are some sensible steps you can take to minimise the risk of getting hacked or contracting a virus. 1) First of all, switch to a browser that is being updated. Browser problems give hackers one of the biggest backdoors into your Windows system, so if you switch to a browser such as Firefox or Chrome which is still being updated for XP, you will minimise your risk. 2) Also, you’ll need a virus checker which is updated every day. Free variants such as AVG or Antivir will do perfectly, but you should avoid Microsoft Security Essentials, which has been shown to perform very poorly in recent tests. 3) Finally, you need to take care when handling email attachments. Never open attachments from Spam messages or other sources you don’t know, and if an email claims to come from someone you know but the English looks dodgy, they may have been hacked so take care. By following these three simple steps, you should have another year of happy computing with XP in 2014. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paul > > Yes, spot on > > I bought a Star LC200 colour dot matrix in 1992 for £187 > > And I paid a similar amount as you did in the 90's for a 486 Time > machine package > (remember those) > > I had better stop thinking how much I have spent on computers etc as its > depressing <g> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >> That brings back memories of paying GBP1,200 for a 486 with a 40Mb hard >> drive in the days when 486's were state of the art - maybe about 1993 ? And I >> was assured by a friend that I had wasted my money on a 40Mb, as nobody >> would ever need that much hard disk space. His 20Mb was perfectly adequate ! >> >> At the same time, I also paid the best part of GBP200 for a new-fangled >> monochrome printer - a Canon BubbleJet BJ10SX, if I remember rightly. >> >> What frightens me is comparing a 40Mb hard drive with the memory in a >> mid-range smartphone of today. >> >> Best wishes. >> >> Paul > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Hi Paul Yes, spot on I bought a Star LC200 colour dot matrix in 1992 for £187 And I paid a similar amount as you did in the 90's for a 486 Time machine package (remember those) I had better stop thinking how much I have spent on computers etc as its depressing <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > That brings back memories of paying GBP1,200 for a 486 with a 40Mb hard > drive in the days when 486's were state of the art - maybe about 1993 ? And I > was assured by a friend that I had wasted my money on a 40Mb, as nobody > would ever need that much hard disk space. His 20Mb was perfectly adequate ! > > At the same time, I also paid the best part of GBP200 for a new-fangled > monochrome printer - a Canon BubbleJet BJ10SX, if I remember rightly. > > What frightens me is comparing a 40Mb hard drive with the memory in a > mid-range smartphone of today. > > Best wishes. > > Paul

Hi again It it works OK now I would continue to do so until such time as it does keel over Although its always best to keep up with security updates, hackers will have moved on from XP to Win7 or 8, I can't see them wasting to much time on an obsolete OS I only changed to W7 due to hardware failure and couldn't see the point of throwing more money at it Computers are so much cheaper now than they ever were it doesn't make much sense to me to upgrade Back in the mid 1980's I paid 400gpb for an Amiga 500, thats more that I paid for this laptop (and money was worth a lot more then) As long as you keep good back ups and that includes email and settings, then I would keep going until such time as you need to change I tried Linux but as you say you need time and some interest in it to use it in my opinion (generally all the Linux aficionados leap up at this point and say its easy, well it isn't) I found some software wouldn't run under W7 but it was only things I either didn't need or didn't use so wasn't to stressed about it Hardware wasn't a problem, even an old epson works under W7 I used Outlook Express under XP, so had to change to Thunderbird but am pleased I did and also prefer that to OE Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 19/01/2014 00:40, Lori Camper wrote: > That is what I am thinking. I put a bigger hard drive and more ram > in my computer last summer, and it is running great with Win XP. I > have no reason to need a new computer, so I'm very disappointed at > the thought of buying a new one when things are running fine. If I > upgrade to Win 8, I'll be maxing out the ram, and the software and > printer I have won't work, so it will be a big snowball effect. If > that's the case, I think I might as well buy a new computer. > > If I only used it for recreational use and didn't have to have it for > work (I work from home), I might give Linux a try. I'm not sure that > I have the time to invest in learning about Linux and then > troubleshooting anything that doesn't work quite right. > > Lori Camper

In a message dated 19/01/2014 10:49:43 GMT Standard Time, ovington.one@gmail.com writes: Back in the mid 1980's I paid 400gpb for an Amiga 500, thats more that I paid for this laptop (and money was worth a lot more then) Nivard That brings back memories of paying GBP1,200 for a 486 with a 40Mb hard drive in the days when 486's were state of the art - maybe about 1993 ? And I was assured by a friend that I had wasted my money on a 40Mb, as nobody would ever need that much hard disk space. His 20Mb was perfectly adequate ! At the same time, I also paid the best part of GBP200 for a new-fangled monochrome printer - a Canon BubbleJet BJ10SX, if I remember rightly. What frightens me is comparing a 40Mb hard drive with the memory in a mid-range smartphone of today. Best wishes. Paul

Not using WinXp, I haven't been following the thread too closely so I don't know if this has already been mentioned. Bob Wilson http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/10576771/Microsoft-extends-security-support-for-Windows-XP.html

Hi Lori About 18 or so months ago my desktop with XP decided it had done enough and keeled over, never to be resurrected again (RIP :-) There were no other options available with a new PC or laptop except Win 7, so I reluctantly bought a laptop with W7 It took a while to get used to its foibles, particularly the way it organises files/folders At the time you may remember the angst I went through as I posted several times about it on this list However I would say that it is better, despite my original misgivings, fact is we don't like change, particularly when we feel like its being imposed on us Apart from the fact it is a whole lot more stable that XP, there is one function that makes it better than XP and thats the search, ie it ver quickly searches and finds file/folder named as requested (yes I know you could with XP but this is a whole new ball game) I have heard many people moaning about W8 and will hold off from that until it becomes a necessity Like all "improved" versions of OS it really needs a better processor and more RAM than XP would, so I wouldn't waste my time upgrading an older XP machine to W7 or W8 but would spend the money better on a complete new machine which is likely to be money better spent IMHO I did not want to move from XP but having done so am glad I did and got used to it The King is dead, long live the King <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 18/01/2014 19:41, Lori Camper wrote: > I'm curious what other XP users are planning to do once Windows quits issuing security updates for it. > > Lori Camper

That is what I am thinking. I put a bigger hard drive and more ram in my computer last summer, and it is running great with Win XP. I have no reason to need a new computer, so I'm very disappointed at the thought of buying a new one when things are running fine. If I upgrade to Win 8, I'll be maxing out the ram, and the software and printer I have won't work, so it will be a big snowball effect. If that's the case, I think I might as well buy a new computer. If I only used it for recreational use and didn't have to have it for work (I work from home), I might give Linux a try. I'm not sure that I have the time to invest in learning about Linux and then troubleshooting anything that doesn't work quite right. Lori Camper > On Jan 18, 2014, at 3:38 PM, "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Like all "improved" versions of OS it really needs a better processor > and more RAM than XP would, so I wouldn't waste my time upgrading an > older XP machine to W7 or W8 but would spend the money better on a > complete new machine which is likely to be money better spent IMHO

"Keep Javascript and get rid of Java as it creates many problems and you don't need it." Java Script and Java and two unrelated functions. http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_javascript.xml J. Asche On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:43 PM, <Dasmi1170@aol.com> wrote: > > Marg, > >>>Should I uninstall Java then install it again?<< > Yes And a correction -- Don't install it again. Keep Javascript and get rid of Java as it creates many problems and you don't need it.

I plan to keep on using my antique as always. The computer isn't going to stop working just because there are no more security updates. Sincerely, Joan Asche On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Lori Camper <lorisgenealogy@outlook.com> wrote: > I'm curious what other XP users are planning to do once Windows quits issuing security updates for it. > > Lori Camper > >

I agree. All electronics keep changing just to make more money. I still have my Windows XP but have upgraded to Windows 8. I had a few things to adjust to. I did stick with Dell though. I like them. Sue On 1/18/2014 2:51 PM, Molly6374 wrote: > Move on to Windows 7, I guess. I use it at work, so I might as well upgrade > at home. I really liked Windows XP, though. In my humble opinion it's all > just a money racket. A new version comes out, everyone gets it and just > starts getting comfortable with it, and then they start hyping and talking > about releasing a newer version. I guess it's what they call "progress." > .... Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori Camper > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:41 PM > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [COMPUTERS] Win XP's Demise > > I'm curious what other XP users are planning to do once Windows quits > issuing security updates for it. > > Lori Camper > > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Move on to Windows 7, I guess. I use it at work, so I might as well upgrade at home. I really liked Windows XP, though. In my humble opinion it's all just a money racket. A new version comes out, everyone gets it and just starts getting comfortable with it, and then they start hyping and talking about releasing a newer version. I guess it's what they call "progress." .... Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Lori Camper Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:41 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] Win XP's Demise I'm curious what other XP users are planning to do once Windows quits issuing security updates for it. Lori Camper

Marg, >>Should I uninstall Java then install it again?<< Yes And a correction -- Don't install it again. Keep Javascript and get rid of Java as it creates many problems and you don't need it. Joan >From snowy Massachusetts. ================= FROM another Joan: >>I stress that everything I have read says it is still important despite Oracle's recent updates to disable JAVA in your Web browsers...each one you use to access ANY Web sites. By disabling JAVA in the browsers you have not disabled JAVA applets that may be used ON YOUR COMPUTER for various older programs that may still apply JAVA and THESE are considered safe to use and keep enabled. The reason is that the vulnerabilities reported by the Dept. of Homeland Security all involve infiltration and infections through the Internet---via browsers with JAVA enabled...not from any use of JAVA applets ON your local computer system. JAVA vulnerabilities were responsible for much of the Internet ID theft (according to Homeland Security) and also is responsible for the recent Facebook hacking and the very recent Apple, Inc. hacking. This is something we ALL should be doing to protect us regardless of our antivirus and spyware/malware software being updated.<< :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marg, >>Should I uninstall Java then install it again?<< Yes! Keep Javascript and get rid of Java as it creates many problems and you don't need it. Joan >From snowy Massachusetts. ================= FROM another Joan: >>I stress that everything I have read says it is still important despite Oracle's recent updates to disable JAVA in your Web browsers...each one you use to access ANY Web sites. By disabling JAVA in the browsers you have not disabled JAVA applets that may be used ON YOUR COMPUTER for various older programs that may still apply JAVA and THESE are considered safe to use and keep enabled. The reason is that the vulnerabilities reported by the Dept. of Homeland Security all involve infiltration and infections through the Internet---via browsers with JAVA enabled...not from any use of JAVA applets ON your local computer system. JAVA vulnerabilities were responsible for much of the Internet ID theft (according to Homeland Security) and also is responsible for the recent Facebook hacking and the very recent Apple, Inc. hacking. This is something we ALL should be doing to protect us regardless of our antivirus and spyware/malware software being updated.<<

I'm curious what other XP users are planning to do once Windows quits issuing security updates for it. Lori Camper

I have XP on my computer..... and I like it. I have Windows 7 on my laptop........I don't like it. But I guess we have no choice. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Lori Camper Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:41 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] Win XP's Demise I'm curious what other XP users are planning to do once Windows quits issuing security updates for it. Lori Camper :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3681/7013 - Release Date: 01/18/14

Done............and it works. Thank you Joan......from snowy Massachusetts. I don't know what I would do without this site. I read all the inquiries and have learned so much. Living here in the B.C. Cariboo I know what lots of snow is........ LOL ....and right now my grandson iceskates from his home to mine.......on the road!! Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dasmi1170@aol.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 12:43 PM Subject: [COMPUTERS] Fwd: Fwd: Java Problem?- A correction in my answer Marg, >>Should I uninstall Java then install it again?<< Yes And a correction -- Don't install it again. Keep Javascript and get rid of Java as it creates many problems and you don't need it. Joan >From snowy Massachusetts. ================= FROM another Joan: >>I stress that everything I have read says it is still important despite Oracle's recent updates to disable JAVA in your Web browsers...each one you use to access ANY Web sites. By disabling JAVA in the browsers you have not disabled JAVA applets that may be used ON YOUR COMPUTER for various older programs that may still apply JAVA and THESE are considered safe to use and keep enabled. The reason is that the vulnerabilities reported by the Dept. of Homeland Security all involve infiltration and infections through the Internet---via browsers with JAVA enabled...not from any use of JAVA applets ON your local computer system. JAVA vulnerabilities were responsible for much of the Internet ID theft (according to Homeland Security) and also is responsible for the recent Facebook hacking and the very recent Apple, Inc. hacking. This is something we ALL should be doing to protect us regardless of our antivirus and spyware/malware software being updated.<< :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3681/7013 - Release Date: 01/18/14