Hi Donna Try gmail instead and you rarely even have to think about spam I have never marked anything as spam, nor do I need to Once in a while one creeps through but its rare I check gmails spam folder once a month or so and on a rare occasion I may find a legitimate message in there, I mark it as not spam and its returned to the inbox IMHO if you are wasting time training your spam filters, you are using the wrong emailer Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/02/2014 14:07, Donna wrote: > I use a web based program for my email. I know in the past that you > had to train your PC program to recognize +s--p-- a++m. Do you have > to do the same for a web based program, if so does it recognize the > +s--p-- a++m by the content or the address? I guess what I'm trying > to say is when I receive an email from someone that has been ha-cked > and mark it as +s--p-- a++m, will it always recognize that address > and but in junk or go by the content of the email? >

Hi List, I've heard that Windows8 has alot of problems and no fix is available yet. Is this true? When it is safe to purchase a computer, I would like to get the 2 in 1 devices(laptop to tablet). Can anyone recommend a good one. thanks, robert

Starting today I get the following error: Secure connection failed www.mozilla.org uses an invalid security certificate. Using Thunderbird mail and Windows 8. earlier today I uninstalled Avira and installed Avast. While downloading Avast I got several unwanted items which I uninstalled through the control panel. I tried posting to the thunderbird site but it wouldn't post. It appears others have had the same problem but I wasn't able to find a solution. Thanks in advance, Mary-- BTW I am still receiving my mail, but seeing that error message every time worries me. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

----- "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Donna > > Try gmail instead and you rarely even have to think about spam ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Nivard, I really don't have a big problem with getting +s--p-- a++m. I was wondering that when it shows up my junk folder if I mark it as +s--p-- a++m, is the program learning that the content of the email is bad or the address will be flagged in the future. -- Donna in north eastern, Indiana, USA

I use a web based program for my email. I know in the past that you had to train your PC program to recognize +s--p-- a++m. Do you have to do the same for a web based program, if so does it recognize the +s--p-- a++m by the content or the address? I guess what I'm trying to say is when I receive an email from someone that has been ha-cked and mark it as +s--p-- a++m, will it always recognize that address and but in junk or go by the content of the email? -- Donna in north eastern, Indiana, USA

Perhaps you can try it again but do just a straight Copy (Ctrl-C) and Paste (Ctrl-V) To save a file under a new name... File >> Save As... On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Robert Wilson <robowil@live.com> wrote: > Nancy > > I did essentially what you did. I opened a clean copy of Word. > I then copied the read-only content and pasted it on the new > Word copy. I didn't use convert. I am not sure what it does. > > Bob > > >> From: nancyml@comcast.net >> To: computers@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:13:08 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief >> >> Bob thank you. I think you mean I should copy and paste it and then work on >> it. I did that. One thing though, I may have clicked on convert each of >> these times. Could that be the issue? >> Regards, >> >> Nancy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Robert Wilson >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:55 AM >> To: computers@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief >> >> Nancy >> >> I had a similar problem with Word read only files but it said Word - Read >> only at >> the top of the file. If this is the case, you cannot do any editing and >> will have to create a Word file with the subject matter. >> >> Bob Wilson >> >> >> > From: kr5927@gmail.com >> > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:53:42 -0500 >> > To: computers@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief >> > >> SNIP >> >> >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on >> the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. >> >> This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems >> incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. >> >> This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Hi Rae Open Thunderbird On the left you will find Inbox for whatever you use, gmail, Yahoo, Earthlink etc Right click on the Inbox and select New Folder Give it a sensible name and Create Folder However before you set out to do so, consider if you actually need folders at all I had oodles in outlook Express as otherwise it took ages to find a mail When I went over to Thunderbird I soon realised I was wasting a lot of time filing emails into folders, there was no point as Thunderbirds search is so far advanced compared to Outlook Express it was a simple matter to find any mail I still have my old folders which I imported from OE but only need to look in them once in a while, otherwise I have my Inbox and archive by year Its a whole lot simpler, quicker and easier than spending time filing in folders Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/02/2014 15:09, Rae Jean wrote: > Using Thunderbird to download messages (email) from Earthlink and Gmail > accounts. > > Thunderbird has default folder titled "Local Folders" which can not be > renamed. > > Trying to figure out how to setup folders for downloading email from > Earthlink or Gmail -- should I create those folders under the TB "Local > Folders" or create them in addition to "Local Folders" -- do not > understand the way Thunderbird uses folders. > > Help appreciated. > Rae Jean

Nancy I did essentially what you did. I opened a clean copy of Word. I then copied the read-only content and pasted it on the new Word copy. I didn't use convert. I am not sure what it does. Bob > From: nancyml@comcast.net > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:13:08 -0500 > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief > > Bob thank you. I think you mean I should copy and paste it and then work on > it. I did that. One thing though, I may have clicked on convert each of > these times. Could that be the issue? > Regards, > > Nancy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Robert Wilson > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:55 AM > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief > > Nancy > > I had a similar problem with Word read only files but it said Word - Read > only at > the top of the file. If this is the case, you cannot do any editing and > will have to create a Word file with the subject matter. > > Bob Wilson > > > > From: kr5927@gmail.com > > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:53:42 -0500 > > To: computers@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief > > > SNIP > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on > the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems > incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob thank you. I think you mean I should copy and paste it and then work on it. I did that. One thing though, I may have clicked on convert each of these times. Could that be the issue? Regards, Nancy -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:55 AM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief Nancy I had a similar problem with Word read only files but it said Word - Read only at the top of the file. If this is the case, you cannot do any editing and will have to create a Word file with the subject matter. Bob Wilson > From: kr5927@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:53:42 -0500 > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief > SNIP :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for trying to help me, Kevin. Yes I am using Windows 7 Home Premium Current capacity-872 GB free of 919 Yes If I start a new document I can save, change, copy, paste etc. No I have not tried saving the files with a new file name. Don't know how to do that? Have not tried the DOC file way either, don't know how to do that The presentations are coming from my old XP computer I send myself a copy via email, open them, work on them but the changes can't be saved. I would be grateful for just the text. I don't know how to open anything in notepad. How do I find it? So sorry for being ignorant of these things. I'm so grateful for you taking the time. Regards Nancy -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief Hi Nancy, Are you using Windows 7? Are you saving this to your main hard drive? Or an external drive? Or a USB drive? Does your main hard drive have enough room on it? Other than the 4 you referred to, are you able to save other Word Documents to the same hard drive folder? Have you tried saving the file with a different file name? Have you tried to save the file as a DOC file? Just a thought, but it sounds as if you may be importing something strange along with your presentations when you cut and paste. What program are the 'presentations' coming from? Do you need to import the formatting or just the text of the presentations into Word? If text only, copying the text to notepad first, then copy and paste from Notepad to Word. This will insure that only text is imported into Word. Regards, Kevin. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Nancy <nancyml@comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem with some files in Microsoft Word 2010. I have some > presentations in word that I cut and pasted into the current one from > an old computer. I have done this many other times in the past two > years but am now having difficulty. The difficulty lies in the fact > that when I work on the cut and pasted document and make changes, try > to save the document with the changes when I get a message that > > says ( windows cannot save or create this file. Make sure that the > disk you want to save the file on is not full, write protected or damaged. Then (J. > Irish 101.docx) > > This has happened to 4 documents. > > Thanks for any help. > > Nancy > > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Using Thunderbird to download messages (email) from Earthlink and Gmail accounts. Thunderbird has default folder titled "Local Folders" which can not be renamed. Trying to figure out how to setup folders for downloading email from Earthlink or Gmail -- should I create those folders under the TB "Local Folders" or create them in addition to "Local Folders" -- do not understand the way Thunderbird uses folders. Help appreciated. Rae Jean

I have a new computer with windows 8 and have transferred many files from my old XP computer. Once the files are on my windows 8 computer some will not open so that I can work with them. Many are as attachments. I do not know what programs were used to write the file. Is there a way to get these file to open so that I can see what they are and also get them open so I can work with them? Some of the files are pictures, some are e mails and some are for my family history. Please list by steps on how to open these files. Thanks. Gerry Sent from Windows Mail

Nancy I had a similar problem with Word read only files but it said Word - Read only at the top of the file. If this is the case, you cannot do any editing and will have to create a Word file with the subject matter. Bob Wilson > From: kr5927@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:53:42 -0500 > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Ignorance brings grief > SNIP

Hi Gerry, You will need to be more specific. What kind of files are you referring to? Were you able to open these files when you were using Windows XP? Regards, Kevin. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:41 PM, <g.bailey3308@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I have a new computer with windows 8 and have transferred many files from my old XP computer. Once the files are on my windows 8 computer some will not open so that I can work with them. Many are as attachments. I do not know what programs were used to write the file. Is there a way to get these file to open so that I can see what they are and also get them open so I can work with them? Some of the files are pictures, some are e mails and some are for my family history. > > > > Please list by steps on how to open these files. Thanks. Gerry > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Hi Nancy, Are you using Windows 7? Are you saving this to your main hard drive? Or an external drive? Or a USB drive? Does your main hard drive have enough room on it? Other than the 4 you referred to, are you able to save other Word Documents to the same hard drive folder? Have you tried saving the file with a different file name? Have you tried to save the file as a DOC file? Just a thought, but it sounds as if you may be importing something strange along with your presentations when you cut and paste. What program are the 'presentations' coming from? Do you need to import the formatting or just the text of the presentations into Word? If text only, copying the text to notepad first, then copy and paste from Notepad to Word. This will insure that only text is imported into Word. Regards, Kevin. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Nancy <nancyml@comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem with some files in Microsoft Word 2010. I have some > presentations in word that I cut and pasted into the current one from an old > computer. I have done this many other times in the past two years but am now > having difficulty. The difficulty lies in the fact that when I work on the > cut and pasted document and make changes, try to save the document with the > changes when I get a message that > > says ( windows cannot save or create this file. Make sure that the disk you > want to save the file on is not full, write protected or damaged. Then (J. > Irish 101.docx) > > This has happened to 4 documents. > > Thanks for any help. > > Nancy > > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Hello, I have a problem with some files in Microsoft Word 2010. I have some presentations in word that I cut and pasted into the current one from an old computer. I have done this many other times in the past two years but am now having difficulty. The difficulty lies in the fact that when I work on the cut and pasted document and make changes, try to save the document with the changes when I get a message that says ( windows cannot save or create this file. Make sure that the disk you want to save the file on is not full, write protected or damaged. Then (J. Irish 101.docx) This has happened to 4 documents. Thanks for any help. Nancy

Recently someone posted about trouble shutting down the computer. I can't remember what list it was on. Anyway, my computer will only shut down with a "hard" shutdown. When I try to do it the normal way, it says it is shutting down, but then comes right back on as though I had just turned it on. This just started recently. Can someone offer me some ideas/advice? Thanks very much.</HTML>

Hi, I have XP on my PC and realise that I need to upgrade to Windows 7 home or Pro. My PC is now 7 years old and running very slowly (at times), so, I have decided to bite the bullet and my bank a/c and purchase a new PC. I have Eudora 7.1 (free edition) and have been very happy with it, will it work as well using Windows 7 Home or Pro. Some of my family history CDs will not run on Windows 7 so I am thinking of have a split something and having XP on one half and Windows 7 on the other half. A technician has advised me that it would be better to have Windows Pro rather than the Home edition to do this. I do have a laptop using XP so maybe it would be better to keep this for running the CDs (but I will also need to upgrade this computer to Windows), would it be better to have the Pro edition on the laptop? and just have the home edition on my PC. I would appreciate your expert thoughts on this - I am not tech savvy and would be guided by your ideas and experiences. Happy hunting, Annette WATSON Lismore Australia

Annette, I am running Eudora 7.1 on Windows 7 with no problems. Unfortunately, I can't help you with the CD problem. Vanessa At 08:23 PM 2/19/2014, you wrote: >Hi, > >I have XP on my PC and realise that I need to upgrade to Windows 7 home or >Pro. >My PC is now 7 years old and running very slowly (at times), so, I >have decided >to bite the bullet and my bank a/c and purchase a new PC. > >I have Eudora 7.1 (free edition) and have been very happy with it, >will it work as >well using Windows 7 Home or Pro. > >Some of my family history CDs will not run on Windows 7 so I am thinking of >have a split something and having XP on one half and Windows 7 on the >other half. >A technician has advised me that it would be better to have Windows Pro rather >than the Home edition to do this. > >I do have a laptop using XP so maybe it would be better to keep this >for running >the CDs (but I will also need to upgrade this computer to Windows), >would it be >better to have the Pro edition on the laptop? and just have the home >edition on >my PC. > >I would appreciate your expert thoughts on this - I am not tech >savvy and would >be guided by your ideas and experiences. > >Happy hunting, > >Annette WATSON >Lismore >Australia --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Timmwill Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.software.computer/21.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for the hints. Will search again. I originally found tons of videos on photos but not much on written documents. I will go forth again! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>